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Title: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: peshtishor on June 28, 2010, 05:28:31 PM
i've found some pictures from 2008 and 2009,i think,with MJ and tohme...and i really don't like this guy...take a look...
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: peshtishor on June 28, 2010, 05:30:37 PM
or this one
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Post by: peshtishor on June 28, 2010, 05:32:15 PM
another one
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Post by: peshtishor on June 28, 2010, 05:34:08 PM
and another :(
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: Lonelynation on June 28, 2010, 05:35:56 PM
He better get his hands off our Michael!  :evil:
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Post by: peshtishor on June 28, 2010, 05:38:22 PM
:(  tohme has such an evil look....don't you think?
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on July 01, 2010, 08:19:19 AM
Quote from: "peshtishor"
:(  tohme has such an evil look....don't you think?


Yes, but if you look at it another way, what if ...  there really was someone after Michael, and he was looking out I mean really "looking out" for him, you might get the same desparate look in the eyes, and the hand could be taken as guiding or looking after him almost like a parent child thing if you get my meaning.  I am not defending Tohme but more trying to look at both sides of the coin.

Blessings let us hope it is the latter "defending" role he was in.

 :shock:
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on July 01, 2010, 08:20:43 AM
Quote from: "peshtishor"
:(  tohme has such an evil look....don't you think?


just wondering, your black heart, do you believe Michael  has "died"?
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: peshtishor on July 01, 2010, 10:38:10 AM
i don't know what to think...but i'm trying to think with my mind...not with my heart. :?
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: MissG on July 01, 2010, 10:49:46 AM
Looks like Tohme don´t want Michael to have contact with the crowd or people around  :?  like if Michael would be held as a hostage  :cry:
Michael, a 50 year old man being grabbed in that way? :cry: He is a delicate soul for heavens sake!

I try not to be too judgemental but it hurts to look at those pics  :(  looks like MJ wanted to tell people please get me, screaming for help.
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: Red_Rose on July 01, 2010, 12:54:29 PM
I don't like Tohme Tohme ... he has an evil look..and speaking about him? Where is he?? I mean nobody says nothing about him , even MJ's family! We saw on TV some of MJ's friends, Frank Dileo so many others in interviews ......but Tohme Tohme?! Where is this guy? :?
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: peshtishor on July 01, 2010, 06:08:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw38AZEv ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw38AZEv4io&feature=related)

something about him
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Post by: mumof3 on July 01, 2010, 06:11:45 PM
Yes where is he it has all gone quiet about him
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 01, 2010, 06:13:29 PM
Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"
Quote from: "peshtishor"
:(  tohme has such an evil look....don't you think?


Yes, but if you look at it another way, what if ...  there really was someone after Michael, and he was looking out I mean really "looking out" for him, you might get the same desparate look in the eyes, and the hand could be taken as guiding or looking after him almost like a parent child thing if you get my meaning.  I am not defending Tohme but more trying to look at both sides of the coin.

Blessings let us hope it is the latter "defending" role he was in.

 :shock:


YES.. maybe we need to turn things on their heads...  what if Thome was PROTECTING Michael and thats why he was always there with that look on his face.  To me it looks like Thome is looking around him, looking out.. he isnt staring AT Michael, but out in the crowd.   Michael is still smiling in the pics and i do believe Michael would have the strength to tell him to get his hands off him if he didnt like it.

I have heard from someone else that after the O2 awards, angry words were said between Michael and Thome.. but what if they were arguing about something else and not about Thome...  umm.. trying to think outside of the box...  maybe Michael didnt feel Thome was protecting him enough or something.. i dont know.
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 01, 2010, 08:33:58 PM
Turn it on its head.. what if Thome is with Michael???

Watch this video with new eyes...


[youtube:2wphrxkd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB7PE_rSAhA&playnext_from=TL&videos=n8qzuwqosAQ[/youtube:2wphrxkd]
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: msteetee34 on July 01, 2010, 08:48:11 PM
Well I heard in an interview somewhere that Thome was brought in to help MJ by his brother Jermaine.  He helped MJ with the financial troubles with Neverland.  I think they said that Thome put up like 23 million to help MJ.  Lets not forget that Thome was also at the conference with Jermaine when MJ supposedly died.  If he was harming MJ do you think that he would have been there with Jermaine?  It could be a possibility that he was protecting MJ that's why he has such a tight guard on him.  Maybe he's just a very intense man.  I'm not saying this is a fact just an opinion.  I'm trying to see the other side of the coin.  I don't think any of the family has said anything negative about Thome.
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 01, 2010, 09:06:03 PM
Quote from: "msteetee34"
Well I heard in an interview somewhere that Thome was brought in to help MJ by his brother Jermaine.  He helped MJ with the financial troubles with Neverland.  I think they said that Thome put up like 23 million to help MJ.  Lets not forget that Thome was also at the conference with Jermaine when MJ supposedly died.  If he was harming MJ do you think that he would have been there with Jermaine?  It could be a possibility that he was protecting MJ that's why he has such a tight guard on him.  Maybe he's just a very intense man.  I'm not saying this is a fact just an opinion.  I'm trying to see the other side of the coin.  I don't think any of the family has said anything negative about Thome.


Jermaine, Thome and DiLEo were all at the hospital together.  There is footage of them right before Jermaine makes the announcement.

Im also starting to see things from the other side now and considering that Thome may well be protecting Michael and not controlling him.
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: peshtishor on July 02, 2010, 04:22:13 AM
if they were such good friends..when why MJ fired him?  and he was very happy about that.
And what about this?
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUoA4k9XTnE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUoA4k9XTnE)

and what was he doing at the hospital?  he was fired..and how did he knew that MJ was there?Maybe he has something to do with all of this...
-and tohme tohme is not missing....i saw him on tv...and i'm trying to find that video....
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: mmz on July 02, 2010, 04:29:11 AM
..had thome thome disappeared? Have you seen him around after 25?Or released interviews?
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: MissG on July 02, 2010, 04:58:06 AM
May be Tohme is an "intense" man, but I don´t like a bit those grabbing arm pics  :(

To see him with Jermaine and Halima, hugging and giving condolences confuses me right after listening to Michael claiming that he did not like Tohme.
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: mjfansince4 on July 02, 2010, 05:09:07 AM
okay please take into consideration the circumstances michael is in, in those pictures. i'm neither defending or judging tohme, but i know my friends would grab me like that to get me through an ambushing crowd. i mean, we don't know the situation happening when the picture was being taken. we also haven't gotten any other clues that show tohme as one of the "enemies." i mean, it's been pretty quiet on his behalf.
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: peshtishor on July 02, 2010, 05:12:19 AM
we don't have any other evidence? what about the tape in which  MJ said he was afraid of him??
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: MissG on July 02, 2010, 05:15:49 AM
Right. Michael said he was afraid of Tohme.

The Tohme is a nice guy theory"  would make some sense if we know that the phone call was made by an impersonator then  :?  If Tohme was not nice to the impersonator but nice to Michael....

I am losing it again(http://www.smileyshut.com/smileys/new/Confused/confused-31.gif)
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: clea on July 02, 2010, 06:13:08 AM
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/14/28/84/78/tohme-10.jpg)

Thome Thome and Randy Philips arrive together at UCLA
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on July 02, 2010, 09:46:49 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "msteetee34"
Well I heard in an interview somewhere that Thome was brought in to help MJ by his brother Jermaine.  He helped MJ with the financial troubles with Neverland.  I think they said that Thome put up like 23 million to help MJ.  Lets not forget that Thome was also at the conference with Jermaine when MJ supposedly died.  If he was harming MJ do you think that he would have been there with Jermaine?  It could be a possibility that he was protecting MJ that's why he has such a tight guard on him.  Maybe he's just a very intense man.  I'm not saying this is a fact just an opinion.  I'm trying to see the other side of the coin.  I don't think any of the family has said anything negative about Thome.


Jermaine, Thome and DiLEo were all at the hospital together.  There is footage of them right before Jermaine makes the announcement.

Im also starting to see things from the other side now and considering that Thome may well be protecting Michael and not controlling him.


Another point, in the helecopter footage was shown Thome escorting the gurnay with MJ on board accross the hospital roof to the helecopter, this has just struck me in view of discussion above turning things on their head so to speak? :?
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 02, 2010, 06:02:42 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Right. Michael said he was afraid of Tohme.

The Tohme is a nice guy theory"  would make some sense if we know that the phone call was made by an impersonator then  :?  If Tohme was not nice to the impersonator but nice to Michael....

I am losing it again(http://www.smileyshut.com/smileys/new/Confused/confused-31.gif)

Or what if thats all part of the hoax..  MJ wanted people to believe he was scared of Thome when in reality Thome was helping him
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: Zen on July 03, 2010, 01:29:12 PM
Wow is all I can say!  TOHME shadowed Mike and would not let
him out of his sight within a foot!
Michael was SCARED of TOHME!  He did not fake it, what he faked
was trying his best to still connect with his fans in SPITE of TOHME!
There WAS witnesses to TOHME's behavior with MIKE.  They cannot
hide everything.

Jermaine Jackson sees a FORTUNE in NEVERLAND, a never-ending
supply of income for estate/family if he can get Michael buried there.
HOW long was this plan?  The family even contacts Prisilla Presley
for ADVICE.  
IT will come to pass.
It's ALL right in front of you.   YOU ask where was TOHME?
He SPLIT LA and went to NEW YORK, where you can plainly see
him viewing "THE BOOK" in either July or early August 09.  That is
as long as painting on display.
I am starting to question people agenda on these forums.
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 03, 2010, 01:55:29 PM
Quote from: "Zen"
Wow is all I can say!  TOHME shadowed Mike and would not let
him out of his sight within a foot!
Michael was SCARED of TOHME!  He did not fake it, what he faked
was trying his best to still connect with his fans in SPITE of TOHME!
There WAS witnesses to TOHME's behavior with MIKE.  They cannot
hide everything.

Jermaine Jackson sees a FORTUNE in NEVERLAND, a never-ending
supply of income for estate/family if he can get Michael buried there.
HOW long was this plan?  The family even contacts Prisilla Presley
for ADVICE.  
IT will come to pass.
It's ALL right in front of you.   YOU ask where was TOHME?
He SPLIT LA and went to NEW YORK, where you can plainly see
him viewing "THE BOOK" in either July or early August 09.  That is
as long as painting on display.
I am starting to question people agenda on these forums.

Why are you questioning our agendas??  My agenda is to find the truth and not close my mind to any possibilities.  What is YOUR agenda if you are against free speech and bouncing ideas and theories?  So .. he was in NY.  Where is he now?
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: _Dangerous_ on July 03, 2010, 03:29:54 PM
Guys, Michael is not stupid, if he was mistreated by Tohme, Im sure he'd fire him
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: CC on July 03, 2010, 03:41:52 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "msteetee34"
Well I heard in an interview somewhere that Thome was brought in to help MJ by his brother Jermaine.  He helped MJ with the financial troubles with Neverland.  I think they said that Thome put up like 23 million to help MJ.  Lets not forget that Thome was also at the conference with Jermaine when MJ supposedly died.  If he was harming MJ do you think that he would have been there with Jermaine?  It could be a possibility that he was protecting MJ that's why he has such a tight guard on him.  Maybe he's just a very intense man.  I'm not saying this is a fact just an opinion.  I'm trying to see the other side of the coin.  I don't think any of the family has said anything negative about Thome.


Jermaine, Thome and DiLEo were all at the hospital together.  There is footage of them right before Jermaine makes the announcement.

Im also starting to see things from the other side now and considering that Thome may well be protecting Michael and not controlling him.

at the begining of the site someone wa stalking about the dark side of thome and i think that if this really is a hoax MJ need someone like thome and di leo to make it work, where is thome now? and dave dave, thome thome... all doubles... :?
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: Zen on July 03, 2010, 04:22:06 PM
by DancingTheDream » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:55 pm
Zen wrote:Wow is all I can say! TOHME shadowed Mike and would not let
him out of his sight within a foot!
Michael was SCARED of TOHME! He did not fake it, what he faked
was trying his best to still connect with his fans in SPITE of TOHME!
There WAS witnesses to TOHME's behavior with MIKE. They cannot
hide everything.

Jermaine Jackson sees a FORTUNE in NEVERLAND, a never-ending
supply of income for estate/family if he can get Michael buried there.
HOW long was this plan? The family even contacts Prisilla Presley
for ADVICE.  IT will come to pass.
It's ALL right in front of you. YOU ask where was TOHME?
He SPLIT LA and went to NEW YORK, where you can plainly see
him viewing "THE BOOK" in either July or early August 09. That is
as long as painting on display.
I am starting to question people agenda on these forums.


Why are you questioning our agendas?? My agenda is to find the truth and not close my mind to any possibilities. What is YOUR agenda if you are against free speech and bouncing ideas and theories? So .. he was in NY. Where is he now?

Free speech, I am for!  DancingTheDream, why do some people try to
shut up others and keep the truth from coming out?
Did you not hear some of this before June 25th, 09?
With many extended family in California around LA area things are heard
and things are said.  Do you think they say anything NOW?  Too close
to the home turf.   The Jackson brothers have not always behaved as
"nicely" as they do now that Michael is "passed".   Sometime yes, sometime
no.  The sisters have always been polite.
Michael DID try to fire Tohme, but he could not shake him.
Michael is a nice guy, and if you say LOVE, that could describe him too,
but those around him were not of this caliber.

This is ok, I will be leaving soon back to western USA, and I am sorry
my posts are infrequent and sound outburst, it is limited time on a
shared computer.  My brain and heart is sore, I feel I have defended
to worry about Michael for years and years now but they get what they
wanted.
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: Mj5StarChick on July 03, 2010, 04:22:43 PM
Quote from: "peshtishor"
we don't have any other evidence? what about the tape in which  MJ said he was afraid of him??
I have the article about Michael saying he was afraid of Thome Thome and what he was capable of :?
I am another i don't like the way he is grabbing on Michael and we know it is a tradition for Michael to wave to the fans but he probably wants him safe from that huge crowd which is the only way i could look at it different  :(  
I don't like hearing about Michael being scared of anyone because he shouldn't have to be scared of anyone or anything :cry:

I don't know how legit but here it is :(
Michael Jackson Was Afraid Of Dr. Tohme Tohme
June Gatlin who was the spiritual advisor of Michael Jackson has come forward with taped conversation in which the singer claims that he was terrified of his chief aide, Dr. Tohme Tohme.
 
Gatlin said, "He was afraid of who this man is, afraid of whatever this man may be capable of doing... He had taken over Michael's complete life”.
 
The advisor has handed over the tapes she recorded of phone conversations with Jackson in September 2008 to NBC News in America.
 
On the tapes, the King of Pop can be heard telling Gatlin, "This guy, he just... has ways about him... There's a divide between me and my representatives and I don't talk to my lawyer, my accountant. I talk to him and he talks to them. I don't like it. I wanna get somebody in there with him that I know and can trust. I don't know what's in my accounts”.
 
In return, June Gatlin advised Michael Jackson that he should investigate his manager.
 
June Gatlin told, “Michael said, 'He's (Tohme) mean, he's trying to keep me and separate me from everybody and everything that I love”.
Michael Jackson broke ties with Tohme in May (09) and sent a letter to all business associates, in which he insisted, "Dr. Tohme Tohme is no longer authorized to represent me”.
 
But, Tohme spoke on behalf of Jackson hours after he died and said, “I’m still in charge of Michael Jackson's business until otherwise I am informed not to do so (sic)”.
http://www.india-server.com/news/michae ... 11364.html (http://www.india-server.com/news/michael-jackson-was-afraid-of-dr-tohme-11364.html)
[youtube:172mu2nf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woSwDr011RE[/youtube:172mu2nf]
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 03, 2010, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: "Zen"

Free speech, I am for!  DancingTheDream, why do some people try to
shut up others and keep the truth from coming out?
Did you not hear some of this before June 25th, 09?
With many extended family in California around LA area things are heard
and things are said.  Do you think they say anything NOW?  Too close
to the home turf.   The Jackson brothers have not always behaved as
"nicely" as they do now that Michael is "passed".   Sometime yes, sometime
no.  The sisters have always been polite.
Michael DID try to fire Tohme, but he could not shake him.
Michael is a nice guy, and if you say LOVE, that could describe him too,
but those around him were not of this caliber.

This is ok, I will be leaving soon back to western USA, and I am sorry
my posts are infrequent and sound outburst, it is limited time on a
shared computer.  My brain and heart is sore, I feel I have defended
to worry about Michael for years and years now but they get what they
wanted.


They wont get what they wanted.. in the end, we will win.  I believe in that.

If Michael has died, then these bastards wont get his money, his name or his legacy.  Too many fans on the case now...  too many people are obsessed with finding the truth.

Im not a believer.. im a truth seeker.. and i have many people with me.  We all have open minds, but have one and only one agenda.. to find the truth and to defend Michael.  

Try not to be hurt.. i know this is not easy as i am also on that road.  Trust that we will win in the end. x
Title: Re: MICHAEL CONTROLLED BY TOHME???
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 03, 2010, 04:58:30 PM
I find DiLeo very shady.

Here in this video, Michael says on the tapes that he wants to get someone in that he knows and trusted.. could this be the reason DiLeo was rehired?

[youtube:2lvzu8t3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woSwDr011RE&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube:2lvzu8t3]

BUT.., if you watch the video, at the hospital... Jermaine, Dileo and Thome are all there TOGETHER.  See them near the end of the video.

And here is a picture of Thome arriving at the hospital with Randy Phillips.
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