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Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: mjmjmj on June 23, 2010, 04:33:40 PM

Title: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mjmjmj on June 23, 2010, 04:33:40 PM
I have called FL again, and this is what they said.
i asked them if there will be any sort of event at FL.
and they said no! they said all the news reports are false, and i told them that a friends of mine called them to require about mj's body, and FL responded, that they don't have MJ'S BODY and never had it.
and the guy told me that they were responding to enquiries according to what the JACKSON FAMILY wanted them to respond, this was then and this is now he said.
he said that they are responding according to what the Jackson Family want them to say.

they also said that FL will be opened, but access to the grave is forbidden,
he told me that the JACKSON FAMILY don't want anyone closed to where michael Grave is.
You can call him if you want If you don't believe me .

CALL THERE , HIS NAME IS CLIFFORD.
ASK for CLIFFORD.
Ask him about The event etc...

Phone
1-800-204-3131

International
1-323-254-3131
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Mj5StarChick on June 23, 2010, 04:36:30 PM
WOW :shock: ! thanks for calling and sharing this info ;)
Soo wait they said they never had Michael's body :? ???
Am i reading that right :shock: ???
This is interesting really it is and nothing is going on?!?!?!
Wow talk about these hoaxes these days i tell ya ;)  :shock:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: billiejean17 on June 23, 2010, 04:37:11 PM
They never had Michael's body?
that's because he's ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Angelina on June 23, 2010, 04:37:26 PM
Quote from: "mjmjmj"
FL responded, that they don't have MJ'S BODY and never had it.

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Loud on June 23, 2010, 04:39:05 PM
Quote from: "mjmjmj"
I have called FL again, and this is what they said.
i asked them if there will be any sort of event at FL.
and they said no! they said all the news reports are false, and i told them that a friends of mine called them to require about mj's body, and FL responded, that they don't have MJ'S BODY and never had it.
and the guy told me that they were responding to enquiries according to what the JACKSON FAMILY wanted them to respond, this was then and this is now he said.
he said that they are responding according to what the Jackson Family want them to say.

they also said that FL will be opened, but access to the grave is forbidden,
he told me that the JACKSON FAMILY don't want anyone closed to where michael Grave is.


You can call him if you want If you don't believe me .



So does this mean  that his body is somewhere but not at FL could this be the case? I see a contradiction betweet what is mentioned above and in the last sentence. What is wrog here,please explain maybe I misunderstand this contradiction :geek:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: *Mo* on June 23, 2010, 04:40:58 PM

I think that mjmjmj means that Forest Lawn said that they don't have MJ'S BODY and never had it as requested by the Jacksons.  The Jacksons asked them to give that answer.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mumof3 on June 23, 2010, 04:42:34 PM
its odd that they say that now very interesting
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: MissG on June 23, 2010, 04:43:23 PM
So the media made that up Clifford say  :?  and also the Jackson don´t want people close to MJ? O_________________O
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mjmjmj on June 23, 2010, 04:57:04 PM
Pretty much, CLIFFORD told me after i reminded him that my friend has called, and asked where MJ's Body is.
 and now he is saying that the Jackson family don't want anyone anywhere near the grave?
and he said that he is only responding according to what the Jackson family want them ( FL ) to say.
 so in other words when my friend called FL to ask about MJ's body whereabout, the Jackson family had already told FL " if anyone ask you about MJ'S BODY tell them that you never had his body.
now what he ( CLIFFORD ) is telling me is this was then n and this is now,
the Now is : The Jackson family does not want anyone near MJ's grave, there will be no event, the fans can come as usual but they will not have access to the grave inside the mausoleum because it is what the Jackson family told them to.
the Jackson family according to CLIFFORD  does not want anyone near the grave.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: bliss1712 on June 23, 2010, 05:12:27 PM
I emailed FL regarding this matter today too..this was their reply....


"Thank-You. Intially when Michael Jackson passed away no information
was given out to the public that Michael Jackson was under our care per the wishes of the Family.
Michael Jackson was under our care and is interred here at Forest Lawn Memorial Park-Glendale. There
should be no confusion about that!  Thank-You!"
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Loud on June 23, 2010, 05:15:38 PM
Quote from: "bliss1712"
I emailed FL regarding this matter today too..this was their reply....


"Thank-You. Intially when Michael Jackson passed away no information
was given out to the public that Michael Jackson was under our care per the wishes of the Family.
Michael Jackson was under our care and is interred here at Forest Lawn Memorial Park-Glendale. There
should be no confusion about that!  Thank-You!"

Here we go again! Thank you bliss1712 to clarify this situation!
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on June 23, 2010, 05:16:40 PM
I'm confused and dizzy.... I think I must puke...  :shock:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 23, 2010, 05:25:29 PM
:shock:  :shock: WTH?  Is he there or not :?  :?  :?  Seems a simple enough question that would have only ONE answer.  Maybe does not fit the scenario. This sounds like a lot of baloney :shock:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Mj5StarChick on June 23, 2010, 05:27:08 PM
Wow so we are going in circles now so which is it :| !?!?! They had his body or not :geek: !?!!? Somebody's not telling the truth....A-GAIN :?
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Loud on June 23, 2010, 05:33:05 PM
To my understanding they have the body but the family do not want the fans to visit his grave! :?
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mjmjmj on June 23, 2010, 05:34:03 PM
so this is what the Jackson family is telling them to say.
 Michael is interred there.
well! they are Saying what they are being told to say.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: samsuperb on June 23, 2010, 05:41:40 PM
when was this, when did you send them a email? and when did thwy reply back to you?
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: AvaMarie on June 23, 2010, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: "Mj5StarChick"
Wow so we are going in circles now so which is it :| !?!?! They had his body or not :geek: !?!!? Somebody's not telling the truth....A-GAIN :?
                    I feel the same we are going in circles. Either they have his body or not.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: gardenrose on June 23, 2010, 06:16:48 PM
It sounds like in the beginning, they were being told by the Jackson family to tell people Michael was not interned there.
Now that everything has long been out in the open about where Michael is supposed to be, it is now safe, according to the Jackson family, to let people know that Michael is indeed there.

The confusing part for me is, why would the Jackson family tell FL to lie to people when it was clear that was where Michael was supposed to be?  If I remember correctly some people had asked FL if Michael was there AFTER the funeral, and were told Michael was not there.  Why would the Jackson's continue to try and keep it a secret after a televised funeral AT FL for Michael?
Doesn't make any sense.  :?:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 23, 2010, 06:18:29 PM
Quote from: "bliss1712"
I emailed FL regarding this matter today too..this was their reply....


"Thank-You. Intially when Michael Jackson passed away no information
was given out to the public that Michael Jackson was under our care per the wishes of the Family.
Michael Jackson was under our care and is interred here at Forest Lawn Memorial Park-Glendale. There
should be no confusion about that!  Thank-You!"


LOL, now wouldn't that be a good batcave? Bodyguard in front of the 'mansion', no one can enter, no one would think about it and you get fresh flowers now and then!

It would also explain why sometimes MJ is interred there, sometimes he isn't. I mean he needs to get some fresh air once in a while!  :lol:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mrbigshot on June 23, 2010, 06:27:31 PM
This was the same issue that was proposed by fellow death hoax investigator Tom Pickering who called forest lawn one day and got the same exact response as the first post indicates. Not sure what his opinion was about the matter, but you can find this call and his explanation on his "codeofthriller" account in either death hoax videos he uploaded.

As for the email, I would assume that the response is far from accurate and it is not in there policy to discuss who is interred where and why. The biggest issue is the difference between phone and email. Email is indirect and it is way too easy to mislead an audience or potential individual into thinking one thing, whereas it is a bit more difficult on the phone to do such an act. I think it just could be for legality reasons that when you call, you'll be able to find out who is on the other end of the line, and if they are telling you one thing, they could find themselves in a lot of trouble, but this is only a guess. I'm no lawyer nor do I understand the legal system completely, but something tells me that this particular incident is fishy, meaning, I wholeheartedly believe that the man on the phone was telling the truth whereas the email was just a fib.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Pheebzz on June 23, 2010, 06:30:37 PM
I called them a few minutes ago. Mr.Clifford is going home right now and i ask my questions to the lady on the phone.
she told me that only the family is allowed to visit the grave.
and i asked her if michaels body really buried there and she said: yes it is!

sorry for my bad grammar

i'm confused and i feel lost now
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mjmjmj on June 23, 2010, 06:35:33 PM
Wow! they didn't even let you talk to mr CLIFFORD?
well.
 let me put it this way.
 this week is gonna be the following:
MICHAEL is dead.
 it's memorial time.
this drive sales for whatever he is selling, especially at this time.
 people wanna have a piece of him.
so it is good marketing strategy for them to tell Forest Lawn if anyone asks you if MJ is at FL you say yes he is.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mrbigshot on June 23, 2010, 06:38:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/CodeOfThril ... WgRkGpVtlg (http://www.youtube.com/user/CodeOfThriller#p/a/u/1/pWgRkGpVtlg)

I suggest people watch his videos.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 23, 2010, 06:42:05 PM
Guest list at Michael's Memorial leaked out, it includes Diana Ross, Lionel Ritchie, Quincey Jones and Stevie Wonder and Brooke Shields. :shock:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Pheebzz on June 23, 2010, 06:47:54 PM
Quote from: "mjmjmj"
Wow! they didn't even let you talk to mr CLIFFORD?
well.
 let me put it this way.
 this week is gonna be the following:
MICHAEL is dead.
 it's memorial time.
this drive sales for whatever he is selling, especially at this time.
 people wanna have a piece of him.
so it is good marketing strategy for them to tell Forest Lawn if anyone asks you if MJ is at FL you say yes he is.

she tells me that mr. clifford is going at home.
i think they are all part of this hoax. don't wanna lose my faith! its late here in germany. i'll going to my bed. good night everybody
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mjmjmj on June 23, 2010, 06:56:39 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
Guest list at Michael's Memorial leaked out, it includes Diana Ross, Lionel Ritchie, Quincey Jones and Stevie Wonder and Brooke Shields. :shock:
and ?
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: samsuperb on June 23, 2010, 06:57:51 PM
Quote from: "mjmjmj"
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
Guest list at Michael's Memorial leaked out, it includes Diana Ross, Lionel Ritchie, Quincey Jones and Stevie Wonder and Brooke Shields. :shock:
and ?
:lol:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mjmjmj on June 23, 2010, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: "samsuperb"
Quote from: "mjmjmj"
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
Guest list at Michael's Memorial leaked out, it includes Diana Ross, Lionel Ritchie, Quincey Jones and Stevie Wonder and Brooke Shields. :shock:
and ?
:lol:
:?  :lol:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 23, 2010, 07:30:07 PM
right :lol: This was announced on ET Tonight??  I'm like are they re-capping or are they saying they are going to be appearing at Forest Lawn on Friday?  Did anyone else watch it?  It was like a one minute blurb. :?
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: a18wheelslady on June 23, 2010, 07:33:39 PM
I just called and ask to speak to him and they said he was gone. So I told them that I wanted to come out to pay my respects on Friday. She said ok.
I also wanted to know what they were going to allow. She stated that the fans can come in and place there flowers in front of the Mausoleum and stand for a few minuts.I told her that I was reading some place that Michael’s body was not there and that they
Only said that it because the family wanted them to. She then said we would never do that because that is not our policy.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: luchy on June 23, 2010, 08:07:52 PM
read the story in Brazil

''June 25, 2009. Thursday was a hellish one of the best hospitals in the world, the University of California at Los Angeles. On that day, one of 45 emergency beds was occupied by a patient superilustre: Michael Jackson. The pediatric residents, who teaches and attends the university, Karin Nielsen (Brazilian female doctor working in a hospital UCLA), was directly affected by the chaos.
 Karin said in the video who worked in the building behind it and the riot was in the building opposite
"The day that Michael Jackson was in the main building there was a riot because the fire alarm rang in the building. And they were all evacuated - patients, doctors, nurses, descended the stairs and the street was filled with people. Firefighters were here too, and several cars of the press. Nobody knew what was going on. The fire alarm sounded, it was a fire, right? Then everybody went there, the helicopters ... But there was Michael Jackson's music playing and the press and some people crying. That's when we realized of what was happening. There was no fire. was a false alarm, "she recalls.

To this day no one knows why the alarm playback. Already on the reasons that led to the death of Michael Jackson, then yes, there are many clues.

The accused is Conrad Murray, hired for $ 250 000 per month to be the singer's personal physician. Drama that can destroy the career of Murray, who maintains the medical record and continues to work, started at 1:30 am the day of death. From that hour until 7.30pm, Murray applied in Jackson are three types of powerful painkillers, in five doses.

But he was not asleep. And at 10, begged for a general anesthetic - propofol. The doctor told police he took 25 milligrams and went to the bathroom. Once again, Jackson did not breathe anymore.

Missing only eight days for Michael Jackson to travel to London, where he would begin his new tour. In an interview with Roberto Kovalick correspondent in Tokyo, the choreographer Michael confirms that the artist was having trouble sleeping and connected in the middle of the night excited about great ideas. He also said that Michael Jackson was in good shape and ready to go onstage.

Weighs against Murray doctor on charges of murder without intent. Maximum penalty of four years in jail.

We spoke by phone with a spokesman for the doctor. She said Murray has strenuously denied prescribed or administered something that could kill the artist. "Michael was a dear friend," she says. "The doctor feels a deep longing him."

Fans also feel. In front of the mansion where he lived, do not stop spending tourists. Appeared to a Michael Jackson cover, apart from Sri Lanka.

And not only is the house that the fans pay homage. This week, when it celebrates its first anniversary of the death of Michael Jackson, the main focus of attention from fans must turn to the Forest Lawn Cemetery, where he buried the body of the singer. It is a park-like cemetery, the gates are open virtually all day, there is no kind of control. The cars and people entering and leaving freely.

Among thousands of tombstones on the lawn, an imposing building dominates the landscape: the mausoleum where he is buried by Michael Jackson.

For a few hours every day, the doors of the mausoleum is opened. We went with a small amateur camera.

We saw the runners with the drawers of the dead. A stained glass plays the Last Supper by Leonardo da Vinci. Some areas are open. Others, locked in one of which is the tomb of Michael.

Without recording the interview, a security guard who recently revealed Lisa Marie Presley, daughter of Elvis and was married to Michael, he was laying flowers at the cemetery. Same fate did not have to nurse Debbie Row, biological mother of two children of Michael. The family did not show her where he's buried. The watchdog also reported that reach fans around the world, especially women. According to him, one came to offer him  sexual favors  :shock: to show where Michael is buried. He said he refused.

The cemetery is rich and distinguished people.

Just to the three sons, Michael left £ 265 million. Today, the remains of the king's supreme pop resting in the cemetery. But his art survives - kept in the hearts of fans.''

Now I ask how the reporter got into the forrest lawn? :?


[youtube:228t1m5q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5NYwTu3JXY[/youtube:228t1m5q]
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: laura58 on June 23, 2010, 08:52:07 PM
Why would the Jackson family tell them to say that I wonder ? " They Don't Have His Body And Never Did" Don't they want us to think he is dead and isn't that where we were told he was laid to rest. I don't know about you but I smell something in the air and it's not roses it smells kind of FISHY to me.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: laura58 on June 23, 2010, 08:53:44 PM
Why would the Jackson family tell them to say that I wonder ? " They Don't Have His Body And Never Did" Don't they want us to think he is dead and isn't that where we were told he was laid to rest. I don't know about you but I smell something in the air and it's not roses it smells kind of FISHY to me.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 23, 2010, 09:14:17 PM
Quote from: "laura58"
Why would the Jackson family tell them to say that I wonder ? " They Don't Have His Body And Never Did" Don't they want us to think he is dead and isn't that where we were told he was laid to rest. I don't know about you but I smell something in the air and it's not roses it smells kind of FISHY to me.

It's possible that Clifford lied. Well, someone's lied! :)
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Hazzely on June 23, 2010, 11:16:00 PM
Quote from: "mjmjmj"
I have called FL again, and this is what they said.
i asked them if there will be any sort of event at FL.
and they said no! they said all the news reports are false, and i told them that a friends of mine called them to require about mj's body, and FL responded, that they don't have MJ'S BODY and never had it.
and the guy told me that they were responding to enquiries according to what the JACKSON FAMILY wanted them to respond, this was then and this is now he said.
he said that they are responding according to what the Jackson Family want them to say.

they also said that FL will be opened, but access to the grave is forbidden,
he told me that the JACKSON FAMILY don't want anyone closed to where michael Grave is.
You can call him if you want If you don't believe me .

CALL THERE , HIS NAME IS CLIFFORD.
ASK for CLIFFORD.
Ask him about The event etc...

Phone
1-800-204-3131

International
1-323-254-3131

They don't have MJ's body LOL..And is this what the family wanted them to say? Maybe this was just a slip-up
I doubt the family would want the people to know FL DOES NOT have MJ'S BODY there since we've been told this..
If this was real and Michael died THERE SHOULD BE NO CONFUSION, at least not about this. What's the purpose? If anyone wanted to loot the grave and get MJ's body (for example) they would have tried until now. Why so much fuss about this. Why so many stories about something that should only have 1 version if they said the truth.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: teine21 on June 23, 2010, 11:38:18 PM
Or maybe they are being paid by the family or estate to lie & say he is there when he is in fact not. & these conflicting emails & calls are to try to cover that up. Everytime FL is involved or MJ's grave is focused on, things seem staged. So maybe he isn't there. You'd think if he was buried there, they'd at least put some kind of name or enscription. But they're not. As far as Jermaine being there with LK, that could very easily be staged, seeing as how the two of them are friends.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: chappie on June 23, 2010, 11:50:42 PM
Could be a dummy in the grave....  :roll:

Chappie
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mjmjmj on June 24, 2010, 12:12:49 AM
Quote from: "chappie"
Could be a dummy in the grave....  :roll:

Chappie

The last time i knew, the coffin was empty and has always been.
 this is memorial anniversary which will create sales for the Estate.
so the family has to say yeah ! he is dead .
Clifford wasn't lying he was telling the truth he was only saying what the family told him to say.
as you can see the lady who picked up the phone also said the same thing they are only going by what the Jackson family want them to say.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: nefari on June 24, 2010, 12:15:47 AM
And we know all about the way Larry King Feels "Oh he's still dead isn't he???" and certainly not forgetting how he kept looking all skeptical and weird talking to "Dave Dave" :roll:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mjmjmj on June 24, 2010, 12:20:37 AM
Quote from: "nefari"
And we know all about the way Larry King Feels "Oh he's still dead isn't he???" and certainly not forgetting how he kept looking all skeptical and weird talking to "Dave Dave" :roll:

Dave Dave and MJ are two different people.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: PinkTopaz on June 24, 2010, 01:21:25 AM
Quote from: "mrbigshot"
This was the same issue that was proposed by fellow death hoax investigator Tom Pickering who called forest lawn one day and got the same exact response as the first post indicates. Not sure what his opinion was about the matter, but you can find this call and his explanation on his "codeofthriller" account in either death hoax videos he uploaded.

As for the email, I would assume that the response is far from accurate and it is not in there policy to discuss who is interred where and why. The biggest issue is the difference between phone and email. Email is indirect and it is way too easy to mislead an audience or potential individual into thinking one thing, whereas it is a bit more difficult on the phone to do such an act. I think it just could be for legality reasons that when you call, you'll be able to find out who is on the other end of the line, and if they are telling you one thing, they could find themselves in a lot of trouble, but this is only a guess. I'm no lawyer nor do I understand the legal system completely, but something tells me that this particular incident is fishy, meaning, I wholeheartedly believe that the man on the phone was telling the truth whereas the email was just a fib.
You're right- I don't see what all the confusion is about! Of course he isn't there, I would think that everyone knows that by now, sheesh! However, just because Clifford decides to tell the truth doesn't mean that they're gonna respond that way to every single person that asks this question- those e-mails and other workers have to keep some paper on the surprise present still, don't they? It's not quite time to open it..yet, hehe..
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: nefari on June 24, 2010, 01:29:20 AM
PinkTopaz: I really do admire your optimisim and if I ever need cheering up I just read your posts. Some of the current happenings just have me feeling a bit like a 3 headed dog......which you know.....come to think of it that might be what Murray is!!!! :D
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: PinkTopaz on June 24, 2010, 01:51:33 AM
Quote from: "nefari"
PinkTopaz: I really do admire your optimisim and if I ever need cheering up I just read your posts. Some of the current happenings just have me feeling a bit like a 3 headed dog......which you know.....come to think of it that might be what Murray is!!!! :D
Thanks so much, Nefari! I'm not sure anything will happen on the 25th specifically, but I know something BIG is coming re-e-e-a-a-l soon!
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Lonelynation on June 24, 2010, 01:52:13 AM
Maybe they want everyone to believe he is buried at FL when in fact he is buried somewhere else. Some place where they don't want him to be 'disturbed'. Maybe we are looking at it from the wrong angle.

I hope that made sense...
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Hazzely on June 24, 2010, 02:13:38 AM
This article is way too interesting..
It's from  7:46PM BST 04 Jul 2009

Michael Jackson's family 'want him buried in concrete' to protect his grave
Michael Jackson's family want his coffin to be be encased in concrete to prevent fans from robbing his grave.
By Nick Allen in Los Angeles
Published: 7:46PM BST 04 Jul 2009

The singer, wearing a stage costume, will be laid to rest in a gold-plated coffin, along with tokens from his life in music, including one of the white gloves he loved to wear.
But, according to US media reports quoting a friend of the family, the Jacksons want the coffin entombed in concrete immediately after the funeral – which is expected to be held in secret before Tuesday's public memorial service – because of fears that a crazed fan could try to dig it up.


Jackson, who died aged 50, is expected to be temporarily buried in a cemetery, but a final resting place has been assigned for him by his family at the Neverland ranch, 150 miles north-west of Los Angeles, where he lived until 2005.
The spot is next to the ranch's train station. Jackson used to ride in the train, which he named after his mother, Katherine, every day to go from his house to his private zoo.


It is against California law to bury a body outside a cemetery, but the family intends to challenge that. Jermaine Jackson, 54, the singer's brother, said: "The people who make the laws can change the laws." --> Really interesting Jermaine...
But it could take months to obtain legal consent. The initial burial place is likely to be Forest Lawn Memorial Park, where stars including Marvin Gaye and Bette Davis are buried. But the family may decide to keep the exact location of the grave secret before moving the singer's coffin to Neverland. --> So now it's not a secret anymore LOL
As well as the risk of someone disturbing his remains, family members are concerned that his grave could be desecrated, or be daubed with graffiti referring to his 2005 trial on child abuse charges, of which he was cleared.
A similar double burial was held for Elvis Presley.
--> Now this is "THRILLING"

Jackson's public memorial service will be held at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. Millions of applications have been made in an online lottery for 17,500 tickets.
There are fears that touts may be using multiple email addresses to apply for the free tickets in order to sell them on. Ken Sunshine, the Jackson family spokesman, said: "I'm hoping people have dignity. For those that try to take advantage of this, shame on them."
Hordes of ticketless fans are expected to descend on Los An geles, and 1,400 police officers have been asked to volunteer for duty to control the crowds.
If Jackson is buried at Neverland, his family faces an uphill battle with nearby residents to open it as a place of pilgrimage similar to Graceland, where Elvis is buried. Graceland attracts more than 600,000 visitors a year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/musi ... grave.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/5743948/Michael-Jacksons-family-want-him-buried-in-concrete-to-protect-his-grave.html)
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On another page it says:
Sources close to the family say they are fully committed to holding a public memorial for his fans and are being guided by "what Michael would have wanted".  --> I still remember when in TII Kenny says “We are here for Michael, may that continue with him leading the way”..
It has been suggested that he will be buried in the Hollywood Hills at Forest Lawn Memorial Park, and that his body is already there. Film legends including Humphrey Bogart and Clark Gable are buried there.

However, a spokesman denied reports that Jackson's body is there. The spokesman said: "We've never had him and we're not going to."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/musi ... offin.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/5729964/Michael-Jackson-to-be-buried-in-gold-plated-coffin.html)
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Tina K. on June 24, 2010, 04:26:31 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"

I think that mjmjmj means that Forest Lawn said that they don't have MJ'S BODY and never had it as requested by the Jacksons.  The Jacksons asked them to give that answer.


I'm beginning to think, it's the Jacksons, who want's us to believe in this hoax.....
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: nefari on June 24, 2010, 04:33:39 AM
BINGO!!!!! M-O-N-E-Y!!!
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Loud on June 24, 2010, 04:41:25 AM
Quote from: "laura58"
Why would the Jackson family tell them to say that I wonder ? " They Don't Have His Body And Never Did" Don't they want us to think he is dead and isn't that where we were told he was laid to rest. I don't know about you but I smell something in the air and it's not roses it smells kind of FISHY to me.

From the Jacksons point of view...: They want Michaels body to be safe (and that is why the body was not in the coffin at the staples center during the public memorial service) and that is why they wanted the public not to be aware of the resting place. As simple as that.

No mystery and most important not a sign that this is a hoax. Just try to think from another perspactive and you will see the truth in front of us. :geek:
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Tink.I.Am on June 24, 2010, 04:45:00 AM
Quote from: "billiejean17"
They never had Michael's body?
that's because he's ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yepp...

but if  and i say IF he did die....  i think he was burried in Gary Indiana in secret.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 24, 2010, 05:21:41 AM
Well at least we know that the family will be at Gary, and not Forest Lawn.  On my mums 1st yr death anniversary, we had a mass and then all eight of us children, went to the cemetary she was buried at......I think most of us would do that...so obviously something is not right about this family, or they are hiding something....either way, the camera's will be following MJ's children and family closely on this day, so they better give us the truth....is he or isn't he ??????

From memory, Elvis Presley body was also moved to a different location for safety reasons........and to this day, there still is doubt if he is really buried at Graceland at all.  xoxoxo

http://www.elvispresleynews.com/ElvisExhumed.html (http://www.elvispresleynews.com/ElvisExhumed.html)
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Widow Michael J on June 24, 2010, 06:24:47 AM
KEEP THE FAITH
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Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Kirsche on June 24, 2010, 07:50:01 AM
Quote from: "mjmjmj"
FL responded, that they don't have MJ'S BODY and never had it.


they also said that FL will be opened, but access to the grave is forbidden,
he told me that the JACKSON FAMILY don't want anyone closed to where michael Grave is.
You can call him if you want If you don't believe me .

CALL THERE , HIS NAME IS CLIFFORD.
ASK for CLIFFORD.
Ask him about The event etc...

Phone
1-800-204-3131

International
1-323-254-3131


I don't get that! So they never had Michaels Body but he has a grave there???

hm...maybe just reserved?
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: mmz on June 24, 2010, 08:48:32 AM
If this is not a hoax,I think Jackson family is responsible for all the hidden clues that have made us become beLIEvers...the reason for that?: to make Michael a legend,to make him "live" forever, and maybe to make more money.
This is a sad point of view,but it should be a point  of view. :|
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: suspicious mind on June 24, 2010, 09:43:43 AM
does anybody remember way early in this thing that someone put a post about an old articale by some tabloid i think called the purple onion. it was about something to do with finding micheals bones where he had been buried like years before near the train station area ? this whole deal reminds me of that.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Venus on June 24, 2010, 04:59:29 PM
If they don't have the body it doesn't mean MJ is alive. It can also mean that the family decided to bury him somewhere else.
If the body is in fact at FL and the family told them the say that he's body is not there, this can also mean that JAcksons what us to think that MJ is alive for some reason (money I guess and interest to other members of the family. How many of you followed the family twitters and stuff before June 25th 2009? I guess not much, and now almost everyone does. Think yourself)
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: ForeverTrue on June 24, 2010, 05:21:27 PM
okayy.. these people need to make up their mind if they wanna keep any secret  :? is he there or not??
we'll found out soon i hope :)
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on June 24, 2010, 05:43:54 PM
So, what do we expect FL to say, "No he's not here cause he faked his death and he's alive."  :?
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: scorpionchik on June 24, 2010, 09:53:37 PM
Mom and kids will be in Gary, Indiana. It is scary, but suddenly I thought  may be Michael was buried in Gary way before funeral "show" at Glendale FL, just to mislead fans?   :roll:

No, no, no Michael is alive.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: teine21 on June 25, 2010, 12:44:07 AM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Mom and kids will be in Gary, Indiana. It is scary, but suddenly I thought  may be Michael was buried in Gary way before funeral "show" at Glendale FL, just to mislead fans?   :roll:

No, no, no Michael is alive.

That could be. Maybe they lied so that fans wouldn't disturb his grave & the family could visit whenever privately. I hope it's not true, I'm still holding on to him being alive however that is possible. Although Randy is AGAINST the Gary trip, idk if he would be against it if his brother truly were buried there. At least I hope not.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: MashMike on June 25, 2010, 02:36:36 AM
The only thing that is for sure is the fact that he is not burried in FL.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Sangre on June 25, 2010, 04:40:28 AM
Quote from: "mmz"
If this is not a hoax,I think Jackson family is responsible for all the hidden clues that have made us become beLIEvers...the reason for that?: to make Michael a legend,to make him "live" forever, and maybe to make more money.
This is a sad point of view,but it should be a point  of view. :|


I think we are responsible for most of the clues, because we wanted to believe he is alive. We must admit, we have over-analyzed a lot of things.  :?
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: nefari on June 25, 2010, 05:15:51 AM
We have not over analyzed Murray and his weird antics and the fact that something just stinks about this entire "death". Something has been wrong with it from the beginning, like a bunch of stooges are behind it.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Sangre on June 25, 2010, 05:20:15 AM
Quote from: "nefari"
We have not over analyzed Murray and his weird antics and the fact that something just stinks about this entire "death". Something has been wrong with it from the beginning, like a bunch of stooges are behind it.

When it comes to murder investigations and unsolved deaths, everything stinks. I'm just saying that we must be prepared for whatever the outcome is.
Title: Re: NEW UPDATE ABOUT FOREST LAWN
Post by: Gone too soon on June 26, 2010, 02:52:31 AM
I´m totally with you on that one.
I think Michael was murdered and yes, a lot of things "stink".

The reason I do not think it is a hoax (saying this with the deepest respect for each one of you who believes) is that Michael would never, NEVER, come up with a death-scenario including drugs. He would have known that media would make him into a drugaddict, forcing his children and family to debunk the rumours that he was a junkie. If he had hoaxed a death he would just have "died" in a heartattack. It would have been much easier and no strange doctor having to be involved, no courtcases.
 
But a lot of things are wrong with his death so I am a believer of murder. Wish all the energy could be put down in trying to find who did it.....!!

Michael was one of a kind and there will never be anyone like him again. Ever.
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