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Title: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: 3292gold on June 16, 2010, 08:22:23 PM
I have this thought in my head keeps popping up. I hope you all don't think I am crazy. I am a women in her 40's, work 2 jobs, raised 3 kids. Anyway- as I read posts, alot of people openly admiy they were never huge fans of MJ. Most say they enjoyed His music, but were never fanatics, (me included). Yet why have we become obsessed with the hoax, and His music, His messages, and well, MJ in general. I think most of us are obsessed with the whole thing.  We read all we can, listen to His music, check the websites, youtube, etc. Maybe-IF He is dead, and I still am pretty sure He is alive, but IF He is dead, maybe He is sending all of us obsessed followers, a message. Maybe we are the chosen ones to spread His message, or something. I don't know but I spend way too much yime reading and thinking about this hoax. Maybe His spirit, (if He is dead), is pulling us towards something, or trying to tell us something,- I don't know?!  Can anyone help me here?
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: whatyourheartsays on June 16, 2010, 08:35:35 PM
I don't know... I cannot explain how you (people who have never been fan in your life) can get so much involved for Michael.
All I can tell is my own experience : I always felt deep inside of me that Michael was a kind person. I mean, when I was young I only had his music and videos...but what I imagined of him was him being very nice and caring.
Then I grew up to my own life, just telling myself I've been dreaming, and didn't thought about it anymore. But then I found him again, and I found all those videos I never saw. And I just realised that the Michael I imagined deep in my heart, the Michael I was afraid never to find if I ever met him, was really the real Michael : nice and caring...

I just found so much similarities with who I thought he was, It just came back to me, as a big shock in my heart. And there I go again, all this love for Michael. But now I'm 30, I needed time to grow up to find my own place and life, and now i know where I am, I just discover Michael wasn't that far from the place I choosed.
I'm just back to my childhood, but with 20 years of experience behind me  :D

It's just magic that Michael can catch people like this and bring them in his own space ! Michael is just magic, he has a powerfull mind and heart. There is really something that shines in him. I don't find the words in English but in my head in french, it sounds really nice  :lol:
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: mjjveritas on June 16, 2010, 08:44:30 PM
3292gold, Obsessed is the word. I've always been interested in MJ's life and work or should that be work and life. He's just got something that draws people to him. Magnetism, is what it is. He's just interesting. I definitely spend too much time thinking about all this. I try to downplay it but it's impossible. So I give in and carry on. I would say more but am too tired, sorry. There is always another day.  :)
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: lynnandsofee on June 16, 2010, 08:50:19 PM
3239....I am in the same boat as you, only I'm older yet, LOL, but anyway....I knew of Michael of course, but hardly ever listened to his music, or went to any concerts, (now I wished I had) however when he suppose to have died, something hit me like a ton of bricks.  There isn't a day that goes by that I am not on this site, thinking of him, and how special he was.  Everyone in my family thinks I have lost it !!  I can't explain this, but the desire just will not stop.  When I wake up, I hear his songs.  When I go to bed, I ask God to please tell us the truth, but I feel in someway he has already answered me.  The essence of Michael is inside me, and feel that it will remain in my heart forever.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 16, 2010, 09:08:15 PM
3292gold, I am exactly like you.  I feel "chosen" as well.  I was never a big fan either.  I heard his music at nightclubs and danced to them but that's about it.

I am 45 yo and a single mum to a 7 yo boy.  I have never felt this obsessed about anything in my life.  I've always been a spiritual person and have experienced the 11.11 phenonomen since I was 15 when my mother died.  Michael just draws me in.  I look at his pictures and I feel him. I feel him talking to me.  Last night, I starred at a pic. of him and closed my eyes, asking him "Michael where are you???? over and over again.    After some time, a vision came into my head.  It was a white plaque that came from the ground.......At first I thought OMG, he is really dead, but then I felt he was wanting me to read that white plaque in the ground.  I couldn't see the writing on it, and the plaque was slightly leaning...........
I have to find this plaque now....and see what it says...So my answer is, me too! I don't know what it is but I too feel chosen.  It has opened up my eyes to what is really happenning around us. It's like we were chosen to be his Messengers....(Malachi)

Michael has this powerful energy, and I can feel it, from Australia  :D  :D  It's all for L.O.V.E  xoxox
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on June 16, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
8-)
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: RK on June 16, 2010, 09:34:04 PM
I'm another one.  There's no explaining it away. I am 51 years old next week and I have adult children a husband of 33 years and a responsible job. People say I'm practical and sensible. But not lately.  I've asked myself many times what  is wrong with me . I can't walk away from this.Obsession, compulsion, and addiction  all come to mind. Like others here, I read all I can, pray for MJ and the children, think of this constantly night and day. I'm checking on here before I have coffee in the morning. I could go on and on but it sounds like you guys know what I mean. This thread is comforting to know that
You are not alone.....I am here with you.....Though we're far apart......Your always in my heart.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: sandythyme on June 16, 2010, 09:37:39 PM
Isn't funny how one man can do this to us?  I am 50, I remember the first time I saw Michael on the Ed Sullivan show.  I yelled Mommy come and see this kid!!!  He was a year older than me and WOW!  Obsessed!  You bet!  Old fans, new fans and all fans in between, we love him.  As you guys said, there is something about him.  I remember a comment on a news program, the man the media loved to hate (how terrible!), but let him walk into a room and all eyes are on him.  They couldn't get enough of him.  So, it's ok for us to feel the way we do about him.  He is a part of us, our lives and yes we hoaxers probably all lie in bed every night asking God to watch over him, make him safe and if possible, please bring him back to us (I don't want to get to demanding with God! But please, please please!).  He is our Peter Pan.  It's just one of those crazy things, I believe in him, 40 years and counting. Take care guys!
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: sandythyme on June 16, 2010, 09:41:45 PM
RK!  Happy early birthday!!!  I am right there with you in the morning with my coffee and my computer!  Sometimes I get up hours early just for the redirects!!!!  It feels great knowing we are not alone!
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: loveratheart4mj on June 16, 2010, 09:59:16 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
3292gold, I am exactly like you.  I feel "chosen" as well.  I was never a big fan either.  I heard his music at nightclubs and danced to them but that's about it.

I am 45 yo and a single mum to a 7 yo boy.  I have never felt this obsessed about anything in my life.  I've always been a spiritual person and have experienced the 11.11 phenonomen since I was 15 when my mother died.  Michael just draws me in.  I look at his pictures and I feel him. I feel him talking to me.  Last night, I starred at a pic. of him and closed my eyes, asking him "Michael where are you???? over and over again.    After some time, a vision came into my head.  It was a white plaque that came from the ground.......At first I thought OMG, he is really dead, but then I felt he was wanting me to read that white plaque in the ground.  I couldn't see the writing on it, and the plaque was slightly leaning...........
I have to find this plaque now....and see what it says...So my answer is, me too! I don't know what it is but I too feel chosen.  It has opened up my eyes to what is really happenning around us. It's like we were chosen to be his Messengers....(Malachi)

Michael has this powerful energy, and I can feel it, from Australia  :D  :D  It's all for L.O.V.E  xoxox


WOW U FREAKED ME OUT WHEN YOU SPOKE OF THE 11:11 THING. I HAVE HAD THIS STRANGE  PHENONOMEN SINCE i WAS ABOUT 25. ITS SO WEIRD. I FEEL LIKE ITS SOMETHING SPEICAL BUT I JUST DONT KNOW WHAT???? I AM 49 AND WILL BE 50 AUGUST 8TH. JUST TOTALLY WEIRD.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: jill on June 16, 2010, 10:06:06 PM
Hi, well me too.  I'm 53, have two kids that are almost grown.  I was a fan of Michael Jackson when I was in my preteens (long time ago).  I stopped following his music after Billie Jean.  I would catch a story here or there in the news but didn't pay much attention.  When the child molestation charges were brought against him I knew they were not true.  I was relieved to hear he was aquitted.  

When I heard the news on the 26th (I didn't even hear it on the 25th!) I was floored.  I could not believe how I was grieving for someone I never knew and did not really follow.  I searched the internet for his music and any thing I could find on him.  I was watching the news the day they moved his body from the hospital to the morgue in the helicopter.  I was sitting here watching it and I jumped up off the couch when I saw the body move as the helicopter started to land!  I could not believe the news telecaster did not see or it or make a comment about it.  I immediately started searching the net to see if anyone had seen what I saw.  It was days before I finally found a video on youtube that gave the inconsistencies surrounding his death and stated it was possibly a hoax.  I was hooked from then on.

I was amazed at the talent he had watching videos of him and listening to songs I had never heard before, years of them.  I am on the fence about the hoax but I am here to stay until I know the truth about what happened to him.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: jill on June 16, 2010, 10:08:40 PM
I have to ask...what is the 11.11 thing?
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: scorpionchik on June 16, 2010, 10:12:00 PM
Like most of you. I am late and very much fan now. I am not native american. basically, I used to listen more european songs, and some of Michael's. But when I moved here, listen songs' lyrics and find out how he is  HUMBLE  being such a famous star, that made me speechless and I feel endless respect and love to Michael, and meaningful lyrics made me fanatic fan. One more interesting fact, when I learned MJ was taken to the hospital and then "died", I did not believe, don't know why, I just said it is NOT true and sticked to my instinct. Were moments I was doubtful, but that was go away quickly. I am trying to avoid "addiction", but there is no day I could spend without browising  this site and MJ's site.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: suspicious mind on June 16, 2010, 10:16:10 PM
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/sy-134063 ... sic_video/ (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/sy-13406389/michael_jackson_cry_official_music_video/)

one of my favorites
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: cin_pyt on June 16, 2010, 11:25:43 PM
I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT I SEE CLIPS OF MIKE ON TV AND I FEEL LIKE THIS I DON'T KNOW LIKE MUSHY FEELING LIKE HE'S PART OF MY EVERY DAY LIFE OR SOMETHING I GET A SWEET FEELING. I SMILE HE MAKES ME SMILE AND I THINK OF MY PROBLEMS AND THEN LOOK AT HIS I'M LIKE YOU WIMP MIKE ENDURED HARDER THINGS. I NEVER HEARD MUCH OF MJ WE WERE ALL DEPRIVED OF MJ CUS OF THOSE UGLY LIES, NOW WHAT DO YOU KNOW WE ARE FANS AND WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT MIKE. THE DAY I GOT THE TEXT MESSAGE "MICHAEL JACKSON IS DEAD" IT FOREVER I DON'T KNOW WHY I THOUGHT IMMEDIATELY NO HE'S NOT!!!! HE IS NOT DEAD I HAVE NO IDEA WHY IT HAPPENED THAT WAY.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 16, 2010, 11:45:25 PM
[youtube:13n8irzg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcDLPv7cQm0&feature=fvw[/youtube:13n8irzg]

[youtube:13n8irzg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXV6q8tEOcQ&feature=fvw[/youtube:13n8irzg]
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: 2 Bad on June 16, 2010, 11:49:02 PM
whatyourheartsays -"I'm just back to my childhood, but with 20 years of experience behind me"

I love this! Thank you! Never in my life have I worn clothes and jewelry to support somebody I don't know. I am like a teenager with all my MJ stuff LOL!
54 yrs old, an artist, with a grown son of my own gone from the nest-always loving Michael and his music and films and never believing all the lies. Silently praying for him and wondering where he is or how he is doing.....
The 6-25-09 news was not believed, after 2 weeks of crying my eyes and heart out, because you could feel the pain on the news. Everybody believed he had died, how come I feel like nothing makes sense and I said on forums that I am leaving the window open cuz Peter Pan is out there.
Oh yes the sympathetic pats on the back, she'll come around.
 Never did! After reading the posts all this time from day one I am still in belief that Michael lives. I don't know why or how or when and frankly just a small note somewhere saying he is fine and well would make me so happy. I don't care why or how or when I just know I stand by him with whatever he chooses, always.
I think we are the chosen people of a sort, we never drank the kool-aid and have learned to not believe the media, to question virtually everything!
I wish the media would just cut him out of their "news", let him alone and his children and family, I feel like they media will be the ones to start all the hate again and I would rather not see that. Michael said "You gotta let it simmer" so simmer I am.
I only listen to MJ now, I try hard to listen to others, I love 3T. Nobody compares to MJ!
I will admit I watched Purple Rain last night on VH1 :-)
<<<Group hug>>>>>
I love and miss you Michael!
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: dmovie27 on June 17, 2010, 12:34:37 AM
I nominate this for topic of the year!  :D

Beautiful!
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: scorpionchik on June 17, 2010, 12:47:39 AM
Wow! It is my birth month & day November, 11  :) .
I knew 11/11 role in numerology, but "awareness" I see first time.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Love4Michael on June 17, 2010, 01:03:31 AM
I second that nomination dmovie27!!  I'm 51, always been a fan but like many others got busy in family life. I now have tears in my eyes from reading through these posts. It's hard to feel so alone in the real world of everyday life, not knowing anyone around me that feels the way I do, but I see the same shared feeling poured out here on this page and know I'm NOT alone!!

Thank you all for putting in print all that's in my heart


Yes, Virgina...there IS a Santa Claus

and

Yes, World....Michael IS Magic!!
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: LovelyLurker on June 17, 2010, 01:14:56 AM
OK :o  I started watching those 11:11 videos at exactly 11:11  ( time on my computer)
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Post by: MJonmind on June 17, 2010, 01:30:15 AM
This is a good topic. This whole thing is such a weird phenomenen. I'm 54 also, was not an MJ fan at all or followed anyone, just had heard his songs occasionally like everyone. When he died, I studied about his life a bit, like usual.  But I was totally unprepared for what happened and I don't understand it. It was like I totally fell headoverheels in love with the man, within a couple of weeks. These feelings have never left, feelings of incredible joy, awe.  :D But early after falling in love, I started to grieve his loss, worse than a family member. I started to feel pain in my heart, and feel depressed. The thought of a hoax entered my mind, cause I research about all kinds of weird things online, and have for 10 years. I found the first MJDH site (not sure) beginning of August I think. Went into shock when it went down permanently, but found this site shortly after, and have been literally glued to this place ever since. I mean I still have a family to take care of, work part time, etc. but do what I have to do and, SNAP, right back here.  :roll: This has been the experience of my life, like my crowning acheivement/adventure. Sometimes I think, what if 2 years from now nothing has happened and I'll have to face the fact that I wasted 1 or more years every spare moment, that I could have been productive otherwise. Everyone in my life that know about my interest (very few) all think I'm nuts.  I think it's got something to do with my heart, and the leanings it has, the way I'm wired, or created. :?  That's why your title is interesting--"are we the chosen people". Why are there so many of us that have such similar stories. The only thing missing for me is--I would like to have a good dream of him--that would be very cool!!
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Post by: billiejean17 on June 17, 2010, 01:44:44 AM
We have all had a short sharp SHOCK, which has "Awakened" something up in all of us...
i am calling it a" Supernatrual Experience"... i am 57 with 2 children , and i have given up on thinking why i am so obssessed with it al, i just "Go with the flow" and see where it takes me, something is happening to us and the World, there are big changes coming...
Failing all that the Men in White coats may very well turn up on my doorstep at some time...

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: LovelyLurker on June 17, 2010, 01:50:52 AM
Weird. MJonmind and the others here... I am exactly the same and have often wondered what it is that keeps me here 1 year later. I am 51 and work and all that but spend all my time here as the others here do. My family feels I am nuts and that I am obsessed.....so be it  :P
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: 2 Bad on June 17, 2010, 01:52:59 AM
mjonmind- I have had one dream, just one. Back on Dec 19th, I wrote it down!!
Anyway I had pneumonia and this dream was so real and so warm. We just talked, about where my life was going, about what I had to do to get it on the right track again. Everything we talked about applies. I don't know why but I knew I had a great life change coming sooner or later, you just can't stay miserable for ever, you have to do something about it.
Michael was very sweet and we were like friends visiting. One hug :-)

I hope we get answers. I hope you don't think you "wasted a year" on this. I'm sure you didn't.  I know it has greatly affected my work and my house but I "had" to keep up on it, something pulled me to continue to search for the answers. I would never feel I wasted a precious second, I just re-arranged my life LOL!

I'm glad so many have come together, and so many good people.
"COME TOGETHER RIGHT NOW- OVER ME!"
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Post by: Doctor Death on June 17, 2010, 02:23:34 AM
Well, All I can say is that I royally effed up my career over this whole hoax....I mean ,I failed my entrance exams, I am constantly hooked onto the forum....But then again, I am not complaining. :D

I just hope that I can meet all of you one day....That would make me feel a lot better.... ;)

And I feel disgusted knowing about all the bad in the world...I mean, those sh!tty old men and the little cospiracies that they hatch behind closed doors of their palacial buildings.....I mean the Presidency......What exactly are these politicians and so-called champions of Democracy upto?

I mean we elect these people, they ought to be afraid of us.....But no, THey are not afraid because they know that all it takes is a couple of BARELLS OF TEAR GAS to disperse the crowd.....And BAM! They dont have to worry about anything...anything at all!  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
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Post by: 2good2btrue on June 17, 2010, 02:31:09 AM
I'm sure there will be a 12 step program for us when it's all over... :lol:  :lol:  :lol: ..I forgot to mention, I also fell in L.O.V.E with him after he "passed".  I researched everything there was about him and just couldn't believe how magical he is...I spend about 6 hrs a day here.  And yes, most days I turn it on with my morning coffee....
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Post by: Good Lets Dance on June 17, 2010, 02:33:14 AM
There is  Something Supernatural or Otherworldly Going On and I too have wondered why I was chosen to become Enchanted. There is a site called "Inner Michael" and the lady who started it calls herself an "Empath", and anyway the site is about this phenomanen. What I notice is we are mostly women. It's like we all had some secret special built-in antenna that we were unaware of, and it was activated by MJ. Part of my obsession is wanting to understand it. Why didn't this happen to anyone else I know? I have thought things like maybe he was in such emotional pain or fear that it radiated out and touched people who are Intuitive "recievers"...and that is US? He needs something from us, and i personally feel he is depending on US to make sure he gets JUSTICE for him!

Anyway, below is my original Introdutory Post About being Chosen Prior To 6/25/09

I am in my mid 50's; grew up with MJ on TV since he was little on Ed Sullivan, etc. Since he was always "there" I guess you could say I took MJ for granted. I always liked his music but never saw him live. He was always in the News for some reason or another, and he just seemed to be an ongoing staple of everyday life. But that all changed on June 25th! His death had such an Emotional Effect on me! The first things that came into my mind were "Murder" and "Gov't Involvement"  .

Now here is where it gets strange: About a week and a half previous to 6/25 on a Sunday I had on a radio station that I normally don't listen to and they played a song that just grabbed me. The DJ said it was by MJ but did not give the NAME of the song. I became Obsessed with wanting to hear this song again, but did NOT know the name of it! Turns out it was "I Can't Help It" from "Off The Wall". I finally found it on UTube and this led to other music/videos by MJ. I became totally engrossed and entranced in MJ's music shortly before his reported death on the 25th of June. This just freaked me out because I had never paid any attention to him prior to this. It was like I Re-Discovered him and became Enamored of him right before his "Death". It freaked me out so much I told my boyfriend about it! (He was not very enthusiastic about this) It was like I was under some type of of Hypnosis! All I did was watch MJ videos; went out and bought his CD's and scoured the internet for everything about him. I have never before been obsessed with a celebrity in my life! I feel like my fascination with the "I Can't Help It" song was some kind of WARNING. After his death report I was Compelled to find a forum to see if I was the only one who had experienced this phenomena. And YES - I did find others who had eerie Paranormal MJ Music Awakenings in the weeks prior to his death!

Thank You All. We Must Find out What happened to Michael and I Hope and Pray he is Alive!
La
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Post by: mumof3 on June 17, 2010, 02:44:23 AM
This post is me all the way

I have always liked michael and believed in him and watched the trial  but I was not a devout fan like so many and I never went to see him

But on 25th I just did not feel he had died and in the memorial the pains shocked me where did that word come from

I have been here since last July on the old forum

I feel that we are being led by something. I have never behaved like this before and wondered why can't you just give up you are 50 three childen work you don't need this. I just can't till I know what happened. I have learnt so much here and I am thankfull for this site
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Post by: mumof3 on June 17, 2010, 02:45:49 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I'm sure there will be a 12 step program for us when it's all over... :lol:  :lol:  :lol: ..I forgot to mention, I also fell in L.O.V.E with him after he "passed".  I researched everything there was about him and just couldn't believe how magical he is...I spend about 6 hrs a day here.  And yes, most days I turn it on with my morning coffee....
Ditto
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Post by: LovelyLurker on June 17, 2010, 02:49:35 AM
@ goodletsdance...I HEAR YA !!! I have often wondered why I have done the things I have done since last June. I have MJ posters and calenders, I have CDs and video discs, I have watched more youtube videao of MJ than I ever thought possible and I even booked the day off of work and phoned in sick on the day of the memorial.

I never do things like this and have never done this kinda stuff for anyone else and I have to say it makes me feel a little better knowing that thier are women my age that are going through the same thing. My father passed away recently and we did not have a relationship but as I was the only living in the vicintity it was up to me to do al lot of the things but every night I would come home and feed my child and then get on the computer right away and I felt that if I missed a day I would miss everything.

Every day when I turn on the TV I wonder if there will be news about the " return" I am actually a very sane woman and I often wonder what has happened to me? It is a very odd phenomanon that is for certain.
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Post by: MashMike on June 17, 2010, 04:42:43 AM
I should admit that i have always been his fanatic fan since i was 6( but , of course, in moderation)  but i should also admit that after his "death" and after this hoax i have totally changed my way of thinking, i used to look at the world through pink sunglasses but now i have become more alarm about things goin' on in the world, i have become more mature and more informed about everything and i'm so glad that many people from all over the world have been united under this site, under this forum for Michael, for his invaluable message and simply for L.O.V.E.
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Post by: mattie on June 17, 2010, 05:13:05 AM
Hello ..
I was never this huge fan.
Always liked his music and dancing.
I am wundering this whole year..Why did this happen to me??
And why not to the people arround me??
Something happend to me sins the 02 anouncment..There i already felt something  weird.
I did not pay attention to it(it was in the back of my mind) until june 25.
After that..Wel..I am here sins day one!

Yes, what is it that reached us? but not so many other people??

Sorry for my Englisch writing..This is the reason i dont post much.
But i am here every day.
And this for a grandmother of 58 years old!
Do you know how they looke at me at home here :mrgreen:
Greetings Mattie
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Post by: Soosie Woosie on June 17, 2010, 06:06:58 AM
Hello  :)

Ditto, ditto, ditto to virtually all the posts before mine.  Unbelievable how similar all our stories are isn't it.

I grew up with Michael (not personally, sadly :(  ) but I am exactly 6 months older than him and one of my first ever records was Got to be There, which I still love to this day.  At the same as Michael and the Jackson 5, The Osmonds appeared and I'm afraid Donny really stole my heart (I'm sucker for a soppy song) so although I listened to alot of Michael's and the Jackson 5's songs, all the albums/records I ever made absolutely sure I bought, were Donny's and the Osmonds, as well as plastering my bedroom in their pictures (I still remember how my dad used to groan when he walked in my room and say such as "how can you sleep with all those teeth around you :lol:  ).  

I can still vividly remember the huge build up to the Thriller video and song and was absolutely mesmorised by it, and still am every time I see it.  I was always interested in news about Michael though more often than not it was some stupid story the media had made up and then exaggerated beyond belief and I was 100% sure of his innocence during the trials, and never waivered from my belief in him and his purity.  The poor, poor man - I could cry now when I think of what he went through - it would be an horrific ordeal for any one of us but for such a sweet and gentle soul, I'm amazed how well he kept his composure and dignity.  When he finally walked free, looking so frail and weak, I said to my husband "I bet he makes a come back" - something which couldn't have looked further from the truth at the time.

The question I now ask myself is - "which come back was I possibly referring to"?  I don't know now :D

I was on the internet on 25th June last year when I came across the headline about Michael being rushed to hospital, and then "allegedly" had died.  I cannot explain what came over me but since that day I have not been able to let a day pass without checking this forum, and a couple of others, to make sure I haven't missed anything at all about him, watch videos of him - some of which I had never seen before.  I can't talk about how I feel to my husband because he just thinks I am bonkers but anytime anything Michael related comes on tv, in the paper, radio etc. he looks at me and I just say "poor Michael" and leave it at that.

I can remember the day Diana died like it was yesterday and the thunderbolt that went through me too but I never once questioned it was true, though I did question the cirumstances.  I just felt it was such a tragic waste of a young life, of someone who had so much more to give and who was finally finding her own way in life.

Enough I think - I still have days when I am not really sure but something, or someone, is just keeping me tied to all this and I don't think I could break free from it, even if I wanted to.

Much love xxx
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Believe 777 on June 17, 2010, 06:47:03 AM
There is indeed a phenomenon going on with this. It's like Michael has been talking to people's souls without some of them even knowing it, like me. When he 'died' it was like a 'soul recall'. Our soul memory was triggered. Michael knows us so well and how to communicate with us at a level that most are completely blind to. How astonishing that so many who were not fans as such have had this message internally logged for future awakening, and here we all are, connecting together and forming Michael's Army of love. It is truly breath-taking. On many occassions when Michael tried to talk to his fans he would be drowned out by screaming fans and now he really is being heard. Michael has planned this for so many years and now must be a very humbling time for him, knowing for sure that he has been heard. He knew all along that it would take his 'death' for the memory he implanted in us to be triggered.
Everything about our World is about frequency and vibration and Michael knew how to tune into us on a collective sunbconscious level. Our World is changing and Yes, I do think we are the chosen ones who have connected with this frequency of Michael and of love. This is a strong form of telepathy in many ways and I thank Michael for the years and years of dedication he has given to us. He has worked harder and with more passion than anyone else I can think of on this Planet and our World will be healed with our collective awareness and strength, as it grows. Michael should be incredibly proud of himself as this is beyond anything previously imaginable.    :D
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Butterfly J on June 17, 2010, 06:52:50 AM
Quote from: "mattie"
Hello ..
I was never this huge fan.
Always liked his music and dancing.
I am wundering this whole year..Why did this happen to me??
And why not to the people arround me??
Something happend to me sins the 02 anouncment..There i already felt something  weird.
I did not pay attention to it(it was in the back of my mind) until june 25.
After that..Wel..I am here sins day one!

Yes, what is it that reached us? but not so many other people??

Exactly the same with me  :D My only explanation for myself is that I loved him all the time, I just didn´t realised it before he left us.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Speechless_250609 on June 17, 2010, 09:12:24 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I'm sure there will be a 12 step program for us when it's all over... :lol:  :lol:  :lol: ..I forgot to mention, I also fell in L.O.V.E with him after he "passed".  I researched everything there was about him and just couldn't believe how magical he is...I spend about 6 hrs a day here.  And yes, most days I turn it on with my morning coffee....

Ditto! I'm in my mid-thirties witha husband and two young kids...always loved his music, but was never really a "fan". Became totally obsessed after his "death" and read and researched about any and everything related to him; fell madly in L.O.V.E. (like you) and can't do without this forum! He IS magical! Something about him just captivates you and draws you right in. My eyes have been opened to the evils in this world because of him! I don't think anyone every has or ever will again have the kind of impact on my life that he has had! Of course my husband thinks I'm crazy, but that's inconsequential to me.  :lol:

With LOVE!!!!
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on June 17, 2010, 10:14:57 AM
Well I guess I have a very similar story to everyone really :roll:   I always loved MJs music, and would follow stories about him in recent years, but wasnt a fanatic , just loved a lot of the Motown artists in my teans, I did have a few CDs, never went to a concert, gosh wish I had when the chance was there in the early 1990s.  I had got tickets for 02 Concert in August, but sadly that was not to be :?  

I am 56 years, married, have my own small business which I do 7/days week thoughout the year working with animals.  I am not sure what I felt initially, shock initially  :shock:  I was asleep early morning when my TV had come on and I sat bolt upright wide awake!  when I heard the BBC TV presenter say "Michael Jackson" is Dead.  It wasnt until after the memorial service finished, I dont know why or what I was searching for but within a few days I found the first MJHD site, the longer they delayed the funeral the more strange things felt, I have tried, but like all of you I am on this site everday, I try to plan my work around it, (I should be working now ;)  :lol:) I will be in trouble with my boss (me! :lol: ).  It is a huge learning experience for me, before this, I had never been on ytube, or even played music on the internet, I now have myspace accounts facebook, twitter etc etc all to follow the events of hoax related topics.   I had never been on any type of forum!   I have a husband who is very understanding!  I spend so much time investigating the hoax my house is in dire need of my attention but it is just a compulsion to find out the truth.

I feel that this adventure has changed me in many ways, I have learned so much from this experience.  I just feel so drawn to Michael, just watching him makes me so emotional, he is such a loving caring person, who is just so misunderstood by the world, he has such a pure soul you can almost see feel it in his aura.  Im not very good at emplaining myself. :oops:

 My definition of Michael is "Pure Love".

Blessing to all.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Rita Hayworth on June 17, 2010, 11:20:00 AM
Odd that there are so many of us that feel the same way....I'm an (old) analyst, not given to displays of irrational emotion and/or behavior and yet everyday I'm here. I cease to tell anyone anymore because of the looks I get. So I guess I'm a "closet" believer.

I do feel a strong spiritual connection and yes, that I was especially chosen as many of you are to be here. I also feel a great responsibility because of that. My quest was originally for the truth...now it's about what God would have me do with the information I've received here. I have already started to make small changes that have grown exponentially since last year. I'm going to stay to the end...or until I get my answer for my life. The one recurring message for me has been "healing." I just am not sure will that will lead. I just think it is bigger than I can possibly imagine."To whom much is given, much is required." We all have been given a great gift by being here.

I would love to meet all of you when this is "over."
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: 3292gold on June 17, 2010, 12:12:58 PM
Loved reading these posts. So we are sharing the same actions, like an addict. Never enough information. I like the word enchanted, and I am glad about how others feel a spiritual feeling is awakened. I do not think MJ  wants us to use Murray as seeking justice. I just don't know. I really just want to know how and why  such" normal" people, have been drawn into this so strongly, while so many more have not? Is there a message from Him that we are missing????
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: smoothcriminal on June 17, 2010, 12:21:21 PM
It's interesting to see the ones who are 50 ish here.  Myself included.  I  have been a ( since I do not like the word fan), I will say that I have been an admirer of Michaels since he came out on his own.  I just love the human being side of him so much, his caring and kindness and his hope for humanity. Of course I have all of his music and most of the DVD'S of him working his magic on stage ........... oh that and his voice are "it" for me.  My feeling is that we are older souls here,  we have connected with MJ because we care and at some level know and feel that we will and are making the change that is needed.
I like most of you come to this site everyday to see what is new, it makes me feel that I am not alone in how I feel.  Even thou none of us have met, we are connected and this is the place for us to come and speak our truth and to feel sad and to cry and to laugh . Mo and Souza were guided here to bring us ALL together for this Adventure. I have read many post here and there are some of you that blow me away with your wisdom. I wish I could name all of you that have at one point or another made me have a  :o .   Being 50 has its moments on the memory.  Just so you know that all of you are wonderful souls, and I am grateful for the chance to be here amongst opened minded and liked minded human beings.   :D
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: rowdyangel on June 17, 2010, 12:55:28 PM
I hold my hands up and say that I am the same as most of you who have replied in this thread.

I am 39, married, no kids, work full time.  As a teenager I was very aware of Michael's music - Thriller and Bad especially and I went through a 'phase' in the Bad era of having an MJ poster on my bedroom wall for a few months.  However, as I got to the age of about 16-17, I moved away from Michael and got into other music such as Wet Wet Wet, Kylie Minogue (and others) and sort of left Michael behind.  I was never a die-hard MJ fan back then.  However, I continued to buy his CDs when they were released but then when it got to 1992 I never gave Michael a second thought.

Even during the trials in 1993 and 2005 I was very 'distant' - not BECAUSE of the trials, don't get me wrong, but because there was so much going on in my life around that time - had just met my future husband, bought our first house etc etc.

Since 25th June 2009 I am MJ crazy!!  I am like a teenager again.  Never before has anyone had such an impact on my life and never have I been so fanatical about anyone or anything.  I can only describe it as having had a huge slap on the face, a wake-up call.  It's very odd and for a while it unsettled me.  I would ask myself "But why am I feeling like this about Michael?  Why has he had this impact on me?"

For me, I think some of it is guilt - I feel very very guilty that it took 25th June 2009 for me to realise what Michael is all about and also, guilt because I wasn't there when he needed the love and support of his fans more than ever.

So, for all of you who are wondering "why", I know exactly what you mean.

XX
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: CC on June 17, 2010, 02:03:06 PM
Quote from: "Speechless_250609"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I'm sure there will be a 12 step program for us when it's all over... :lol:  :lol:  :lol: ..I forgot to mention, I also fell in L.O.V.E with him after he "passed".  I researched everything there was about him and just couldn't believe how magical he is...I spend about 6 hrs a day here.  And yes, most days I turn it on with my morning coffee....

Ditto! I'm in my mid-thirties witha husband and two young kids...always loved his music, but was never really a "fan". Became totally obsessed after his "death" and read and researched about any and everything related to him; fell madly in L.O.V.E. (like you) and can't do without this forum! He IS magical! Something about him just captivates you and draws you right in. My eyes have been opened to the evils in this world because of him! I don't think anyone every has or ever will again have the kind of impact on my life that he has had! Of course my husband thinks I'm crazy, but that's inconsequential to me.  :lol:

With LOVE!!!!

SAME HERE!!! I JUST READ ALL THE POSTS AND IS AMAZING!!! WHAT IS HAPPENING??? I ALWAYS LIKE HIS MUSIC, THE WAY HE MOVES, HIS VOICE, HIS SMILE BUT NOW... I´M LOST!!! MY HUSBAND AND DAUGHTER ARE SEARCHING SOME PLACE NEAR HOME TO PUT ME IN BECAUSE MY PADDED CELL IS NOT ENOUGH! LOL! I'M 34 AND SO HAPPY TO BE HERE... LOVE!
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: suspicious mind on June 17, 2010, 02:14:09 PM
after reading all of these post and seeing so much likeness in myself only one thing stands out to me that i need to claify (on the part of myself i don't aim to speak for anyone else). i just want to go on record as making it clear that micheal was chosen also  and that he is not somehow the one doing the chosing.you don't have to agree with me , just know where i stand.L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: CC on June 17, 2010, 02:15:57 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
after reading all of these post and seeing so much likeness in myself only one thing stands out to me that i need to claify (on the part of myself i don't aim to speak for anyone else). i just want to go on record as making it clear that micheal was chosen also  and that he is not somehow the one doing the chosing.you don't have to agree with me , just know where i stand.L.O.V.E.
;) AGREE!!! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: steph on June 17, 2010, 02:26:47 PM
Quote from: "RK"
I'm another one.  There's no explaining it away. I am 51 years old next week and I have adult children a husband of 33 years and a responsible job. People say I'm practical and sensible. But not lately.  I've asked myself many times what  is wrong with me . I can't walk away from this.Obsession, compulsion, and addiction  all come to mind. Like others here, I read all I can, pray for MJ and the children, think of this constantly night and day. I'm checking on here before I have coffee in the morning. I could go on and on but it sounds like you guys know what I mean. This thread is comforting to know that
You are not alone.....I am here with you.....Though we're far apart......Your always in my heart.
Your telling me , i have been on the hoax site (the other one ) from june 26th last year!
i can`t believe that a whole year has passed and i still can`t let go of this hoax stuff and move on.It`s nice to know that others feel te same way.I wonder what keeps us here? it`s like some strange force that won`t let you give in until you find out what really happened.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: MissG on June 17, 2010, 02:38:28 PM
I should be the weird one here because at times I talked to him in "dreams" and it felt so real  :lol:  :lol:

Chosen? not probable. Affected that he is gone? big time  :D
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: 3292gold on June 17, 2010, 03:00:39 PM
I agree with the force idea. As for Mj being chosen, yes you often see signs, that He is a gift from God. He really does have alot of poses that are similar to Christ. I am not trying to get religious here, or anything . There is a video on youtube of Him singing Earth song, and at that end, He takes off His tattered clothes, and He is wearing all white, and kids come and hug Him. It sent chills down my spine. I think He might have been singing at MTV awards, I don't know which one, I wish I had the knowlege to post it. But darn if He didn' reming You of Jesus. So this force that keeps us together- what is the purpose? Are we part of a bigger plan? Why us? Why can't this group of people let go like everyone else? Why is it haunting us? I mean really, none of us probaby even knew Him, yet there is a force holding us?!!
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: mjj4ever777 on June 17, 2010, 03:50:01 PM
All I can say is WOW! It warms my heart to know that there are many of us who have had this same life changing experience. I'm 47, happily married with 6 children and 1 grandaughter. I also grew up with the Jackson 5 and then Michael, but was not a typical "fan" per say. Then while watching CNN on June 25th 2009, I saw that Michael had been rushed to the hospital, so I continued to watch the drama unfold and I found myself mesmerized, I couldn't stop watching and when they said he was dead, my heart broke and I was overcome with this...feeling, that I couldn't understand, but I knew I had to do some research on Michael and once I started researching and well, I haven't stopped since that day! Michael is on my mind all day, every day and I feel like I have had this spiritual "awakening" and that I have to spread Michael's message...Michael's mission has become My mission!

I guess I am one of the lucky ones, because I see some of you saying that your husbands and families think you're crazy. Well this is where I differ because my husband has also had the same spiritual awakening, that I have had, when it comes to Michael! I feel so blessed to be able to share all of my feelings about Michael with him knowing that Michael has touched his heart the same way he has touched mine. My husband and I both believe that love is the most important thing in our lives and we have taught  our children, the importance of love, because we feel so strongly about it and maybe that is why we both feel so close to Michael. All I know is that for some reason, we have both had this "life changing" experience and we both feel like we have been "chosen" to spread Michael's message and we are both proud to be members of Michael's "army of love".

It's really hard for me to put into words, how this whole "adventure" has changed my life, because my feelings run so deep, all I know is that I have never experienced anything like this before and I can't explain why it has happened to me or my husband, all I know is that we will be here for Michael to help him fight this fight, because the world as we know it is going to hell, fast, and its time that we all stand up for our rights! I want my children and grandchildren to live in a world full of love and peace, not hatred and war, but it is up to us to make that change. You just have to Believe...Believe in Michael and Believe in yourself and then together we WILL make this world a better place...a world full of LOVE!

Michael, if you happen to read this, I just want to say thank you for everything you have done for us. You will always be a part of my heart, my soul and my life... I love you... I really do!
Always yours,
Daynaxx
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Rita Hayworth on June 17, 2010, 04:56:44 PM
3292gold - I second all of your questions and think they are important. I believed that Michael was alive a long time ago so that issue for me was resolved. The greater issue then was the questions that you pose. I won't trivialize this as an obsession, addiction, etc., not for me anyway. There is something much more spiritual connected to this that has to do with a mission of healing. I have lots of thoughts but nothing concrete yet as to what my role in the mission is. But I believe that for those of us who feel they were called here spiritually (and that may not be everyone) then we have an obligation to continue to seek that "truth." There can be multiple roles intended by this for lots of reasons...it may not be the same. I know when I hear His voice. And whatever way God is using Michael and this hoax, I definitely know what I'm hearing and understanding is His words and His voice. For those who understand a "personal" relationship, that's exactly what that means. It's personal and individually unique for each of us. "I know my sheep and my sheep know me."
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: nefari on June 17, 2010, 05:14:20 PM
Forgive me if this double posts, am having some computer issues. But I am 46 years old and I have been loving Michael since 1st grade. My little friends and I used to stand in the lunch lines and clap our hands together like you do in Mary Mack but we would be singing Rockin Robin instead and the teachers would sometimes separate us at lunch because we would get so loud. We would be cutting out pictures of Michael and putting them in our book bags or taping them in our books  :lol:
But when I first heard of Michael passing away I fell into the worst depression, and I am a happy person usually, but I had found out about Wylie being dead and it all just came to a head and I wanted to die really, didn't want to eat or anything. But then I found this place and I started seeing all of the odd things that just don't add up. I also have got away from some really morbid forums where all they do is grieve and cry and I just cannot go through that any more day after day. But I tend to Wylie's crypt, which makes me soooo happy. Taking him flowers honestly saved me along with coming here and chatting with all of you. That's why I get so hurt when people laugh at my ideas and little lightbulbs, as off the wall as some may be, I still feel we can't leave anything over looked and I hope some people are laughing with me and not at me spitefully because I cherish the time I spend here talking about Michael. Ebay has been a huge mood lifter too. I collect all things Michael and it just makes me feel warmer and more comfy when I surround myself with his music, videos, photos etc...
But I will not give up even if I'm old and gray and similar to Hachi the dog years from now waiting on my Michael, even if I have to go to heaven to see him I will see him again. Love to all.
Nefari
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: paula-c on June 17, 2010, 07:30:23 PM
I read every post, and I think also that it is rare, especially when they say people who were never fans of Michael, I'm a fan of John Lennon and when I heard about his death, I hurt a lot, but I assumed he was dead, Michael is different there is a day not to think of it, in his messages in his life, the damage they did, in those moments I feel a lot of anger and pain, perhaps one of the reasons we have not forgotten it for the many injustices he suffered. :?
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: AminahYasmina on June 17, 2010, 07:49:52 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
I read every post, and I think also that it is rare, especially when they say people who were never fans of Michael, I'm a fan of John Lennon and when I heard about his death, I hurt a lot, but I assumed he was dead, Michael is different there is a day not to think of it, in his messages in his life, the damage they did, in those moments I feel a lot of anger and pain, perhaps one of the reasons we have not forgotten it for the many injustices he suffered. :?

Yes, I think you are right. It´s an unfinished chapter.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: dragonflylilies on June 17, 2010, 08:34:41 PM
I think we have been chosen.  I have never felt so deeply about someone before in all my life.  Everyone keeps telling me, he is just a performer how can you be so wrapped up over someone you never met?  I can't explain it at all.  I have been a HUGE fan of Michael's since I was 6 years old.  I had an MJ tshirt that I would wear day and night.  The only time it got washed was when I would fall asleep and my mom would take it off, wash it, dry it and put it back on me.  I just miss him sooooo much.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: airieslady on June 17, 2010, 10:16:37 PM
Wow!  I have chills reading about all of you!  I totally fit into this group here...59, just a casual lover of MJ's music... bought the Thriller vinyl and Bad when they first released and loved to dance to his music.  I thought at the time that Thriller video was the best thing ever and I guess I was right!  But when the trial was happening, I thought no way was this ever true and was so glad to see Michael dancing on that car!  Then he went away and I thought well, he needed to do this and thought not too much over those yrs.  When I saw him on 2006 World Awards, I thought he hardly sang a line and maybe his voice was gone, but was so happy and excited to see an appearance.  Like you all, I never saw him perform live and am soo sorry I didn't.  

Now, when he made the announcement of O2... I remember clearly, what?  there is something very strange about his behaviour and looks.  I thought OK, now, what has he gone and done to himself now?  This thought stayed in my mind from that day on.  I tried to get a ticket online for O2, but something was strange with that whole thing...would not let me.  Then the death announcement!  OH NO!  It just didn't sit right in my mind.  I felt so sad for someone I really didn't know and cried my eyes out at watching the Memorial.  I felt so bad and thought this can't be for real so started searching for information and that was the beginning of the MJHD site.  

I never thought about anything else so deeply and religiously as this whole hoax has opened my eyes to all that is happening in the world, which I look at in a more investigative way.  By the way, I worked for over 20 yrs in biomedical research labs in NJ and I am a very inquisitive type person.  After I got downsized in my job, I moved to Orlando and have worked at Disney for 17 yrs. there.  Yes, I am in the middle of a mindcontrol company,  but never was a Disney fanatic... I don't go into the parks much and have no desire to.  I work at one of the hotels and meet tons of guests.  People at work know I think MJ is still alive so they think I am a little crazy.  So I stopped talking about it.

I so feel we are a part of something BIG and yes, we should all meet somewhere in this world one day!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: suspicious mind on June 17, 2010, 10:43:20 PM
Quote from: "airieslady"
Wow!  I have chills reading about all of you!  I totally fit into this group here...59, just a casual lover of MJ's music... bought the Thriller vinyl and Bad when they first released and loved to dance to his music.  I thought at the time that Thriller video was the best thing ever and I guess I was right!  But when the trial was happening, I thought no way was this ever true and was so glad to see Michael dancing on that car!  Then he went away and I thought well, he needed to do this and thought not too much over those yrs.  When I saw him on 2006 World Awards, I thought he hardly sang a line and maybe his voice was gone, but was so happy and excited to see an appearance.  Like you all, I never saw him perform live and am soo sorry I didn't.  

Now, when he made the announcement of O2... I remember clearly, what?  there is something very strange about his behaviour and looks.  I thought OK, now, what has he gone and done to himself now?  This thought stayed in my mind from that day on.  I tried to get a ticket online for O2, but something was strange with that whole thing...would not let me.  Then the death announcement!  OH NO!  It just didn't sit right in my mind.  I felt so sad for someone I really didn't know and cried my eyes out at watching the Memorial.  I felt so bad and thought this can't be for real so started searching for information and that was the beginning of the MJHD site.  

I never thought about anything else so deeply and religiously as this whole hoax has opened my eyes to all that is happening in the world, which I look at in a more investigative way.  By the way, I worked for over 20 yrs in biomedical research labs in NJ and I am a very inquisitive type person.  After I got downsized in my job, I moved to Orlando and have worked at Disney for 17 yrs. there.  Yes, I am in the middle of a mindcontrol company,  but never was a Disney fanatic... I don't go into the parks much and have no desire to.  I work at one of the hotels and meet tons of guests.  People at work know I think MJ is still alive so they think I am a little crazy.  So I stopped talking about it.

I so feel we are a part of something BIG and yes, we should all meet somewhere in this world one day!  :mrgreen:

what do you mean that you couldn't get a ticket that it wouldn't let you?
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: airieslady on June 17, 2010, 10:56:13 PM
I tried several times to get a ticket and wouldn't go through... something about using Amex which I didn't have that CC.  It was the first time I ever not got a ticket for something.  Was just strange thing for me.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: suspicious mind on June 17, 2010, 11:37:00 PM
Quote from: "airieslady"
I tried several times to get a ticket and wouldn't go through... something about using Amex which I didn't have that CC.  It was the first time I ever not got a ticket for something.  Was just strange thing for me.
i have wondered if they might have had some way to fake the tickets selling without anyone actually getting any so there wouldn't be legal consequences .i mentioned it a while back, i just thought since it never went anywhere that it was a dumb thought on my part.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Good Lets Dance on June 18, 2010, 12:02:21 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "airieslady"
I tried several times to get a ticket and wouldn't go through... something about using Amex which I didn't have that CC.  It was the first time I ever not got a ticket for something.  Was just strange thing for me.
i have wondered if they might have had some way to fake the tickets selling without anyone actually getting any so there wouldn't be legal consequences .i mentioned it a while back, i just thought since it never went anywhere that it was a dumb thought on my part.

OK Guys this is Weird! Here's a suggestion: There is a Header on this site to "Ask Questions"...Why don't one of you (who tried to buy tickets) pose the question on that forum, Subject Line: Did You Try To Buy Tickets to The O2 Concert? tell that you were Unable to purchase and see how others respond.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: RK on June 18, 2010, 12:56:16 AM
My daughter had tickets. She's in UK. And she chose to get a refund that took ages she tells me.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Good Lets Dance on June 18, 2010, 01:10:26 AM
Quote from: "RK"
My daughter had tickets. She's in UK. And she chose to get a refund that took ages she tells me.

Thanks RK - This is the first I have heard of this Ticket Burp, and to Me it is significant and i wish to hear more about it, as I feel AEG is culpible in MJ's demise (as does Joe) so I'm interested in anything "Shady" you discover about AEG and ticket sales, etc. Thanks so much :P
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 18, 2010, 01:43:16 AM
Crying.. :cry:  :cry: .this feeling is so powerful. No-body else around me understands this.  Glad to be here amongst my new friends who have also been chosen to help spread his message.  xoxoxo
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: rag doll on June 18, 2010, 03:15:54 AM
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Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Sarahli on June 18, 2010, 06:56:51 AM
I don't know if we are the chosen people but I feel that it's God who puts love in our hearts and makes us love certain people. I've already asked myself several times why do I love Michael. I never met him, never talked to him, so why this unconditional love for him ? I always finish to tell myself that God wants me to love Michael Jackson.This is pure love. In a way maybe yes we are chosen to be part of this because this love we have for Michael is not here by meer chance. I'm 29 years old and I've always loved him. God bless him. God bless you all.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Michelle on June 18, 2010, 07:26:47 AM
WOW 3292gold, this was more than a great idea to start a topic like this, and i guess there was a topic also on the old MJHD forum about why people getting so obsessed with this whole MJ hoax story?
I belong to the minority with my 28 years, and i wasn't a huge Michael Jackson fan in my life, till june....I liked his music, loved his dance and the way he looked... :P
  But i didn't listen to his music each and every day or watched some video or concert or even search infos on the internet about him...
But fortunately my life has changed since last june, i mean i was already interested in those subjects which this hoax is trying to open our eyes about, but i can honestly say, i didn't know all those beautiful things about Michael, i can't find the words how special he is!!!
And i also hard to find words to describe the feeling that on this forum i found extremely kind and smart people who feels the same way, cause i think most of us have nobody among the family or friends who can completely understand the way we feel....
Honestly i still don't know why am i so very interested in the hoax and simply the best man in the world, but i know i will remain like this for my life, and i don't regret not one minute of my life which i've spent searching the truth and also discovering this beautiful magic - Michael Jackson!  :P  :P  :P
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: looking4truth on June 18, 2010, 08:27:02 AM
I have to spend some more time reading each and every post on here but I did read some and I will say I understand 100%. I wasn't a fanatic of Michael's prior to June 25th. I listened to his songs, loved his performances and short films but I never really went beyond that and I especially wasn't paying that much attention to him after HIStory album. I did purchase Invincible though when it came out. It's been a crazy, wild, spiritual ride. And I'm glad I'm not the only one being pulled towards this whole adventure without knowing why. I just feel in my gut, that I have to keep an eye on him. Lately, I haven't been as obsessed as I once was but I do read this at least 5 days out of the week. I also created a blog for my surreal adventure. The story would be too long to post here but anyone interested, you can start here: http://surrealmj.tumblr.com/post/574732 ... e-thus-far (http://surrealmj.tumblr.com/post/574732458/my-surreal-adventure-thus-far)

I've been fortunate to have close family and friends who I can talk to about this and they don't look at me like I'm crazy. They may not believe he is alive but they are not saying I'm wrong for thinking it. In fact, the more things come out, the more some of them are thinking ...well maybe he is alive. However, my experience goes beyond that. It goes to other metaphysical worlds that I cannot explain with concrete facts. I just know it to be true for me.

And I know that this adventure has made me a much better person so I have no regrets at all. None. And I hope you guys don't have any either because you are in the right space at this right time for reasons we may not know now but will probably be revealed later on.

Much L.O.V.E.!
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Lou on June 18, 2010, 08:32:16 AM
I see what you mean. I've been wondering the same. I was not an obsessed fan, and now it's almost a year, I think about MJ and this whole case everyday. I've asked myself -"why?", too many times, without an answer. Maybe there's a mistery behind it... :?:
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: suspicious mind on June 18, 2010, 09:42:55 AM
Quote from: "Good Lets Dance"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "airieslady"
I tried several times to get a ticket and wouldn't go through... something about using Amex which I didn't have that CC.  It was the first time I ever not got a ticket for something.  Was just strange thing for me.
i have wondered if they might have had some way to fake the tickets selling without anyone actually getting any so there wouldn't be legal consequences .i mentioned it a while back, i just thought since it never went anywhere that it was a dumb thought on my part.

OK Guys this is Weird! Here's a suggestion: There is a Header on this site to "Ask Questions"...Why don't one of you (who tried to buy tickets) pose the question on that forum, Subject Line: Did You Try To Buy Tickets to The O2 Concert? tell that you were Unable to purchase and see how others respond.

i wonder if this might be better pursued on a fan site. i am only on here .i t took me forever to do that.it is my understanding that there was a bit of a gap between the first proposed date and the rest.is that correct? it is also in my head that those other dates have not even come around as yet ,yes or no? my thinking is that if the later dates we made to appear to be sold out but no actual tickets were sold that there would be no legal issues. and having the choice between a refund and memoribilia the hit be that hard.i have no idea if there is a chance in you know where if i have a clue but it just came to my mind. :?:
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: FinlanDiana on June 18, 2010, 09:53:54 AM
the same thing... attracted to someone, just like a magnet.
I have heard of MJ music for years, heard all the hit songs and liked them..
but I never paid attention to him otherwise. June 25 really aroused..
Now I understand how wonderful music MJ did and how great MJ is itself  :P

also wonders what is this obsession? investigate and to know things  :roll:
Thanks for all, the adventure has been a real great so far  :P
but MJ could have already come back to lead "his people"  :lol:  even though we all already know how to live this life...
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: terror2k9 on June 18, 2010, 10:09:09 AM
Just like in the song cry "School the World!" The master teaches the students and will the students become masters themselves? Love shall lead us to that moment. Unconditional Love Will lead us to victory.
The whole event will be HIStory and we all can be a part. For this is our planet we are ripping apart!
I will be there with all my Heart,Love has always been the answer to all our problems.We are all one
so Michael when you BAM,we will all be by your side and we will All JAM! :D L.O.V.E

(I think about the generations
and they say they want to make it
a better place for our children and our children's children
so that they they they know it's a better world for them
and I think they can make it a better place)


There's A Place In
Your Heart
And I Know That It Is Love
And This Place Could
Be Much
Brighter Than Tomorrow
And If You Really Try
You'll Find There's No Need
To Cry
In This Place You'll Feel
There's No Hurt Or Sorrow

Cuz There Are Ways
To Get There
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Little Space
Make A Better Place

Heal The World
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

If You Want To Know Why
There's A Love That
Cannot Lie
Love Is Strong
It Only Cares For
Joyful Giving
If We Try
We Shall See
In This Bliss
We Cannot Feel
Fear Or Dread
We Stop Existing And
Start Living

Then It Feels That Always
Love's Enough For
Us Growing
So Make A Better World
Make A Better World...

Heal The World
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

And The Dream We Were
Conceived In
Will Reveal A Joyful Face
And The World We
Once Believed In
Will Shine Again In Grace
Then Why Do We Keep
Strangling Life
Wound This Earth
Crucify Its Soul
Though It's Plain To See
This World Is Heavenly
Be God's Glow

We Could Fly So High
Let Our Spirits Never Die
In My Heart
I Feel You Are All
My Brothers
Create A World With
No Fear
Together We'll Cry
Happy Tears
See The Nations Turn
Their Swords
Into Plowshares

We Could Really Get There
If You Cared Enough
For The Living
Make A Little Space
To Make A Better Place...

Heal The World
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

Heal The World
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

Heal The World
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

You And For Me

You And For Me
Make A Better Place
You And For Me
Make A Better Place
You And For Me
Make A Better Place
You And For Me
heal the world we live in
You And For Me
save it for our children
You And For Me
heal the world we live in
You And For Me
save it for our children
You And For Me
heal the world we live in
You And For Me
save it for our children
You And For Me
heal the world we live in
You And For Me
save it for our children
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: thepeacock2012 on June 18, 2010, 10:26:06 AM
Thriller was the first album I ever bought...and I have been hooked ever since...its funny that Michael loves children and if he knew what I used to do he might be upset with me...there is 6 years between my brother and I , I think i was 12 maybe 13 when I fell in love with Thriller..and my brother hated the song cause it scared the daylights out of him he was only 5 or 6...and I would play it just to get him upset!! LOL I was mean..lol

Anyway, Michael Jackson is someone that can almost not be described with words...He is magic....the ultimate performer...humanitarian, voice for children all around the world..He has taught me soooo much about life and how to live it especially since his (death)...I tried hard not believe all the lies the press printed about him....it made me sooo sad to hear those things and hear people around me say mean things about him...like they were attacking me personally.  Too me he was super human and when the tabloids started all the trash talking I have to admit I questioned my obsession for him...and those awful alligations...and then the Bashir documentary, I was totally confused I was like this isn't the Michael that I knew ....he would never let such a documentry put him in such a bad light....and then the alligations just made me question him....briefly....but then I said to myself no..don't believe it...there is somthing not right here and have been behind him 1000% ever since....and I know that the Michael I BELIEVE in is capable of HOAXING his death!!!! I know he has good reason for doing soooooo!!! Nuff said  :!: OH AND BY THE WAY I CAN'T WAIT TO TELL EVERYONE WHO EVER SAID SOMETHING BAD ABOUT MICHAEL ......I TOLD YOU SOOO... O>K that might a bit childish but I'll be thinking it!!!  Yes I am spreading his word the best way I know how...o.k that's it....I could go on and :P  on
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on June 18, 2010, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "airieslady"
Wow!  I have chills reading about all of you!  I totally fit into this group here...59, just a casual lover of MJ's music... bought the Thriller vinyl and Bad when they first released and loved to dance to his music.  I thought at the time that Thriller video was the best thing ever and I guess I was right!  But when the trial was happening, I thought no way was this ever true and was so glad to see Michael dancing on that car!  Then he went away and I thought well, he needed to do this and thought not too much over those yrs.  When I saw him on 2006 World Awards, I thought he hardly sang a line and maybe his voice was gone, but was so happy and excited to see an appearance.  Like you all, I never saw him perform live and am soo sorry I didn't.  

Now, when he made the announcement of O2... I remember clearly, what?  there is something very strange about his behaviour and looks.  I thought OK, now, what has he gone and done to himself now?  This thought stayed in my mind from that day on.  I tried to get a ticket online for O2, but something was strange with that whole thing...would not let me.  Then the death announcement!  OH NO!  It just didn't sit right in my mind.  I felt so sad for someone I really didn't know and cried my eyes out at watching the Memorial.  I felt so bad and thought this can't be for real so started searching for information and that was the beginning of the MJHD site.  

I never thought about anything else so deeply and religiously as this whole hoax has opened my eyes to all that is happening in the world, which I look at in a more investigative way.  By the way, I worked for over 20 yrs in biomedical research labs in NJ and I am a very inquisitive type person.  After I got downsized in my job, I moved to Orlando and have worked at Disney for 17 yrs. there.  Yes, I am in the middle of a mindcontrol company,  but never was a Disney fanatic... I don't go into the parks much and have no desire to.  I work at one of the hotels and meet tons of guests.  People at work know I think MJ is still alive so they think I am a little crazy.  So I stopped talking about it.

I so feel we are a part of something BIG and yes, we should all meet somewhere in this world one day!  :mrgreen:

what do you mean that you couldn't get a ticket that it wouldn't let you?


Im in the UK it was very difficult getting tickets even if you had prregistrion codes issued to you, they didnt work on the most part.  I never did get a direct ticket from ticket master.  I got a ticket via eay where there were lots of tickets offered forsale, cost me double the ticket price for two tickets for August Show.  and then it never happened fortunately ebay refunded the money, the ticket seller never refunded it, even though there were MJ fans selling spare tickets.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: suspicious mind on June 18, 2010, 11:04:08 AM
Quote from: "terror2k9"
Just like in the song cry "School the World!" The master teaches the students and will the students become masters themselves? Love shall lead us to that moment. Unconditional Love Will lead us to victory.
The whole event will be HIStory and we all can be a part. For this is our planet we are ripping apart!
I will be there with all my Heart,Love has always been the answer to all our problems.We are all one
so Michael when you BAM,we will all be by your side and we will All JAM! :D L.O.V.E

(I think about the generations
and they say they want to make it
a better place for our children and our children's children
so that they they they know it's a better world for them
and I think they can make it a better place)


There's A Place In
Your Heart
And I Know That It Is Love
And This Place Could
Be Much
Brighter Than Tomorrow
And If You Really Try
You'll Find There's No Need
To Cry
In This Place You'll Feel
There's No Hurt Or Sorrow

Cuz There Are Ways
To Get There
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Little Space
Make A Better Place

Heal The World
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

If You Want To Know Why
There's A Love That
Cannot Lie
Love Is Strong
It Only Cares For
Joyful Giving
If We Try
We Shall See
In This Bliss
We Cannot Feel
Fear Or Dread
We Stop Existing And
Start Living

Then It Feels That Always
Love's Enough For
Us Growing
So Make A Better World
Make A Better World...

Heal The World
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

And The Dream We Were
Conceived In
Will Reveal A Joyful Face
And The World We
Once Believed In
Will Shine Again In Grace
Then Why Do We Keep
Strangling Life
Wound This Earth
Crucify Its Soul
Though It's Plain To See
This World Is Heavenly
Be God's Glow

We Could Fly So High
Let Our Spirits Never Die
In My Heart
I Feel You Are All
My Brothers
Create A World With
No Fear
Together We'll Cry
Happy Tears
See The Nations Turn
Their Swords
Into Plowshares

We Could Really Get There
If You Cared Enough
For The Living
Make A Little Space
To Make A Better Place...

Heal The World
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

Heal The World
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

Heal The World
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me

You And For Me

You And For Me
Make A Better Place
You And For Me
Make A Better Place
You And For Me
Make A Better Place
You And For Me
heal the world we live in
You And For Me
save it for our children
You And For Me
heal the world we live in
You And For Me
save it for our children
You And For Me
heal the world we live in
You And For Me
save it for our children
You And For Me
heal the world we live in
You And For Me
save it for our children


though i have always been dazzeled by thriller this song was the big fat hook for me.it was only the beginning of discovery
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: jenwren20 on June 19, 2010, 02:45:55 AM
i don't know about the rest of you, but i can't pinpoint the exact moment i felt this wasn't for real. I can remember feeling crushed for about a week after MJ's "death" which really surprised me as even though i had always loved his music and grew up in the 80's/90's with him, i couldn't work out why it had this kind of effect on me.
I even thought that all the Elvis fans that thought he was still alive were a little odd :lol:
But somehow, i found myself delving into the possibility that he hadn't died.
And suddenly, found myself enthralled.
Along the way, i have "met" some wonderful people, both here and on twitter and facebook.
So, long story short, if nothing else and if (god forbid) the BAM never comes, i will be forever thankful to MJ for pairing my up with such lovely, like-minded friends from all over the world and for opening my eyes to a world i never knew existed.

L.O.V.E to you all, my friends <3 <3 <3
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: katson45 on June 19, 2010, 04:18:49 AM
Thank you ladies...I loved reading this ...Thankfully, I live alone,not obligated to explain myself to a spouse and couldn't  even if I chose to...I simply have the same absolute 'knowing' that you've all written about here..almost supernatural insight into the 'real' agenda being carried out on this planet..which makes me ask, why this intensely moving, earth shaking reaction?  For me, it just is and I just accept it without understanding why. This is so out of character for me who always needed to know all the turns in the road that got me here. Well, this time I don't and it's really ok....This last year has been a kind of 'course in miracles'..glad I enrolled but have no clue why...and with such great company! Thank you everyone..I love all of you, kathy
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: TheRunningGirl on June 19, 2010, 07:33:24 PM
3292gold this is a great question!
Like many of the other friendly contributors to this thread, I have been wondering why all of a sudden I developed a deep admiration and respect for Michael and an obsessive interest in finding out the Truth and... making the World a better place. I am a woman in her mid 40's, with often a hectic professional schedule.
Prior to Michael's death, I had relatively little interest in "the man", I had a few CD's and that was it! I heard about Michael coming to the O2, I found the announcement for the concerts somewhat "surreal" and never thought about getting tickets; I carried on with my busy life instead!  Then Michael "died" and a close friend (who happens to be a musician) told me that the world had lost a genius and once of its nicest guy, this got me curious and ... I did my research work, bought numerous CDs and DVDs and discovered an artist and man I never knew and cried watching the memorial.  It could have been the end of the matter as I got back into my busy life!
But it was not meant to be! One weekend in July (a Sunday late evening), I went for a run in one of the Royal Parks as I do often (I am the Running Girl  :D ), when I saw from a distance somebody with an "unusual" look... I continued my run and passed this person (in the meanwhile a car had stopped nearby to talk with this person)... then the car went and this person called me... and I felt my legs wobbling because the gentle American voice and the looks made me think of Michael and I just could not think straight anymore, I was in a state of total shock...
This is the event that started my search for the truth and eventually got me on MJDHI.

Do I believe that we may be the chosen people? Everything happens for a reason and Michael's message is definitely one I believe strongly in and I am prepared to stand up for... so who knows  ;)

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: billiejean17 on June 19, 2010, 08:40:17 PM
I will second that!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: fedeDA on June 20, 2010, 04:55:55 AM
Quote from: "Lou"
I see what you mean. I've been wondering the same. I was not an obsessed fan, and now it's almost a year, I think about MJ and this whole case everyday. I've asked myself -"why?", too many times, without an answer. Maybe there's a mistery behind it... :?:

Same thing for me. I can not explain well for that English is not my language, but I recognize myself in all that you are telling, and Michael changed my life.
Title: Re: Are We the Chosen People?
Post by: gwynned on June 20, 2010, 10:46:44 AM
WOW!  I have read each and every post and am deeply grateful to everyone.  I fit the pattern and like someone mentioned may have to enter a 12 step program, but only after my kids agree to release me from the mental hospital they've arranged for me.  It all hit me one day after seeing TII.  One day, I felt the rapture.  Not being a Christian, I was a bit taken aback by this but was so certain lift off was imminent, I called my two children to be with me so they wouldn't be left behind.  Poor things!  I can only imagine what they thought.  I had to up the bandwidth on my satellite to accommodate all my Youtube viewings and extra tissue to soak up all the tears.  Months later I feel a certain unease when I've not had computer access for too long.  

I have wondered for a long time how people I know and love can see these videos (I've begged friends to watch some of them) and not see what I see.  I have a theory for which I would love some feedback.  Some people in the New Age realm have suggested that we are now connecting to our 'star families.'  Despite the ridicule, I KNOW that something profound has happened that has, at least temporarily, separated me from the rest of the world and placed me here with all of you who share this great love and appreciation for a man whose talent, wisdom and heart is unfathomable.  Like many of you, I've never had such unwavering faith in anything before, and so perhaps we are here waiting for our next assignment.  Sending a massive shout out of LOVE to all of you other crazies....Maggie
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