Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => TIAI & TS Discussions => Topic started by: whosbadmjsbad on June 26, 2010, 10:39:46 AM
-
So do yall think he is a fake now?? Also he said that his latest post would be the last before the BAM....What do yall think about that?? SEE YOU IN JULY??
-
I'm trying to hold back!
I'll save this as a [place holder] in case I want to edit later :twisted:
-
TS never said that there would bea Bam in June. He said Maybe they might be a Bam. He said it depends on whether or not Michael is ready to Bam.
And i hate to be an ass here, but its not just about Michael coming back. There is without a doubt a much more serious end to this spectrum, and that could very well indeed involve Michaels life. If Michael is in some kind of a program to keep him safe, then he is limited to the amount of things he can do, and where he can move about to. We all know Michael was a wanted man by many evil people.
And i feel that this Hoax is not only a way for Michael to warn us off the bad in this world, but as sort of a personal revenge on the people who have been out to get him, and also a way for him to pull the wool over the media's eyes. Michael isn't a stupid person, and when he's ready he will certainly let us know.
Remember, Michael owes us Nothing.
-
Omg so many threads about TS already.........................
-
Sorry, I just wanted to know what yall think of him.... On a blog that I read there was a TS debunking section....
-
TS said the #7 update won't/most likely be b4 the BAM..
-
Sorry, I just wanted to know what yall think of him.... On a blog that I read there was a TS debunking section....
LMAO, I would like to read that, could you give me a link?
TS never said BAM would be on June 25, BoW did. Update 6 would probably be tha last before the bam, but he didn't say when the bam will be.
-
Off topic but yesterday BOW was debunked once again..
She said it would be the "bamsday" and it wasn't. I wonder what excuse did she make up this time :roll:
EDIT: Aww, Souza you were faster lol
-
here you go: There are kinda mean towards this forum though
http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010 ... lshit.html (http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010/06/tiai-revealed-as-bullshit.html)
-
here you go: There are kinda mean towards this forum though
http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010 ... lshit.html (http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010/06/tiai-revealed-as-bullshit.html)
Oh, the doggie! I don't even have to read it to say that the doggie probably hasn't done his homework properly. :lol:
-
do you believe TS Souza??
-
do you believe TS Souza??
100%
-
so if he says MIke will come back in JUly you believe it??
-
so if he says MIke will come back in JUly you believe it??
He didn't say Mike will return in July to my best knowledge, he said it's a propability. Besides that I am not focussed on a bamsday, I am focussed on the message Mike is trying to send out, but is still widely ignored by believers and non-believers. As long as people will keep their eyes closed for the truth, Mike might not even be able to bam. TS has been pointing out how this is all planned, for years and years. He has predicted enough that came true. Yet people are believing BoW who is contradicting herself so much and changes her story all the time. Now MJ didn't bam yesterday, I am sure she has a new explanation for her failure.
TS wrote almost 70.000 words, only on this forum, with actual proof his words in earlier posts were genuine. People should start reading it and see what this hoax is really all about. As long as people won't see what's right in front of their eyes, Mike can't bam. Luckily more and more people are starting to see it now.
-
TS is another idiot who tells bullshit, maybe? There's no such thing as "maybe" if you know the date of BAM. Some people are so gullible, its not even funny
-
TS never said that there would bea Bam in June. He said Maybe they might be a Bam. He said it depends on whether or not Michael is ready to Bam.
And i hate to be an ass here, but its not just about Michael coming back. There is without a doubt a much more serious end to this spectrum, and that could very well indeed involve Michaels life. If Michael is in some kind of a program to keep him safe, then he is limited to the amount of things he can do, and where he can move about to. We all know Michael was a wanted man by many evil people.
And i feel that this Hoax is not only a way for Michael to warn us off the bad in this world, but as sort of a personal revenge on the people who have been out to get him, and also a way for him to pull the wool over the media's eyes. Michael isn't a stupid person, and when he's ready he will certainly let us know.
Remember, Michael owes us Nothing.
Perfectly said. Love it. :D
-
here you go: There are kinda mean towards this forum though
http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010 ... lshit.html (http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010/06/tiai-revealed-as-bullshit.html)
Exactly, he/she is bullshit and people are gulible to actually beileve a unknown person on twitter
-
Yet people are believing BoW who is contradicting herself so much and changes her story all the time. Now MJ didn't bam yesterday, I am sure she has a new explanation for her failure.
Oh, yes! she said that Michael is unpredictible......so it´s Michael´s fault :roll:
TS wrote almost 70.000 words, only on this forum, with actual proof his words in earlier posts were genuine. People should start reading it and see what this hoax is really all about. As long as people won't see what's right in front of their eyes, Mike can't bam. Luckily more and more people are starting to see it now.
What is it there to see with so many distractions all around?
People getting crazier by the second, people deeply hurt and getting in deep sadness again...TMZ being ambiguous making fun of believers, Randy´s bodyguard saying "Randy changed game plan"
As I mentioned many times, if people are not getting the "message" is not because they are not wise or intelligent, it is may be because the messenger is not doing a good job getting it out properly for every 1 to understand.
-
although i highly believe he is alive, i dont think he'll come back. whats the point of such an elaborated planned hoax with him giving us clues.
Could the 'bam' in this is it mean something else?
so if he says MIke will come back in JUly you believe it??
He didn't say Mike will return in July to my best knowledge, he said it's a propability. Besides that I am not focussed on a bamsday, I am focussed on the message Mike is trying to send out, but is still widely ignored by believers and non-believers. As long as people will keep their eyes closed for the truth, Mike might not even be able to bam. TS has been pointing out how this is all planned, for years and years. He has predicted enough that came true. Yet people are believing BoW who is contradicting herself so much and changes her story all the time. Now MJ didn't bam yesterday, I am sure she has a new explanation for her failure.
TS wrote almost 70.000 words, only on this forum, with actual proof his words in earlier posts were genuine. People should start reading it and see what this hoax is really all about. As long as people won't see what's right in front of their eyes, Mike can't bam. Luckily more and more people are starting to see it now.
-
although i highly believe he is alive, i dont think he'll come back. whats the point of such an elaborated planned hoax with him giving us clues.
Could the 'bam' in this is it mean something else?
BUT whats the point of an elaborate hoax WITHOUT a comeback??
so if he says MIke will come back in JUly you believe it??
He didn't say Mike will return in July to my best knowledge, he said it's a propability. Besides that I am not focussed on a bamsday, I am focussed on the message Mike is trying to send out, but is still widely ignored by believers and non-believers. As long as people will keep their eyes closed for the truth, Mike might not even be able to bam. TS has been pointing out how this is all planned, for years and years. He has predicted enough that came true. Yet people are believing BoW who is contradicting herself so much and changes her story all the time. Now MJ didn't bam yesterday, I am sure she has a new explanation for her failure.
TS wrote almost 70.000 words, only on this forum, with actual proof his words in earlier posts were genuine. People should start reading it and see what this hoax is really all about. As long as people won't see what's right in front of their eyes, Mike can't bam. Luckily more and more people are starting to see it now.
-
although i highly believe he is alive, i dont think he'll come back. whats the point of such an elaborated planned hoax with him giving us clues.
Could the 'bam' in this is it mean something else?
so if he says MIke will come back in JUly you believe it??
He didn't say Mike will return in July to my best knowledge, he said it's a propability. Besides that I am not focussed on a bamsday, I am focussed on the message Mike is trying to send out, but is still widely ignored by believers and non-believers. As long as people will keep their eyes closed for the truth, Mike might not even be able to bam. TS has been pointing out how this is all planned, for years and years. He has predicted enough that came true. Yet people are believing BoW who is contradicting herself so much and changes her story all the time. Now MJ didn't bam yesterday, I am sure she has a new explanation for her failure.
TS wrote almost 70.000 words, only on this forum, with actual proof his words in earlier posts were genuine. People should start reading it and see what this hoax is really all about. As long as people won't see what's right in front of their eyes, Mike can't bam. Luckily more and more people are starting to see it now.
-
Yet people are believing BoW who is contradicting herself so much and changes her story all the time. Now MJ didn't bam yesterday, I am sure she has a new explanation for her failure.
Oh, yes! she said that Michael is unpredictible......so it´s Michael´s fault :roll:
TS wrote almost 70.000 words, only on this forum, with actual proof his words in earlier posts were genuine. People should start reading it and see what this hoax is really all about. As long as people won't see what's right in front of their eyes, Mike can't bam. Luckily more and more people are starting to see it now.
What is it there to see with so many distractions all around?
People getting crazier by the second, people deeply hurt and getting in deep sadness again...TMZ being ambiguous making fun of believers, Randy´s bodyguard saying "Randy changed game plan"
As I mentioned many times, if people are not getting the "message" is not because they are not wise or intelligent, it is may be because the messenger is not doing a good job getting it out properly for every 1 to understand.
I think all the "weird" stuff coming out is beginning to make people wonder, I was on the blogg on TMZ livestream last night and people are beginning to wonder and think things are odd. I spent ages posting links to ElvisandMJ.com and if they wouldnt take that because the dont understand Elvis connection at first glance I posted link to here also Thisisalso it. I hope that might have sown a sead.
Im in the UK even had a conversation with a customer of my business and we were discussing how odd all the goings on are, at least one person is thinking about it since I spoke this am, I will keep spreading the message.
-
You guys really don't know who TS is by now? lol not a HE.
-
Do not beileve erything you see on the internet! BOW/TS/TIAI and so on are BS even the whole hoax idea is so full of BS.. Sorry I am very angry today about the fact how blindly people do believe everything what gives them just a slight hope!
-
You guys really don't know who TS is by now? lol not a HE.
Who is it then?? MIchael??
-
You guys really don't know who TS is by now? lol not a HE.
Who is it then?? MIchael??
I just said it's not a he.
I'm not saying who I don't want to be banned lmfao
-
You guys really don't know who TS is by now? lol not a HE.
Who is it then?? MIchael??
I just said it's not a he.
I'm not saying who I don't want to be banned lmfao
;)
-
You guys really don't know who TS is by now? lol not a HE.
Who is it then?? MIchael??
I just said it's not a he.
I'm not saying who I don't want to be banned lmfao
Oh SEHF, you still think it's one of us? :roll:
-
You guys really don't know who TS is by now? lol not a HE.
Who is it then?? MIchael??
I just said it's not a he.
I'm not saying who I don't want to be banned lmfao
Oh SEHF, you still think it's one of us? :roll:
This is a trick question!
I'm hiding now.
-
You guys really don't know who TS is by now? lol not a HE.
Who is it then?? MIchael??
I just said it's not a he.
I'm not saying who I don't want to be banned lmfao
Oh SEHF, you still think it's one of us? :roll:
This is a trick question!
I'm hiding now.
What?!
-
Has this got something to do with the Galactic Federation? I've seen the initials
TS on an online petition, however they're transposed: ST (mirror image??)
Just throwing it out there guys ;)
-
So do yall think he is a fake now?? Also he said that his latest post would be the last before the BAM....What do yall think about that?? SEE YOU IN JULY??
in his/her defense I have to say that this person is really intelligent and I don't know how everything that he/she says is correct, this person know something or is really smart
-
i'm going to step in it here a little. i have not really invested much time in the tiai redirect stuff. i also realize that no one here knows me any better than they do anyone else here.but when someone suggest that people send them a tithe that is something for me personally that would make me step back and take anothere look at things.i have been raised in church but even when they put too much focus on that i get leary let alone someone over the internet.just my take sorry if anyone is offended.
-
i'm going to step in it here a little. i have not really invested much time in the tiai redirect stuff. i also realize that no one here knows me any better than they do anyone else here.but when someone suggest that people send them a tithe that is something for me personally that would make me step back and take anothere look at things.i have been raised in church but even when they put too much focus on that i get leary let alone someone over the internet.just my take sorry if anyone is offended.
But who asked for money? I am not sure what you mean by this post.
-
Well, I believe in TS 100%
-
You guys really don't know who TS is by now? lol not a HE.
I want to know who I waaant (http://serve.mysmiley.net/party/party0011.gif)
-
Well, I believe in TS 100%
Helloooo (http://serve.mysmiley.net/love/love0073.gif)
-
i'm going to step in it here a little. i have not really invested much time in the tiai redirect stuff. i also realize that no one here knows me any better than they do anyone else here.but when someone suggest that people send them a tithe that is something for me personally that would make me step back and take anothere look at things.i have been raised in church but even when they put too much focus on that i get leary let alone someone over the internet.just my take sorry if anyone is offended.
But who asked for money? I am not sure what you mean by this post.
maybe i am wrong but i thought i read in on of the statement from the beginning post that the person said something about sending tithe and donations. i would go back and reread it myself but i am weary at the moment. if you read it again maybe you will catch if it's there if not . i stand corrected. i myself don't have the computer skills to just cut that part out and it here. sorry :oops:
-
i'm going to step in it here a little. i have not really invested much time in the tiai redirect stuff. i also realize that no one here knows me any better than they do anyone else here.but when someone suggest that people send them a tithe that is something for me personally that would make me step back and take anothere look at things.i have been raised in church but even when they put too much focus on that i get leary let alone someone over the internet.just my take sorry if anyone is offended.
But who asked for money? I am not sure what you mean by this post.
maybe i am wrong but i thought i read in on of the statement from the beginning post that the person said something about sending tithe and donations. i would go back and reread it myself but i am weary at the moment. if you read it again maybe you will catch if it's there if not . i stand corrected. i myself don't have the computer skills to just cut that part out and it here. sorry :oops:
No the first post in this thread says:
So do yall think he is a fake now?? Also he said that his latest post would be the last before the BAM....What do yall think about that?? SEE YOU IN JULY??
TS never asked for any money or anything like that. In the updates by TS, it is explained why TIAI redirects to the sites it does and other related things about the hoax but nothing about wanting a tithe.
-
So do yall think he is a fake now?? Also he said that his latest post would be the last before the BAM....What do yall think about that?? SEE YOU IN JULY??
I am sad to see all these threads about TS popping up lately.
First of all - if TS would say who he was, would you believe him, or would you jump on his again saying he's most likely lying? Suppose TS is one of Mike's faithful friends - do you remember what Mike said in the interview with Geraldo..?
GR: Do you rely on friends? Have people stayed with you through thick and thin? Who are your best friends?
MJ: My children, my family, my brothers and my sisters and yeah, most people have. Most people have.
GR: Do you want to mention the names of the true blue?
MJ: The faithful, you wouldn’t know them so, it’s uh…
Much more important than TS' identity is what he pointed out, something that has been overlooked for many years - Michael Jackson's Message! There's no way you can deny that this has been Mike's message for many years, as he wrote, spoke and sang about it.
It's time to start focusing on The Message and act upon it, instead of criticizing someone who has done so much work and still puts in so much effort into it. Just take a critical look at yourself and wonder what you have done so far to help Mike. He hoaxed his death for you as well, remember?
-
I still believe in TS. Mainly because what they say makes sense, they're putting Michael's message out, and they aren't trying to shove they're idea's in anyone's face. (When I say that I mean they aren't going all over the internet posting they're ideas. I think we're kind of doing that for them though.) They aren't making stupid predictions, and what they are doing is based on things that have happened or what people close to Michael have said, and that we've heard, no just some "insider" who we've never seen or have no words from (Like Whats her face...Gretchen or whatever her name was. I don't remember her name. :oops: ) Sure, we may not know who TS really is, but so what? That's not whats important. The info, messages, and time they're putting into this is what matters.
-
@serenity ; http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010 ... lshit.html (http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010/06/tiai-revealed-as-bullshit.html)
here on the other site where the person is repeating the things that ts posted :|
-
@serenity ; http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010 ... lshit.html (http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010/06/tiai-revealed-as-bullshit.html)
here on the other site where the person is repeating the things that ts posted :|
They are trying to discredit the TS that posts here by saying that he is Tim Simkins, from a site called study.com or something. We don't know that this really TS or not, this is just one theory of several, not fact. Each of us has to decide what/whom we choose to believe for ourselves.
-
@serenity ; http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010 ... lshit.html (http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/2010/06/tiai-revealed-as-bullshit.html)
here on the other site where the person is repeating the things that ts posted :|
They are trying to discredit the TS that posts here by saying that he is Tim Simkins, from a site called study.com or something. We don't know that this really TS or not, this is just one theory of several, not fact. Each of us has to decide what/whom we choose to believe for ourselves.
oh so this tim simkins ask for it then , is that what you are saying. but we still don't know if this person is or isn't him. i'm just saying be careful .L.O.V.E.
-
I'm going to quote myself from another 'questioning TS' thread:
Hello everybody.
As the other post was locked, I thought to make a new post where we can talk and discuss about TIAI. I'm personally not that sure if TS is legit. I don't say that I don't like or disagree with what TS writes. I agree with his theories 70%. I was very impressed when he made the post about 1998 code etc. But the information is NOT the only thing that makes someone a FAKE. If someone can NOT prove the identitiy he/she/they claim/claims, that makes that person a FAKE too! TS keeps on saying that he KNOWS about the hoax and he mentioned that he's related with the Jacksons because Jacksons made that "revealed" tweet for TIAI, right? But when we ask him to tell Jacksons to write "This is also it" on their Twitter, he says he doesn't have anything to prove. On the contrary I believe that he does need that. Not ONLY for us to believe in him but also for us to spread Michael's message easily. If he was really related to Michael and the Jacksons, and if there was a message to be spread out, would he ask from the Jacksons to do it or not? Would Michael want TS to prove his relation with the Jacksons or not? If this's all about the message, then what is he waiting for?{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=11733&start=0}
"But the information is NOT the only thing that makes someone a FAKE. If someone can NOT prove the identitiy he/she/they claim/claims, that makes that person a FAKE too!"
One: I would like to see you debunk the info TS gave us. No one succeeded so far, but if you can, please share.
Two: TS never claimed to be anyone. Like he said himself: it's not important, the info is important, and if he told you you wouldn't believe him anyway.
Three: You can't expect the Jacksons to tweet whatever you like. Also their tweets are part of Mike's plan. Besides that, if they would tweet about thisisalsoit.com, they could as well say plain out that this is a hoax.
Mike wants you to believe. He wants you to read the info given and think for yourself. Does he need to come on a webcam before you will start to believe TS is legit and not fucking with the hoaxers? What more can he do while staying hidden? Don't you think that if he hoaxed his death and wanted his message out without being able to speak out himself, he would plant seeds? Why is that so hard to believe? Don't you tink he visits the forum? Or one of the other Jacksons?
I never underestimated the information he has given but I see many smart people make very interesting, smart posts. I haven't found anything special in his/her posts than a smart one makes. What prediction did he make except the thing in TII? And we all had predicted those things before he did, there was nothing new! Ohh wait, he/she found 77 days later and 7 days later it's the 9.9.9. But without the reckoning system it makes 71 days and the ambulance's number was 71 too. So I'm sure that we can find different theories about it. Also the hoax video makers find such amazing things too. Are they all insiders?{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=11733&start=0}
I don't consider myself as being highly intelligent, but I'm not stupid either. Yet I'm in awe everytime I read the updates, or STUDY's posts back at the old MJHD. He provides information that makes sense and can be verified. There hasn't been anything yet in his posts that can be debunked. This has nothing to do with intelligence, this means he has knowledge about the hoax. Whoever he is, I am certain he is close to Mike.
And yeah, he makes posts and then TMZ make same kind of posts, but we all know that TMZ is reading the forum. They possibly read TS' updates and make news. They use all of our words not only TS'.
Ts told us that TMZ is giving us clues about Michael but if you watched Jermaine's last interview with LK, he said that family is NOT happy with what TMZ is doing! So, why would Jermaine say this if TMZ is really in on the hoax?{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=11733&start=0}
Don't you think it's weird by itself that Jermaine only mentions TMZ? What about the Sun? Or Radar Online? Or ET online? TMZ was not the one posting the gay story for the first time. But TMZ has a link to this website on their page since June 25. Did it occur to you that Jermaine mentioned TMZ to get people to TMZ.com and maybe see the link to this website?
TS wrote that very few are involved with the hoax but I totally disagree with that. I see many celebrities started to talk about Michael is alive like Akon. I do believe that Usher, Puff Diddy, Black Eyed Peas, Beyonce even maybe GAGA are in on the hoax. Larry King, Mac Culkin, Elizabeth Taylor and the list goes on! So how can a "few" people involve in the hoax?{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=11733&start=0}
Not everyone is involved in the hoax, it's not possible to let everyone sign confidentiality agreements. To me only the people working with him on TII and the people at the staged funeral are in, they have signed contracts and confidentiality agreements. Maybe one or two at FBI/UCLA/LAPD and the coroner's office and that's it.
He didn't say anything to us about the coming hearings, he never says anything about what's going to happen after all, he never tells us what's the role of the siblings or friends in this hoax. He just says "Don't lose hope whatever happens" yeah nice words... Why does he know nothing about the BAMsday? He keeps on delaying it, and when it doesn't happen he tries to save the day and write "I didn't use the word Bamsday but I used Return" yeah right! I'm sure that I can find many more things why I think that he may not be legit.{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=11733&start=0}
If TS would tell you plain out in advance what will happen in this hoax, would you still pay that much attention? If TS would tell you know Mike would return on a certain date, would you still keep investigating? No. You would lay back and wait for that date to come. That's not part of the plan, Mike needs us to dig and pay attention. TS mentioned enough things in advance that did came true.
Pls feel free to share your opinions. BUT don't forget that I've already written I agree with his theories 70-80%. All I'm saying is, the information he gives doesn't prove that he's related with Michael. He can be a smart investigator. I do NOT care who he is, his name etc but I do care if he's seriously related with Michael, because he could be giving false hope to people about the BAMSDAY! What if Michael is never ever going to come back. What would you feel about it? Just keep in mind all possibilities. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=11733&start=0}
TS never gave false hope about bamsday, because TS never mentioned when bamsday will be. And he won't either because of the reasons mentioned above, so don't count on that. And apparently you do care who he is, because you want him to say who he is, because else you think he is just another fake.
Like Mike asked us:
"Give me your all, your endurance, your patience and your understanding. But it's an adventure, it's a great adventure. It's nothing to be nervous about. So give your all. And I love you all. And we're a family."
Now it's up to us to stand firmly behind him, trust in him and believe, even though we don't see him. I trust in him and I am 100% sure that TS is someone we can trust, if you would only believe...
-
:P