Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Special Events & Days => General Hoax Investigation => June 25, 2010 => Topic started by: hesouttamylife on June 26, 2010, 06:55:01 PM
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Didn't Katherine say in her interview on yesterday that she never saw Michael dead? That she wanted to remember him in the happy times? Then wouldn't that contradict what has been reported that they kept Michael alive until his mother got there so she could get to see him? Is that correct or am I mistaken? This sounds like she never actually "SAW" him dead at the hospital or any place else for that matter :? .
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Everyone has their stories mixed up. One minute Janet was at this place when she heard he died, and another minute she was at this place and blah blah blah. I'll NEVER forget where I was when I heard it, so how come the family keeps changing their stories? Cause he faked his death! :o ;)
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Everyone has their stories mixed up. One minute Janet was at this place when she heard he died, and another minute she was at this place and blah blah blah. I'll NEVER forget where I was when I heard it, so how come the family keeps changing their stories? Cause he faked his death! :o ;)
yes,none of them can keep their story straight.
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Yes very true - I mean there was a whole blog on LKL yesterday about where you were the day MJ "died". I know exactly what I was doing and where I was at when I found out, and yet his own family keeps changing their stories and/or the media is of course is not reporting the right truths.... ;)
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There's another inconcistency. Someone on the 20/20 interview said that cpr was made on Michael for like an hour and he never came back. Well remember a reporter and Elizabeth Taylor said he was alive and that they revived him?
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The hardest part for me to wrap my mind around was the part of Katherine's grief concerning her child. It seems real. But now with this information, I don't know :? I could deal with lies from other family members and say, yeah right, okay. But I never felt Kate was lying or should I say faking it...until now. However, putting myself in her place, if it were my child and I had to lie thru my tears, left right backwards forward, to save his life, baby :roll: in a heartbeat. So thinking along those terms, I think at last it's on. As Dr. Murray once said DaTroot will prevail.
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Katherine and Joe both have always said that they never saw the body. They did not even see him interred.
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So Katherine was not with the kids... you would think she would be close with them... they were in Hawaii? Did anyone see the kids anywhere on the 25th with any of the family? How could she leave them alone or somewhere else on this day? Just wondering!
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this is very telling, I think. all along, i thought it was only Joe who was saying he didn't see Michael's body. but if Ms Katherine is saying now that she, too, didn't look at his body, ...well, i don't know, but i think this is good as it would prevent her from being blamed as an accessory to the hoax WHEN he finally comes back...and it sounds like he would.
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I viewed a show on celebrity deaths and just caught the end of
it. They showed excerpts of Anna Nicole's and
it show the coroner coming out and addressing the public
with findings of her death/autopsy results. He is giving the
public address.
It also show her funeral and the people had REAL tears and
look miserable and in grief.
Then, they show Michael Jackson excerpt and the only tears
they show were Paris at her speech at the memorial.
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Even I know exactly where I was and what I did when I heard about Michael's passing and I'm not even a friend of the family. I've never even met Jackson, let alone never been to his concerts - I was born in the same year he visited my country. It's unbelievable that the family can't get their stories straight.
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So Katherine was not with the kids... you would think she would be close with them... they were in Hawaii? Did anyone see the kids anywhere on the 25th with any of the family? How could she leave them alone or somewhere else on this day? Just wondering!
Where is the nanny Grace?
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What is more...Kat did state to Geraldo Revieara ..all she knows is that her son is dead. NOw..if she did not even get the courage up to see how her son may have been left to look after the "murder"..by conspiracy, as the family keeps saying..how could she be at peace,not knowing what the "conspirators "...may have done to him.
Was his mother satisfied by just a second hand report, or being told by others (by whom) that, he was looking awful and needed to be put away in closed casket.
Who then made that decision, about the closed casket...if not his own parents.The kids are minors..and they can't make that decision..and...he was not married as far as we know, though my visions persist to say he is/was madly in love with
one lucky lady...(see my other post.under i took the plunge...if interested about that ).
.Gee!!! I wish MIke would kiss and tell us about the LUcky lady. He does say in This is it...lyrics.
"falling in love was not my plan"...check it out!!!
...it seems he is really trying to tell us something there.
Did MIke write those lyrics, or did someone else. Does any one have info on that?
May be our MIke is in seventh Heaven...as in being truly in major LOve.
gives new meaning to ..."It is all for LOVe"
Check it out...maybe worth looking into...just my visionary opinion.
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I think the fact that Joe or Katherine never actually saw MJ dead does make the hoax more believeable in my eyes. I know it's would be hard to see a love one dead but I'm sorry that's their child. I think it would be different for a parent losing a child not to have the opportunity to even look at your child before they are laid to rest. I would think that she would at least look at him in the hospital room like Jermaine said he did. Also remember all those stories that came out about MJ's body being kept frozen while they were waiting to bury him. They said his mom would come there everyday to visit his body. Man so many lies.
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Wasn't it so that before the Memorial started the family and closed friends are coming together in the " Hall of Liberty" in the Forest Lawn / Hollywood Hills for a private ceremony where Michaels open casket was supposed to be ?
Wasn't it there where the kids gave Michael the gifts ?
So, the family would have be there with closed eyes ?
LaToya told that he looked so beautyfull....
Jermaine was in german TV and he told that he saw Michael in the UCLA and he gave him a last kiss and Michael looks like he was sleeping...i sadly don't can find this on youtube....it was the "Johannes B. Kerner Show " in September 2009.
Only Joe ever said that he never saw Michael dead.
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she also said no open casket cause his face was crushed form all the paramedics and hospital work.
something is going on and the lies are catching up.
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Maybe it would be a help if we would research and collect everything everyone said in the various interviews. I suspect that it might be very enlightening to put it all together. It is not just that the different stories different persons give conflict, but indeed each person seems to have changing memories. Is here anyone who would like to do this systematically as a kind of project together with me? It's such a huge pile of material any idea how to process?
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That just my point..how did the decision to bury him in closed casket come about,when his next of keen, in this case his own parents Kathrine and Joe,( the children being minors)..,according what they are saying now,only thought about themselves and how looking at their dead son might make them feel and refused to look at their beautiful son while he lay in the hospital "dead".
I mean, granted, it is hard for any parent to do so, but it is harder still, in my opinion just to turn your back and not do one of your most unpleasant duties as a parent.
Would MIchael have done that to Kathrine and even JOe..if they had happened to pass before him? I doubt that very seriously.
A good question is too, what was the private viewing all about?
I mean, even if MIke 's face was bashed in with a baseball bat,
I would think , after a nine hour make up job, he could have been made to look like as if he had just stepped out of GQ.LOL
In either case, if the family did not have any problems with letting the impressionable kids see him dead, then, what is up with all the nonsense of them not having been able to look at him dead?
May be ...Katherine being religious and all does not want to be called on a lie of having said ...she did see his body with her own two eyes.if Michael decide to make a return...and the same for Joe.
But , Jermaine is graphic in his description of Michael's body,
and so is La Toya.
If they are in on the hoax, these two have the most to gain, by helping Michael pull it through, since they are
both now back up in the limelight getting all sorts of attention and I have no doubt, busy making the dough.
Thus..they may not hesitate to cover up for MIke and say they have seen the body.Just my opinion.
So...HIs parents did not see his dead body,the rest of the world and his adoring fans, us,we did not see his dead body...and it is the "the final curtain" question
Why...
Remember, the world saw Princess Diana, James Brown, Elvis and even the Pope was laid out in an open casket for people to file by to see his dead body. It took about a week if I remember right before they closed the casket on the Pope, after thousands paid their respects.
I mean Michael beloved by millions, in a way belonged to the world as well as his own family...and he deserved a stately kind of funeral..rather than a scripted memorial that looked like it was staged.
So..in conclusion I have to say I suspect,that,
they, Mike's family,did not give the world and us fans that kind of privilege,cause , after it is all said and done,they really could not, cause,
They had no dead Body to show anybody...
Michael we love you...but, the story of your "death" just does not add up to a sum we all can agree upon.
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and remember Karen Faye did his makeup and said he looked gorgeous at first, I don't know what she's saying now. But after all that time...even to entertain an open casket is outrageous. Even if he "looked" okay, what family member would want to open up those wounds and re-live his funeral and seeing him laying in a casket for a second time? Even to suggest that the casket would be open after 2 and a half months of healing sounded far fetched to me. I never believed it would happen, for the above reasons second and first because there was no body in there to begin with :roll: . And BTW, where was it finally determined that Michael's body was kept during these 2 1/2 months? I think we need to look deeper into that. It all sounds like something out of a horror movie.
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" she also said no open casket cause his face was crushed form all the paramedics and hospital work.
something is going on and the lies are catching up."
This is a fact that something is going on!! My mother died of heart complications at home and there was not a mark on her face from the CPR, nothing.
Why do Jermaine and LaToya go on about how beautiful and soft his face looked? Jermaine said on LKL how he had his hands on his cheeks and hoe soft he was.
Just tell us the truth!! That is all we need, the lies are going to drive us to the padded rooms and coats of many buckles!
Ok ok stay calm. Perhaps this is how "they" get rid of all the nutzo people that love Michael :lol: If you love Michael we are going to drive you insane!
No way!! I know what I know and I have too many questions!
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I'm one of those nutzo people that love Michael!!!! lol. But I'm not going anywhere. I'll be nuts for Michael any day.
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There's another inconcistency. Someone on the 20/20 interview said that cpr was made on Michael for like an hour and he never came back. Well remember a reporter and Elizabeth Taylor said he was alive and that they revived him?
I heard that too.
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This is really strange to find this post, just today after watching that interview with Katherine, I thought how cold I felt after listening to her, and for her to say she never looked at him after he died, the first thought in my head was, she was protecting herself for later on, when the REAL Michael comes forward.
Don't forget....mothers will do anything to protect their children.
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Just tell us the truth!! That is all we need, the lies are going to drive us to the padded rooms and coats of many buckles!
Ok ok stay calm. Perhaps this is how "they" get rid of all the nutzo people that love Michael :lol: If you love Michael we are going to drive you insane!
No way!! I know what I know and I have too many questions!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: OMG i know right?!
Theres no way they think all these lies are going to get past EVERYBODY do they? I dont think they realize how smart we actually are ;)
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Just tell us the truth!! That is all we need, the lies are going to drive us to the padded rooms and coats of many buckles!
Ok ok stay calm. Perhaps this is how "they" get rid of all the nutzo people that love Michael :lol: If you love Michael we are going to drive you insane!
No way!! I know what I know and I have too many questions!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: OMG i know right?!
Theres no way they think all these lies are going to get past EVERYBODY do they? I dont think they realize how smart we actually are ;)
:lol: :lol: :lol: hahahaha very true.. these guys don't even know who "they" are dealing with... we are smart because we care and we love very much Michael!We work as a team of detectives and they should not underestimate our value!!!! We are much smarter :D ;)
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I hope the truth will come out soon. I hope they are protecting Michael and soon he will be back healthy and strong.
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What is more...Kat did state to Geraldo Revieara ..all she knows is that her son is dead. NOw..if she did not even get the courage up to see how her son may have been left to look after the "murder"..by conspiracy, as the family keeps saying..how could she be at peace,not knowing what the "conspirators "...may have done to him.
Was his mother satisfied by just a second hand report, or being told by others (by whom) that, he was looking awful and needed to be put away in closed casket.
Who then made that decision, about the closed casket...if not his own parents.The kids are minors..and they can't make that decision..and...he was not married as far as we know, though my visions persist to say he is/was madly in love with
one lucky lady...(see my other post.under i took the plunge...if interested about that ).
.Gee!!! I wish MIke would kiss and tell us about the LUcky lady. He does say in This is it...lyrics.
"falling in love was not my plan"...check it out!!!
...it seems he is really trying to tell us something there.
Did MIke write those lyrics, or did someone else. Does any one have info on that?
May be our MIke is in seventh Heaven...as in being truly in major LOve.
gives new meaning to ..."It is all for LOVe"
Check it out...maybe worth looking into...just my visionary opinion.
Michael Jackson co-wrote "This Is It" with Paul Anka back in the '80's. They used it for the movie for obvious reasons but apparently didn't realize Anka was involved until after the fact. He threatened to sue but they settled in the end:
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b148603 ... ksons.html (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b148603_paul_anka_gets_half_of_michael_jacksons.html)
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Im telling you... Michael was not in that damned casket.. its so bloody obvious!
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" she also said no open casket cause his face was crushed form all the paramedics and hospital work.
something is going on and the lies are catching up."
This is a fact that something is going on!! My mother died of heart complications at home and there was not a mark on her face from the CPR, nothing.
Why do Jermaine and LaToya go on about how beautiful and soft his face looked? Jermaine said on LKL how he had his hands on his cheeks and hoe soft he was.
Just tell us the truth!! That is all we need, the lies are going to drive us to the padded rooms and coats of many buckles!
Ok ok stay calm. Perhaps this is how "they" get rid of all the nutzo people that love Michael :lol: If you love Michael we are going to drive you insane!
No way!! I know what I know and I have too many questions!
Coats and buckles, somehow brings to mind the image of Michael. He wore pads & buckles all the time. Maybe Michael knew we would eventually need them so he added some style and flare to them so when it was our time to don them, we would feel right at home. :lol:
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Im telling you... Michael was not in that damned casket.. its so bloody obvious!
Now Now, calm down :mrgreen:
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she also said no open casket cause his face was crushed form all the paramedics and hospital work.
something is going on and the lies are catching up.
Where did you read this information? I haven't found it from any news source. I keep reading it on the forums, but I really haven't seen that in any legitimate interview.
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Im telling you... Michael was not in that damned casket.. its so bloody obvious!
Now Now, calm down :mrgreen:
:lol: :lol: :lol: My head is exploding.
Im going out with my friend tomorrow night.. a friend from home who has no interest in all this. I just want to sit and talk to people like us. How will i cope? lol
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I just think that when this is all over we`re going to sit around and talk, laugh and cry about how we could have taken all of this so seriously, when it`s obviously riddled with inconsistencies, impossibilities, and illogical details. IMO Michael has planned all of this. What a huge challenge it is for the Jackson`s to be in sync with each other, when there is no dead body. Clues like, he felt soft, looked beautiful, like he was sleeping are pointing to him being alive!!
There`s no parents in the world that wouldn`t spend a good chunk of time gazing upon their child, knowing that will be it before the body goes in the ground.
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jermaine never mentioned any damage when talking with larry king.
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Didn't Katherine say in her interview on yesterday that she never saw Michael dead? That she wanted to remember him in the happy times? Then wouldn't that contradict what has been reported that they kept Michael alive until his mother got there so she could get to see him? Is that correct or am I mistaken? This sounds like she never actually "SAW" him dead at the hospital or any place else for that matter :? .
Mother is trying to keep her bible clutched as close to her bosom as she possibly can. She's a God-fearing woman who is probably trying to find a way to be honest in spite of the fact that this is all a huge lie. Whether it was MJ lying there pretending, or they'd used a double or the mannequin from GHOST, I don't think she had the desire to see any of it. It's all pretty jarring for a parent, wouldn't you say? She and Joe never saw his corpse because he isn't dead. :lol:
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"Coats and buckles, somehow brings to mind the image of Michael. He wore pads & buckles all the time. Maybe Michael knew we would eventually need them so he added some style and flare to them so when it was our time to don them, we would feel right at home. :lol:"
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I'm so sorry I didn't go back to check this thread! Some good posts!
Oh Thank You Michael for adding so much style to our new apparel! I have to get fitted with a new jacket soon! I wore the buckles right off my old one! :lol:
Yes it will take a lot to take this group down. ~We ARE WISE TO ALL YOUR LIES!~
We have the new livingroom all padded now, lots of room so pull up a chair and watch those practicing their "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" dance!
Heeheehee! We are right beside you Michael!! We'll never give up!
Who's bad??
WE BAD!!
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They are protecting him from harm. But the truth will all come out.
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I am sure i have read somwere on this forum,that kathrine and joe,were arguing over michaels body(i mean arguing while the body was there in the room),i just remember reading somthing like that,does anyone else remember this. :? :?