Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: bliss1712 on June 30, 2010, 04:43:20 PM
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Please read comments!!!!
http://bit.ly/bqlM6s (http://bit.ly/bqlM6s)
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Someone contacted Marvin. He hasn't seen his brother since the 80s and does not know who this nephew is.
So I guess that's that then!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you!
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Not that much of a surprise...
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why are you so quick to believe something you read on a YT comments?. its not hard to do some innovative writing and say that you've been in contact with someone.
Alot of people within this hoax world often become jelous, or if they dont believe in the story themselves they try to debunk it quickly. We may never know the truth about the caller.
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why are you so quick to believe something you read on a YT comments?. its not hard to do some innovative writing and say that you've been in contact with someone.
Alot of people within this hoax world often become jelous, or if they dont believe in the story themselves they try to debunk it quickly. We may never know the truth about the caller.
I was about to say the same ..
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Why is a YouTube comment more credible then the caller.
Human nature is a very odd and complex thing.
I am still neutral on this and would like to find more information before settling on an opinion. YouTube comments don't count, in my opinion, as legitimate research or verification.
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It will be interesting to just wait and see
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I am continuing to Keep the Faith!
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The caller sounded really genuine i'm not going to rule him out yet. What crossed my mind is maybe being Marvin's nephew was made up, I honestly think MJ had this released.
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The caller never ones stutters his words or messes up his sentences, and that, proven by physcology shows that when you are telling the truth you dont mess up sentences or stutter, stutter your words and setences are all tell tale signs of someone lying.
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thats true he was very calm and collected he did not over do it which is what normally happens
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Actually I don't care about this nephew thing so much. He didn't give us anything new so why would I care if he's legit or not.
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Who has checked out the person who said they tracked down Uncle Marvin? I mean how exactly did they track down Marvin so quickly? Do they even know if they had the right person? Who are they that they are such a credible source?
I have listened to this video a few times and I don't detect a lot of lying. The guy on the video goes on tangents, which is quite unusual for a liar because liars are usually methodical and meticulous in word choice. They are usually trying to remember the lie or script and just normally don't go off on a tangent style rant. He seemed very natural and there was no stuttering or anything like that.
I'm 50/50 on this and so many other things point to MJ being alive that I don't need the validity of this YT to confirm my belief.
Either way I'm not discounting this guy just yet.
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Actually I don't care about this nephew thing so much. He didn't give us anything new so why would I care if he's legit or not.
How in the world can you say that with a straight face???
If what he says is the truth it's, um, hoax shattering.
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I have listened to this video a few times and I don't detect a lot of lying. The guy on the video goes on tangents, which is quite unusual for a liar because liars are usually methodical and meticulous in word choice. They are usually trying to remember the lie or script and just normally don't go off on a tangent style rant. He seemed very natural and there was no stuttering or anything like that.
Exactly. This guy is either an Oscar winning actor or he's telling what he believes to be the truth. Or he could be a pathological liar I suppose. But it's fairly compelling testimony, which is why I still haven't classified it as BS.
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I agree, it's easy for me to disregard that youtube comment. We'll see where this goes but for the moment, I agree with everybody else about the way he speaks and what he's saying in general, I think this guy sounds pretty genuine!!!
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The caller never ones stutters his words or messes up his sentences, and that, proven by physcology shows that when you are telling the truth you dont mess up sentences or stutter, stutter your words and setences are all tell tale signs of someone lying.
You are absolutely right, I studied phsychology, and it is a proven factor if you lie you do mumble and stutter. I feel this person is telling the truth. But my question is why? If MJ is in danger why announce this by radio so everyone can know about it? Wouldn't this put MJ more into danger?
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Why would anyone assume that all lying is characterized by stutters and hesitations? If lying was that easy to discern, humans wouldn't get away with half the BS they pull.
And nothing he said can be verified anyway (unless he or the uncle offers up some proof), And the uncle probably can't say jack either way b/c I'm sure he's bound by a confidentiality agreement. So how does anything "the nephew" said actually confirm the hoax?
Even if the bodyguard is still getting paychecks, that just means the estate kept him on the payroll, probably for the kids and to secure the properties. I believe they did this with most of the security staff, at least for a while.
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why are you so quick to believe something you read on a YT comments?. its not hard to do some innovative writing and say that you've been in contact with someone.
Alot of people within this hoax world often become jelous, or if they dont believe in the story themselves they try to debunk it quickly. We may never know the truth about the caller.
That's true - I guess we all believe what we want to. That person never provided proof - just a message that Marvin didn't know the person. For me - I'll wait it out. The truth will prevail in the end.
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This is what she said about her conversation
http://www.youtube.com/user/kittycat10100 Look in the channel comment's part...she wrote it all down...it wont let me cut and paste it here...oh, and I too found his number...he has a limo service and a body guard service...easy peasy...LOL
Oh, and I told you all he was a body guard for tours along time ago! I got yelled at for that!
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here are his numbers
Marvin butts
Mr bubbles detailing (513)3690064
air marvins limo service (513) 221-3200
butts foundation (513) 369-0025.
all things he owns...there is also a body gaurd company and a clothing store for big and tall he owns but I can't find them...I found them yesterday and I can't get them back.
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here are his numbers
Marvin butts
Mr bubbles detailing (513)3690064
air marvins limo service (513) 221-3200
butts foundation (513) 369-0025.
all things he owns...there is also a body gaurd company and a clothing store for big and tall he owns but I can't find them...I found them yesterday and I can't get them back.
How do you know that's the Marvin the caller is referring to?
Or are you assuming :lol:
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here are his numbers
Marvin butts
Mr bubbles detailing (513)3690064
air marvins limo service (513) 221-3200
butts foundation (513) 369-0025.
all things he owns...there is also a body gaurd company and a clothing store for big and tall he owns but I can't find them...I found them yesterday and I can't get them back.
How do you know that's the Marvin the caller is referring to?
Or are you assuming :lol:
because the only body guards around MJ at the time of his death were not named Marvin and this Marivn Butts did work for MJ...He says so on the page I got the foundation number from. And ya know what...why does anyone who takes a moment to research, to do what anyone else can do, and report it always have to be shot down?! NO ONE here went to that girls channel to see what else she had to say even though she said visit her page to see the story in the comments the poster provided! Thats all you get here on this sight...if you wanna shoot me down then have some evidence to back yourself up! Find another Marvin!
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Actually I don't care about this nephew thing so much. He didn't give us anything new so why would I care if he's legit or not.
:lol: :lol: :lol: ... yeah me neither :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm only reading this thread cause there's nothing else to :D .
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so this nephew knows about the radio show..makes you wonder if he knows about us too?? if so, he could have come here and mentioned something
(just a thought)
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Marvin G Butts in English Gematria Equals: 996 (18+6= 24; 24:8= 3)
Marvin G Butts = September Eleven, While You Live, It,S All For L O V E, Magnificent Seven
Marvin Butts in English Gematria Equals: 954 (14+4= 18; 18:2= 9)
Marvin Butts = Project Monarch, Never Never Land, I Love Norway, Bilderberg Group, Aphrodite Jones, Remember The Time, Place With No Name
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I'm on the fence on this one, but so far I'm going with the caller:)
I visited the youtube link(provided below)of "kittycat10100, whom stated she was the actual person whom called "Marvin". Honestly folks, I found it interesting that some seem to think that the phone information was difficult to find.
I also question why "Marvin" would be concerned as to "kittycat" leadking information that is very easy to find on the internet. Why? Why unless the alleged nephew is correct i.e. "Marvin" has changed his number.
However what I did find very interesting was another vid poster on her channel with what I found to be extremely interesting information. It is information that we've discussed of course, but IMO much more in depth.
If you go the link below & start following the comments, especially on page 8, I believe you will be quite surprised & enlightened. The posters vid ID is mmlevyjones.
http://www.youtube.com/user/kittycat10100 (http://www.youtube.com/user/kittycat10100)
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here are his numbers
Marvin butts
Mr bubbles detailing (513)3690064
air marvins limo service (513) 221-3200
butts foundation (513) 369-0025.
all things he owns...there is also a body gaurd company and a clothing store for big and tall he owns but I can't find them...I found them yesterday and I can't get them back.
Gee - Michael must be paying him REALLY well....
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I'm not sayin either the 'nephew' or this girl are lying but I was reading her comments on her YouTube channel and I realized if this girl can bother the lapd and all to get her info, she could talk to Marvin too.
Some people actually do take action so who knows :$
I do appreciate her trying to find the truth out just like us
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Wow, what a beautiful story of MJ's love for ordinary people, on Kittycat. Thanks for sharing the link. I guess I'm on the fence about this nephew. Thanks to all who dug for info for clarity. Back to this Kittycat story, does anybody remember the story that this girl shared a long time ago here, about her working in a hotel in the Philippines and having to do a charity for sick children. MJ happened to be in the hotel and helped her out in an incredibly loving manner. It was such a beautiful glimpse of his ways with people. :cry: :D
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Wow, what a beautiful story of MJ's love for ordinary people, on Kittycat. Thanks for sharing the link. I guess I'm on the fence about this nephew. Thanks to all who dug for info for clarity. Back to this Kittycat story, does anybody remember the story that this girl shared a long time ago here, about her working in a hotel in the Philippines and having to do a charity for sick children. MJ happened to be in the hotel and helped her out in an incredibly loving manner. It was such a beautiful glimpse of his ways with people. :cry: :D
Yup.. Omg was I this girl?
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Who said padded cell? ...
Who Is In The Hoax in English Gematria Equals: 1068 (7+8= 15; 15:5= 3)
Who Is In The Hoax = Jackson Brothers, Ark Of The Covenant, President Barack Obama
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Who Are In The Hoax in English Gematria Equals: 1044 (5+4= 9; 9:3= 3)
Who Are In The Hoax = Marvin Bodyguard, The Seventh Son [/color](Michael), According To Hoyle
According to Hoyle
Meaning
In accord with the highest authority; in accord with a strict set of rules.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/acco ... hoyle.html (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/according-to-hoyle.html)