Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => Hoax Videos => Topic started by: ForTheTruth on July 15, 2010, 11:02:55 PM

Title: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ForTheTruth on July 15, 2010, 11:02:55 PM
Does anyone know when this video was made or if it is a fake?
  :?:  :|

[youtube:29yplro3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UddsFTtSZ5Y[/youtube:29yplro3]




(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs001.ash2/33432_1521333471389_1176130356_1493321_7646309_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs191.snc4/37875_1521282230108_1176130356_1493249_3128503_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 15, 2010, 11:15:48 PM
whoa i've seen this video before i don't remember when and what redirected me there..
In the description it said it's a guy who head a heart attack and was making his first moves...
I can't find the video :/
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on July 15, 2010, 11:30:10 PM
Why am I having trouble loading video's from youtube tonight? I can't see it so can't really say. The photo's give me doubts but IDK...
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: msteetee34 on July 15, 2010, 11:37:14 PM
Where the heck did this video come from?  It looks legit to me.  It actually does look like MJ to me.  He got an armband on his sweat shirt as well.  It looks like he's on a surveillance camera.  I wonder when this video was taken?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: LUNA on July 16, 2010, 06:52:12 AM
is it possible he is a double?? he looks like mike!! (also if he reminds mike to me....his lips,his cheek-bones,his chin... don't you think??). propbably,this double has died after heart attack and not mj!!  :shock:
ok,it's just imagination.....

*LUNA*
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2010, 07:43:23 AM
I am subscribed to that account at youtube. This is the account of the "Andromeda" I mentioned before, the one who sings similar to MJ.

IDK what to think about that video. It is too slow motion and blurred. Almost scary to be honest.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2010, 07:46:12 AM
I don´t like the backround, looks like if he would be kidnapped or in a hospital and forced to do it. What the heck? and the video has no sound.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: nefari on July 16, 2010, 08:40:05 AM
OH wow! This is creepy. Where and when was this made? That looks like our Michael.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ForTheTruth on July 16, 2010, 09:45:23 AM
I found two more links with the same video but the date is June 18 2010.  Someone is trying to fool us or maybe that could be MJ..:?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwFO2UBBdAQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9NLgZKLb4&feature=related
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: rabbit on July 16, 2010, 09:54:01 AM
i dont see michael
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: awesome1 on July 16, 2010, 09:58:05 AM
Ok thats creepy...... it does look like MJ........also i think, is he singing ?

that is very very strange to say the least
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2010, 09:59:25 AM
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
I found two more links with the same video but the date is June 18 2010.  Someone is trying to fool us or maybe that could be MJ..:?


This vídeo comes from  the youtube account
LeachimNoskcaj  |  June 18, 2010

the description comes written in Spanish  :?
Quote
El video tiene un secreto muy fuerte e importante para el futuro.
Muestra a una persona dentro de una habitación, tratando de bailar con dificultades.
Este hombre estaba enfermo, Roco, y la recuperación de un paro cardíaco.
Cuando sus pasos de baile han dado los primeros, una simple cámara grabó el momento.
Antes de abandonar el sitio, vestía ropa holgada, atado el cinturón en la parte superior del vientre, llevaba una gorra y una blusa con largos toques fría para disfrazarse.
Usaba gafas para ocultar sus ojos, y puso una máscara quirúrgica en la nariz y la boca para no ser reconocidos.
Es posible ver una carita.
Antes de usar la máscara, las imágenes fueron grabadas.
y esto es lo que verás.
Él se divertía tratando de cantar, incluso roco, lo intentaba.
Él utilizó su brazo líder de la banda en el momento de la grabación, y se retiró y se fue.


(I used google...too tired to translate)
The video has a secret very strong and important to the future.
Shows a person inside a room, trying to dance with difficulties.
This man was sick, and recovery from cardiac arrest.
When her dance moves have taken the first, a single camera recorded the moment.
Before leaving the place, wearing loose clothes, tied the belt in the upper belly, wearing a cap and a blouse with long, cold touch to dress up.
He wore sunglasses to hide his eyes, and put a surgical mask in the nose and mouth to avoid being recognized.
You can see a face.
Before using the mask, the images were recorded.
and this is what you see.
He had fun trying to sing, even dew, I tried.
He used his arm band leader at the time of recording, and retired and went

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9NLgZKLb4&feature=related[/quote]

This theory makes sene for some of us who, during the first months after MJ died, tought that he could have been in rehab after a coma.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: awesome1 on July 16, 2010, 10:08:14 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
I found two more links with the same video but the date is June 18 2010.  Someone is trying to fool us or maybe that could be MJ..:?


This vídeo comes from  the youtube account
LeachimNoskcaj  |  June 18, 2010

the description comes written in Spanish  :?
Quote
El video tiene un secreto muy fuerte e importante para el futuro.
Muestra a una persona dentro de una habitación, tratando de bailar con dificultades.
Este hombre estaba enfermo, Roco, y la recuperación de un paro cardíaco.
Cuando sus pasos de baile han dado los primeros, una simple cámara grabó el momento.
Antes de abandonar el sitio, vestía ropa holgada, atado el cinturón en la parte superior del vientre, llevaba una gorra y una blusa con largos toques fría para disfrazarse.
Usaba gafas para ocultar sus ojos, y puso una máscara quirúrgica en la nariz y la boca para no ser reconocidos.
Es posible ver una carita.
Antes de usar la máscara, las imágenes fueron grabadas.
y esto es lo que verás.
Él se divertía tratando de cantar, incluso roco, lo intentaba.
Él utilizó su brazo líder de la banda en el momento de la grabación, y se retiró y se fue.


(I used google...too tired to translate)
The video has a secret very strong and important to the future.
Shows a person inside a room, trying to dance with difficulties.
This man was sick, and recovery from cardiac arrest.
When her dance moves have taken the first, a single camera recorded the moment.
Before leaving the place, wearing loose clothes, tied the belt in the upper belly, wearing a cap and a blouse with long, cold touch to dress up.
He wore sunglasses to hide his eyes, and put a surgical mask in the nose and mouth to avoid being recognized.
You can see a face.
Before using the mask, the images were recorded.
and this is what you see.
He had fun trying to sing, even dew, I tried.
He used his arm band leader at the time of recording, and retired and went

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9NLgZKLb4&feature=related

This theory makes sene for some of us who, during the first months after MJ died, tought that he could have been in rehab after a coma.[/quote]

so if the video is what the description says it is, and that that is in fact michael.  is it entirely possible that his heart did stop, and they pronounced him dead, and then they were able to restart his heart again ?? and they just decided to go with the whole death thing so that he could recover.....
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 16, 2010, 10:14:10 AM
Quote from: "awesome1"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
I found two more links with the same video but the date is June 18 2010.  Someone is trying to fool us or maybe that could be MJ..:?


This vídeo comes from  the youtube account
LeachimNoskcaj  |  June 18, 2010

the description comes written in Spanish  :?
Quote
El video tiene un secreto muy fuerte e importante para el futuro.
Muestra a una persona dentro de una habitación, tratando de bailar con dificultades.
Este hombre estaba enfermo, Roco, y la recuperación de un paro cardíaco.
Cuando sus pasos de baile han dado los primeros, una simple cámara grabó el momento.
Antes de abandonar el sitio, vestía ropa holgada, atado el cinturón en la parte superior del vientre, llevaba una gorra y una blusa con largos toques fría para disfrazarse.
Usaba gafas para ocultar sus ojos, y puso una máscara quirúrgica en la nariz y la boca para no ser reconocidos.
Es posible ver una carita.
Antes de usar la máscara, las imágenes fueron grabadas.
y esto es lo que verás.
Él se divertía tratando de cantar, incluso roco, lo intentaba.
Él utilizó su brazo líder de la banda en el momento de la grabación, y se retiró y se fue.


(I used google...too tired to translate)
The video has a secret very strong and important to the future.
Shows a person inside a room, trying to dance with difficulties.
This man was sick, and recovery from cardiac arrest.
When her dance moves have taken the first, a single camera recorded the moment.
Before leaving the place, wearing loose clothes, tied the belt in the upper belly, wearing a cap and a blouse with long, cold touch to dress up.
He wore sunglasses to hide his eyes, and put a surgical mask in the nose and mouth to avoid being recognized.
You can see a face.
Before using the mask, the images were recorded.
and this is what you see.
He had fun trying to sing, even dew, I tried.
He used his arm band leader at the time of recording, and retired and went

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9NLgZKLb4&feature=related

This theory makes sene for some of us who, during the first months after MJ died, tought that he could have been in rehab after a coma.

so if the video is what the description says it is, and that that is in fact michael.  is it entirely possible that his heart did stop, and they pronounced him dead, and then they were able to restart his heart again ?? and they just decided to go with the whole death thing so that he could recover.....

I don't believe in this theory at all..that can't be Michael
Do you think he could pull off this if he was in rehab and barely being able to move?
I think this video has nothing to do with him..
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2010, 10:15:20 AM
I posted a thread called Cardiac arrest does not equal to death and how resurrection techniques are applied succesfully to "clinically dead" people.

I´ll try to find it.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
Here it is.
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=12089&p=200089&hilit=cardiac+arrest+does+not+equal+to+death#p200089 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=12089&p=200089&hilit=cardiac+arrest+does+not+equal+to+death#p200089)

Some people "felt" that MJ could have been in rehab of some sort ;)

If this was the case, MJ was in the need to "fake" his dead in order to live and find out "who is it".
He said "50 concerts would kill me"...who knows what happened to his heart....

Did MJ want to get in touch intentionally with dead to be reborn? may be to experience what is beyond? or did he really suffered cardiac arrest by propofol?

We don´t know.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 16, 2010, 10:25:54 AM
I followed some links on youtube and read some comments, there're people saying someone uploaded this video to make us believe it was Michael but seems Leachim is a MJ spanish impersonator..
I'm not saying I believe this theory, because I don't either..I won't judge this video, no one knows what is it about and what was its purpose but it might be someone is trying to fool us..
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: whisper on July 16, 2010, 11:01:04 AM
I don't think it's MJ...
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 16, 2010, 12:43:22 PM
Re: MJ MESSAGE
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9154&p=152619#p152619
Post by Serenitys_Dream » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:50 pm
It is from this site, it plays when you go there. Selena1974 puts these youtube videos up and tries to fool people this is the second one she has done this with. She did it with another message he gave regarding a flood in Germany a few years, she posted it as a recent message.
http://www.mjinnocencebracelets.com/


I have lightened and increased the speed of this video that youtuber LEAHCIM NOSKCAJ posted and once again SELANA1974 is trying to pass this off as Michael Jackson. This is not Michael, it is another a fake video created to confuse and mislead people. This is the third time SELENA1974 (aka Andromeda) has posted a fake video.

[youtube:2o3pciv2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJNbvnRFaJs[/youtube:2o3pciv2]
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2010, 12:50:33 PM
When she posted the flood Germany message she said that someone gave her the video.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ER911 on July 16, 2010, 12:55:41 PM
If it's a fake, it a very good one. It looks exactly like Michael in the still shot.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2010, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: "ER911"
If it's a fake, it a very good one. It looks exactly like Michael in the still shot.

I believe that the still shot comes from an original MJ video and the video presented in this thread has a fake MJ. Like if was planned to make us believe that he was MJ.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 16, 2010, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
When she posted the flood Germany message she said that someone gave her the video.
Gema I know all about it. I found the original video and posted it to my youtube and confronted her. She then removed the one she had up.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Datroot on July 16, 2010, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "ER911"
If it's a fake, it a very good one. It looks exactly like Michael in the still shot.

I believe that the still shot comes from an original MJ video and the video presented in this thread has a fake MJ. Like if was planned to make us believe that he was MJ.


Yes that is probaly it.  The still shot is obviously MJ but the guy in the video looks nothing like him.  It could even be a woman.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 16, 2010, 01:10:25 PM
Quote from: "ER911"
If it's a fake, it a very good one. It looks exactly like Michael in the still shot.

If it is not fake then the circumstances in which it is being presented are not the truth just as the previous video from the flood in Germany was presented as a current message from Michael. When in fact it was several years old and had been edited so that it wasn't directed to the German flood victims but appeared to be directed towards fans in general.

As can be seen from the increased speed version, the video is very short and is pieces that have been spliced together, it was then in slow motion to make it appear as one continuous video clip of an unhealthy person.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2010, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Gema"
When she posted the flood Germany message she said that someone gave her the video.
Gema I know all about it. I found the original video and posted it to my youtube and confronted her. She then removed the one she had up.

I saw the same video. She wrote that the video was given to her.
I also remember me and more youtube users writing on her board that the message came from the Germany floding tragedy. She removed those comments first and about an hour after the video was gone.

I would like to know what this person wants to achieve. She also has some videos on her chanel about fans asking MJ to come back.

I read some of the comments. People think she is MJ or that MJ is with her.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ForTheTruth on July 16, 2010, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Re: MJ MESSAGE
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9154&p=152619#p152619
Post by Serenitys_Dream » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:50 pm
It is from this site, it plays when you go there. Selena1974 puts these youtube videos up and tries to fool people this is the second one she has done this with. She did it with another message he gave regarding a flood in Germany a few years, she posted it as a recent message.
http://www.mjinnocencebracelets.com/


I have lightened and increased the speed of this video that youtuber LEAHCIM NOSKCAJ posted and once again SELANA1974 is trying to pass this off as Michael Jackson. This is not Michael, it is another a fake video created to confuse and mislead people. This is the third time SELENA1974 (aka Andromeda) has posted a fake video.

[youtube:2fkwvcm6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJNbvnRFaJs[/youtube:2fkwvcm6]



 :shock:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MJonmind on July 16, 2010, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "ER911"
If it's a fake, it a very good one. It looks exactly like Michael in the still shot.

I believe that the still shot comes from an original MJ video and the video presented in this thread has a fake MJ. Like if was planned to make us believe that he was MJ.

So they took a grainy pic of MJ, had the impersonator, closely match it. That's callled illusion, putting the real still and fake clip together to deceive many people. I'm glad you SD were able to put these fakers in their place. I can't believe the lengths people go to, also that nephew of MB, for a piece of fame. Sad.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Bee Bee on July 16, 2010, 01:38:40 PM
Umm, in my opinion, this doesn't even look like a real person. Compare the head to the body, the head looks like it was just a paper head or something. This is called "test", maybe because somebody was trying around with their computer or whatever? In my opinion, this is never "Michael" or any real person at all.  :?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 16, 2010, 01:54:40 PM
The guy/woman/something in the video doesn't look anything like MJ, sorry.

I wish those people would stop screwing with people's minds.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 16, 2010, 01:55:06 PM
LOOK AT HIS CLOTHING

THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DATE THIS IS BY FINDING OUT WHERE THAT TOP WAS MADE AND WHEN.

THE TOP IS VERY DISTINCTIVE

IT HAS A "W" ON IT.



(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/15/38/19/26/mj12.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: PJ4MJ on July 16, 2010, 02:10:41 PM
1. Grainy
2. Dark
3. Person is almost completely covered up, which makes it hard to see features
4. No audio to hear voice
5. Plain background
6. Black and white
7. No way to tell when it was made

Conclusion:  FAKE

Why can't any of these "sources" provide something that gives them undeniable credibility?  If they wish to remain anonymous, then at least send it to some reputable source with proof that substantiates its authenticity.  But they can't, so instead they post some obscure something on the net and let everyone run wild with it.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2010, 02:24:54 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
LOOK AT HIS CLOTHING

THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DATE THIS IS BY FINDING OUT WHERE THAT TOP WAS MADE AND WHEN.

THE TOP IS VERY DISTINCTIVE

IT HAS A "W" ON IT.



(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/15/38/19/26/mj12.jpg)

Focusing on the top....has that chest female breast? :shock:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ForTheTruth on July 16, 2010, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
LOOK AT HIS CLOTHING

THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DATE THIS IS BY FINDING OUT WHERE THAT TOP WAS MADE AND WHEN.

THE TOP IS VERY DISTINCTIVE

IT HAS A "W" ON IT.



(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/15/38/19/26/mj12.jpg)

Focusing on the top....has that chest female breast? :shock:

 :lol: ...the t-shirt is to big for me to tell.  :/
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2010, 02:32:53 PM
Should be an effect then  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 16, 2010, 03:46:03 PM
I dont understand how this video has been debunked.

So its been slowed down by someone.. but where the footage come from of MJ in the first place?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 16, 2010, 04:10:20 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I dont understand how this video has been debunked.

So its been slowed down by someone.. but where the footage come from of MJ in the first place?


In the video? That's not MJ...
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 16, 2010, 04:13:36 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I dont understand how this video has been debunked.

So its been slowed down by someone.. but where the footage come from of MJ in the first place?
Who says it is even MJ?
If the video was recorded as presented, in the original description on Leachim's youtube, why darken it, why slow it down, why is it clips spliced together and made to look as one continuous video?

This is the third video that SELENA1974 (aka Andromeda) has put up that is questioned, the other 2 were debunked and she removed them. If the source is crap so is the video.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 16, 2010, 04:17:15 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I dont understand how this video has been debunked.

So its been slowed down by someone.. but where the footage come from of MJ in the first place?
Who says it is even MJ?
If the video was recorded as presented, in the original description on Leachim's youtube, why darken it, why slow it down, why is it clips spliced together and made to look as one continuous video?

This is the third video that SELENA1974 (aka Andromeda) has put up that is questioned, the other 2 were debunked and she removed them. If the source is crap so is the video.


Ok that makes sense.  Now you have explained it in plain English i understand
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 16, 2010, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I dont understand how this video has been debunked.

So its been slowed down by someone.. but where the footage come from of MJ in the first place?
Who says it is even MJ?
If the video was recorded as presented, in the original description on Leachim's youtube, why darken it, why slow it down, why is it clips spliced together and made to look as one continuous video?

This is the third video that SELENA1974 (aka Andromeda) has put up that is questioned, the other 2 were debunked and she removed them. If the source is crap so is the video.


Ok that makes sense.  Now you have explained it in plain English i understand

Also if that is the same Leachim that used to be on Hyves, they have also been debunked as a faker months ago and possibly linked to Mediahypeagain on twitter, another game player.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2010, 04:25:24 PM
Leachim is not from Holland? and Media Hype again, isn´t he italian?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 16, 2010, 05:03:11 PM
Off topic maybe, but MHA is indeed a mind player, just look at his videos and the way he treats people. Maura puts all her trust in him and clearly doesn't see his true intentions.

When I told him plain out on Twitter he was f*cking with people's heads, I got very nasty replies from other MHA folowers. They think he is Mike, I am certain he is not. He exposed himself on this board, he now hates me. I don't give a ****, I am glad he finally keeps his mouth shut. I hope someone hacked his Twitter account.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 16, 2010, 06:30:04 PM
I went to http://twitter.com/KristenBorgine (http://twitter.com/KristenBorgine) and I've seen she is following Annimunchkin (Annie) http://twitter.com/Annimunchkin (http://twitter.com/Annimunchkin)  who keeps in contact with MediaHypeAgain

some of Annimunchin's tweets:

R.I.P. King of Pop... One year later and you are still missed and loved so much :(
5:56 PM Jun 25th via web

@MediaHypeAgain I was thinking of you today, wishing you could be back :( you funny, crazy, bigfoot, boy did we love to hate each other
Thu Jul 08 2010 20:24:39 (Central Europe Daylight Time) via web

@wearehisvoice Hey..can't pick up right now. can you DM me? or better, can you come on skype, I can pop on for a few mins and we can type
10:05 PM Jun 7th via web

O_O

@WeAreHisVoice <3 I'm still here for you, and will be here when you need me, always :(
10:22 PM Jun 3rd via web

@WeAreHisVoice @ThatFlower <3 <3 <3
Tue Jun 01 2010 17:49:58 (Central Europe Daylight Time) via web
@WeAreHisVoice how are you doing today gf? keep hanging in there...keeping busy is a great distraction, i think we all need that :(
Tue Jun 01 2010 17:42:54 (Central Europe Daylight Time) via web
@WeAreHisVoice yes ma'am <3
Tue Jun 01 2010 17:40:29 (Central Europe Daylight Time) via web in reply to WeAreHisVoice
@ThatFlower how are you doing today gf? just hang in there :(
Tue Jun 01 2010 17:31:02 (Central Europe Daylight Time) via web
@WeAreHisVoice plumpers, 44 plus, over 50.... ????????
Tue Jun 01 2010 17:28:27 (Central Europe Daylight Time) via web

@MediaHypeAgain please, please take care of Jonathan's peaches and his flower, and his other little angels ;(;(;((
4:20 AM May 29th via web
           ???????

what have you done :( how can I believe that my best friend is really gone...so worried about your peaches and your flower right now ;((
3:57 AM May 29th via web

@ShesGonnaBeMrs Its my fault too :( :(...that's a burden we will both bear for the rest of our lives...I think about it everyday.. :( :( :(
4:16 PM Sep 26th, 2009 via web

I suppose "his flower" is "ThatFlower" on twitter, Jonathan's gf? Whatever.. O_O

Who is this person?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: mumof3 on July 16, 2010, 06:36:56 PM
wasnt there talk a very long time ago of a very close double by the name of jonathon it was a long time ago before the barry shaw stuff
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: luchy on July 16, 2010, 06:55:57 PM
weird  :?
off topics  :arrow: you saw the video clip Simply Red-Fake
 at minute 1:20 appears a Michael Jackson?   :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: mykidsmum on July 16, 2010, 06:58:56 PM
I don't get what the controversy is...it looks like MJ during TII.  It's probably just footage of him someone took of him messing around...no big deal.  It is him no doubt.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 16, 2010, 07:00:49 PM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
I don't get what the controversy is...it looks like MJ during TII.  It's probably just footage of him someone took of him messing around...no big deal.  It is him no doubt.

Trying to see who could be behind it
And yes, I think we all agee for once: This is not Michael
Lol
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 16, 2010, 07:04:50 PM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Who is this person?

Quote from: "mumof3"
wasnt there talk a very long time ago of a very close double by the name of jonathon it was a long time ago before the barry shaw stuff

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-jackson-hoax-death-theories-f2/updated-informant-makes-2nd-contact-provides-more-clues-on-jonathan-t1066.htm

WeAreHisVoice is Maura.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 16, 2010, 07:10:17 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Who is this person?

Quote from: "mumof3"
wasnt there talk a very long time ago of a very close double by the name of jonathon it was a long time ago before the barry shaw stuff

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-jackson-hoax-death-theories-f2/updated-informant-makes-2nd-contact-provides-more-clues-on-jonathan-t1066.htm

This is sick...
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 16, 2010, 07:13:19 PM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
I don't get what the controversy is...it looks like MJ during TII.  It's probably just footage of him someone took of him messing around...no big deal.  It is him no doubt.

Because in the video comments:
LeachimNoskcaj
8 hours ago
It was recorded in May 2010.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9NLgZKLb4
Which is not true...

and Selena1974 has done this with 2 other videos as well. Claiming they were recent and were messages from Michael and this was proven a lie.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: dragonflylilies on July 16, 2010, 07:19:43 PM
I can honestly say that there are parts of this where I can see MJ, but I am also looking at every single feature that he had.  I really think this is an impersonator.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 16, 2010, 07:30:33 PM
Quote from: "dragonflylilies"
I can honestly say that there are parts of this where I can see MJ, but I am also looking at every single feature that he had.  I really think this is an impersonator.

Posted on the other site:

by kingwillreturn » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:44 pm
I don't know what to think, i have took screenshots of the vid, Check them out.

[attachment=1:1dmynveg]mj - Copy.jpg[/attachment:1dmynveg]

[attachment=0:1dmynveg]mj1 - Copy.jpg[/attachment:1dmynveg]

Doesn't look like MJ to me.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Lemonbread904 on July 16, 2010, 08:09:16 PM
Doesn't Michael have the armband on the right arm. This video is showing the left arm.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: scorpionchik on July 16, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9NLgZKLb4&feature=related[/quote]

This theory makes sene for some of us who, during the first months after MJ died, tought that he could have been in rehab after a coma.[/quote]

You just described one of my scary thoughts long time ago. I have had thoughts Michael has a psychological problem as a propofol and other medication overdose consequense and he is recovering in the apropriate clinic. If this is the case, I hope not, he will never be back. :(  I
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: msteetee34 on July 17, 2010, 02:46:27 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
I posted a thread called Cardiac arrest does not equal to death and how resurrection techniques are applied succesfully to "clinically dead" people.

I´ll try to find it.

There's a special coming on CNN tomorrow which is dealing with Cardiac arrest and this subject with Dr. Sanjuay Gupta.  I think this will be a good program to check out.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: iMISSYOUMJ on July 17, 2010, 05:31:28 AM
His facial features kinda reminds me of Dave Dave.  Lol!  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: mumof3 on July 17, 2010, 06:36:12 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Who is this person?

Quote from: "mumof3"
wasnt there talk a very long time ago of a very close double by the name of jonathon it was a long time ago before the barry shaw stuff

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-jackson-hoax-death-theories-f2/updated-informant-makes-2nd-contact-provides-more-clues-on-jonathan-t1066.htm

WeAreHisVoice is Maura.
thankyou for finding the link
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 17, 2010, 08:25:01 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-jackson-hoax-death-theories-f2/updated-informant-makes-2nd-contact-provides-more-clues-on-jonathan-t1066.htm


I totally forgot about that theory. This is so confusing.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 17, 2010, 08:41:19 AM
Quote from: "mumof3"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Who is this person?

Quote from: "mumof3"
wasnt there talk a very long time ago of a very close double by the name of jonathon it was a long time ago before the barry shaw stuff

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-jackson-hoax-death-theories-f2/updated-informant-makes-2nd-contact-provides-more-clues-on-jonathan-t1066.htm

WeAreHisVoice is Maura.
thankyou for finding the link

I know WeAreHisVoice is Maura, what I didn't know was who Annimunchkin is  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 17, 2010, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "mumof3"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Who is this person?

Quote from: "mumof3"
wasnt there talk a very long time ago of a very close double by the name of jonathon it was a long time ago before the barry shaw stuff

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-jackson-hoax-death-theories-f2/updated-informant-makes-2nd-contact-provides-more-clues-on-jonathan-t1066.htm

WeAreHisVoice is Maura.
thankyou for finding the link

I know WeAreHisVoice is Maura, what I didn't know was who Annimunchkin is  :lol:

I have no idea who Anniemunchkin is. She is just some girl who lives in Alberta, Canada that MHA had an affair with, that ended his engagement, to the mother of his baby girl. They were all chatters in the meebo chat room that is on peterpanpyt's myspace. Peter sings Michael's  songs in this chat sometimes and many people think he is Michael which he isn't. Just as they think MHA is Michael, which he isn't. Just as the think Leachim is Michael which he isn't. But all these fakers let everyone think that they are Michael.

This sounds like one big huge soap opera.

Did anyone notice that the youtube account that posted that video originally was LeachimNoskcaj which is Michael Jackson backwards?

If the youtuber is fake isn't it also logical that the video is fake too?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: SiMTii on July 17, 2010, 10:28:18 AM
Well I have to say that the sill shots look almost identical to Michael. Having said that, they are taken from a shot and angle that is not seen in the video. I wonder what the deal is with that?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 17, 2010, 10:35:20 AM
But peterpanpyt already said he wasn't Michael and even uploaded a conversation he had with a friend of his and doesn't sound at all like him

..I don't know what other proof do they need to believe that's not Michael..  :?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 17, 2010, 11:26:35 AM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
But peterpanpyt already said he wasn't Michael and even uploaded a conversation he had with a friend of his and doesn't sound at all like him

..I don't know what other proof do they need to believe that's not Michael..  :?

I listened to most of that conversation and the guy he talked with has never seen Peter. The guy was also asking why he let's people think he is Michael and why he does things that make people think he is and he suggested that Peter stop putting up pictures of Michael and put up one of his own. Peter had no answer for any of that. Peter says he isn't Michael but he does things to make them think he is and I believe he loves the attention.

When Leachim was on hyves he would say he wasn't Michael on his page but would claim to be on Michael in his chat or in pm's and he would do things to imply that he was.

The Leachim on youtube has said in the comments on this video when asked about their name:

MJisALIVEru 1 day ago
LeachimNoskcaj is an anagram of Michael Jackson.

LeachimNoskcaj 1 day ago
It is not an anagram.
This is me.

If that isn't implying that you are Michael Jackson I don't know what is.

And ALL of these people started out in Peterpanpyt's chat room on his myspace. So what does that mean?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 17, 2010, 11:31:10 AM
Good observation Serenity. Why there? and for what?

Could it be the same person all over?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 17, 2010, 04:08:37 PM
Reminds me of this:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 17, 2010, 04:27:09 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Reminds me of this:

Look, the person who originally put up the video is LeachimNoskcaj which is Michael Jackson backwards. Do you honestly believe that he is really Michael? I hope not. So if he isn't, then the circumstances that have been given as to how this video was recorded, where it was recorded etc are untrue. Therefore the video is a fake even if it is Michael which it sure doesn't look like it to me. Plus, the video has been manipulated as I have already said.

As for Andromeda, she stated she took it off Leachim's youtube, then she says someone gave it to her. She has previously uploaded a video claiming some guy gave it to her and it was a MESSAGE from Michael recorded AFTER June 25th 2009. I found the original video and it was a message Michael made years ago for his German fans because of a devastating flood in Germany. Andromeda also uploaded a video with an audio Message she claimed was also RECORDED AFTER June 25th 2009. I found the web page in which the original audio is and it a site which was offering bracelets in support of Michael at one time (I think maybe during the trial or something) and Michael had recorded a message for them in his appreciation.

Andromeda is full of BS and if you want to believe what she is feeding you then so be it that is your right but do so being aware that she plays with people. I have no idea why she has done these things, I don't even know who she is, it was her false videos that brought her to my attention.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 17, 2010, 04:34:25 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Reminds me of this:

Look, the person who originally put up the video is LeachimNoskcaj which is Michael Jackson backwards. Do you honestly believe that he is really Michael? I hope not. So if he isn't, then the circumstances that have been given as to how this video was recorded, where it was recorded etc are untrue. Therefore the video is a fake even if it is Michael which it sure doesn't look like it to me. Plus, the video has been manipulated as I have already said.

As for Andromeda, she stated she took it off Leachim's youtube, then she says someone gave it to her. She has previously uploaded a video claiming some guy gave it to her and it was a MESSAGE from Michael recorded AFTER June 25th 2009. I found the original video and it was a message Michael made years ago for his German fans because of a devastating flood in Germany. Andromeda also uploaded a video with an audio Message she claimed was also RECORDED AFTER June 25th 2009. I found the web page in which the original audio is and it a site which was offering bracelets in support of Michael at one time (I think maybe during the trial or something) and Michael had recorded a message for them in his appreciation.

Andromeda is full of BS and if you want to believe what she is feeding you then so be it that is your right but do so being aware that she plays with people. I have no idea why she has done these things, I don't even know who she is, it was her false videos that brought her to my attention.


UUHH.. where did i say i believed her?  Think i might have posted those pics to debunk..  yes i did.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 17, 2010, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Reminds me of this:

Look, the person who originally put up the video is LeachimNoskcaj which is Michael Jackson backwards. Do you honestly believe that he is really Michael? I hope not. So if he isn't, then the circumstances that have been given as to how this video was recorded, where it was recorded etc are untrue. Therefore the video is a fake even if it is Michael which it sure doesn't look like it to me. Plus, the video has been manipulated as I have already said.

As for Andromeda, she stated she took it off Leachim's youtube, then she says someone gave it to her. She has previously uploaded a video claiming some guy gave it to her and it was a MESSAGE from Michael recorded AFTER June 25th 2009. I found the original video and it was a message Michael made years ago for his German fans because of a devastating flood in Germany. Andromeda also uploaded a video with an audio Message she claimed was also RECORDED AFTER June 25th 2009. I found the web page in which the original audio is and it a site which was offering bracelets in support of Michael at one time (I think maybe during the trial or something) and Michael had recorded a message for them in his appreciation.

Andromeda is full of BS and if you want to believe what she is feeding you then so be it that is your right but do so being aware that she plays with people. I have no idea why she has done these things, I don't even know who she is, it was her false videos that brought her to my attention.


UUHH.. where did i say i believed her?  Think i might have posted those pics to debunk..  yes i did.
You never stated your intentions and as the photos seem to be similar to what is in the video, I don't think it unreasonable for me to have thought you were posting the photos in support of the video. The rest of what I said was in general so everyone knows what Andromeda and Leachim have been up to and not necessarily directed at you.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: reading_on on July 17, 2010, 05:35:54 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "ER911"
If it's a fake, it a very good one. It looks exactly like Michael in the still shot.

If it is not fake then the circumstances in which it is being presented are not the truth just as the previous video from the flood in Germany was presented as a current message from Michael. When in fact it was several years old and had been edited so that it wasn't directed to the German flood victims but appeared to be directed towards fans in general.

As can be seen from the increased speed version, the video is very short and is pieces that have been spliced together, it was then in slow motion to make it appear as one continuous video clip of an unhealthy person.

 No, you are mistaken about the intention. Being in video, my husband is very accustomed to surveillance video. It could be a fake, but what they would be faking is a real security cam sequence. Most good security cams take video by image sequences (every 3 seconds). A real security cam image sequence would look jumpy like this.

The part that makes him think it is fake is logical questions:

1. Why is the subject centered? Most cams do not catch people this way.

2. Where is anything else in the room?

3. Why is the lighting overexposed?

Edited to say: I think I actually remember some footage of MJ that looks like this. He was dancing in sweat jacket, but this video has been so overexposed you can't tell if it is what I am remembering or something totally different like not him at all.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 17, 2010, 05:49:24 PM
Quote from: "reading_on"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "ER911"
If it's a fake, it a very good one. It looks exactly like Michael in the still shot.

If it is not fake then the circumstances in which it is being presented are not the truth just as the previous video from the flood in Germany was presented as a current message from Michael. When in fact it was several years old and had been edited so that it wasn't directed to the German flood victims but appeared to be directed towards fans in general.

As can be seen from the increased speed version, the video is very short and is pieces that have been spliced together, it was then in slow motion to make it appear as one continuous video clip of an unhealthy person.

 No, you are mistaken about the intention.

no you are wrong about what I meant about "Intention"

This is the intention:


Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
I found two more links with the same video but the date is June 18 2010.  Someone is trying to fool us or maybe that could be MJ..:?

This vídeo comes from  the youtube account
LeachimNoskcaj  |  June 18, 2010

the description comes written in Spanish  :?
(I used google...too tired to translate)
The video has a secret very strong and important to the future.
Shows a person inside a room, trying to dance with difficulties.
This man was sick, and recovery from cardiac arrest.
When her dance moves have taken the first, a single camera recorded the moment.
Before leaving the place, wearing loose clothes, tied the belt in the upper belly, wearing a cap and a blouse with long, cold touch to dress up.
He wore sunglasses to hide his eyes, and put a surgical mask in the nose and mouth to avoid being recognized.
You can see a face.
Before using the mask, the images were recorded.
and this is what you see.
He had fun trying to sing, even dew, I tried.
He used his arm band leader at the time of recording, and retired and went

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9NLgZKLb4&feature=related

They tell us Michael was in a clinic after a coma and decided to jump up and start dancing and singing and that this was recorded after June 25th 2009 and the person who originally uploaded the video is implying that he is Michael Jackson.
FAKE!
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: reading_on on July 17, 2010, 06:04:28 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "reading_on"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "ER911"
If it's a fake, it a very good one. It looks exactly like Michael in the still shot.

If it is not fake then the circumstances in which it is being presented are not the truth just as the previous video from the flood in Germany was presented as a current message from Michael. When in fact it was several years old and had been edited so that it wasn't directed to the German flood victims but appeared to be directed towards fans in general.

As can be seen from the increased speed version, the video is very short and is pieces that have been spliced together, it was then in slow motion to make it appear as one continuous video clip of an unhealthy person.

 No, you are mistaken about the intention.

no you are wrong about what I meant about "Intention"

This is the intention:


Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
I found two more links with the same video but the date is June 18 2010.  Someone is trying to fool us or maybe that could be MJ..:?

This vídeo comes from  the youtube account
LeachimNoskcaj  |  June 18, 2010

the description comes written in Spanish  :?
(I used google...too tired to translate)
The video has a secret very strong and important to the future.
Shows a person inside a room, trying to dance with difficulties.
This man was sick, and recovery from cardiac arrest.
When her dance moves have taken the first, a single camera recorded the moment.
Before leaving the place, wearing loose clothes, tied the belt in the upper belly, wearing a cap and a blouse with long, cold touch to dress up.
He wore sunglasses to hide his eyes, and put a surgical mask in the nose and mouth to avoid being recognized.
You can see a face.
Before using the mask, the images were recorded.
and this is what you see.
He had fun trying to sing, even dew, I tried.
He used his arm band leader at the time of recording, and retired and went

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9NLgZKLb4&feature=related

They tell us Michael was in a clinic after a coma and decided to jump up and start dancing and singing and that this was recorded after June 25th 2009 and the person who originally uploaded the video is implying that he is Michael Jackson.
FAKE!


That's not what I meant. I know they want us to believe that he was sick. I am saying they want us also to believe it is a security camera, so they must present it in a fashion that resembles image sequences from this type of camera.

It is absolutely, positively and without a doubt footage trying to mimic a security camera. Either it is a real security camera or it mimics one.

Oh BTW, does this person ever say this is Michael or just say somebody.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: AnaMarcia on July 17, 2010, 06:42:36 PM
In the end, the movements resemble Michael completely.
The neck, chin and lips is also Michael!
But I can never be sure when it's a fake or is Mike :  :roll: :
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: reading_on on July 17, 2010, 07:04:52 PM
Food for thought. Michael is sitting with K.O. in TII. He has a hood over his head, he is laughing and falls sort of forward. These frames could have been skewed and reedited. Then they could have added the bottom.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: AvaMarie on July 17, 2010, 09:52:15 PM
Strange video but I don't think it's Michael.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MYLOVELYONE on July 17, 2010, 10:31:57 PM
hey I can't watch the video but if is the one of the pics he does look like michael look at his mouth
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ForTheTruth on July 17, 2010, 11:28:16 PM
hmmm well some in the chat said they found out it was DOM in the video and that the video is not recent and andromeda closed her account on facebook and youtube... so i guess the truth came out.   :roll:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 17, 2010, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
hmmm well some in the chat said they found out it was DOM in the video and that the video is not recent and andromeda closed her account on facebook and youtube... so i guess the truth came out.   :roll:

Yes her youtube is gone.

DOM being the guy who supposedly left messages that sounded like Michael on peterpanpyt's myspace, that DOM again?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ForTheTruth on July 18, 2010, 12:01:59 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
hmmm well some in the chat said they found out it was DOM in the video and that the video is not recent and andromeda closed her account on facebook and youtube... so i guess the truth came out.   :roll:

Yes her youtube is gone.

DOM being the guy who supposedly left messages that sounded like Michael on peterpanpyt's myspace, that DOM again?


yes.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 18, 2010, 12:14:53 AM
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
hmmm well some in the chat said they found out it was DOM in the video and that the video is not recent and andromeda closed her account on facebook and youtube... so i guess the truth came out.   :roll:

Yes her youtube is gone.

DOM being the guy who supposedly left messages that sounded like Michael on peterpanpyt's myspace, that DOM again?


yes.
Well, isn't that ironic. We are lead right back to the mysterious Peter on myspace again. Seems all the fake stuff has originated from either that page or the chat room on that myspace. I definitely see that something is going on with all that.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ForTheTruth on July 18, 2010, 01:07:45 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
hmmm well some in the chat said they found out it was DOM in the video and that the video is not recent and andromeda closed her account on facebook and youtube... so i guess the truth came out.   :roll:

Yes her youtube is gone.

DOM being the guy who supposedly left messages that sounded like Michael on peterpanpyt's myspace, that DOM again?


yes.
Well, isn't that ironic. We are lead right back to the mysterious Peter on myspace again. Seems all the fake stuff has originated from either that page or the chat room on that myspace. I definitely see that something is going on with all that.


Yep, the truth prevailed on this one.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: jessicakthx on July 18, 2010, 02:07:27 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Gema"
When she posted the flood Germany message she said that someone gave her the video.
Gema I know all about it. I found the original video and posted it to my youtube and confronted her. She then removed the one she had up.

I did the same thing and then she blocked me. In my opinion you wouldn't need to go to that length if you truly believed what you posted was real.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 18, 2010, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
hmmm well some in the chat said they found out it was DOM in the video and that the video is not recent and andromeda closed her account on facebook and youtube... so i guess the truth came out.   :roll:

Yes her youtube is gone.

DOM being the guy who supposedly left messages that sounded like Michael on peterpanpyt's myspace, that DOM again?


yes.
Well, isn't that ironic. We are lead right back to the mysterious Peter on myspace again. Seems all the fake stuff has originated from either that page or the chat room on that myspace. I definitely see that something is going on with all that.

I am starting to suspect the same, Serenity.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 18, 2010, 09:33:59 AM
Yesterday she said in twitter that people should met her at her chat room to talk about something very important.
Her twitter is gone as well.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 18, 2010, 01:45:59 PM
Here is lightened pictures taken from the video and the video ...IMO its him. Look at the mouth, chin, nose, jawline...I've never seen an impersonator that looks this much like MJ. Being video taped by security camera would explain the jerky movements
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/45662-1.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/456466-1.jpg)
[youtube:2rbcr96r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwFO2UBBdAQ[/youtube:2rbcr96r]

You talk about DOM, do you have pictures or video of DOM??
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 18, 2010, 02:00:33 PM
The security camera theory has its lagoons.
Why would a secutiry camera be spotting a white wall? :?:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 18, 2010, 02:02:48 PM
Also, the still shot it´s flipped. In the still shot the "W" on the t-shirt shows on the left to us (his right) and in the video the opposite, like a mirror image.

This video is very disturbing.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 18, 2010, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
The security camera theory has its lagoons.
Why would a secutiry camera be spotting a white wall? :?:
The white wall could be the end of a hallway corridor, or a stairwell, or a basement, there are many possible explanations.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 18, 2010, 02:14:25 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Also, the still shot it´s flipped. In the still shot the "W" on the t-shirt shows on the left to us (his right) and in the video the opposite, like a mirror image.

This video is very disturbing.
I noticed the still is flipped too, but IMO not important becuz flipping a still is easy enuf to do in photoshop, IDK why they would feel the need to flip the still becuz it dont matter. The main thing is tht the still is taken from that video...can tell by his shirt, hat, hoodie.

The only thing disturbing about this video, IMO, is that its leaked video & that in its self is disturbing.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 18, 2010, 02:18:07 PM
The pic reminds me of michael, but the video...not at all.

Where can the video been taken?
Considering that the accounts belonging to Andromeda are not open anymore, why all this madness?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 18, 2010, 02:30:09 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
The pic reminds me of michael, but the video...not at all.

Where can the video been taken?
Considering that the accounts belonging to Andromeda are not open anymore, why all this madness?
The video is from LeachimNoskcaj youtube account.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9NLgZK ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9NLgZKLb4&feature=related)

LeachimNoskcaj is Michael Jackson spelt backwards. The video has been on internet for about a month, it says it was recorded in May, I just seen it last week for the first time.

IDK if LeachimNoskcaj is the one that leaked the video. BTW LeachimNoskcaj also has facebook account.

IMO the video looks like him, IMO it looks like hes laughing his ass off in the video.

Yes, Andro did shut down accounts today.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 18, 2010, 02:46:32 PM
Thanks.
Where is the video taken? in a basement?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: tekamjforever on July 18, 2010, 03:57:10 PM
OMG, it's actually a very scary video ... It seems that the person is "stuck" in a corridor of the hospital, clinic, or even a prison ... :shock:  Although that image more closely resembles the real Mike, than the images from the press conference in London ... :roll:  If this is really an assembly, how can people be so evil, I really do not understand why. :cry:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 18, 2010, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: "tekamjforever"
OMG, it's actually a very scary video ... It seems that the person is "stuck" in a corridor of the hospital, clinic, or even a prison ... :shock:  Although that image more closely resembles the real Mike, than the images from the press conference in London ... :roll:  If this is really an assembly, how can people be so evil, I really do not understand why. :cry:

That was the purpose of the video..make that person, allegedly Michael, look as if he was in a clinic or in a rehabillitation center but that's totally fake, people really enjoy hurting our feelings..
That's sick.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: tabloidburn on July 18, 2010, 04:35:56 PM
i saw this yesterday on the andromeda chat. i dunno what to think of it and the story that came with it. the 'security camera' is not right at all. no surveillance cam points straight at you. they're usually up in a corner somewhere. so this is def a very lousy cam or edited to make it look like surveillance footage. in the chat, it wasn't really much info given about it, all a big secret. of course, no names, a lot of drama cuz ppl were going nutz in there. altogether it was more like 'talkin' loud and sayin' nothin', to be honest. i also noticed some kind of rivalry going on between hoaxers, some bashing others. kind of unpleasant...

about the coma/ clinic: i don't see a reason why they should go on with a hoax when mike was in a coma. why lie when you can just tell the truth? why put murray through the manslaughter trial if you could have just said he's in a coma? why go through all this memorial/ funeral action? just to make sure mike can recover? like he couldn't have otherwise? just won't make sense to me and it won't fit anything that was found so far regarding prior planning of timelines, clues given years ago etc. even if staying in some kind of rehab was part of the plan, it's not because of a coma, imo.

regarding 'mike caught on tape': it does look a lot like mike and it was said so on the chat, like 'confirmed' by andromeda or rather her sources. but that's exactly the problem: i seriously, seriously doubt that mike would wear his signature armband and sunglasses if he's in hiding somewhere or in a clinic that's supposed to be secret. even if he was in a clinic, i doubt that at this point in time, he would wear clothes that would so easily identify him. i certainly wouldn't, unless i wanted the whole thing to blow up...

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: CC on July 18, 2010, 04:43:07 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
about the coma/ clinic: i don't see a reason why they should go on with a hoax when mike was in a coma. why lie when you can just tell the truth? why put murray through the manslaughter trial if you could have just said he's in a coma? why go through all this memorial/ funeral action? just to make sure mike can recover? like he couldn't have otherwise? just won't make sense to me and it won't fit anything that was found so far regarding prior planning of timelines, clues given years ago etc. even if staying in some kind of rehab was part of the plan, it's not because of a coma, imo.
 :mrgreen:

i don´t think is him, but about the coma theory i think that maybe that is why jermaine say "...my bother the king of pop has died..." and randy (i think) say "...my brother donpt have a voice anymore---" or something like that... :roll:  maybe a botched tracheotomy had damaged his  vocal cords? :roll:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: tabloidburn on July 18, 2010, 04:56:57 PM
@cc:

still...the coma would have been an accident and all the results of that as well. like damage to the vocal chords etc. that would mean that each and every timeline, every date that was already confirmed to be a part of the hoax is null and void, if it happened that way. it just doesn't make sense if you look at all the information gathered so far. cuz it would mean that mike was possibly unconscious for quite some time, maybe months, and is now slowly recovering, so there is no way he could direct this hoax in any way or supervise anything if he was in a recovering state.

i took care of a friend after 'only' a week of coma and it took months before he could walk straight and function right and a whole year for a full recovery. there would have been no way mike could be directing all this if he had been in a coma and is still not moving right by may 2010. no way.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: AnaMarcia on July 18, 2010, 04:58:16 PM
I think that is really our Michael, but so what? May be an image of any place whatsoever. I think he can be ensainado in your own home. After all there is also the security cameras.
Someone threw it on the Net to play with us. The image can even be real, but the story about her seems fake. :?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: CC on July 18, 2010, 05:00:49 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
@cc:

still...the coma would have been an accident and all the results of that as well. like damage to the vocal chords etc. that would mean that each and every timeline, every date that was already confirmed to be a part of the hoax is null and void, if it happened that way. it just doesn't make sense if you look at all the information gathered so far. cuz it would mean that mike was possibly unconscious for quite some time, maybe months, and is now slowly recovering, so there is no way he could direct this hoax in any way or supervise anything if he was in a recovering state.

i took care of a friend after 'only' a week of coma and it took months before he could walk straight and function right and a whole year for a full recovery. there would have been no way mike could be directing all this if he had been in a coma and is still not moving right by may 2010. no way.

 :mrgreen:

sorry, i must say IF... i don´t believe in the coma theory but what IF then they come with this, like he was in coma and all that...?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 18, 2010, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
about the coma/ clinic: i don't see a reason why they should go on with a hoax when mike was in a coma. why lie when you can just tell the truth? why put murray through the manslaughter trial if you could have just said he's in a coma? why go through all this memorial/ funeral action? just to make sure mike can recover? like he couldn't have otherwise? just won't make sense to me and it won't fit anything that was found so far regarding prior planning of timelines, clues given years ago etc. even if staying in some kind of rehab was part of the plan, it's not because of a coma, imo.
 :mrgreen:

i don´t think is him, but about the coma theory i think that maybe that is why jermaine say "...my bother the king of pop has died..." and randy (i think) say "...my brother donpt have a voice anymore---" or something like that... :roll:  maybe a botched tracheotomy had damaged his  vocal cords? :roll:
Maybe it was 'Michael Joseph Jackson' the entertainer's passing/ died & 'Michael Joe Jackson' the man is still alive. And all the slip ups from family members...I remember when Joe was talking in an interview about Dr Murray saying something like ' after all Dr Murray is the reason Michaels unable to be with his family at this time'. I remember thinking at the time...if Michael had really passed, he would be with family, family that passed before him, but thats not what Joe said.

BTW who is Peter & DOM are there pictures or videos of these people??

As far as the coma & the time lines of MJ directing the hoax, it could be that hoax was directed by the family, after all Jermaine, Randy, Janet etc are all very creative people and they would do anything for Michael, maybe they were hoping at the time he would recover from coma & he did, it really could be that simple.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 18, 2010, 05:39:35 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
i saw this yesterday on the andromeda chat.

Do you know who Andromeda is? Why are all of Andromeda´s chat, channels, twitter...all deleted?

What happened in that chat? what was the conclusion of all? a sick gaem by some bored attention seekers? haters may be?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 18, 2010, 06:41:04 PM
From the other forum:

Quote from: "squall"
*Bingoooo .....I think we have a winner here !!! 8-)

(http://www.michaeljackson.com/sites/mjackson/files/imagecache/preview/photos/942177298_6_rAEb.jpeg)
(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/15/38/19/26/mj10.jpg)

photoshoped ... next please !!!

Quote from: "Alem"
This image in NOT seen in the video provided. Therefore this person who was trying to fool people cropped and manipulated this photo which I know I seen before (Thanks squall ). Its a fake trying to resemble Michael and the person looking like Michael in the video.

Quote from: "squall"
sweety ...this photo is not from the video!  (k)
have u been following us here ??

"credits goes to a member in Arabic hoax forum"
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 18, 2010, 07:17:39 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
i saw this yesterday on the andromeda chat.

Do you know who Andromeda is? Why are all of Andromeda´s chat, channels, twitter...all deleted?

What happened in that chat? what was the conclusion of all? a sick gaem by some bored attention seekers? haters may be?

I've seen she's back on twitter: https://twitter.com/ANDROMEDACM (https://twitter.com/ANDROMEDACM)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: suspicious mind on July 19, 2010, 08:39:19 PM
did someone say madness! come to think of it this does make me think of the nice quiet rooms we will all be in before long with our cute little jackets :cry:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 20, 2010, 08:54:10 AM
Her twitter is locked.
Any "spy" near by?  :oops:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 20, 2010, 03:45:16 PM
From the other forum:
Re: What is it? (video)
Post by Natali » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:09 pm

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=10059&start=540#p311113

Quote from: "Natali"
cris       July 19th, 2010 2:07 pm ET
Long story short, that was the clip which I recorded a few months ago of me saying hello to everyone here at the blog and me singing the chorus to The Man in the Mirror for all my girls here and someone went and stripped the audio and is now claiming on YouTube that it is Michael in 2010...


cris         July 19th, 2010 11:06 pm ET
Thank you all for your beautiful messages...I need that very much. For those of you that saw the clip, this is what I normally wear when going out; for those of you that missed the clip. Someone else has re-posted the clip and oh boy...it is becoming viral and misconstrued. If you search on YouTube for "MICHAEL JACKSON-THE ULTIMATE HOAX-EXTRAS-PT-2" you will find it...Stay Strong..Love you all and Marguerite the best of luck to you in Florida. It is a beautiful place. I had a condo in Miami.

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2010 ... /#comments (http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/14/neverland-ranch-to-become-a-state-park/#comments)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 20, 2010, 04:38:19 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
From the other forum:
Re: What is it? (video)
Post by Natali » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:09 pm

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=10059&start=540#p311113

Quote from: "Natali"
cris       July 19th, 2010 2:07 pm ET
Long story short, that was the clip which I recorded a few months ago of me saying hello to everyone here at the blog and me singing the chorus to The Man in the Mirror for all my girls here and someone went and stripped the audio and is now claiming on YouTube that it is Michael in 2010...


cris         July 19th, 2010 11:06 pm ET
Thank you all for your beautiful messages...I need that very much. For those of you that saw the clip, this is what I normally wear when going out; for those of you that missed the clip. Someone else has re-posted the clip and oh boy...it is becoming viral and misconstrued. If you search on YouTube for "MICHAEL JACKSON-THE ULTIMATE HOAX-EXTRAS-PT-2" you will find it...Stay Strong..Love you all and Marguerite the best of luck to you in Florida. It is a beautiful place. I had a condo in Miami.

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2010 ... /#comments (http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/14/neverland-ranch-to-become-a-state-park/#comments)

Huh.. O_O
THis is geting crazier day after day..
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 20, 2010, 04:59:10 PM
I told ya that video was manipulated.

Now Andromeda and Leachim NoskcaJ have both put this one up.
Whoever it is is moving just fine and not ill at all. Coma story is therefore complete BS. Parking Garage theory is out. Security Camera, not true, someone wanted to be filmed. Poor quality, on purpose, done with video editing.

Even this one has been messed with.
Photoshopped stills mixed with video clips. Repeated clips and we have no way of knowing when this was recorded or who the video is of; Michael or an impersonator.

The pictures look like maybe Michael but the video looks like someone trying to look like Michael. I just think it is someone messing with us and Andromeda seems to believe them. She is being "Hoaxed".

[youtube:8luimca0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjQfGHF6GE[/youtube:8luimca0]
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ForTheTruth on July 20, 2010, 05:39:18 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
I told ya that video was manipulated.

Now Andromeda and Leachim NoskcaJ have both put this one up.
Whoever it is is moving just fine and not ill at all. Coma story is therefore complete BS. Parking Garage theory is out. Security Camera, not true, someone wanted to be filmed. Poor quality, on purpose, done with video editing.

Even this one has been messed with.
Photoshopped stills mixed with video clips. Repeated clips and we have no way of knowing when this was recorded or who the video is of; Michael or an impersonator.

The pictures look like maybe Michael but the video looks like someone trying to look like Michael. I just think it is someone messing with us and Andromeda seems to believe them. She is being "Hoaxed".

[youtube:3vj4qrt2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjQfGHF6GE[/youtube:3vj4qrt2]


That video is just awkward to me. Than they use 2012 clip from the movie trailer... I'm just not believing it. Andromeda said in the chat the other day that her informers named M and C told her to tell the story about the coma. She said shes scared but yet she's puts another video up. To many stories overlapping. :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 20, 2010, 05:46:23 PM
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
I told ya that video was manipulated.

Now Andromeda and Leachim NoskcaJ have both put this one up.
Whoever it is is moving just fine and not ill at all. Coma story is therefore complete BS. Parking Garage theory is out. Security Camera, not true, someone wanted to be filmed. Poor quality, on purpose, done with video editing.

Even this one has been messed with.
Photoshopped stills mixed with video clips. Repeated clips and we have no way of knowing when this was recorded or who the video is of; Michael or an impersonator.

The pictures look like maybe Michael but the video looks like someone trying to look like Michael. I just think it is someone messing with us and Andromeda seems to believe them. She is being "Hoaxed".

[youtube:4j7muw8l]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjQfGHF6GE[/youtube:4j7muw8l]
That video is just awkward to me. Than they use 2012 clip from the movie trailer... I'm just not believing it. Andromeda said in the chat the other day that her informers named M and C told her to tell the story about the coma. She said shes scared but yet she's puts another video up. To many stories overlapping. :roll:  :roll:

I am no expert by any means but I have been making videos about this hoax for the last year and this is what I see is going on.

In my opinion, what you have here is a video being put up by Leachim NoskcaJ (obviously a faker).

Andromeda is either part of this or she is downloading the videos and re-uploading them on here channel. Either way she is fabricating how she is getting the "info" about these videos.

The latest video is a mix of photoshopped stills of Michael and video clips of someone impersonating him. You can tell this from the stationary shots, the chin one, the one where he should have something in his hand but it has been edited out etc.

The video itself is not continuous, it is clips that have been put together and repeated throughout the video with the still shots added.

The person in the video is moving just fine so the whole coma and clinic story is made up.
The video wasn't shot in a parking garage as some people suggested, that can also be seen from these clips. So that isn't true.
The video wasn't caught by a security camera, the person on the video is dancing around for the camera. So that isn't true either.
The video has been edited to give it a poor quality so it is harder to tell if it is Michael or not. If it really was Michael there would be no need to edit it in such a way.
The video was uploaded originally by Leachim NonkcaJ, someone who wants you to believe he is Michael and he really isn't.

My advice to all in regards to this.
How many untruths, fabrications, lies etc are required before something is called fake?
Andromeda is definitely not telling the truth about how she obtained this video unless she is completely unaware of Leahim NoskcaJ which I highly doubt. She has also uploaded 2 other videos which she claimed were recent and were debunked. Please do not let this continue to cause you to be upset and stop letting Andromeda, Leachim and others manipulate you. If people keep following them and believing, they will continue to play with emotions and feed off all that love and kindness which should be directed elsewhere and for much better causes than these fakers egos.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 20, 2010, 07:35:30 PM
So ya, I went into Andromeda's chat to ask her the tough questions. Like did she download the video from LeachiM NoskcaJ's channel and I was instantly banned  :lol:

I guess if you can't tell the truth, you have to ban those who ask for explanations, beyond the ridiculous ones you have given. Especially when what you have said makes no sense.

And here is that video again on another channel since Andromeda removed it.

[youtube:2n75dizp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_AC0JPT3PA[/youtube:2n75dizp]
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: superflysister81 on July 21, 2010, 05:41:37 AM
First of all Andromeda said this video was filmed by a security camera... Oh, really?  :lol:

So... why the dude is talking to the one who is filming him?

Second, if the video was true, don't you think they would have sold it to the media instead of posting it on a hoax forum or uploading it on youtube?

Third, he doesn't looks like Michael imo... no way...

 :roll:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 21, 2010, 01:53:14 PM
And now LeachiM NoskcaJ have had youtube remove the video I uploaded that increased the speed of the original video. Yet this video has repeatedly been uploaded to other channels on youtube.

This also means that LeachiM NoskcaJ owns the copryright and Andromeda is getting the videos either from him or off of his channel.

So if you agree with them, you can upload the video, if you show they are manipulating the video, you must remove it and receive a warning.  IT IS NOT MICHAEL!

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Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 21, 2010, 03:53:40 PM
Quote from: "Natali"
"cris July 20th, 2010 11:39 pm ET
Oh my goodness now they posted more and made a new video mix out of it! I should never have posted this hello blog clip..it's becoming viral! My friendly gesture has become a bombshell...I'm just cris!!"

MediaHypeAgain
http://twitter.com/MediaHypeAgain

Btw... It's me in the Leachim video...     22 minutes ago  via web  

Just thought i'd let you know that...     8 minutes ago  via web
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Red_Rose on July 22, 2010, 04:26:32 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Natali"
"cris July 20th, 2010 11:39 pm ET
Oh my goodness now they posted more and made a new video mix out of it! I should never have posted this hello blog clip..it's becoming viral! My friendly gesture has become a bombshell...I'm just cris!!"

MediaHypeAgain
http://twitter.com/MediaHypeAgain

Btw... It's me in the Leachim video...     22 minutes ago  via web  

Just thought i'd let you know that...     8 minutes ago  via web
I saw his tweets... and we have to believe him??!  :?  :roll: :-s
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 22, 2010, 05:49:16 AM
Quote from: "Red_Rose"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Natali"
"cris July 20th, 2010 11:39 pm ET
Oh my goodness now they posted more and made a new video mix out of it! I should never have posted this hello blog clip..it's becoming viral! My friendly gesture has become a bombshell...I'm just cris!!"

MediaHypeAgain
http://twitter.com/MediaHypeAgain

Btw... It's me in the Leachim video...     22 minutes ago  via web  

Just thought i'd let you know that...     8 minutes ago  via web
I saw his tweets... and we have to believe him??!  :?  :roll: :-s

I sure do because I have already investigated this person back in November. It is posted in this thread and I linked him to Leahcim back then too. MHA has been playing with people since last summer and he it appears he is an MJ impersonator named Jonathon Barra. So ya, I think it most likely is him in that video, laughing his ass off at us once again.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 22, 2010, 06:10:36 AM
The guy thinks we are all idiots  :roll: and non intelligent....  :roll: He said that at "maura´s chat", before I could say a word i found myself banned from the room  :roll: looks like they are getting paranoid......something is very very wrong with this guy...not good vibes, not a single one.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 22, 2010, 07:10:44 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
The guy thinks we are all idiots  :roll: and non intelligent....  :roll: He said that at "maura´s chat", before I could say a word i found myself banned from the room  :roll: looks like they are getting paranoid......something is very very wrong with this guy...not good vibes, not a single one.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks that...
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: *Mo* on July 22, 2010, 07:55:25 AM

Just beware...MediaHypeAgain is all over the place under different names, playing mind games and manipulating people for almost a year now...  He showed his true colors 7 months ago already, and I'm glad it's finally being noticed.

His own words:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/MHA_leader.jpg)

That says it all...be careful...
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 22, 2010, 08:33:17 AM
I was awared of fakes and players, but not on this level  :?  Some people can be really evil just for the sake of it. It´s a shame.
I really hurt for those who have been affected and harmed due to mind games. All this is terrible  :(
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 22, 2010, 10:09:09 AM
From mjhd.net

Quote from: "crystals133"
Andromeda is another faker that knows nothing about nothing, She was on Facebook awhile ago when that Barry Shaw
character was trying to fool people saying he was MJ and Andromeda was posing as one of his sisters...   They are all FAKE ...

Quote from: "debi1013"
Crystal, I remember reading this. Thanks for the reminder. :)

and Leahcim's new Hyves account: http://ysterious78.hyves.nl/ or this one http://cliff076.hyves.nl/?ref=sr  :lol:

Quote from: "dawn"
He claims to be the old Leachim House, i've seen he put vids of spanish music ( a band called OREJA DE VAN GOGH or something like that ) and i've also seen comments in spanish made by...i think i also saw a www made in english and spanish.
But thisis starnge cause i used to talk a lot with old leachim and once he mentioned taht he didn't know any other languages( he could have lied at that time )

the profile is private but maybe with luck he accepts you..he has very few friends now
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 22, 2010, 10:37:41 AM
OR...

Quote from: "dawn"
Quote from: "pitusina_18"
Quote from: "dawn"
(thinking-) although i don't think that MediaHypeAgain are the same person i think they must work together.
This month Leachim returned to hyves and he writes in spanish now...just like the youtube account.
Now he changed name to Michael Luciano but when he started the account he was using Leachim House (thinking-)

Can you please put the link of his hyves acc here? i want to see what he writes...i know spanish LOL  (greatt)

Thank u!  (flowers-.)
Here it is http://ysterious78.hyves.nl/ (http://ysterious78.hyves.nl/)  ;)

He claims to be the old Leachim House, i've seen he put vids of spanish music ( a band called OREJA DE VAN GOGH or something like that ) and i've also seen comments in spanish made by...i think i also saw a www made in english and spanish.
But thisis starnge cause i used to talk a lot with old leachim and once he mentioned taht he didn't know any other languages( he could have lied at that time )

the profile is private but maybe with luck he accepts you..he has very few friends now
So if this is Leahcim...

Could this be peterpanpyt?
Quote from: "pitusina_18"
I think we were talking with the wrong guy...  (lmao-)  (lmao-)  (lmao-)  (lmao-)  (lmao-)

have a look at this... http://cliff076.hyves.nl/?ref=sr I think it's the one we're looking for!  (wt)

and by the way Maura is friends with both so either she is part of it too or being used and manipulated...
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: *Mo* on July 22, 2010, 10:54:53 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
and by the way Maura is friends with both so either she is part of it too or being used and manipulated...

Although I normally never comment on persons, in this case I will make an exception.  It's my opinion that Maura is being used and manipulated to the fullest by MHA.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 22, 2010, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
and by the way Maura is friends with both so either she is part of it too or being used and manipulated...

Although I normally never comment on persons, in this case I will make an exception.  It's my opinion that Maura is being used and manipulated to the fullest by MHA.

I've seen she talked with them on twitter so that's weird, i think she needs to wake up on that, she's "teaming up" with some people who are not who they claim to be

What a mad world..
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: CantGetEnoughMJ on July 22, 2010, 04:29:49 PM
Wow, I wish I had as much time on my hands as those people....multiple accounts on twitter, myspace, facebook, hyves, youtube....sheesh!  I barely have enough time to be HERE.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 23, 2010, 03:35:01 PM
Seen the long version?

[youtube:30p5po5t]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4eHOQZrt2A&feature=youtu.be&a[/youtube:30p5po5t]

Pearl Jnr has tweeted about it
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 23, 2010, 04:11:05 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Seen the long version?

[youtube:mcsvg5z0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4eHOQZrt2A&feature=youtu.be&a[/youtube:mcsvg5z0]

Pearl Jnr has tweeted about it


Yup. Please don't tell me you think that's Mike...
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: OneLove on July 24, 2010, 01:03:26 AM
Why would it not be him for sure?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: whisper on July 24, 2010, 01:30:55 AM
[youtube:uysoh1d4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtFEkf3YNyA&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube:uysoh1d4]

I still don't believe it's MJ.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 24, 2010, 01:48:32 AM
Quote from: "whisper"
[youtube:3top3bcm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtFEkf3YNyA&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube:3top3bcm]

I still don't believe it's MJ.


Sorry, I wanted to say a lot, but I decided to just zip it. This makes me laugh so hard and please tell me I'm not the only one...
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Puff on July 24, 2010, 02:29:58 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "whisper"
[youtube:tw10h6tv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtFEkf3YNyA&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube:tw10h6tv]

I still don't believe it's MJ.


Sorry, I wanted to say a lot, but I decided to just zip it. This makes me laugh so hard and please tell me I'm not the only one...

Can I scream....? :?  :?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 24, 2010, 02:37:06 AM
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "whisper"
[youtube:2el1h664]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtFEkf3YNyA&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube:2el1h664]

I still don't believe it's MJ.


Sorry, I wanted to say a lot, but I decided to just zip it. This makes me laugh so hard and please tell me I'm not the only one...

Can I scream....? :?  :?

Sure, let me get my ear plugs  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ForstAMoon on July 24, 2010, 02:40:45 AM
I see the doors.. I see the doors... OMG I am scared .... I see the doors :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: whisper on July 24, 2010, 02:41:12 AM
I don't think her video proves anything at all.. She says a lot of stuff but without any confirmation.. And she could have took a video of herself driving there instead of that pic of that door she flashed  :? .. But again that wouldn't have prove anything either, would it?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: *Mo* on July 24, 2010, 03:01:32 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "whisper"
[youtube:aev3vqhr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtFEkf3YNyA&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube:aev3vqhr]

I still don't believe it's MJ.


Sorry, I wanted to say a lot, but I decided to just zip it. This makes me laugh so hard and please tell me I'm not the only one...

Can I scream....? :?  :?

Sure, let me get my ear plugs  :lol:

(http://s535.photobucket.com/albums/ee352/iconbling/icons/cat/smiley-emoticons/shutup_emoticon.gif)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: robd on July 24, 2010, 04:11:34 AM
Just another advert to try and sell her ebook!?! Doors aren't even the same.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: teine21 on July 24, 2010, 04:40:11 AM
It kind of reminds me of the video of Paris lipsynching to Omer's song. Same kind of quality, black & white etc. Maybe the person near & dear to Randy who sold a video of MJ, could have been one of the nieces or nephews who taped it? idk, just thinking. In the still shot to me, it looks like MJ but the rest of the vid, kind of iffy. What if it ends up being the video Randy is referring to & it IS MJ? I'm going to feel so stupid for doubting it. Until confirmation though, I'm not going to get too excited by it. The coma theory does sound plausible though, like maybe they were trying to kill him with drugs but he survived & is recovering but THEY are supposed to think he's dead & in order to do that, the world has to think he's dead. Could be but who knows.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: superflysister81 on July 24, 2010, 04:43:27 AM
I just wanna say......

(http://i29.tinypic.com/1zoajqw.gif) (http://i29.tinypic.com/1zoajqw.gif)   (http://i29.tinypic.com/1zoajqw.gif)

I'm dead  (http://i29.tinypic.com/1zoajqw.gif)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 24, 2010, 04:48:14 AM
Quote from: "superflysister81"
I just wanna say......

(http://i29.tinypic.com/1zoajqw.gif) (http://i29.tinypic.com/1zoajqw.gif)   (http://i29.tinypic.com/1zoajqw.gif)

I'm dead  (http://i29.tinypic.com/1zoajqw.gif)

I'll call Doc Murray!  :o

 :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 24, 2010, 04:51:40 AM
Err...Pearl..this deffinitely was not one of your best videos... O_O

Was the music supposed to frighten us?

& you can't even see the door in the video  :? , how did she get to that conclusion?
..  I think she's becoming paranoid
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: rasyte on July 24, 2010, 05:04:55 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Seen the long version?

[youtube:2xrpqlcp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4eHOQZrt2A&feature=youtu.be&a[/youtube:2xrpqlcp]

Pearl Jnr has tweeted about it


http://www.youtube.com/user/MJHoaxEvide ... DvsPPIlbLo (http://www.youtube.com/user/MJHoaxEvidence#p/u/0/8DvsPPIlbLo)


video with a comparisons..
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 24, 2010, 06:06:08 AM
People are too gullible...

Security cameras? ORLY?? Strange angles for a security camera. And I advise them to buy new ones, because these seem the be prehistoric, you can't see a thing (how convenient!)

And Andromeda was friends with one of the dancers, he gave her info too. He later admitted on Twitter he was not the real deal...

I only have one word for this whole video drama: BOGUS!

Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Bee Bee on July 24, 2010, 08:52:12 AM
Honestly, I think some of you are going a bit too far, laughing about her like that. Her video's not more ridiculous than some of the stuff people have come up with on here or elsewhere, so I don't really like that level of arrogance. And I don't even like her book.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 24, 2010, 08:55:23 AM
I've been going back & forth on the video, fake, not fake & then finally I was convinced its fake. And then yesterday Randy Jackson tweets:

randyjackson8    I've known about this for a few days. I can't take it anymore it's tearing me apart.
about 14 hours ago via web

randyjackson8    I know everyone wants to know who it is. Im still trying to deal with it in my heart...
about 14 hours ago via web
 
randyjackson8    Someone I considered very close and dear to me sold video of my brother behind my back for profit.
about 15 hours ago via web

randyjackson8    Once again I am so so so disappointed and saddened.
about 15 hours ago via web

my comment: I'm trying to figure out what video Randy is talking about, & then I wonder is he talking about that video??
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: finfin on July 24, 2010, 10:52:11 AM
Does anyone know the outcome regarding the video Maura was shown?  Allegedly it was of Michael reading a document wearing glasses and a clock behind him. The post is now locked explaining about this.
Many thanks. I am finding all this video and informer business very confusing :?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Glinda on July 24, 2010, 11:02:40 AM
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=12698 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=12698) maybe you should read here.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 24, 2010, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "whisper"
[youtube:a3uom754]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtFEkf3YNyA&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube:a3uom754]

I still don't believe it's MJ.


Sorry, I wanted to say a lot, but I decided to just zip it. This makes me laugh so hard and please tell me I'm not the only one...

You are not aloooneeeeee  :lol:  :lol:

Is this a JOKE??
Not serous at all..the music, the woman so cheerfull.... :lol: And the door? The door is not the same?? May be is my mother´s home...her property has those doors as well  :shock:  :o  :o  *on the phone asking my mom if MJ is there...*
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 24, 2010, 11:36:29 AM
Quote from: "libra8"
I've been going back & forth on the video, fake, not fake & then finally I was convinced its fake. And then yesterday Randy Jackson tweets:

randyjackson8    I've known about this for a few days. I can't take it anymore it's tearing me apart.
about 14 hours ago via web

randyjackson8    I know everyone wants to know who it is. Im still trying to deal with it in my heart...
about 14 hours ago via web
 
randyjackson8    Someone I considered very close and dear to me sold video of my brother behind my back for profit.
about 15 hours ago via web

randyjackson8    Once again I am so so so disappointed and saddened.
about 15 hours ago via web

my comment: I'm trying to figure out what video Randy is talking about, & then I wonder is he talking about that video??

Not the whole video, but some parts of the video, the ones that looks like MJ, can be a video taken before by someone, and then sold. Makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 24, 2010, 12:17:48 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "libra8"
I've been going back & forth on the video, fake, not fake & then finally I was convinced its fake. And then yesterday Randy Jackson tweets:

randyjackson8    I've known about this for a few days. I can't take it anymore it's tearing me apart.
about 14 hours ago via web

randyjackson8    I know everyone wants to know who it is. Im still trying to deal with it in my heart...
about 14 hours ago via web
 
randyjackson8    Someone I considered very close and dear to me sold video of my brother behind my back for profit.
about 15 hours ago via web

randyjackson8    Once again I am so so so disappointed and saddened.
about 15 hours ago via web

my comment: I'm trying to figure out what video Randy is talking about, & then I wonder is he talking about that video??

Not the whole video, but some parts of the video, the ones that looks like MJ, can be a video taken before by someone, and then sold. Makes sense to me.
& then Jermaines tweets back to Randy:
jermjackson5    @randyjackson8 you should not be Surprised, this is the world we live in, "Money knows no friend"
about 14 hours ago via web
my comment: maybe Pearl Jr is the friend Randy & Jermaine are tweeting about, mayb she blew LeachimNoskcaj's cover.

LeachimNoskcaj says hes not MJ. He says the video was done in May 2010.

We have Jermaine & Randy CONFIRMING in their tweeting, that the video IS MJ.

So, connect the dots...it adds up, its him in the video & its recent.

Jermaine & Randy jus confirmed thru twitter.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 24, 2010, 12:27:27 PM
:shock:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Puff on July 24, 2010, 12:33:03 PM
Quote from: "libra8"

We have Jermaine & Randy CONFIRMING in their tweeting, that the video IS MJ.

So, connect the dots...it adds up, its him in the video & its recent.

Jermaine & Randy jus confirmed thru twitter

They didn't confirm anything about THAT video.....

Sorry but Randy tweetd this:

Quote
Someone I considered very close and dear to me sold video of my brother behind my back for profit.

What did he prove about THAT video?
Did he talk about THAT video?
Did he say the man is his brother?
I don't think he was talking about THAT video
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Datroot on July 24, 2010, 12:36:10 PM
I don't think he would tweet about a video that is on Youtube - if it is MJ in the video, he would be confirming the hoax on a public site.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 24, 2010, 01:01:50 PM
The video, sold? it is free all over youtube.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 24, 2010, 01:28:58 PM
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "libra8"

We have Jermaine & Randy CONFIRMING in their tweeting, that the video IS MJ.

So, connect the dots...it adds up, its him in the video & its recent.

Jermaine & Randy jus confirmed thru twitter

They didn't confirm anything about THAT video.....

Sorry but Randy tweetd this:

Quote
Someone I considered very close and dear to me sold video of my brother behind my back for profit.

What did he prove about THAT video?
Did he talk about THAT video?
Did he say the man is his brother?
I don't think he was talking about THAT video
You're right he didnt confirm THAT video.

THAT video is the most recent MJ video I know of.

And its a recent video Randys talkin about becuz he hasnt tweeted about it till now.

Its free on youtube...It could have been sold & then put on youtube, becuz it would have to be sold first to even get on youtube.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 24, 2010, 08:58:08 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "libra8"

We have Jermaine & Randy CONFIRMING in their tweeting, that the video IS MJ.

So, connect the dots...it adds up, its him in the video & its recent.

Jermaine & Randy jus confirmed thru twitter

They didn't confirm anything about THAT video.....

Sorry but Randy tweetd this:

Quote
Someone I considered very close and dear to me sold video of my brother behind my back for profit.

What did he prove about THAT video?
Did he talk about THAT video?
Did he say the man is his brother?
I don't think he was talking about THAT video
You're right he didnt confirm THAT video.

THAT video is the most recent MJ video I know of.

And its a recent video Randys talkin about becuz he hasnt tweeted about it till now.

Its free on youtube...It could have been sold & then put on youtube, becuz it would have to be sold first to even get on youtube.
There is no profit in putting a video on youtube, it is free and Randy said a video Sold for Profit

The seller would want to make a profitof course.

But so would the Buyer. If this is a video that was sold to the media they get money from advertisements etc.

So if the video was sold to say, TMZ, the more click on their site to watch this video the more profit for them from the advertisers on the site the video is located on.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: SEHF on July 24, 2010, 09:55:18 PM
:o
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: darkchild on July 25, 2010, 12:13:45 AM
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "libra8"
I've been going back & forth on the video, fake, not fake & then finally I was convinced its fake. And then yesterday Randy Jackson tweets:

randyjackson8    I've known about this for a few days. I can't take it anymore it's tearing me apart.
about 14 hours ago via web

randyjackson8    I know everyone wants to know who it is. Im still trying to deal with it in my heart...
about 14 hours ago via web
 
randyjackson8    Someone I considered very close and dear to me sold video of my brother behind my back for profit.
about 15 hours ago via web

randyjackson8    Once again I am so so so disappointed and saddened.
about 15 hours ago via web

my comment: I'm trying to figure out what video Randy is talking about, & then I wonder is he talking about that video??

Not the whole video, but some parts of the video, the ones that looks like MJ, can be a video taken before by someone, and then sold. Makes sense to me.
& then Jermaines tweets back to Randy:
jermjackson5    @randyjackson8 you should not be Surprised, this is the world we live in, "Money knows no friend"
about 14 hours ago via web
my comment: maybe Pearl Jr is the friend Randy & Jermaine are tweeting about, mayb she blew LeachimNoskcaj's cover.

LeachimNoskcaj says hes not MJ. He says the video was done in May 2010.

We have Jermaine & Randy CONFIRMING in their tweeting, that the video IS MJ.

So, connect the dots...it adds up, its him in the video & its recent.

Jermaine & Randy jus confirmed thru twitter.

Are you saying that Jermaine and Randy are confirming via twitter that this video is MJ?  If it is true! I am truly speechless, but I am not shocked.  I just want MJ to be safe, and to come home in his own time.  Daddy, I love you, and I pray for my heavenly Father to protect you and to cover you in His Love daily.  xxxxxx
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: msteetee34 on July 25, 2010, 01:58:34 AM
I saw the long version of this video that someone posted on here in a different thread.  The video has been looped to show the same footage over and over.  I believe there is a possibility of that being MJ on this video due to the still photo.  It's harder to tell when watching the actual video.  However at this point I believe anything could happen regarding MJ.  I think it's odd that Randy just happens to tweet about a video after this one is released on Youtube.  You never know someone with this footage could have sold it to someone and then the person could have put it on Youtube.  I don't think it should be ruled out that it could be MJ even though some may disagree.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 25, 2010, 02:28:05 AM
Quote from: "darkchild"
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "libra8"
I've been going back & forth on the video, fake, not fake & then finally I was convinced its fake. And then yesterday Randy Jackson tweets:

randyjackson8    I've known about this for a few days. I can't take it anymore it's tearing me apart.
about 14 hours ago via web

randyjackson8    I know everyone wants to know who it is. Im still trying to deal with it in my heart...
about 14 hours ago via web
 
randyjackson8    Someone I considered very close and dear to me sold video of my brother behind my back for profit.
about 15 hours ago via web

randyjackson8    Once again I am so so so disappointed and saddened.
about 15 hours ago via web

my comment: I'm trying to figure out what video Randy is talking about, & then I wonder is he talking about that video??

Not the whole video, but some parts of the video, the ones that looks like MJ, can be a video taken before by someone, and then sold. Makes sense to me.
& then Jermaines tweets back to Randy:
jermjackson5    @randyjackson8 you should not be Surprised, this is the world we live in, "Money knows no friend"
about 14 hours ago via web
my comment: maybe Pearl Jr is the friend Randy & Jermaine are tweeting about, mayb she blew LeachimNoskcaj's cover.

LeachimNoskcaj says hes not MJ. He says the video was done in May 2010.

We have Jermaine & Randy CONFIRMING in their tweeting, that the video IS MJ.

So, connect the dots...it adds up, its him in the video & its recent.

Jermaine & Randy jus confirmed thru twitter.

Are you saying that Jermaine and Randy are confirming via twitter that this video is MJ?  If it is true! I am truly speechless, but I am not shocked.  I just want MJ to be safe, and to come home in his own time.  Daddy, I love you, and I pray for my heavenly Father to protect you and to cover you in His Love daily.  xxxxxx

They said the person Randy gave the video to sold it so I very much doubt this is the video they are talking about
No one confirmed anything, they totally ignored our questions, as usual..
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Glinda on July 25, 2010, 04:55:13 AM
When there are no questions answered you have to find the answers yourself.

They cannot say anything straight out, the media is watching, fans are watching..
even friends and so called friends are watching.
Difficult, but im happy with the answers they give.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 07:34:06 AM
the door
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 08:45:03 AM
Im still really confused over this.  It looks like MJ to me, yet everyone says its fake.  Im sorry that i still dont understand

(http://img105.herosh.com/2010/07/21/945976467.gif)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Glinda on July 25, 2010, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
the door


Still means nothing, anyone can have doors like that.

That video reminds me of chewinggum mj..
[youtube:1q21qxxk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtHvJHoxRW0[/youtube:1q21qxxk]

What i also dont understand, what is the purpose of dancing with your face hidden and sunglasses and all :roll:
I mean if you are at home no need to hide your face right?

'The camera that is used is crappy quality, i think its a web-cam.
I think its fake, but i could be wrong about it too.
The truth will come out anyway.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: suspicious mind on July 25, 2010, 08:54:47 AM
maybe we have seen the door before. a video, during the jackson reality show.somewhere.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 08:57:11 AM
What about this:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 08:58:44 AM
Quote from: "Glinda"

What i also dont understand, what is the purpose of dancing with your face hidden and sunglasses and all :roll:
I mean if you are at home no need to hide your face right?

.

But MJ did that all the time.. In TII he has sunglasses on a lot..  and even if you go as far back as the BAD rehearsals, he wears sunglasses.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Victor on July 25, 2010, 09:05:57 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "Glinda"

What i also dont understand, what is the purpose of dancing with your face hidden and sunglasses and all :roll:
I mean if you are at home no need to hide your face right?

.

But MJ did that all the time.. In TII he has sunglasses on a lot..  and even if you go as far back as the BAD rehearsals, he wears sunglasses.
But why wear sunglasses inside ... hahahah xD
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 09:12:22 AM
Quote from: "Victor"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "Glinda"

What i also dont understand, what is the purpose of dancing with your face hidden and sunglasses and all :roll:
I mean if you are at home no need to hide your face right?

.

But MJ did that all the time.. In TII he has sunglasses on a lot..  and even if you go as far back as the BAD rehearsals, he wears sunglasses.
But why wear sunglasses inside ... hahahah xD

Michael wore sunglasses inside all the time.  I dont know why.. you would have to ask him.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 09:14:16 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
From the other forum:

Quote from: "squall"
*Bingoooo .....I think we have a winner here !!! 8-)

(http://www.michaeljackson.com/sites/mjackson/files/imagecache/preview/photos/942177298_6_rAEb.jpeg)
(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/15/38/19/26/mj10.jpg)

photoshoped ... next please !!!


I dont buy that this proves its photoshopped...    if someone took a photograph of my face at the same angle, its going to look the same... as my face doesnt change.  If anything, the fact the photos match up gives more proof that this IS Michael Jackson.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Victor on July 25, 2010, 09:30:23 AM
one thing that annoy me is that some people says it was "recorded" on a security camera , but IT LOOKS like a regular video camera on a tripod , dont you think :?:  :?:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 25, 2010, 09:31:40 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
From the other forum:

Quote from: "squall"
*Bingoooo .....I think we have a winner here !!! 8-)

(http://www.michaeljackson.com/sites/mjackson/files/imagecache/preview/photos/942177298_6_rAEb.jpeg)
(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/15/38/19/26/mj10.jpg)

photoshoped ... next please !!!


I dont buy that this proves its photoshopped...    if someone took a photograph of my face at the same angle, its going to look the same... as my face doesnt change.  If anything, the fact the photos match up gives more proof that this IS Michael Jackson.
The photos arent even the same, in one photo his mouth is open & the other mouth is closed, nose angle is different etc. Anyways comparing these 2 photos convinces me even more tht the black & white photo IS him becuz I can see the resemblance to the colored MJ photo..So, comparing these two photos doesnt debunk anything. I lightened the photo...you can even see the pixels...its not photoshopped.
BTW notice the longer fingernails? MJ wears his nails longer, check out his nails in TII.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/45662-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Glinda on July 25, 2010, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
From the other forum:

Quote from: "squall"
*Bingoooo .....I think we have a winner here !!! 8-)

(http://www.michaeljackson.com/sites/mjackson/files/imagecache/preview/photos/942177298_6_rAEb.jpeg)
(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/15/38/19/26/mj10.jpg)

photoshoped ... next please !!!


I dont buy that this proves its photoshopped...    if someone took a photograph of my face at the same angle, its going to look the same... as my face doesnt change.  If anything, the fact the photos match up gives more proof that this IS Michael Jackson.
The photos arent even the same, in one photo his mouth is open & the other mouth is closed, nose angle is different etc. Anyways comparing these 2 photos convinces me even more tht the black & white photo IS him becuz I can see the resemblance to the colored MJ photo..So, comparing these two photos doesnt debunk anything. I lightened the photo...you can even see the pixels...its not photoshopped.
BTW notice the longer fingernails? MJ wears his nails longer, check out his nails in TII.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/45662-2.jpg)


Sorry but I dont see nails.. Maybe my eyes are getting bad ..
( glasses on) :geek:

No does not work.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 25, 2010, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: "libra8"
I lightened the photo...you can even see the pixels...its not photoshopped.
BTW notice the longer fingernails? MJ wears his nails longer, check out his nails in TII. [/color]
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/45662-2.jpg)

This photo you have posted has been photoshopped itself :lol:

Notice the hand?
Whatever the person in it, was originally holding, has been removed through photographic manipulation and editing software.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 12:09:27 PM
The hand hasnt been photoshopped..  here is another still with the same hand in a slightly different position
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 25, 2010, 12:51:03 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
The hand hasnt been photoshopped..  here is another still with the same hand in a slightly different position
I lightened the photo, nope, no photoshop.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/mj12-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 12:55:31 PM
Also.. the bit where he is holding a can.. is that a Coke can????
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 25, 2010, 01:10:03 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Also.. the bit where he is holding a can.. is that a Coke can????
IDK if its Coke can...is there a still of that?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Also.. the bit where he is holding a can.. is that a Coke can????
IDK if its Coke can...is there a still of that?

I will try and get one.

Also.. i found these pics of MJ wearing a hoody to compare.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 02:04:38 PM
I made a whole load of screenshots, including the one of him holding a coke can

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f318/MrsPeppers2/mjcoke2.jpg)

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f318/MrsPeppers2/mjcoke.jpg)

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f318/MrsPeppers2/mjx5.jpg)

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f318/MrsPeppers2/mjx4.jpg)

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f318/MrsPeppers2/mjx3.jpg)

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f318/MrsPeppers2/mjx2.jpg)

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f318/MrsPeppers2/mjx1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: angelshadow on July 25, 2010, 02:44:11 PM
I have seen it often and compared .... he looks like Michael!
He also has these gestures with the hands .... as if he had neuro-logical problems!
 
 Thanks for the pictures  ;)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: AnaMarcia on July 25, 2010, 04:03:20 PM
For me is the real Michael, just do not know when and where these images were made. It seems very recent because of its appearance, but can be a test at home?
I know that the main question is: This is it Michael??
Then answer for myself, I guess that a clone wouldn't be as equal and in the video shows  typical movements that only he does.
Sorry, its just my opinion.
All I wanted was to have concrete answers.

Ohh, Michael ... only you can help us.

I love you so much :oops:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 25, 2010, 04:16:56 PM
Thank you for posting the stills.

What I find interesting, MJ always wears his armband on the right arm. In this still his armband is on the left arm & these seem to be mirror images. I'm thinking, in this video hes dancing in front of a mirror & what we see in the video is mirror image. When I go to lighten the photo I dont get pixel image, so its possible this video is him dancing facing a mirror which would explain the armband being on left arm in video.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/mjx5-1.jpg)

compared to this photo, when I lighten the still I get a pixel image plus the armband is on his right arm, this photo wouldnt be a mirror image.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/mj12-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: tekamjforever on July 25, 2010, 04:48:50 PM
libra8, the image reflected in the mirror, as it would to do the filming, since Mike (if) is against the wall? Sorry if I'm ignorant on the question. :?  :?:  :oops:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: mumof3 on July 25, 2010, 05:22:03 PM
Long arms long slender fingers it looks like michael to me
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 25, 2010, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: "tekamjforever"
libra8, the image reflected in the mirror, as it would to do the filming, since Mike (if) is against the wall? Sorry if I'm ignorant on the question. :?  :?:  :oops:
If this is mirror image, hes not really against a wall, the wall would jus be the background behind him, this is illusion, its magic. so in the video, when it shows what looks like him talking to somebody, hes actually talking to himself, or the image in the mirror.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 06:01:53 PM
Im confused with this video and am 50/50 to it being real or a fake.  Randys tweet has swayed me more into thinking that its real as no other video has surfaced.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: OneLove on July 25, 2010, 06:10:18 PM
It looks like Michael, and i believe it is him. Who found this video in the first place?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: OneLove on July 25, 2010, 06:21:50 PM
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim made by LeahciM NoskcaJ? AHH! haha
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: foreye on July 25, 2010, 06:23:23 PM
hmm, i believe its Michael but this is not a recent video, to me this video looks like it was recorded a few years ago.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 25, 2010, 06:26:28 PM
Quote from: "OneLove"
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim made by LeahciM NoskcaJ? AHH! haha

LeahciM NoskcaJ should be the one selling the video then?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 25, 2010, 06:26:53 PM
Quote from: "OneLove"
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim made by LeahciM NoskcaJ? AHH! haha
its on youtube
[youtube:250yb805]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_AC0JPT3PA[/youtube:250yb805]
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: foreye on July 25, 2010, 06:32:46 PM
I just change my mind, i think its a double
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: OneLove on July 25, 2010, 06:39:50 PM
Not that this means anything but, it probably is a mirror image. He uses his right hand mostly. He must be practicing human nature.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/9iedr8.jpg)

(http://i28.tinypic.com/lfs6h.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: tekamjforever on July 25, 2010, 06:42:19 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "tekamjforever"
libra8, the image reflected in the mirror, as it would to do the filming, since Mike (if) is against the wall? Sorry if I'm ignorant on the question. :?  :?:  :oops:
If this is mirror image, hes not really against a wall, the wall would jus be the background behind him, this is illusion, its magic. so in the video, when it shows what looks like him talking to somebody, hes actually talking to himself, or the image in the mirror.

Ok, but in your opinion is more likely that the film is a montage / false or that it seems?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: foreye on July 25, 2010, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: "OneLove"
Not that this means anything but, it probably is a mirror image. He uses his right hand mostly. He must be practicing human nature.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/9iedr8.jpg)

(http://i28.tinypic.com/lfs6h.jpg)
You know what, i think was a double. I believe this guy was  practicing how to dance like Michael Jackson. Yup, this exactly what it looks like he practicing Michale's motive. This video was definitely recorded during the TII :shock:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: tekamjforever on July 25, 2010, 06:52:55 PM
Quote from: "OneLove"
Not that this means anything but, it probably is a mirror image. He uses his right hand mostly. He must be practicing human nature.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/9iedr8.jpg)

(http://i28.tinypic.com/lfs6h.jpg)

Oh, makes much sense ... 8-)
[youtube:2sb5zgia]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsVYuGwAuR0[/youtube:2sb5zgia]
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: OneLove on July 25, 2010, 06:56:33 PM
That hand motion is really hard to master. bahah. so good impersonator.

or the real Michael just doin his thing.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 25, 2010, 06:58:30 PM
Does anyone recognise the branding on the clothing?

There is a motive on the hooded top and on the shirt underneath.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: OneLove on July 25, 2010, 07:07:42 PM
The hoodie looks like Zoo York. The shirt looks similar to Ed Hardy. Or the one he wore to Christians party. haha
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 25, 2010, 07:10:07 PM
Quote from: "tekamjforever"
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "tekamjforever"
libra8, the image reflected in the mirror, as it would to do the filming, since Mike (if) is against the wall? Sorry if I'm ignorant on the question. :?  :?:  :oops:
If this is mirror image, hes not really against a wall, the wall would jus be the background behind him, this is illusion, its magic. so in the video, when it shows what looks like him talking to somebody, hes actually talking to himself, or the image in the mirror.

Ok, but in your opinion is more likely that the film is a montage / false or that it seems?
IMO the the film is a montag of spliced segments of video put together to create the video. IMO it looks amateurish & nonprofessional, but in reality its professionally edited & produced. IMO its made to look like a nonimportant video when in reality its a very important video. BTW if you compare his height to the door, hes not short as some have said.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: foreye on July 25, 2010, 07:11:09 PM
Quote from: "OneLove"
That hand motion is really hard to master. bahah. so good impersonator.

or the real Michael just doin his thing.
yup, definitely a impersonator :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 25, 2010, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: "OneLove"
That hand motion is really hard to master. bahah. so good impersonator.

or the real Michael just doin his thing.
I've seen allot of impersonators & havent found one tht looks this much like him. The moves can look simple & sloppy but they are hard to master, & it looks like hes mastering them quite well.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: foreye on July 25, 2010, 07:16:45 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "OneLove"
That hand motion is really hard to master. bahah. so good impersonator.

or the real Michael just doin his thing.
I've seen allot of impersonators & havent found one tht looks this much like him. The moves can look simple & sloppy but they are hard to master, & it looks like hes mastering them quite well.

That's why he's practicing, to get it right :lol: And I believe there are doubles that looks like him, we're looking at one right now. There are a few doubles in TII obviously
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: tekamjforever on July 25, 2010, 07:32:32 PM
Quote from: "OneLove"
Not that this means anything but, it probably is a mirror image. He uses his right hand mostly. He must be practicing human nature.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/9iedr8.jpg)

[youtube:3d37m437]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_AC0JPT3PA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:3d37m437]

(http://i28.tinypic.com/lfs6h.jpg)

[youtube:3d37m437]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsVYuGwAuR0[/youtube:3d37m437]

I think you managed to unravel this mystery, definitely an imitator. ;)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: OneLove on July 25, 2010, 07:35:42 PM
It seems more like a mannerism over just impersonating him. Most impersonators never think of the hand movements. Just the leg and feet movements.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 25, 2010, 09:54:44 PM
Quote from: "tekamjforever"
Quote from: "OneLove"
Not that this means anything but, it probably is a mirror image. He uses his right hand mostly. He must be practicing human nature.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/9iedr8.jpg)

[youtube:1lysmvqr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_AC0JPT3PA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1lysmvqr]

(http://i28.tinypic.com/lfs6h.jpg)

[youtube:1lysmvqr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsVYuGwAuR0[/youtube:1lysmvqr]

I think you managed to unravel this mystery, definitely an imitator. ;)
Most definitely imitator   ;)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: OneLove on July 25, 2010, 09:58:10 PM
I keep getting vibes that it is him. Something about him, it's like he is now. Not completely the entertainer we see him as, but as someone struggling to dance. If this turns out to be a double, don't laugh at me. haha
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 25, 2010, 11:10:48 PM
Quote from: "OneLove"
I keep getting vibes that it is him. Something about him, it's like he is now. Not completely the entertainer we see him as, but as someone struggling to dance. If this turns out to be a double, don't laugh at me. haha


Michael Jackson struggling to dance?? Why? Because he's getting old? No, he's NOT OLD (although some think 50 is almost dead), Too long ago? No I think he even does dance moves in his sleep, and he has been dancing his whole life, it's something automatic. If the guy can't dance, it's not MJ, period. As long as the man can move his legs, you will be able to see it's him, even if you don't see a face going with it.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 26, 2010, 12:46:16 AM
Quote from: "tekamjforever"
Quote from: "OneLove"
Not that this means anything but, it probably is a mirror image. He uses his right hand mostly. He must be practicing human nature.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/9iedr8.jpg)

[youtube:3j01cir6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_AC0JPT3PA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:3j01cir6]

(http://i28.tinypic.com/lfs6h.jpg)

[youtube:3j01cir6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsVYuGwAuR0[/youtube:3j01cir6]

I think you managed to unravel this mystery, definitely an imitator. ;)

In the description it says the images are mirrored although I don't buy this.
Deffinitely someone is having a great time posing as Michael
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: heisinme09 on July 26, 2010, 01:53:03 AM
Quote from: "OneLove"
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim made by LeahciM NoskcaJ? AHH! haha


Just in case this slipped by anyone.....LeahciM NoskcaJ is Michael Jackson, spelled backwards....I didn't notice this at first, so thought others may have done the same.

Also if we can see a better shot of that can....and it's a Coke can?....I think we can bank on one of two things:

1) It is Michael and this is definitely a Hoax Clue, or
2) Some sick puppy out there is really smart.

Peace!
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 26, 2010, 08:00:31 AM
From twitter

HoudinisGhost  
Appears the LeachimNoskcaj channel on YouTube got suspended. Interesting.
39 minutes ago via web

HoudinisGhost  
"This video is no longer available due to copyright claim by MJDPartners" - That's what it says when you try to view the first video.
15 minutes ago via web

HoudinisGhost  
This is who is behind LeachimNoskcaj's channel getting suspended ----> http://www.youtube.com/MJDpartners (http://www.youtube.com/MJDpartners)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: foreye on July 26, 2010, 08:04:13 AM
whose MJDPartners?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 26, 2010, 08:27:04 AM
Quote from: "foreye"
whose MJDPartners?
Assuming the video is fake with MJ imitator dancing WHY would MJDProductions have concerns & suspend leahcim channel? I mean there are lots of MJ impersonators on youtube...why is leahcim suspended? & others are not?

IMO the reason to suspend would be if its real video of MJ, used without written permission & consent.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 26, 2010, 08:37:45 AM
Quote from: "heisinme09"
Quote from: "OneLove"
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim made by LeahciM NoskcaJ? AHH! haha


Just in case this slipped by anyone.....LeahciM NoskcaJ is Michael Jackson, spelled backwards....I didn't notice this at first, so thought others may have done the same.

Also if we can see a better shot of that can....and it's a Coke can?....I think we can bank on one of two things:

1) It is Michael and this is definitely a Hoax Clue, or
2) Some sick puppy out there is really smart.

Peace!
Yes LeahciM NoskcaJ is mirror image of Michael Jackson, just like the video seems to be shot in front of a mirror becuz his armband appears on the left arm, when in reality MJ always wears armband on right arm, so I figure the video is him dancing/practicing in front of wall mirror, & when you see, what looks like him talking to someone in the video, in reality hes talkin to the man in the mirror, himself.

In one of LeahciM NoskcaJ's video comments, he did say hes holding Coke can.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Hazzely on July 26, 2010, 01:40:31 PM
The video is up again..duh

-3h ago-

http://www.youtube.com/user/LeahciMNosk ... =autoshare (http://www.youtube.com/user/LeahciMNoskcaJ?feature=autoshare)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sandy on July 26, 2010, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: "foreye"
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "OneLove"
That hand motion is really hard to master. bahah. so good impersonator.

or the real Michael just doin his thing.
I've seen allot of impersonators & havent found one tht looks this much like him. The moves can look simple & sloppy but they are hard to master, & it looks like hes mastering them quite well.

That's why he's practicing, to get it right :lol: And I believe there are doubles that looks like him, we're looking at one right now. There are a few doubles in TII obviously

No. It's just impossible that there are doubles which look exactly like Michael.
And there are NO doubles in TII. Please stop with it. I can't read it anymore. I can assure you, that the whole time there is the real Michael on stage in TII. The way he dance, sings, acts and talks... It's obvious.
I'm a fan for about 18 years now. I can distinguish the real Michael from a double.

Someone here in this forum has even an impersonator in his/her sig. :?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 26, 2010, 02:35:40 PM
Quote from: "Sandy"
And there are NO doubles in TII. Please stop with it. I can't read it anymore. I can assure you, that the whole time there is the real Michael on stage in TII. The way he dance, sings, acts and talks... It's obvious.
I'm a fan for about 18 years now. I can distinguish the real Michael from a double.

Sure?

Quote from: "Sandy"
Someone here in this forum has even an impersonator in his/her sig. :?

Not just one  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 26, 2010, 02:39:56 PM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
The video is up again..duh

-3h ago-

http://www.youtube.com/user/LeahciMNosk ... =autoshare (http://www.youtube.com/user/LeahciMNoskcaJ?feature=autoshare)

I spoke with MJDPartners on youtube (through a message). They are aware that the video has been re-uploaded and have filed another copyright claim.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sandy on July 26, 2010, 02:47:11 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
And there are NO doubles in TII. Please stop with it. I can't read it anymore. I can assure you, that the whole time there is the real Michael on stage in TII. The way he dance, sings, acts and talks... It's obvious.
I'm a fan for about 18 years now. I can distinguish the real Michael from a double.

Sure?

Quote from: "Sandy"
Someone here in this forum has even an impersonator in his/her sig. :?

Not just one  :lol:


1. Yes. I am sure. You aren't even a fan. I'm right?

2. I's a sig with 4 pics. And there is a person in the WBSS outfit. This is an impersonator.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: tekamjforever on July 26, 2010, 02:54:28 PM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "tekamjforever"
Quote from: "OneLove"
Not that this means anything but, it probably is a mirror image. He uses his right hand mostly. He must be practicing human nature.

[youtube:2jt2tpnn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_AC0JPT3PA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:2jt2tpnn]

[youtube:2jt2tpnn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsVYuGwAuR0[/youtube:2jt2tpnn]

I think you managed to unravel this mystery, definitely an imitator. ;)

In the description it says the images are mirrored although I don't buy this.
Deffinitely someone is having a great time posing as Michael

:?  Anyway disturbing because at the same time as the face and hands look like Mike, the movements (mannerisms) are exagerados. imo :roll:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 26, 2010, 03:01:18 PM
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
And there are NO doubles in TII. Please stop with it. I can't read it anymore. I can assure you, that the whole time there is the real Michael on stage in TII. The way he dance, sings, acts and talks... It's obvious.
I'm a fan for about 18 years now. I can distinguish the real Michael from a double.

Sure?

Quote from: "Sandy"
Someone here in this forum has even an impersonator in his/her sig. :?

Not just one  :lol:


1. Yes. I am sure. You aren't even a fan. I'm right?

2. I's a sig with 4 pics. And there is a person in the WBSS outfit. This is an impersonator.

Not being a fan doesn't mean I have trouble seeing with my eyes that TII is FULL of doubles. It also doesn't mean I never watched his performances or other stuff. Maybe you should google the meaning of 'fan'.

Have you ever seen Mike's shoulders? They are broad. Now look at some MJ's in TII... The man is capable of a lot, but not in changing bodyshape.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: *Mo* on July 26, 2010, 03:18:46 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
And there are NO doubles in TII. Please stop with it. I can't read it anymore. I can assure you, that the whole time there is the real Michael on stage in TII. The way he dance, sings, acts and talks... It's obvious.
I'm a fan for about 18 years now. I can distinguish the real Michael from a double.

Sure?

Quote from: "Sandy"
Someone here in this forum has even an impersonator in his/her sig. :?

Not just one  :lol:


1. Yes. I am sure. You aren't even a fan. I'm right?

2. I's a sig with 4 pics. And there is a person in the WBSS outfit. This is an impersonator.

Not being a fan doesn't mean I have trouble seeing with my eyes that TII is FULL of doubles. It also doesn't mean I never watched his performances or other stuff. Maybe you should google the meaning of 'fan'.

Have you ever seen Mike's shoulders? They are broad. Now look at some MJ's in TII... The man is capable of a lot, but not in changing bodyshape.

It seems that not being a fan is still considered a capital crime...

Next to the changing body shape, there's a remarkable difference in movements.  Some can dance, some really can't.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sandy on July 26, 2010, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
And there are NO doubles in TII. Please stop with it. I can't read it anymore. I can assure you, that the whole time there is the real Michael on stage in TII. The way he dance, sings, acts and talks... It's obvious.
I'm a fan for about 18 years now. I can distinguish the real Michael from a double.

Sure?

Quote from: "Sandy"
Someone here in this forum has even an impersonator in his/her sig. :?

Not just one  :lol:


1. Yes. I am sure. You aren't even a fan. I'm right?

2. I's a sig with 4 pics. And there is a person in the WBSS outfit. This is an impersonator.

Not being a fan doesn't mean I have trouble seeing with my eyes that TII is FULL of doubles. It also doesn't mean I never watched his performances or other stuff. Maybe you should google the meaning of 'fan'.

Have you ever seen Mike's shoulders? They are broad. Now look at some MJ's in TII... The man is capable of a lot, but not in changing bodyshape.

Ok. So you are in the opinion, that TII is full of doubles. So tell me: Why are these so-called doubles looking like Michael? Dancing, singing, talking and acting like him. :?
And Michael lost a lot of weight during the rehearsals. Thats why he looks in some scenes thinner than in others.

I don't have to google the meaning of fan.
I know that I am a real fan. You have no idea I how much I had suffered with Michael during the time of the two malicious allegations.
You have no idea how much I defended and supported him. Michael means a lot to me. I love him from the bottom of my heart.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 26, 2010, 03:38:31 PM
MJDPartners uploaded a video.

[youtube:115it94x]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTolyqo2CSw[/youtube:115it94x]

Michael in London
From: MJDPartners | 26 July 2010 | 8 views
Description:   Some content was sold to ITN.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: *Mo* on July 26, 2010, 03:42:32 PM
Quote from: "Sandy"
And Michael lost a lot of weight during the rehearsals. Thats why he looks in some scenes thinner than in others.

Oh really..?  I thought it was recorded in two days...  Magical Mike...loosing that much weight in just 2 days, I'm sure Weight Watchers wants to know his secret!
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sandy on July 26, 2010, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
And there are NO doubles in TII. Please stop with it. I can't read it anymore. I can assure you, that the whole time there is the real Michael on stage in TII. The way he dance, sings, acts and talks... It's obvious.
I'm a fan for about 18 years now. I can distinguish the real Michael from a double.

Sure?

Quote from: "Sandy"
Someone here in this forum has even an impersonator in his/her sig. :?

Not just one  :lol:


1. Yes. I am sure. You aren't even a fan. I'm right?

2. I's a sig with 4 pics. And there is a person in the WBSS outfit. This is an impersonator.

Not being a fan doesn't mean I have trouble seeing with my eyes that TII is FULL of doubles. It also doesn't mean I never watched his performances or other stuff. Maybe you should google the meaning of 'fan'.

Have you ever seen Mike's shoulders? They are broad. Now look at some MJ's in TII... The man is capable of a lot, but not in changing bodyshape.

It seems that not being a fan is still considered a capital crime...

Next to the changing body shape, there's a remarkable difference in movements.  Some can dance, some really can't.

No. It's not a crime. But I think you should one or two times believe what the long time fans are saying.
Sorry, but I think we should know it better.

And these were just rehearsals. He wanna reserve his energy for the shows. He himself said it a few times. He knew, that he can dance and that he master the performances.


Please excuse my terrible english. 8-)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sandy on July 26, 2010, 03:49:58 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Sandy"
And Michael lost a lot of weight during the rehearsals. Thats why he looks in some scenes thinner than in others.

Oh really..?  I thought it was recorded in two days...  Magical Mike...loosing that much weight in just 2 days, I'm sure Weight Watchers wants to know his secret!

I can't believe that TII was recorded in only two days. He rehearsed for mounth...
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: *Mo* on July 26, 2010, 03:51:56 PM
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
It seems that not being a fan is still considered a capital crime...

Next to the changing body shape, there's a remarkable difference in movements.  Some can dance, some really can't.

No. It's not a crime. But I think you should one or two times believe what the long time fans are saying.
Sorry, but I think we should know it better.

I think it's easier to see for non fans than for fans.  Non fans don't have that emotional connection, and therefor it's easier so see and accept things which fans might not even want to see.

I'll leave it right here, time will tell.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 26, 2010, 03:52:07 PM
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
And there are NO doubles in TII. Please stop with it. I can't read it anymore. I can assure you, that the whole time there is the real Michael on stage in TII. The way he dance, sings, acts and talks... It's obvious.
I'm a fan for about 18 years now. I can distinguish the real Michael from a double.

Sure?

Quote from: "Sandy"
Someone here in this forum has even an impersonator in his/her sig. :?

Not just one  :lol:


1. Yes. I am sure. You aren't even a fan. I'm right?

2. I's a sig with 4 pics. And there is a person in the WBSS outfit. This is an impersonator.

Not being a fan doesn't mean I have trouble seeing with my eyes that TII is FULL of doubles. It also doesn't mean I never watched his performances or other stuff. Maybe you should google the meaning of 'fan'.

Have you ever seen Mike's shoulders? They are broad. Now look at some MJ's in TII... The man is capable of a lot, but not in changing bodyshape.

Ok. So you are in the opinion, that TII is full of doubles. So tell me: Why are these so-called doubles looking like Michael? Dancing, singing, talking and acting like him. :?
And Michael lost a lot of weight during the rehearsals. Thats why he looks in some scenes thinner than in others.

I don't have to google the meaning of fan.
I know that I am a real fan. You have no idea I how much I had suffered with Michael during the time of the two malicious allegations.
You have no idea how much I defended and supported him. Michael means a lot to me. I love him from the bottom of my heart.


I explained it MANY times, I am not going there again. Dome do not look exactly like him and some certainly can't dance. Time will tell all...
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 26, 2010, 03:53:18 PM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
MJD Partners = Michael Jackson Death Partners, or what?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: foreye on July 26, 2010, 03:58:19 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Ninanina"
MJD Partners = Michael Jackson Death Partners, or what?
:lol:  :lol:

i wouder why he or she uploaded that video?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: tekamjforever on July 26, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
And there are NO doubles in TII. Please stop with it. I can't read it anymore. I can assure you, that the whole time there is the real Michael on stage in TII. The way he dance, sings, acts and talks... It's obvious.
I'm a fan for about 18 years now. I can distinguish the real Michael from a double.

Sure?

Quote from: "Sandy"
Someone here in this forum has even an impersonator in his/her sig. :?

Not just one  :lol:


1. Yes. I am sure. You aren't even a fan. I'm right?

2. I's a sig with 4 pics. And there is a person in the WBSS outfit. This is an impersonator.

Not being a fan doesn't mean I have trouble seeing with my eyes that TII is FULL of doubles. It also doesn't mean I never watched his performances or other stuff. Maybe you should google the meaning of 'fan'.

Have you ever seen Mike's shoulders? They are broad. Now look at some MJ's in TII... The man is capable of a lot, but not in changing bodyshape.

Ok. So you are in the opinion, that TII is full of doubles. So tell me: Why are these so-called doubles looking like Michael? Dancing, singing, talking and acting like him. :?
And Michael lost a lot of weight during the rehearsals. Thats why he looks in some scenes thinner than in others.

I don't have to google the meaning of fan.
I know that I am a real fan. You have no idea I how much I had suffered with Michael during the time of the two malicious allegations.
You have no idea how much I defended and supported him. Michael means a lot to me. I love him from the bottom of my heart.

:cry: Sandy, I just want to tell you how much your words make me cry now ... Be sure you're not alone, and together we will get there by Michael! ;)  Kisses. :)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 26, 2010, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
It seems that not being a fan is still considered a capital crime...

Next to the changing body shape, there's a remarkable difference in movements.  Some can dance, some really can't.

No. It's not a crime. But I think you should one or two times believe what the long time fans are saying.
Sorry, but I think we should know it better.

I think it's easier to see for non fans than for fans.  Non fans don't have that emotional connection, and therefor it's easier so see and accept things which fans might not even want to see.

I'll leave it right here, time will tell.

Well I am a non-fan and I don't think doubles were used in TII beyond place markers and stunts. I believe all performances were solely Michael.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sandy on July 26, 2010, 04:35:13 PM
@ tekamjforever. Thank you so much. OMG I make you cry. That to know makes me cry. *big hug*

And to Mo and Souza: Yes. Time will tell. ;)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: mumof3 on July 26, 2010, 04:36:28 PM
I used to think doubles theory was unbelievable but if you watch the bashit documentory I am so sure there is more than one michael in the programme I know you can lose weight change hair etc but I feel the real michael was so strong there and putting his thoughts across so well then there was a more fragile michael fragile in looks and feelings even I was confused about the difference in him I feel the real michael is in my sig picture he was very strong at that part confused I know I am
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 26, 2010, 04:38:30 PM
Quote from: "mumof3"
I used to think doubles theory was unbelievable but if you watch the bashit documentory I am so sure there is more than one michael in the programme I know you can lose weight change hair etc but I feel the real michael was so strong there and putting his thoughts across so well then there was a more fragile michael fragile in looks and feelings even I was confused about the difference in him I feel the real michael is in my sig picture he was very strong at that part confused I know I am


I think that's Mike in your avater as well.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: foreye on July 26, 2010, 04:43:38 PM
Quote from: "mumof3"
I used to think doubles theory was unbelievable but if you watch the bashit documentory I am so sure there is more than one michael in the programme I know you can lose weight change hair etc but I feel the real michael was so strong there and putting his thoughts across so well then there was a more fragile michael fragile in looks and feelings even I was confused about the difference in him I feel the real michael is in my sig picture he was very strong at that part confused I know I am
it was all michael it that doc.
Bashir was fliming michael for 8 months that's why probably look different
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: mumof3 on July 26, 2010, 04:45:45 PM
Thankyou souza I think it is him as well and at that point of the filming he was strong and looked fed up with bashit at other times not strong I feel michael is one step ahead of everybody  I hope so anyway
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: foreye on July 26, 2010, 05:51:58 PM
MSN conversation Leahcim NoskcaJ reveals the truth
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... -no-msn%2F (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmulherpobre.com%2F2010%2F07%2F26%2Fpapo-no-msn%2F)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: PinkTopaz on July 26, 2010, 10:33:39 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sandy"
And there are NO doubles in TII. Please stop with it. I can't read it anymore. I can assure you, that the whole time there is the real Michael on stage in TII. The way he dance, sings, acts and talks... It's obvious.
I'm a fan for about 18 years now. I can distinguish the real Michael from a double.

Sure?

Quote from: "Sandy"
Someone here in this forum has even an impersonator in his/her sig. :?

Not just one  :lol:


1. Yes. I am sure. You aren't even a fan. I'm right?

2. I's a sig with 4 pics. And there is a person in the WBSS outfit. This is an impersonator.

Not being a fan doesn't mean I have trouble seeing with my eyes that TII is FULL of doubles. It also doesn't mean I never watched his performances or other stuff. Maybe you should google the meaning of 'fan'.

Have you ever seen Mike's shoulders? They are broad. Now look at some MJ's in TII... The man is capable of a lot, but not in changing bodyshape.

It seems that not being a fan is still considered a capital crime...

Next to the changing body shape, there's a remarkable difference in movements.  Some can dance, some really can't.
Ah-ha, thank you, Mo and Souza, as those teeny-weeny wittle shoulders on "Sammy" are what I immediately on TII!

Quote from: "mumof3"
I used to think doubles theory was unbelievable but if you watch the bashit documentory I am so sure there is more than one michael in the programme I know you can lose weight change hair etc but I feel the real michael was so strong there and putting his thoughts across so well then there was a more fragile michael fragile in looks and feelings even I was confused about the difference in him I feel the real michael is in my sig picture he was very strong at that part confused I know I am
And yes, MO3, I also agree wholeheartedly with you! Living With was one of the first things I watched on MJ in late 2008, I didn't really know anything about him, yet I could just see the outrageous differences interview-to-interview (and at one point his shoulders look too narrow again) even Bashir picks up on it when he says that line about "It was hard to believe it was the same man at Neverland"- he could sense the differences, I'll bet, but didn't interpret it right (of course, the fool..) That and TII are some of THE most obvious examples of phony-balonies..
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: darkchild on July 27, 2010, 01:18:18 AM
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
Does anyone know when this video was made or if it is a fake?
  :?:  :|

[youtube:3p61n1x7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UddsFTtSZ5Y[/youtube:3p61n1x7]




(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs001.ash2/33432_1521333471389_1176130356_1493321_7646309_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs191.snc4/37875_1521282230108_1176130356_1493249_3128503_n.jpg)

I just wanted to compare some photos of MJ with a hoodie to the video screen shot.  God bless you all! xxx
[attachment=1:3p61n1x7]16975266394125094251105.jpg[/attachment:3p61n1x7]

[attachment=0:3p61n1x7]june24th.jpg[/attachment:3p61n1x7]
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: tekamjforever on July 27, 2010, 07:58:58 AM
It is strange that the picture Mike (next to Ortega) is with his face almost covered with a hood in a closed environment, it is assumed that there are no paparazzi, right? :roll:  :?:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: lacta89 on July 27, 2010, 08:20:27 AM
I don't know......The mannerisms this guy does, are so familiar to me....The way he moves his hands. He also has very big hands, as MJ :?  People are messing around with fans emotions and I still don't see the reason why spent time and energy to fool people around :?
Although I don't think that this is a real video, the description makes me skeptical.... :?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 27, 2010, 08:22:04 AM
Quote from: "tekamjforever"
It is strange that the picture Mike (next to Ortega) is with his face almost covered with a hood in a closed environment, it is assumed that there are no paparazzi, right? :roll:  :?:
IMO its not strange for Mike to be covered with hoodie. Its possible he jus got done dancing & didn want to catch a chill, or maybe he was chilly & seeking warmth by being covered.
I dont think its odd in that video he wears hoodie, cap, & dark glasses...its just his every day attire mayb its odd for someone else to wear, but not for MJ.

I dont think him being covered by hoodie has anything to do with paparazzi.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: tekamjforever on July 27, 2010, 08:56:34 AM
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "tekamjforever"
It is strange that the picture Mike (next to Ortega) is with his face almost covered with a hood in a closed environment, it is assumed that there are no paparazzi, right? :roll:  :?:
IMO its not strange for Mike to be covered with hoodie. Its possible he jus got done dancing & didn want to catch a chill, or maybe he was chilly & seeking warmth by being covered.
I dont think its odd in that video he wears hoodie, cap, & dark glasses...its just his every day attire mayb its odd for someone else to wear, but not for MJ.

I dont think him being covered by hoodie has anything to do with paparazzi.

Even if it were a cold or something, is very strange to have to cover your eyes or face almost all in a closed environment and in conjunction with colleagues. Sorry. imo. :roll:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 28, 2010, 01:31:54 PM
LeahciMNoskcaJ posted new video on his Channel. Can anybody translate??
Thank you in advance.  :D
[youtube:1gpxakye]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdFgalVDzN0[/youtube:1gpxakye]
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on July 28, 2010, 01:38:49 PM
:roll:  :roll:  :roll: wasn´t he going to back off?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 28, 2010, 01:49:35 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
LeahciMNoskcaJ posted new video on his Channel. Can anybody translate??
Thank you in advance.  :D
[youtube:259jye76]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdFgalVDzN0[/youtube:259jye76]

Gosh.... More drama, same fake. I wish people would stop this nonsense.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Puff on July 28, 2010, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
LeahciMNoskcaJ posted new video on his Channel. Can anybody translate??
Thank you in advance.  :D
[youtube:235qe740]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdFgalVDzN0[/youtube:235qe740]


(http://cur.cursors-4u.net/smilies/images1/smi20.gif)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 28, 2010, 04:33:41 PM
I have no idea what it says.

But i would like to see the whole thing in colour.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: foreye on July 28, 2010, 11:58:09 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
LeahciMNoskcaJ posted new video on his Channel. Can anybody translate??
Thank you in advance.  :D
[youtube:33cu811q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdFgalVDzN0[/youtube:33cu811q]
:?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on July 29, 2010, 01:04:02 AM
Quote from: "foreye"
Quote from: "libra8"
LeahciMNoskcaJ posted new video on his Channel. Can anybody translate??
Thank you in advance.  :D
[youtube:32qoqar0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdFgalVDzN0[/youtube:32qoqar0]
:?

Sorry - I can't translate but I'm interested in hearing the results. I'm still not sure if I believe it's Michael but....just can't be 100% sure yet.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: NeVrOzAy on July 29, 2010, 03:41:34 AM
Quote from: "foreye"
Quote from: "libra8"
LeahciMNoskcaJ posted new video on his Channel. Can anybody translate??
Thank you in advance.  :D
[youtube:r0l7aggh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdFgalVDzN0[/youtube:r0l7aggh]
:?

i'm not sure but i think he is angry about the fact that his video has been delated or something by MJDpartner
it's the only thing i think i understand...
someone else ?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 29, 2010, 09:40:08 AM
Someone in another forum translated, this isnt word for word but the jest of meaning: Others are trying to take away his rights in posting his own videos, its him in the video. These are HIS videos, so he has the right to post them. But others dont agree with his video content & want to bannish him.

And the truth is, Leahcim has the right to post his videos just like verybody else does. Isnt this one of MJs messages?? & what he fought so hard for?? The freedom to express himself without criticism & banning from others & people in the business??

And now some believers are trying to block, ban Leahcim thats exactly what MJ fought so hard against. And if Michael really is Leahcim, then its happening all over again to him & he knows that people have learned NOTHING.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: SEHF on July 30, 2010, 08:20:37 AM
Well too bad for Michael then.. shouldn't film poor quality videos of himself flopping around like a dying seal weighing 90 lbs looking like he has tourettes syndrome. Post the original video and quit being a tool Michael. Hiding on youtube being random and vague certainly wont help anything.

Yes I just insulted the King and I openly challenge him to a dance off  :P.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: *Mo* on July 30, 2010, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: "SEHF"
Well too bad for Michael then.. shouldn't film poor quality videos of himself flopping around like a dying seal weighing 90 lbs looking like he has tourettes syndrome. Post the original video and quit being a tool Michael. Hiding on youtube being random and vague certainly wont help anything.

Yes I just insulted the King and I openly challenge him to a dance off  :P.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 30, 2010, 09:14:41 AM
Quote from: "SEHF"
Well too bad for Michael then.. shouldn't film poor quality videos of himself flopping around like a dying seal weighing 90 lbs looking like he has tourettes syndrome. Post the original video and quit being a tool Michael. Hiding on youtube being random and vague certainly wont help anything.

Yes I just insulted the King and I openly challenge him to a dance off  :P.
This definitely made me giggle, thank you Shef! :lol:  8-)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sternschen87 on July 30, 2010, 10:17:31 AM
but also IF this is Michael, then we do not know at which time is was recorded.....

And this means, we have no clue :(
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 30, 2010, 01:45:38 PM
Leahcim Noskcaj says it was recorded May 2010. Leachim says michael is dead & that it has to be that way. But that Leachim is Michael & Leachim is in the video.

Here is a frame of the above video at 4:18. Who is it??

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/q-1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: whisper9396 on July 30, 2010, 03:15:48 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
Leahcim Noskcaj says it was recorded May 2010. Leachim says michael is dead & that it has to be that way. But that Leachim is Michael & Leachim is in the video.

Here is a frame of the above video at 4:18. Who is it??

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/q-1-1.jpg)
this man is very looks like MJ. But when did made this video? Before ore after :?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 30, 2010, 03:23:41 PM
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Quote from: "libra8"
Leahcim Noskcaj says it was recorded May 2010. Leachim says michael is dead & that it has to be that way. But that Leachim is Michael & Leachim is in the video.

Here is a frame of the above video at 4:18. Who is it??

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/q-1-1.jpg)
this man is very looks like MJ. But when did made this video? Before ore after :?

What part exactly looks like MJ?  :?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 30, 2010, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Quote from: "libra8"
Leahcim Noskcaj says it was recorded May 2010. Leachim says michael is dead & that it has to be that way. But that Leachim is Michael & Leachim is in the video.

Here is a frame of the above video at 4:18. Who is it??

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/q-1-1.jpg)
this man is very looks like MJ. But when did made this video? Before ore after :?

What part exactly looks like MJ?  :?
The hands, jawline, chin, mouth, & the body movements, basically the whole picture looks like MJ...I've never seen an impersonater or body double with movement like that.
Here are a few more lightened frames from Leahcim video, IMO this is Mike.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/g2.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/m2.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/n2z.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 30, 2010, 03:49:50 PM
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Quote from: "libra8"
Leahcim Noskcaj says it was recorded May 2010. Leachim says michael is dead & that it has to be that way. But that Leachim is Michael & Leachim is in the video.

Here is a frame of the above video at 4:18. Who is it??

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/q-1-1.jpg)
this man is very looks like MJ. But when did made this video? Before ore after :?
Leahcim Noskcaj said that the video was made May 2010.

AFTER the death it was made.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 30, 2010, 03:52:11 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Quote from: "libra8"
Leahcim Noskcaj says it was recorded May 2010. Leachim says michael is dead & that it has to be that way. But that Leachim is Michael & Leachim is in the video.

Here is a frame of the above video at 4:18. Who is it??

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/q-1-1.jpg)
this man is very looks like MJ. But when did made this video? Before ore after :?

What part exactly looks like MJ?  :?
The hands, jawline, chin, mouth, & the body movements, basically the whole picture looks like MJ...I've never seen an impersonater or body double with movement like that.
Here are a few more lightened frames from Leahcim video, IMO this is Mike.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/g2.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/m2.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/n2z.jpg)


Sorry, but I strongly disagree.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Xinobi on July 30, 2010, 05:36:06 PM
Look at the name LeahciM Noskcaj instead is MICHAEL JACKSON! IS THAT THE BILL IS MICHAEL?


excuse my English but I am Portuguese.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on July 30, 2010, 06:44:51 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Quote from: "libra8"
Leahcim Noskcaj says it was recorded May 2010. Leachim says michael is dead & that it has to be that way. But that Leachim is Michael & Leachim is in the video.

Here is a frame of the above video at 4:18. Who is it??

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/q-1-1.jpg)
this man is very looks like MJ. But when did made this video? Before ore after :?

What part exactly looks like MJ?  :?
The hands, jawline, chin, mouth, & the body movements, basically the whole picture looks like MJ...I've never seen an impersonater or body double with movement like that.
Here are a few more lightened frames from Leahcim video, IMO this is Mike.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/g2.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/m2.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/n2z.jpg)


Sorry, but I strongly disagree.
I agree to disagree...only time will tell, thts cool   :D
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: PinkTopaz on July 30, 2010, 10:55:15 PM
Oh my gosh, that is the worst quality I've ever seen! What is it with all of these foreign fakers trying to mess with people's heads- that guy's fingers are far too short, as well as the ridiculous quality..!

Quote from: "SEHF"
Well too bad for Michael then.. shouldn't film poor quality videos of himself flopping around like a dying seal weighing 90 lbs looking like he has tourettes syndrome. Post the original video and quit being a tool Michael. Hiding on youtube being random and vague certainly wont help anything.

*spits out laughter*
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sangre on July 31, 2010, 04:44:16 AM
That video is enough to fool me. It looks like Michael, but I believe the similarity comes from the clever editing. I mean, there must be a reason why the video is in a such a lousy quality and in gray scale colors.  :roll:

That Spanish description is eerie. It sounds as if (if it's true, which I doubt) MJ had difficulties dancing and singing after the alleged healing from cardiac arrest and instead of helping him recover people make fun of him, leaking the video online.  :cry:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sangre on July 31, 2010, 04:48:30 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
It seems that not being a fan is still considered a capital crime...

Next to the changing body shape, there's a remarkable difference in movements.  Some can dance, some really can't.

No. It's not a crime. But I think you should one or two times believe what the long time fans are saying.
Sorry, but I think we should know it better.

I think it's easier to see for non fans than for fans.  Non fans don't have that emotional connection, and therefor it's easier so see and accept things which fans might not even want to see.

I'll leave it right here, time will tell.

It's obviously easier for non fans to believe certain stuff, especially when it comes to the far stretched ideas. For e.g someone who doesn't know dogs may believe rottweiler will attack without being provoked, a person who knows dogs and has experience KNOWS that it's not true. If you get what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sternschen87 on July 31, 2010, 09:01:16 AM
Look what I have found:

He is also using the backwards spelling...
And he has the same doors..

[youtube:29cezb5s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdLNLPpcnRc&feature=channel[/youtube:29cezb5s]

What do you think?

Maybe he is very good in editing....
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sangre on August 01, 2010, 08:57:55 AM
(http://i27.tinypic.com/34g4vig.jpg)

Added a contrast and turned it lighter. How's that?

The cheekbones and facial shape are indeed like MJ's, but the nose doesn't match.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Datroot on August 01, 2010, 09:05:35 AM
The nose is blurry so I can't tell properly but his mouth is identical.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: robd on August 01, 2010, 04:01:00 PM
I think this video could have come from Michael as another clue/part of revealing himself bit by bit, it may be one of his doubles in the video or maybe even himself deliberately not doing proper dance moves to keep you all guessing but it also keeps everyone thinking about MJ in the present tense!
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on August 01, 2010, 04:03:50 PM
IDK why I feel that could be this person  :?

(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2005/Jun/Week2/1303590.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Victor on August 01, 2010, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
IDK why I feel that could be this person  :?

(http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2005/Jun/Week2/1303590.jpg)
Earnest Valentino .... :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on August 01, 2010, 04:52:27 PM
May be he is the one in the video? Let´s spamm his mailbox!
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Sangre on August 02, 2010, 01:19:04 AM
One person said they messaged him (on another hoax site) and asked if those videos were a clue that Michael is closer to returning and Leachim had said in pure English (video descriptions are in Spanish): "Do not believe it until 2012. First the construction of the monument."

Monument? wth?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 02, 2010, 05:01:30 AM
Quote from: "Sangre"
One person said they messaged him (on another hoax site) and asked if those videos were a clue that Michael is closer to returning and Leachim had said in pure English (video descriptions are in Spanish): "Do not believe it until 2012. First the construction of the monument."

Monument? wth?

 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: lisap27 on August 02, 2010, 05:45:24 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Sangre"
One person said they messaged him (on another hoax site) and asked if those videos were a clue that Michael is closer to returning and Leachim had said in pure English (video descriptions are in Spanish): "Do not believe it until 2012. First the construction of the monument."

Monument? wth?

 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

good god.. this sounds like MJ is on a big ego trip if this is the case wanting monuments of himself.. have i read that right!!  :roll:

i don't get that if i have read it right sounds very cultish to me..  :?  :roll:

like a FALSE IDOL!!  :shock:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: gstatpro on August 15, 2010, 02:42:55 PM
I think its him... In my opinion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdFgalVDzN0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdFgalVDzN0)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: mumof3 on August 15, 2010, 02:53:36 PM
Mediahypeagain has said some very disturbing things on twitter like do you want pics of my dead brother  so he seems to think he is a Jackson in his world
He is scary
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 15, 2010, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: "mumof3"
Mediahypeagain has said some very disturbing things on twitter like do you want pics of my dead brother  so he seems to think he is a Jackson in his world
He is scary

He is someone that shouldn't get any attention. If you just lost your sibling you are not on Twitter or hoax forums. He needs to stop his mind games.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: DropDeadCholly on August 15, 2010, 03:46:27 PM
I watched this video again today and I thought about what, is he maybe Barry Shaw ?
Sorry If I Am Wrong.. :?  :roll:  :?:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Red_Rose on August 16, 2010, 07:01:36 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mumof3"
Mediahypeagain has said some very disturbing things on twitter like do you want pics of my dead brother  so he seems to think he is a Jackson in his world
He is scary

He is someone that shouldn't get any attention. If you just lost your sibling you are not on Twitter or hoax forums. He needs to stop his mind games.
I read his tweets also..and I don't know really what is his problem :? he seems always very angry and upset & he wrote some disturbing tweets regarding his dead brother, like this:
MEDIAHYPEAGAIN
Why are the admins at MJHD.net allowing my brothers death to be played with? Should I post a photo of him in his coffin to make this stop?     10:05 PM Aug 10th  via web

This make believe "hoax" has desensitized people in every sense of the word... If this is what Michael stood for... Well... Fuck him     4:39 AM Aug 9th  via web  

And before you consider starting a stupid rumor, at least do some research... And MJHD.net. Are you proud of a thread with my dead bros pic?     4:37 AM Aug 9th  via web  

 :( :(
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 16, 2010, 10:01:58 AM
Quote from: "Red_Rose"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mumof3"
Mediahypeagain has said some very disturbing things on twitter like do you want pics of my dead brother  so he seems to think he is a Jackson in his world
He is scary

He is someone that shouldn't get any attention. If you just lost your sibling you are not on Twitter or hoax forums. He needs to stop his mind games.
I read his tweets also..and I don't know really what is his problem :? he seems always very angry and upset & he wrote some disturbing tweets regarding his dead brother, like this:
MEDIAHYPEAGAIN
Why are the admins at MJHD.net allowing my brothers death to be played with? Should I post a photo of him in his coffin to make this stop?     10:05 PM Aug 10th  via web

This make believe "hoax" has desensitized people in every sense of the word... If this is what Michael stood for... Well... Fuck him     4:39 AM Aug 9th  via web  

And before you consider starting a stupid rumor, at least do some research... And MJHD.net. Are you proud of a thread with my dead bros pic?     4:37 AM Aug 9th  via web  

 :( :(

MHA is talking about the photos I originally posted on my blog in October/November when I investigated and proved the Leachim (on Hyves) was a fake and either MHA himself or linked to MHA. This resulted in Leachim deleting his Hyves. I recently reposted these photos on the forums in response to LeahciM NoskcaJ's "Who Is It" video.

Quote from: "illusionist"
by illusionist » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:10 pm
He was talking about the pictures Serenity's Dream posted in the thread about him. Serenity has removed the photos. Now can we delete this thread?

Here: http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=12458&start=25#p207902

The thing is, I copied these photos off of MHA's Blog, twitter, Skype and myspace. He had posted them as pictures of HIMSELF. Now if they are of his brother, then he was lying at the time he posted them, if they are of him as he claimed at the time he posted them, then he is lying now. Either way he is lying and Maura has said that MHA is a "Jackson" which is total BS. MHA plays games and wants attention, on MJHD.net they already removed the pictures.

Quote from: " MJ4everLOVE"
by MJ4everLOVE » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:49 pm
Actually, I deleted those photos and would appreciate if we would quit making numerous threads about this.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=10657
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: vilte90 on August 19, 2010, 09:35:16 AM
Quote from: "Sangre"
One person said they messaged him (on another hoax site) and asked if those videos were a clue that Michael is closer to returning and Leachim had said in pure English (video descriptions are in Spanish): "Do not believe it until 2012. First the construction of the monument."

Monument? wth?

Monument in Gary, Indiana maybe?
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on August 26, 2010, 02:50:11 PM
[youtube:ese721hs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxwZpEPMGkQ[/youtube:ese721hs]
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Puff on August 26, 2010, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
[youtube:2loxgkq0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxwZpEPMGkQ[/youtube:2loxgkq0]


Mystery solved..........  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: MissG on August 26, 2010, 04:54:21 PM
I guess that now "we" (because have been more than one who said that the video was a fraud) can wear the "I told you so" T-shirt  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: libra8 on August 26, 2010, 07:35:06 PM
I dont see the mystery being solved because Fabio

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/Untitledd2-1.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/Untitledc2-1.jpg)

Doesnt look like this guy at all.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/456466-1.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/q.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/seveena_2009/mj12-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: superflysister81 on August 26, 2010, 08:04:04 PM
oh, I bet Laechim aka Fabio will upload more videos of the behind the scenes  :lol:
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 26, 2010, 09:46:30 PM
Quote from: "Milena_MJ"
http://www.youtube.com/user/LeachimNoskcaj

Read comments. go pages behind

Quote
LeachimNoskcaj

I struggled to get to Michael.
Name Leachim reached the most remote places on the internet.
But it's time to say goodbye to the name Leachim.
Now, I'm just Fabio.There Leachims, many knew it.
Most had hoped, but I always knew I was one, and that I was wrong.
Michael Jackson has never been with us personally, but was keeping an eye on us.
He never agreed with our work, and why my channel was suspended.
But now, I no longer have to lie.
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 26, 2010, 10:12:38 PM
Translated from Portuguese. From Mulher Pobre's blog ("Poor Woman" in English)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Fi-ZZqoucgk/THZaKjR6CFI/AAAAAAAAEq8/QqqmM-nTZiE/s550/lm.jpg)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Fi-ZZqoucgk/THadhSffZrI/AAAAAAAAErY/f2fHsJBlidI/s450/02.jpg)

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Fi-ZZqoucgk/THadhGoh0II/AAAAAAAAErU/yhbQ0hi3djk/s450/01.jpg)

Quote
LeahciM NoskcaJ said on 08/26/2010
Personally, I just want to tell the world that I'm a Fake.
I said I'd show a video, and it would be a surprise.
I recorded last night, so it's so dark, but that's it.
I would like everyone to know who I am, and the images were shown for MP.
I was always an eye on everything, but I'm not Michael Jackson, I'm just LeahciM NoskcaJ, whose original name is   Fabio.
The video I will post today on the channel for those who want to see.
I know, that's all!

Quote
Poor woman said on 8/26/2010
@LeahciM NoskcaJ, you know what's worse??
I was not wrong, I would like very much is now apologizing for my mistake.
Well now you saying that is a fake FDP will make dozens of fans suffer.
Will hit a void in the hearts of these people.
And for what?
Prove what?
That people still believe in something without thinking?
Who did not understand anything that MJ said?
I think there would be more dignified ways of doing this...

Quote
LeahciM NoskcaJ said on 08/26/2010
I'm in the video dressed in white blouses.
I've always been.
The LeahciM is Fabio.

Quote
Poor woman said on 8/26/2010
I'll be short and thick.
Fabio did a lot of stupid people.
Now who will raise the sign with the phrase "I AM IDIOT"?
Few!
Many will still try to prove that the video and MJ, even saying that Fabio is it.


Quote
LeahciM NoskcaJ said on 08/26/2010
I'm being honest now because when it comes to telling the truth.
As the world say, the truth will out.
I would say that the print of the MP is much better than that in black and white video that barely see anything.
Did you ever stop to think that LeahciM may not be the only crazy people who research that Michael is alive?
People have invented, was not I who forged the death, but I know there's a lot of craziness around it all.
MP know that I have suffered because of the Hoax, it need not believe, and nobody needs to know, but the truth is that lying hurts.
LeahciM brought hope to many, but at the same time opened the eyes of a crowd of people who fall into the nonsense that was on the face that was fake.
If anyone believed that a group of seven leachims had Michael as chief, and was there for the world walking by canals, frankly ... These people are totally deluded, are infected by the illusion of fantasy stories.
ell me that if I come here saying that Michael was flying in my window, people will believe?
Maybe believe ...
These people must open their eyes, I'm not the first to invent anything, nor I will be the last.
Save your words of disgrace, not to say that I'm an idiot, irrational, because everyone already knows this, and I even know.
For now, the only thing you need to analyze is that I know more than you about the Hoax.
Nobody here knows more than me, and I do not know more than anyone here ... Everyone knows what is truth and what is lies, all the things I said, there are truths and lies, it's up to each use your head to get the good enough.
Another thing I'll repeat, I am in the videos ... In all, the video of the first steps in 2010, and another who demanded MJDpartners rights.
In the picture above, print the MP, also me last night.
Okay, any more doubts?

Quote
LeahciM NoskcaJ said on 08/26/2010
Yeah, and while people kill themselves so much hate, trying to destroy the moral NONEXISTENCE already a person who plays with the feelings of others, I'm sitting here in my chair, watching it all unfold.
MP, you always put ... I helped spread the scam.
Look, do not waste your time talking nonsense to me, why go in one ear and out the other.
I've said what I had to talk, you already know-tions they had to know, need not be dwelling on it ...
Another thing, do not want to go through nice ...
It was never my intention, but one thing you ignore is that my drivel is some truth, but you prefer to lead by Odio, and continue on thorns, and thus never reach the Roses ...
I'm not Shango, owner of justice, but I believe in my tiny head that the way things has been going on, nobody ever get anywhere.
Sorry but I'm not a bit worried about what people are saying to me.
Tired of being a psychopath, I decided to GROW, and forget the people who call themselves fans of Michael announcing follow in his footsteps, but in the end they forget the principal.
Love was left to bring ...
Ah yes, I am not using love to be acquitted, and did nothing for nobody.
You know all, own the truth, and know that I did everything to get attention.
Okay, okay ...
What else?

Quote
LeahciM NoskcaJ said on 08/26/2010
Oh, another thing.
Everything that was posted here was not discovered myself quiz show.
Nobody came up to me and unmasked, even I did it.

Quote
Poor woman said on 8/26/2010
@LeahciM NoskcaJ
This is a double-edged sword.
To prove that people were misled had to disclose, but it helped you.
There was another way?

Quote
LeahciM NoskcaJ said on 08/26/2010
I have a great job.
People already know that I am the General Coordinator of Social Programs.
Working with the poor, people thrown out of food and no money, living with the human misery from Monday to Friday.
I am not inhuman, nor am I to do without.
I'm just what you'd like me to be.
Ah MP, had another way, but I preferred to leave the privilege to you.

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LeahciM NoskcaJ said on 08/26/2010
[youtube:24kcpm9v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxwZpEPMGkQ[/youtube:24kcpm9v]

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LeahciM NoskcaJ said on 08/26/2010
I do not feel any guilt.
On the contrary, I feel a relief!


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Poor woman said on 8/26/2010
Fabio's fault for having created the lie, but it is not the only culprit.
People who believed also to blame ...
And the worst thing that even he is talking about it in the video some people still think it's MJ...


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LeahciM NoskcaJ said on 08/26/2010
And the coming of Michael Jackson!

http://translate.google.com.br/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmulherpobre.com%2F2010%2F08%2F26%2Fnao-estou-louca%2F&sl=pt&tl=en
Title: Re: Is this MJ or a Impersonator?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 26, 2010, 11:46:15 PM
I think it's time to close this chapter.
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