Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Theories => The Double Theory => Topic started by: samsuperb on June 12, 2010, 10:02:14 AM
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What the hell?? I didnt realize there were two mj's, wtf is going on? Or was it a mirror reflection
its starts at 0;52
[youtube:1bls5je8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIQPoAAhVg&NR=1[/youtube:1bls5je8]
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its just a mirror inside the store , lol :lol:
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its just a mirror inside the store , lol :lol:
but there movement are different though, look at it agian
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i have , its been discussed in a another thread.
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It's NOT a mirror reflection..
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It's NOT a mirror reflection..
Exactly, its no damn reflection, its two mj's. Im not blind :? All I want to know what hell is going on
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[youtube:3mzo5xk5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIlJHctKgJQ[/youtube:3mzo5xk5]
To me this is not a mirror reflection either, the movements are different.
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Whats the point of MJ to use a double inside the store ? with the same cloths and such ? :lol: :lol:
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OMG never saw this...Definately NOT a mirror reflection as the "two MJ's" are moving totally differently
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*facepalm*
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It's a mirror reflection, watch closely, they're both pointing, both holding a magazine and there's one of his kids reflection too..
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It's a mirror reflection, watch closely, they're both pointing, both holding a magazine and there's one of his kids reflection too..
yeah ! mj´s kids have doubles inside the store ?? :lol:
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it is a double!!! On the left you see mj hodling a magazine or a newspaper, on the right you see mj holding NOTHING. It seems to me that the right mj was trying to mimic the left mj, but he forgot to get a newspaper :lol:
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It's NOT a mirror reflection..
OK, I watched it really closely and it IS a mirror reflection..
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It's NOT a mirror reflection..
OK, I watched it really closely and it IS a mirror reflection..
I didn't even have to watch that closely to tell that it wasn't a reflection. I don't understand how a reflection would be doing different things.
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It's a mirror reflection, watch closely, they're both pointing, both holding a magazine and there's one of his kids reflection too..
you cant look forward and have the mirror image look forward aswell, the image would then be of his backside...not his front...
its not a mirror image...
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is not reflection of any mirror...are not the same movements..and people surrounding the two mjs are different...is the mj's double...dont be blind .....and be open minded!
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I watched to several times over at first i thought no way not 2 MJ's as i dont go for that "doubles" bit too well
I figured out that my internet connection was a bit slow, causing the video to slow down and look a bit choppy hence what i thought i was was 2 different things
I now see no it is not 2 Michael's. There is only 1 Michael
It is a reflection from the mirror
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imo the movements are different....
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read this thread
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6013&hilit=ed+hardy+store
It is a mirror! End of story ! ;)
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1354/mirrory.jpg)
Just watch !!
It is a reflection of MJ , trust me.
In my class we did try this on a lesson . Think about it , at "theme parks" are are some " activities" called " The Mirror Room" with like 40 mirrors inside and it reflect you differently :) Just my two cents , sorry for my bad grammar :) Hope you understand this , Just my opinion
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I dont need to trust you becuase i know what i seeing, how come the right mj isnt holding a newspaper like the mj on the left?
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The more i watch it the more confused i get... :roll:
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Mirror sorry folks not a double
Two of this girl too
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/phpSVEkCtPM.jpg)
Two Michaels but also two Princes
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/phpcQKBNNPM.jpg)
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The Ed Hardy Shopping Adventure is a mirror illusion. In fact there is only one MJ (roe eye) shopping with the kids. The mirror is from floor to ceiling and is pointing into the corner behind the white door (left in the pictures).
It is a mirror at an around 45° degree angle - that's why we are confused.
The letters of LOS ANGELES (that do appear above the door in the mirror but not above the real door) are printed on the mirror. If you look very closely, you will notice the mirror jointings from top to bottom in the area at right.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4686867385_2baee70fb5.jpg)
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=9246&start=650#p178956
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Its not a double, its a reflection. both do have the magazines in hand, just keep pausing it you will see it. I've seen a pic from a diff angle, and you can see the wall is a mirrored wall, when i find it, i'll edit and add to this post.
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yup 120% a mirror reflection :)
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OK..let'S forget the double here and listen at the end of the vid when michael is going out the last sotre and get in the SUV...you can hear someone shouting about Farrah Fawcet....did'nt they died the same day?!
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Mirror sorry folks not a double
Two Michaels but also two Princes
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/phpcQKBNNPM.jpg)
the problem that i see with this pictures is that how can michael and his son reflect together but the black guy does not reflect with them he is standing just as close to michael as prince. im with mo on this one its not a reflection.
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For those that are so certain it's a reflection: please look at the picture below and explain som things to me:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/no_mirror.jpg)
Why is there only a reflection of Mike, and not of the bodyguard or the guy in the white shirt?
How is it possible that he is watching his own back?
Another one, same spot, no mirror reflection:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/no_mirror_2.jpg)
How is that possible?
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Well , some one in L.A go to that store and check ! . HAAHAHHA!!! :D
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yup 120% a mirror reflection :)
yepp, I agree :)
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REPOST from the Thisisalmostit thread
There is something not right about this video. It is not just Michael that is doubled but the children too. In that scene the duplicate Michael and kids just appears and disappears. It seems that someone has manipulated the original Hollywood TV video before uploading it. This is really weird...
The video is ZOOMED IN on Michael then at about 1:56 in the original video there is a jerk as if the video has been cut and edited and we are suddenly viewing ZOOMED OUT video and the doubled images start after that between 1:57 and 2:02. At about 2:03 or so and we have the same sort of flicker in the video again and it ZOOMS BACK IN ON MICHAEL. But there is no Transitional video showing the zooming in and out, it is instant. One second Zoomed In the next Zoomed Out.
It appears someone is trying to make us believe that there are two Michaels shopping that day, when in fact it is actually manipulated video.
I took 30+ screen shots and if that is a real double of Michael, I will eat my shoe cause the kids are doubled and so are the other shoppers.
Screen shot of 2:03 where the video jumps/flickers
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/phpd6q6CEPM.jpg)
I have sent a message to Hollywood TV on youtube days ago regarding this. I doubt I will receive a response but you never know :lol:
hollywoodtv
Michael Jackson and His Masked Children Shop at Ed Hardy video
Something is not right with the video entitled "Michael Jackson and His Masked Children Shop at Ed Hardy" that was uploaded to your channel on April 27, 2009. Could someone at Hollywood TV please explain to me why at about 1:56 in this video there is a jerk as if the video has been cut and edited. Then Michael and his children are doubled?
These duplicated images start after that between 1:57 and 2:02. At about 2:03 or so and we have the same sort of flicker in the video again. It seems someone is trying to make it appear as if there are two Michaels shopping that day, when in fact it is actually manipulated video.
Why has this video manipulated before it was uploaded and who did this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJ_fA15 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJ_fA15) ... re=related
I patiently await a response as this seems very unusual...
Thank you
Serenity
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Mirror sorry folks not a double
Two of this girl too
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/phpSVEkCtPM.jpg)
Two Michaels but also two Princes
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/phpcQKBNNPM.jpg)
yes
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/edhardy/094.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/edhardy/094.jpg)
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pics from the store.
it could just be an reflection , take a look at these pics
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/edhardy/014.jpg
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/edhardy/023.jpg
it is just a mirror
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/edhardy/013.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror
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it seems to be a reflection and it is not only MJ and Prince reflected, i think the lady mannequin is also there.
given the way mannequin is reflected the mirror might be like 45 degree angle
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/manekin.jpg)
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/manekinreflection.jpg)
other people may not appear in the mirror as with such mirror position and angle, they might not be captured by it
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When you watch the video at 0.54 you see that both MJ's look to the right. From 0.54 till 0.56 you see that only the left MJ turns his face toward us.
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5602/61719657.jpg) (http://img80.imageshack.us/i/61719657.jpg/) (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8772/m22j.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/m22j.jpg/)
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OK..let'S forget the double here and listen at the end of the vid when michael is going out the last sotre and get in the SUV...you can hear someone shouting about Farrah Fawcet....did'nt they died the same day?!
OK..let'S forget the double here and listen at the end of the vid when michael is going out the last sotre and get in the SUV...you can hear someone shouting about Farrah Fawcet....did'nt they died the same day?!
If you check out the Michael's video section i had posted about that from a totally DIFFERENT video. Thought that was REALLY strange. They asked Michael if he was going to see Farrah Fawcett
Could this audio be from something totally different? Here is Michael and his kids shopping once again. Michael no mask but the kids are wearing theirs
[youtube:4w1kbtos]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OQ7WbbvTmA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:4w1kbtos]
Link: viewtopic.php?f=55&t=9576 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=9576)
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^^ ok, that's very scary :shock:
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There are definitely 2 mikes, the reason it can't be just a reflection is because the people that's with the mike on the left are not the same people on the right, for example the guy with the red shirt. I believe the mike and kid doubles were for when the left so the real ones didn't get followed by the paps.
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Another thing... look at the wall behind them from left to right you see a shelf, a mannequin, I can't make out what the one things is, but then a door and looks like another entrance or something, how come those aren't doubled?
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We talked about this months ago I am pretty sure the general feeling there were two michaels I can see two michaels it is not a reflection he must have been using a decoy that day
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There are definitely 2 mikes, the reason it can't be just a reflection is because the people that's with the mike on the left are not the same people on the right, for example the guy with the red shirt. I believe the mike and kid doubles were for when the left so the real ones didn't get followed by the paps.
As I stated in a previous post there seems to be some sort of edit on this video. I am wondering if there has been two separate videos spliced together; two camera shots as the video has a noticeable edit point at about 1:56 of the original long version of this video. Also As I stated previously we are first ZOOMED in on Michael then instantly ZOOMED out without any transition or panning out of the camera. There is also no transition of the video just a jerk or flicker. It is not one continuous unaltered video. I make hoax videos I notice these kinds of things.
FRAME BY FRAME
1:56: Both Michael and the security guy seem to be on the RIGHT SIDE OF THE STORE and the Camera is ZOOMED IN. The security guy is using his cell phone
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/156a.jpg)
1:56 Next Frame: Michael is out of view behind a customer but we still the Security guy, still on his phone
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/156b.jpg)
1:56 Next Frame: All of sudden we are ZOOMED OUT. The camera did not pan out and people are NOW duplicated. The same Security guy now appears to be on the LEFT SIDE OF THE STORE. The security guy is no longer on his phone but we don't see him end the call and remove the phone from his ear, put it away etc. Please also notice the differences between people in the previous screen shot and this one. This reminds me of TMZ's little photo articles called "SPOT THE DIFFERENCES" or something like that.
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/156c.jpg)
As I also said previously there is some sort of edit done as can be seen from the screen shot captured when the duplication of Michael in that area of the store ends.
Screen shot of 2:03 where the video sort of jumps a second time and creates a blurred image
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/phpd6q6CEPM.jpg)
Not two Michaels mirrors and video manipulation.