Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: samsuperb on June 11, 2010, 11:43:56 AM
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Im done believeing if he doesnt come back in June, at the moment Im getting tired of this so called death hoax...All these things right now thats coming out about randy on CNN, Joe suing somebody, comic book, the Gary project, the new music that is coming out, the tribute, everthing that is mj related. It feels like he is dead. :|
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Don't lose hope NOW, it's been a year and we have so much PROOF! Besides, he said "see you in July" so don't worry if he doesn't bam in June.
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Dont take this the wrong way cause I really don't want to offend anyone.
Isn't believing michael is alive enough? What if he really IS in some sort of witness protection programm? He can't just set a date to say "ok that date i want you guys to arrest this and that person because i need to come back for my fans " now does he? Those kind of things take time, for now I will believe he is alive even if he doesn't comes back on 25th of June, just knowing he is alive is enough for me :D and will get me through those days. Remember he doesn't OWE us anything.
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I hate to admit it, but I'm starting to feel the same way. I really do not feel the family would go through all this for a hoax, but maybe would to keep his memory alive and make as much money as possible. Look at how long Elvis has been kept "alive" to make money. Sad, but true. :( :(
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I hate to admit it, but I'm starting to feel the same way. I really do not feel the family would go through all this for a hoax, but maybe would to keep his memory alive and make as much money as possible. Look at how long Elvis has been kept "alive" to make money. Sad, but true. :( :(
mmm i wont stop beliving that he is alive, but i will let go of the hoax-forums on june 26th... or i fear that i vill be here forever and ever...
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:roll: :roll: :roll:
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I will not stop believing he's gone right from 26th june, but i will not hope for a come back after july. Something tells me this is it, we're not gonna see him again, i don't know why but this thought just scares me. By that i didn't mean that i feel he really is gone but that we might not see him again, like... no bam. But this is true too that i strongly believe that if he's really alive he will come back. So if he doesn't, i think as time will pass by, i will start accepting that he's gone. My mind wouldn't think of the inconsistencies, the clues, nothing... It will just accept what is supposed to be the truth. I believe if Michael is alive, he wouldn't let us suffer this much. But i also believe in God, i'm not very religious but i believe in God with all my heart and my soul. I believe if Michael was really gone, God wouldn't let me hang in here like this for this long... I believe God would've given me a sign to stop. Please don't judge me for that, it's just my faith doing the job for me. Love to all.
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u know, I wont give up.. I feel that on june 25th we're gonna have a BIG clue...
but sometimes.. I feel like an idiot, waitin for someone to comeback, someone that's probably dead :?
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Dont take this the wrong way cause I really don't want to offend anyone.
Isn't believing michael is alive enough? What if he really IS in some sort of witness protection programm? He can't just set a date to say "ok that date i want you guys to arrest this and that person because i need to come back for my fans " now does he? Those kind of things take time, for now I will believe he is alive even if he doesn't comes back on 25th of June, just knowing he is alive is enough for me :D and will get me through those days. Remember he doesn't OWE us anything.
WHAT I have been hearing, is he may come back in 2011 not this year. In my opionion it is too soon for him to come back. Anyways if he is alive, it will be the most wonderful thing, but if he is dead may he rest in peace. I think we are putting all our energy, and emphasism when he will come back. Let it be, when we least expect it that's when he will come back.
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June 25th is two weeks from today and marks the 1 yr anniversary. Many tributes are scheduled for television, radio and in concerts all over the world. People will be anxiously watching those tributes while waiting for the man to return that day. I predict that there will be a mass exodus from the hoax forums on June 26th.
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Im not giving up...for me there is just too much proof...and if you really think about it a year isn't that long...when i first started beLIEving i prepared myself for at least a few years...we really don't even know if there will be a BAM...although i do believe there will be...i just think for now...Mikey just needs his rest...gosh it's the first break he's had in 45 years :!: or maybe he's super busy preeparing for BAMSday...who knows really...id like to think he's getting some well deserved R&R for the time being :D :D :D
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Bam:
B1. If MJ never does bam: how is he going to succeed in getting the main messages (EOW, NWO, etc) to the billions in the world?
B2. If you accept the clues which show that MJ is alive: then why don’t you accept that the very same clues (in many cases) also show that he will be back (bam)?
B3. TIAI says that there will be a bamsday, the only question is when. So is this reliable (if you say no, then please answer T1, T2, & T3, next)?
TIAI:
T1. How did TS end up with the http://www.ThisIsAlsoIt.com domain? If you say it was just a coincidence, then what are the odds (how many other MJ fans are there, including non-believers, who could’ve bought that domain after the Huffington Post article came out)?
T2. If TS is merely a hoax investigator, without any special source for hoax information: then why for nearly a year now did nobody else figure out the seven layers in “THIS IS IT” (as well as most of the other numerology and timing—777, 999, 1776, 1998, etc)?
T3. Can you explain all 18 in 5-12, below? And if you say that they are all coincidences: then can you demonstrate that you understand how to calculate the statistics, and show your calculations for the odds of all 18 by chance (like I did above, with 12:21:04 for the 911 call)?
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For me its not about a date.. its how i feel in my heart and my soul. I am beginning to think that maybe i was in total denial and i couldnt concieve the thought.
Ive been a lot calmer these past couple of months and think i have done my crying and am beginning to accept. I think he may have died... i know that is so sad. I wont leave this forum as i still want answers and i will investigate until i get the truth. But it seems so real in my heart now, and nearly a year later my mind is finally beginning to allow acceptance.
He will always be alive in my heart. Always. Maybe, in a very sad way, death was kind for him.. a way out.. now (if he has died) he can sleep and rest for ever. No more work, no more torture, no more pain, no more harassment.
Im finding it harder now to believe that MJ would do this to his fans, that he would allow so much sadness and pain to continue. I am also finding it harder to accept he would allow so many people to lie and cover for him.
Maybe the inconsistencies and the coincidences have come about because this is a murder conspiracy.. and Sony want the hoax to stay valid to hike up sales and interests and take the heat of them and all the others that may have been involved in his death.
Im just being honest, so dont hate on me. I dont want it to be true, but my heart is beginning to turn this way now. :cry:
My heart and mind have been full of sadness and confusion for so long now. Ive begun to let the sadness go and take the joy from his music and videos and also to take the lesson of inspiration from him.
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don't cha think a return on the anniversary would sort of lack imagination? just my thoughts.
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We all will have Michael in our hearts forever. No one will ever take his place. Just too much going on just to make money. I find it hard to believe that Katherine will not stop this auction of Michael's cherished momento's of his life-time memories. I'm sorry, but wouldn't a mother want to keep those things forever? I know I would. Someone tell me please, that this is NOT being done for MORE money :( :( :( My God, where does it end? It makes me sick because everytime you turn around, more things are being planned to make money. What about the deal signed with Sony for 250 million until 2017? Do you really think Michael could possibily return before this? Absolutely not. I fear that Michael is no longer with us meaning either passed or to never return. Nothing else makes much sense.
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Bam:
B1. If MJ never does bam: how is he going to succeed in getting the main messages (EOW, NWO, etc) to the billions in the world?
B2. If you accept the clues which show that MJ is alive: then why don’t you accept that the very same clues (in many cases) also show that he will be back (bam)?
B3. TIAI says that there will be a bamsday, the only question is when. So is this reliable (if you say no, then please answer T1, T2, & T3, next)?
TIAI:
T1. How did TS end up with the http://www.ThisIsAlsoIt.com domain? If you say it was just a coincidence, then what are the odds (how many other MJ fans are there, including non-believers, who could’ve bought that domain after the Huffington Post article came out)?
T2. If TS is merely a hoax investigator, without any special source for hoax information: then why for nearly a year now did nobody else figure out the seven layers in “THIS IS IT” (as well as most of the other numerology and timing—777, 999, 1776, 1998, etc)?
T3. Can you explain all 18 in 5-12, below? And if you say that they are all coincidences: then can you demonstrate that you understand how to calculate the statistics, and show your calculations for the odds of all 18 by chance (like I did above, with 12:21:04 for the 911 call)?
Thanks Mo!!! Everyone keeps forgetting these things! :roll:
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I don't think he's coming back. So if June comes and goes and nothing happens it wouldn't change my mind about him being alive. I hope I'm wrong and he does come back. Although I have to admit I have been having doubts about the hoax lately.
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[youtube:12leo3ht]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvYygjcMDdQ[/youtube:12leo3ht]
In Our Darkest Hour
In My Deepest Despair
Will You Still Care?
Will You Be There?
In My Trials
And My Tripulations
Through Our Doubts
And Frustrations
In My Violence
In My Turbulence
Through My Fear
And My Confessions
In My Anguish And My Pain
Through My Joy And My Sorrow
In The Promise Of Another Tomorrow
I'll Never Let You Part
For You're Always In My Heart.
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But........How long ago was this written ?????
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But........How long ago was this written ?????
It's from the Dangerous album, that was released in 1991.
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KEEP THE FAITH!!!
THIS "MAKE ME" "BELIEVE" "AGAIN"
MAKE.BELIEVE
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I will just keep praying in my heart that Michael will one day give a sign that he is okay. That is what I want more than anything else and what I'm holding on for. I also don't think that Michael will ever consider coming back to re-live the horror of media assaults and every other unfair act against him. He has faced certain adversity and almost lost his freedom simply because of his super stardom. If he has had time to heal from it all, it would be suicide to go through it all again. It would surely kill him. For all practical purposes, Michael Jackson, the super nova, as we knew him is, I fear, indeed dead. I never expect to see him in all his splendor ever again. But Michael Jackson, the human, the father, the son I feel might one day unexpectedly make an appearance and all who love and believe will know him, will not question and will not judge. I promised 1 year. I intend to keep it. After June 25th, I will no longer be actively participating in any forums. I will hang up my boxing gloves, and concede. But I don't intend to disappear and will be available to assist in any endeavor towards rectifying any wrongs committed against his name and his legacy. But I've got to get back to me. When and if Michael ever returns, if i still breathe, I'll be there to tell him just one more time, I have always loved you more and you are still the ONLY one who rocks my world and leaves me speechless :cry:
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I will not stop believing he's gone right from 26th june, but i will not hope for a come back after july. Something tells me this is it, we're not gonna see him again, i don't know why but this thought just scares me. By that i didn't mean that i feel he really is gone but that we might not see him again, like... no bam. But this is true too that i strongly believe that if he's really alive he will come back. So if he doesn't, i think as time will pass by, i will start accepting that he's gone. My mind wouldn't think of the inconsistencies, the clues, nothing... It will just accept what is supposed to be the truth. I believe if Michael is alive, he wouldn't let us suffer this much. But i also believe in God, i'm not very religious but i believe in God with all my heart and my soul. I believe if Michael was really gone, God wouldn't let me hang in here like this for this long... I believe God would've given me a sign to stop. Please don't judge me for that, it's just my faith doing the job for me. Love to all.
I feel the same way, Farhat.
Sometimes I think Michael being just can't be true and that it's too farfetched. But then I think of all the inconsistencies and the lack of emotion of his family.
Call me selfish, but I do want to see him again. :(
Sigh...I'm getting a little tired of this hoax...But Michael I will be there.
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When you're down think of all we found out! There are more things making us believe this is a hoax and he's alive rather than dead.
Check this: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10816 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10816)
Come on people! You can't abandon this now!!
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For me its not about a date.. its how i feel in my heart and my soul. I am beginning to think that maybe i was in total denial and i couldnt concieve the thought.
Ive been a lot calmer these past couple of months and think i have done my crying and am beginning to accept. I think he may have died... i know that is so sad. I wont leave this forum as i still want answers and i will investigate until i get the truth. But it seems so real in my heart now, and nearly a year later my mind is finally beginning to allow acceptance.
He will always be alive in my heart. Always. Maybe, in a very sad way, death was kind for him.. a way out.. now (if he has died) he can sleep and rest for ever. No more work, no more torture, no more pain, no more harassment.
Im finding it harder now to believe that MJ would do this to his fans, that he would allow so much sadness and pain to continue. I am also finding it harder to accept he would allow so many people to lie and cover for him.
Maybe the inconsistencies and the coincidences have come about because this is a murder conspiracy.. and Sony want the hoax to stay valid to hike up sales and interests and take the heat of them and all the others that may have been involved in his death.
Im just being honest, so dont hate on me. I dont want it to be true, but my heart is beginning to turn this way now. :cry:
My heart and mind have been full of sadness and confusion for so long now. Ive begun to let the sadness go and take the joy from his music and videos and also to take the lesson of inspiration from him.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't care if he comes back in June or not. I would like to know that he is safe wherever he is nowadays. He doesn't have to perform again. He can go and produce movies or music and change the venue to something much better than what the music and movie industry have been providing to the public. Everyone is remaking was previously done. I too, am no longer sad. I was just listening to his Bad CD. I love Just Friends that he collaborated with Stevie Wonder. Michael made timeless music and videos that will never surpass time. I will always hold a special place in my heart for him. Keep the Faith! :)
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I don't think he's coming back. So if June comes and goes and nothing happens it wouldn't change my mind about him being alive. I hope I'm wrong and he does come back. Although I have to admit I have been having doubts about the hoax lately.
Me too :cry:
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Im done believeing if he doesnt come back in June, at the moment Im getting tired of this so called death hoax...All these things right now thats coming out about randy on CNN, Joe suing somebody, comic book, the Gary project, the new music that is coming out, the tribute, everthing that is mj related. It feels like he is dead. :|
Its not about "us" its about Michael, we have to have patience and faith that the "truth will prevail" its been 11 months now, its not time to give up. ;)
Its all for L.O.V.E. and sometimes that is tough L.O.V.E. its just one of those difficult times.
One Love
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Maybe he wants to make even the BELIEVERS FEEL that he is really gone and then BAM - to make surprise also for the BELIEVERS?
I mean, for us? 8-)
What a surprise would that be If you already knew what you were going to get?
We must lose hope to get our surprise!
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Well, I hope so... :?
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if he doesn't came back in june,maybe There will always still be a part of me that will believe in the hoax,and that he is alive...but I think It will be just a soft feeling that I will carry in my heart,but I will take some rest from this adventure that,til now, has involved my heart,my thoughts,my time, definely TOO MUCH..
It is for my brain health...
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If Michael doesn't be back by July 23rd (the last BAM date I can think of), I will not be coming to these death hoax sites as much as I do now, and that's a lot, but still... :| *somehow gets straight-jacket back from cleaners and puts on just for safety while slowly losing my patience*
Michael, if we ever meet each other, watch out, because I might do some kicking. Not playing, dude, watch out.
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Guys,
As much as it would be an absolute dream come true for us to see Michael again, I am doubting that he will come back. And to be honest, I am also beginning to lose faith in this hoax.
I know we have found a lot of coincidences and other things that cannot be explained to the fullest, but you know what I also found out throughout this adventure? Love. Even if Michael is up in heaven and this whole hoax is untrue, we have still gone almost a year with our love for Michael. Just because he is gone doesn't mean we can't stop loving him and appreciating him for all he has done. I mean, seriously, we should be proud of ourselves. In 1991, Michael asked us if we will be there. And to be honest, I really believe that we kept our promise and we were there. And we are still here. Just because Michael is gone it doesn't mean that we aren't there for him anymore. We were there, we are still here, and we will ALWAYS be here.
I am beginning to accept the fact that Michael might be gone. I have a huge believer in God and I am very religious. Therefore, I just think God needed Michael far more than we did. Michael was here with us for 45 years. Do we honestly need him to do more for us? Michael went through a lot of good and horrible in his life. He put up with untrue, disgusting stories written about him, haters, his abusive father, but he also put up with our love and support and as true fans, we all know he loved and appreciated us for everything we did for him. But I really think that God needs Michael. Michael needs to rest now.
I can guarantee you that Michael will always be alive in our hearts. And I can also guarantee you that Michael and our other loved ones who have passed are looking down on us with a smile. Michael is up there smiling, laughing, singing, and definitely dancing. Just think, Michael is finally happy and care-free with absolutely nothing horrible to worry about. And isn't that what we really want for him?
I'm not saying that I have lost complete faith in this hoax, all I am saying that if this hoax turns out to be untrue, I am totally willing to accept it and know that Michael is happy and looking down on us all.
Always remember, we are still here whether Michael is or not. <3
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This is not about us and how we are coping or feeling. Why not use the time to educate yourself with all of the topics this hoax has touched upon. And yes, I believe there will be a BAM date. Don't know when even if it is close, but TS makes a very convincing argument to prove this point. I guess the question is do you believe TIAI?
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If Michael doesn't be back by July 23rd (the last BAM date I can think of), I will not be coming to these death hoax sites as much as I do now, and that's a lot, but still... :| *somehow gets straight-jacket back from cleaners and puts on just for safety while slowly losing my patience*
Michael, if we ever meet each other, watch out, because I might do some kicking. Not playing, dude, watch out.
YOU HAVE THE CIRQUE DU SOLEIL MJ TRIBUTE - 2011... ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPO9mX29XIM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPO9mX29XIM)
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Whether Mj has passed or not, if he comes back OR if he doesnt, IMO the most important thing right now is:
"JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL"
IMO thats what its all about...Justice Needs to be served, & its going to take allot of strong MJ supporters for the upcoming trial, whether the trial is real or not real, the message is still the same. So, lets not loose sight of what will be happening in the very near future.
L.O.V.E. to everyone & stay strong for Michael
Sorry if I'm off topic.
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Guys,
As much as it would be an absolute dream come true for us to see Michael again, I am doubting that he will come back. And to be honest, I am also beginning to lose faith in this hoax.
I know we have found a lot of coincidences and other things that cannot be explained to the fullest, but you know what I also found out throughout this adventure? Love. Even if Michael is up in heaven and this whole hoax is untrue, we have still gone almost a year with our love for Michael. Just because he is gone doesn't mean we can't stop loving him and appreciating him for all he has done. I mean, seriously, we should be proud of ourselves. In 1991, Michael asked us if we will be there. And to be honest, I really believe that we kept our promise and we were there. And we are still here. Just because Michael is gone it doesn't mean that we aren't there for him anymore. We were there, we are still here, and we will ALWAYS be here.
I am beginning to accept the fact that Michael might be gone. I have a huge believer in God and I am very religious. Therefore, I just think God needed Michael far more than we did. Michael was here with us for 45 years. Do we honestly need him to do more for us? Michael went through a lot of good and horrible in his life. He put up with untrue, disgusting stories written about him, haters, his abusive father, but he also put up with our love and support and as true fans, we all know he loved and appreciated us for everything we did for him. But I really think that God needs Michael. Michael needs to rest now.
I can guarantee you that Michael will always be alive in our hearts. And I can also guarantee you that Michael and our other loved ones who have passed are looking down on us with a smile. Michael is up there smiling, laughing, singing, and definitely dancing. Just think, Michael is finally happy and care-free with absolutely nothing horrible to worry about. And isn't that what we really want for him?
I'm not saying that I have lost complete faith in this hoax, all I am saying that if this hoax turns out to be untrue, I am totally willing to accept it and know that Michael is happy and looking down on us all.
Always remember, we are still here whether Michael is or not. <3
I'm really confuse
The half of me hope wherever michael is , in heaver or earth , I just hope he will be happy ..
but the other of me still can't accept if michael is really dead ..
although I really want to be happy for michael as you said above
I really want to blame myself , why can't I be sincere happy for michael if he is finally happy in heaven now .. I really hate myself for this
I'm going nut , really
I don't know what my heart really say now ..
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If Michael doesn't be back by July 23rd (the last BAM date I can think of), I will not be coming to these death hoax sites as much as I do now, and that's a lot, but still... :| *somehow gets straight-jacket back from cleaners and puts on just for safety while slowly losing my patience*
Michael, if we ever meet each other, watch out, because I might do some kicking. Not playing, dude, watch out.
YOU HAVE THE CIRQUE DU SOLEIL MJ TRIBUTE - 2011... ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPO9mX29XIM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPO9mX29XIM)
By that time, I'm going to be ording a padded cell that can fit in my closet! I'll problaby forget about that, anyways, but then again... :|
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If he doesn't come back on June 25th it's going to be real hard for me he will always be alive in my heart but we have been waiting for so long and i know he doesn't owe us anything but we need something, real concrete evidence that says he is alive MISS YOU MIKE :cry:
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This is not about us and how we are coping or feeling. Why not use the time to educate yourself with all of the topics this hoax has touched upon.
Amen!
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People plz!never exclude the possibility that he MAY NOT come back, i'm almost sure that he IS alive but who has told u that he is coming back?noone!he deserves to live a peaceful life
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For me its not about a date.. its how i feel in my heart and my soul. I am beginning to think that maybe i was in total denial and i couldnt concieve the thought.
Ive been a lot calmer these past couple of months and think i have done my crying and am beginning to accept. I think he may have died... i know that is so sad. I wont leave this forum as i still want answers and i will investigate until i get the truth. But it seems so real in my heart now, and nearly a year later my mind is finally beginning to allow acceptance.
He will always be alive in my heart. Always. Maybe, in a very sad way, death was kind for him.. a way out.. now (if he has died) he can sleep and rest for ever. No more work, no more torture, no more pain, no more harassment.
Im finding it harder now to believe that MJ would do this to his fans, that he would allow so much sadness and pain to continue. I am also finding it harder to accept he would allow so many people to lie and cover for him.
Maybe the inconsistencies and the coincidences have come about because this is a murder conspiracy.. and Sony want the hoax to stay valid to hike up sales and interests and take the heat of them and all the others that may have been involved in his death.
Im just being honest, so dont hate on me. I dont want it to be true, but my heart is beginning to turn this way now. :cry:
My heart and mind have been full of sadness and confusion for so long now. Ive begun to let the sadness go and take the joy from his music and videos and also to take the lesson of inspiration from hi
No one will hate you for saying what you have in your heart. Believe me at times I feel just what you are feeling. We are all humans and we do have mixed emotions. Love
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There is now ample evidence that he is alive, and this is the most important thing of his return "physical" at the time, or 25 June.
We must never forget THE WHY of 'this hoax and how much we have learned and understood from MJ's messages on how really work the system that governs us.
If MJ didn't want to return,he would not littered with the path of crumbs for us and for those who want to commit to change things of this world.
I don't want stop the hope of his return, because I would like very much to see him and listen to all of him but not forget The essence of his great message and I like to think all of us and gradually others with us in the time we can reverse the situation and put corral the evil powers. All with MJ, with or without him "physically".
;)
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*FACEPALM* ;) ;)
Why stop believing after June 25 ? :lol:
Think about all the stuff MJ most do before the can comeback ? , if he ever will.
So i wont loose hope after June 25. Michael is the man !
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I will never give up on michael im here till the very end. I dont get my hopes up for bam dates and i havent got my hopes up for june 25th, because like it was said this isnt about us this is about Michael and his message ;)
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I refuse to give up. I believe in Michael and i dont FEEL he is gone. It's a feeling i wont let go until he comes back. I know in my heart he will
Iam not going to EVER give up. No way. I will wait a lifetime if i have too!!!
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I had no idea where to post this so I though this may be a good place.
I need a bit of help. I’m working on something but I’m not good at researching things.
If anyone can PLEASE help me with some information it would be great.
1. When and where is the article that the tabloid news paper state that MJ only had six
Months to live?
2. What was the date that MJ came out letting everyone know that the 10 Concerts were going to happen?
3. When was it known that there would be 50 Concerts instead of 10?
I have a few more questions but want to start with this first.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP.
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Hi Everyone!
I need to share this with all of you. Let's face it we have become a family, a family because of Michael. With the help of Souza and Mo, he has brought us together. Now, we all have good days & bad days concerning Michael, is he, will he, where is he, I am here, I am leaving. OK, we all feel and hear ourselves asking or saying these things sometimes.
I practice martial arts, Tai Chi and Bagua. I believe in the Masters, their teachings, their journey. One of my journeys in life is to study, practice and carry on their message. Some of these great Masters have been gone hundreds of years. Now I am sure you know where I am going with this.....Michael's message. OK what if and I say IF he is truely gone? You are giving up and leaving because he is not coming back? Are you going to close the door on his journey? No, all the more reason to continue his message. Be kind to each other, love each other, help each other, pay attention to the world around you, your government, your enviroment, do you recycle, compost, plant a garden, be organic, speak, listen, discuss, learn, help others in need. If Michael is gone, his message doesn't end, it lives on forever. With the help of us!
NOW!!!!! We know there is so much evidence pointing to Michael being alive. We know this, we just get a bit anxious, depressed and excited all at once. OK, Michael comes back to us, do you think this hoax site will end? We, as the army of love, have a lot work to do. He will need us more than ever. You know the media will have a field day with him, that's where the army of love comes in. We need to be here for him to protect him and to help him continue his journey by spreading his message. Whether he comes back or not, true believers in Michael Jackson will always be here for him. I am here because I have become devoted to him, devoted to him 40 years ago and counting. I believe in his strengths, his weakness and his true meaning. So lets stop all of this I am leaving business and what if's and believe in him and his cause. I know he is a life time journey for me because I believe. So let's make his message our own, hope for the best and lets go where ever the wind takes us. I love you guys! Think positive!!!!
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In Our Darkest Hour
In My Deepest Despair
Will You Still Care?
Will You Be There?
In My Trials
And My Tripulations
Through Our Doubts
And Frustrations
In My Violence
In My Turbulence
Through My Fear
And My Confessions
In My Anguish And My Pain
Through My Joy And My Sorrow
In The Promise Of Another Tomorrow
I'll Never Let You Part
For You're Always In My Heart.
don't forget PAINS sung at the memorial :lol:
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I had a dream last night - the first time i have had a vivid dream about Michael (which is strange as i think about this all the time but never dream of it) - and i dreamt i was trying to go to his grave to say goodbye. I had a rosemary bead that i wanted to lay at his crypt.
When i got there, i was told they were moving the crypt so i couldnt go inside, but they were moving it to the outside and there was an empty space ready. I felt relief as this meant that i could get up close to lay my Rosemary beads.. but then they didnt move it and it was just an empty space so i laid my beads in the empty space.
It was a wierd dream - wierd i should dream that he had died and i was trying to go to his grave - but wierd i couldnt and had to say goodbye at an empty place. Not sure what that means.
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"it's not faith if you use your eyes."
if you're tired of it, then take a break. giving michael a deadline when it's convenient for us for him to come back is a little ridiculous, don't you think? i mean, after ALL we've learned and have seen and have opened our eyes to, you can't go blind again because some mythical date of a bam passes. i want him to come back as much as everyone else on here. i miss him terribly and i've never even met the guy.
the best things come to those who wait. michael said so himself repeatedly for years, "the best is yet to come."
we're all in this together. hang in there.
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This is all about Michael ! , not us ! :evil:
I dont care about a comeback ! , just that he is safe and alive and having a happy life with hes family and children.
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This is all about Michael ! , not us ! :evil:
I dont care about a comeback ! , just that he is safe and alive and having a happy life with hes family and children.
I disagree somewhat. This isn't all about Michael. It's about all of us, it's about TRUTH.
Mike even said, "Give me your patience and endurance..."
We have to be patient. Why give up if it doesn't happen this year? That would make all of our hard work over the past year completely pointless. It would have all been a waste of time.
First of all - I'm almost positive that "See you in July" has significance. Also, we can't forget his signatures that said "July 2011". And also the Cirque thing in 2011 as well.
This could very well go on for another year. Do I like that notion? Not particularly. But do I understand why it might be necessary? Absolutely.
The truth will prevail, but along the way we have the opportunity to spread the word and help others understand not only the hoax but what is going on in the world. Even if there is no hoax and Michael really is dead, his MESSAGE has always been the same - and his message is VERY MUCH needed in the world right now. Whether you believe in the 2012 theory or not, there is no denying that humanity and our planet itself are in big trouble.
If these are the reasons WHY he hoaxed his death, then there would be absolutely no point for him to return UNTIL it's the right time. We CAN influence the hoax and CREATE the "right time" by working on our own character and by educating others.
Do NOT give up. I'm begging you! The best is yet to come and YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET!
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:cry: :cry: :cry: I know what you all mean... I found this site in the midst of terrible sadness and the thought of him being alive feels good, but after a while, reality points to him being gone, makes me wonder maybe I am in denial, wishful thinking in some sorts...
6/25 would be like an emotional checkpoint for me, and afterward maybe my heart will be ready to stop mourning and find relief :? :|
(i think I would still come here every now and then, but sometimes I feel bound by my feelings about this hoax...)
LOL feeling bound about MJ :lol: :lol: LOL okay I'll stop
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This is all about Michael ! , not us ! :evil:
I dont care about a comeback ! , just that he is safe and alive and having a happy life with hes family and children.
I disagree somewhat. This isn't all about Michael. It's about all of us, it's about TRUTH.
Mike even said, "Give me your patience and endurance..."
We have to be patient. Why give up if it doesn't happen this year? That would make all of our hard work over the past year completely pointless. It would have all been a waste of time.
First of all - I'm almost positive that "See you in July" has significance. Also, we can't forget his signatures that said "July 2011". And also the Cirque thing in 2011 as well.
This could very well go on for another year. Do I like that notion? Not particularly. But do I understand why it might be necessary? Absolutely.
The truth will prevail, but along the way we have the opportunity to spread the word and help others understand not only the hoax but what is going on in the world. Even if there is no hoax and Michael really is dead, his MESSAGE has always been the same - and his message is VERY MUCH needed in the world right now. Whether you believe in the 2012 theory or not, there is no denying that humanity and our planet itself are in big trouble.
If these are the reasons WHY he hoaxed his death, then there would be absolutely no point for him to return UNTIL it's the right time. We CAN influence the hoax and CREATE the "right time" by working on our own character and by educating others.
Do NOT give up. I'm begging you! The best is yet to come and YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET!
Amen to all the above sistah!
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But........How long ago was this written ?????
It's from the Dangerous album, that was released in 1991.
When the song was written and released is not important. What is important to me is the fact that it was sung at the memorial. If I remember correctly it was sung at the beginning (right after "Soon, but very soon we are going to see the King") by Jennifer Hudson dressed in white. To me it was a sign that Michael was asking us to be there for him, no matter what.
Keep the Faith!
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This is all about Michael ! , not us ! :evil:
I dont care about a comeback ! , just that he is safe and alive and having a happy life with hes family and children.
You got it wrong Vic, it's not just about Mike. It's his personal revenge to those who did him harm, but it's ALSO about us, about the world, about truth.
"You can change the world, I can't do it by myself" Michael Jackson ~ Cry
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agree with all above, it's not a game , it's not about when or if he will come back,it's about finding out the truth piece by piece and spreading his invaluable message
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Man you guys are talking SOON! :shock: I was thinking in terms of 5 to 10 years. I would think it would need time to dissipate and fade out and happen when even the hoax believers aren't expecting it, and almost forgetting about it.
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Man you guys are talking SOON! :shock: I was thinking in terms of 5 to 10 years. I would think it would need time to dissipate and fade out and happen when even the hoax believers aren't expecting it, and almost forgetting about it.
I see your point of view. However, I don't think it will be THAT long as Michael has given many clues that he believes in the 2012 disaster/world ending theories. 5 or 10 years would be far past that year, too late to warn people.
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Man you guys are talking SOON! :shock: I was thinking in terms of 5 to 10 years. I would think it would need time to dissipate and fade out and happen when even the hoax believers aren't expecting it, and almost forgetting about it.
I see your point of view. However, I don't think it will be THAT long as Michael has given many clues that he believes in the 2012 disaster/world ending theories. 5 or 10 years would be far past that year, too late to warn people.
Thats true, and I hadn't heard about the July 2011 signatures either until now..
So did he think the world would deff end in 2012? How is the world supposed to "get it right" and fix everything in just 4 years though? What made him think this is possible and especially if the world is going to "end" anyway, what is the point. Most people might as that, like why should we bother? the world will be no more anyway..
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I had a dream last night - the first time i have had a vivid dream about Michael (which is strange as i think about this all the time but never dream of it) - and i dreamt i was trying to go to his grave to say goodbye. I had a rosemary bead that i wanted to lay at his crypt.
When i got there, i was told they were moving the crypt so i couldnt go inside, but they were moving it to the outside and there was an empty space ready. I felt relief as this meant that i could get up close to lay my Rosemary beads.. but then they didnt move it and it was just an empty space so i laid my beads in the empty space.
It was a wierd dream - wierd i should dream that he had died and i was trying to go to his grave - but wierd i couldnt and had to say goodbye at an empty place. Not sure what that means.
MICHAEL on the brain will do that to you. Did you listen to any of his music, watch a video etc before you went to bed. I have a ritual of always listening to an MJ song right before bed. Makes me dream good dreams :)
Sometimes wierd but usually good ones. Dreams are funny things. I try not to analize them too much
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Man you guys are talking SOON! :shock: I was thinking in terms of 5 to 10 years. I would think it would need time to dissipate and fade out and happen when even the hoax believers aren't expecting it, and almost forgetting about it.
I see your point of view. However, I don't think it will be THAT long as Michael has given many clues that he believes in the 2012 disaster/world ending theories. 5 or 10 years would be far past that year, too late to warn people.
I think 2011 is a bit late as well. It's not over with the BAM... We are trying to awaken people, but we can't reach the whole world like he can. After he returns there is still a job to be done, people need to accept his reasons and stand up. That is not something that will be done in just a few months IMO.
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Man you guys are talking SOON! :shock: I was thinking in terms of 5 to 10 years. I would think it would need time to dissipate and fade out and happen when even the hoax believers aren't expecting it, and almost forgetting about it.
I see your point of view. However, I don't think it will be THAT long as Michael has given many clues that he believes in the 2012 disaster/world ending theories. 5 or 10 years would be far past that year, too late to warn people.
I think 2011 is a bit late as well. It's not over with the BAM... We are trying to awaken people, but we can't reach the whole world like he can. After he returns there is still a job to be done, people need to accept his reasons and stand up. That is not something that will be done in just a few months IMO.
Yeah that's been my general feeling over the last year as well. If he came back in, let's say, July of 2011.. that would be like saying "oh hey..the world is going to end in just a few months, just warnin' ya".. lol. So you're right about the BAM. I think a lot of people think that "BAM" = "the end", but it is really just the beginning.
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Man you guys are talking SOON! :shock: I was thinking in terms of 5 to 10 years. I would think it would need time to dissipate and fade out and happen when even the hoax believers aren't expecting it, and almost forgetting about it.
I see your point of view. However, I don't think it will be THAT long as Michael has given many clues that he believes in the 2012 disaster/world ending theories. 5 or 10 years would be far past that year, too late to warn people.
I think 2011 is a bit late as well. It's not over with the BAM... We are trying to awaken people, but we can't reach the whole world like he can. After he returns there is still a job to be done, people need to accept his reasons and stand up. That is not something that will be done in just a few months IMO.
Yeah that's been my general feeling over the last year as well. If he came back in, let's say, July of 2011.. that would be like saying "oh hey..the world is going to end in just a few months, just warnin' ya".. lol. So you're right about the BAM. I think a lot of people think that "BAM" = "the end", but it is really just the beginning.
"What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning..."
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This is all about Michael ! , not us ! :evil:
I dont care about a comeback ! , just that he is safe and alive and having a happy life with hes family and children.
I disagree somewhat. This isn't all about Michael. It's about all of us, it's about TRUTH.
Mike even said, "Give me your patience and endurance..."
We have to be patient. Why give up if it doesn't happen this year? That would make all of our hard work over the past year completely pointless. It would have all been a waste of time.
First of all - I'm almost positive that "See you in July" has significance. Also, we can't forget his signatures that said "July 2011". And also the Cirque thing in 2011 as well.
This could very well go on for another year. Do I like that notion? Not particularly. But do I understand why it might be necessary? Absolutely.
The truth will prevail, but along the way we have the opportunity to spread the word and help others understand not only the hoax but what is going on in the world. Even if there is no hoax and Michael really is dead, his MESSAGE has always been the same - and his message is VERY MUCH needed in the world right now. Whether you believe in the 2012 theory or not, there is no denying that humanity and our planet itself are in big trouble.
If these are the reasons WHY he hoaxed his death, then there would be absolutely no point for him to return UNTIL it's the right time. We CAN influence the hoax and CREATE the "right time" by working on our own character and by educating others.
Do NOT give up. I'm begging you! The best is yet to come and YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET!
I also think so, maybe Michael back in July, something tells me he is not returned on June 25, as most think. I think it might come back after World Cup (one is my hypothesis)
coming back or not, we will continue to love him and remember the legacy he left us.
Michael Jackson wants us to stay together, if this forum will end or not I do not know at least the world's largest humanitarian knew that already exists rather than just a singer and dancer, and I learned so many beautiful things with it. :P
I'm wondering if Michael is reading this forum :?
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This is all about Michael ! , not us ! :evil:
I dont care about a comeback ! , just that he is safe and alive and having a happy life with hes family and children.
I disagree somewhat. This isn't all about Michael. It's about all of us, it's about TRUTH.
Mike even said, "Give me your patience and endurance..."
We have to be patient. Why give up if it doesn't happen this year? That would make all of our hard work over the past year completely pointless. It would have all been a waste of time.
First of all - I'm almost positive that "See you in July" has significance. Also, we can't forget his signatures that said "July 2011". And also the Cirque thing in 2011 as well.
This could very well go on for another year. Do I like that notion? Not particularly. But do I understand why it might be necessary? Absolutely.
The truth will prevail, but along the way we have the opportunity to spread the word and help others understand not only the hoax but what is going on in the world. Even if there is no hoax and Michael really is dead, his MESSAGE has always been the same - and his message is VERY MUCH needed in the world right now. Whether you believe in the 2012 theory or not, there is no denying that humanity and our planet itself are in big trouble.
If these are the reasons WHY he hoaxed his death, then there would be absolutely no point for him to return UNTIL it's the right time. We CAN influence the hoax and CREATE the "right time" by working on our own character and by educating others.
Do NOT give up. I'm begging you! The best is yet to come and YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET!
I also think so, maybe Michael back in July, something tells me he is not returned on June 25, as most think. I think it might come back after World Cup (one is my hypothesis)
coming back or not, we will continue to love him and remember the legacy he left us.
Michael Jackson wants us to stay together, if this forum will end or not I do not know at least the world's largest humanitarian knew that already exists rather than just a singer and dancer, and I learned so many beautiful things with it. :P
I'm wondering if Michael is reading this forum :?
What a coincidence..World Cup ends on Sunday July 11, 2010
:lol:
PD: I doubt he will show up (not expecting a comeback day)
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Man you guys are talking SOON! :shock: I was thinking in terms of 5 to 10 years. I would think it would need time to dissipate and fade out and happen when even the hoax believers aren't expecting it, and almost forgetting about it.
I see your point of view. However, I don't think it will be THAT long as Michael has given many clues that he believes in the 2012 disaster/world ending theories. 5 or 10 years would be far past that year, too late to warn people.
I think 2011 is a bit late as well. It's not over with the BAM... We are trying to awaken people, but we can't reach the whole world like he can. After he returns there is still a job to be done, people need to accept his reasons and stand up. That is not something that will be done in just a few months IMO.
Yeah that's been my general feeling over the last year as well. If he came back in, let's say, July of 2011.. that would be like saying "oh hey..the world is going to end in just a few months, just warnin' ya".. lol. So you're right about the BAM. I think a lot of people think that "BAM" = "the end", but it is really just the beginning.
"What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning..."
I really agree with you two- and it's weird because about 2 or 3 days ago I was thinking about how the BAM IS NOT THE END and how all the non-believers are gonna be shocked and it's gonna feel like an end of sorts to us, but it will be just starting for everyone else.. That is just so odd how the peeps here often manage to say just what I'd been thinking at home to myself!!
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This is not about us and how we are coping or feeling. Why not use the time to educate yourself with all of the topics this hoax has touched upon.
Amen!
For me, I am educating myself as much as possible. I am always turning over the different sides of the coin with new information that I find on a daily basis. I am here for MJ and for the truth. I do cope that best that I can. God bless you both for your love and your support of MJ!
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Like most of you said, we can't set a date for Michael to come back. Maybe he can't come back.
I know you people need to take a break from all this, but don't give up hope.
He will come back in his own time. I don't expect anything to happen this month I don't wanna get dissapointed over this hoax. Elvis never came back......but is there somewhere alive and kicking, enjoying normal life. Do we blame him?
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Like most of you said, we can't set a date for Michael to come back. Maybe he can't come back.
I know you people need to take a break from all this, but don't give up hope.
He will come back in his own time. I don't expect anything to happen this month I don't wanna get dissapointed over this hoax. Elvis never came back......but is there somewhere alive and kicking, enjoying normal life. Do we blame him?
don 't anybody take this wrong because i don't mean anything negative toward elvis or micheal. elvis might have a chance at some kind of normal life i do not think that is possible for micheal. and in either case they would always have to be in a sense looking over their shoulders. the idea of taking on a new life is like saying when you lose someone from your life through death that they are going to just disappear from your memory and you will go on about your jolly ole' self. again just opinion.
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Elvis never came back......but is there somewhere alive and kicking, enjoying normal life. Do we blame him?
are you saying Elvis is alive? oh my God, this cant be serious...Is it so difficult to admit everybody has to die? I dont know if Michael died or not, but just in case he did I must respect him and his family and spending my time with ridiculous theories is not intelligent, instead we could pay tribute to him and mourn, yes mourn his posible death. Some people at hoax forums will never admit he one day has to die, and this is really very sad. We all want him to be alive, but lets be a little serious please.
Sorry Michaelangela, it is not with you, ok? I just caught your quote about Elvis but I refer to people in general.
Open your eyes ! You all know he will not come back this month...spending your time thinking all time about the same is wasting time.
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Guys why lose hope when you're here? Keep up the faith, don't stop believing! :mrgreen:
But The Power's In Believing
So Give Yourself A Chance
'Cause You Can
Climb The Highest Mountain
Swim The Deepest Sea, Hee
All You Need Is The Will To Want It
And Uhh, Little Self-Esteem
So Keep The Faith
Don't Let Nobody Turn You 'Round
You Gotta Know When It's Good To Go
To Get Your Dreams Up Off The Ground
Keep The Faith, Baby, Yea
Because It's Just
A Matter Of Time
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i have this kind of scary feeling that maybe we just need to quiet down and sit back and let this thing move at it's own pace for a little while. don't ask me why i say this. it is just a feeling that has been coming over me for a while now.
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Guys I think some of you jump too fast to precipitated conclusions..Seems like you forgot what we found out and all the proofs and all the updates from TS..Day by day it becomes more clear (to me) that this is the biggest hoax ever! I can feel it and I can SEE it! Is not only about belief, but also about evidences! You can't expect Michael to upload a video on youtube saying "hey this was a wrap, I hope you got my message and my clues"
Please don't lose your faith! Michael knows what to do, trust him, be aware of everything and try to control your feelings (I know this must sound crazy but if you opened you eyes to the hoax and evidences then you wouldn't have these problems)..
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The moment I forget all of the incredible things we have all found, all of the things that point so soundly to him being alive, is the moment I die inside myself and go back to that person curled up in a little ball on my bed for days begging to be taken myself, begging for some horrible illness or accident to claim me. Through this hope and if not hope TRUTH along side people who do not scream at me for every tiny thing I say or do, do not ridicule me for having hope, I have found life again and people who understand instead of put me down. Michael is alive until my dying day I believe that.
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The journey itself is the reward and also a large part of the goal in my understanding.
You see plenty of extremely interesting things on this cab tour if you´re an attentive observer -
and in case you get bored you can draw your own pictures on the window pane... ;)
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mot sure about you but this hoax has forever changed my life- my views, my attitude towards different thing s, my approaches, it has opened my eyes widely
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Im stating to think the same that he really is gone. I've been keeping hope in my heart that he is alive but with so much after happening over the past 2/3 weeks with the family im really really wondering if he is really gone..
1) Fans being allowed at forest lawn
2) Joe suing AEG & Dr. Murray
3) Joe & Katherine at war now over News Of World report
4) Randy on CNN
If he was truly alive would this be all happenin.. I await 2 c what happens with Murray later today in court.. Please someone advice cause i dont wanna give up hope and have 2 start grievin all over again... xxxx
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Im done believeing if he doesnt come back in June, at the moment Im getting tired of this so called death hoax...All these things right now thats coming out about randy on CNN, Joe suing somebody, comic book, the Gary project, the new music that is coming out, the tribute, everthing that is mj related. It feels like he is dead. :|
Well okay then, wish you the best! This isn't about when Michael is coming back or if he is even coming back, although I firmly beLIEve he will! I'm certain he is alive! :mrgreen:
We love you, Michael! And YES, we will be there! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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I will never lose hope! I'll keep my faith!
If he really is in a WPP, then he can't set a fix date to say" I'm back".....what makes you start thinkin' he's gone? Just curious...
For me, there are more and more proofs and things that make me go " what a genius".....If he doesn't come back in june then I'm NOT done...I'll stay here until the bitter end- whenever it may be
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I will never lose hope! I'll keep my faith!
If he really is in a WPP, then he can't set a fix date to say" I'm back".....what makes you start thinkin' he's gone? Just curious...
For me, there are more and more proofs and things that make me go " what a genius".....If he doesn't come back in june then I'm NOT done...I'll stay here until the bitter end- whenever it may be
I´M WITH YOU... I WILL NEVER LOOSE HOPE! MAYBE HE WILL BE HERE FOR EVER, WHY WE NEED A BAM!? I NOW THAT HE IS ALIVE, I HAVE MORE THINGS THAT MAKE ME THINK THAT HE IS ALIVE THAT FACTS THAT HE IS GONE, SO... HE IS ALIVE FOR ME! :mrgreen:
I HAVE THOSE DAYS... BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I REMEMBER THE CIRCUS, THE NIGHT AT UNIVERSAL, GREEN MAN... WHAT A GENIUS!!! I LOVE HIM MORE EVERY DAY, AND I MISS HIM... BUT IS OK IF HE IS NOT COMING BACK... :mrgreen: I´M NOT EXPECTING A DATE, HE WILL BE BACK IN HIS OWN TIME!!! :mrgreen:
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mot sure about you but this hoax has forever changed my life- my views, my attitude towards different thing s, my approaches, it has opened my eyes widely
I could have written this!!! This is my exact opinion and i'm grateful for it :)
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MashMike wrote:mot sure about you but this hoax has forever changed my life- my views, my attitude towards different thing s, my approaches, it has opened my eyes widely
I could have written this!!! This is my exact opinion and i'm grateful for it :)
I'm very happy that we have the same attitude toward the hoax ;)
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I can't give up if the 25th of June goes by without Michael because This Is NOT It!!!! I believe he is alive and I will until I get the proof that is needed. A body no I don't need that it would be a big part in believeing he was gone but no. A real display of emotion from jump would have been great but no it surely wasn't and its to late NOW. I would love nuthin more than 2 have him back on June 25th and I really hope does come back because I believe in the BAM. Michael wouldn't want us to get discourgaed just yet because he knows every single last one of us here has full faith in him that's why he is gonna have a BAM. Lets say I think of the BAM like this "Thank you all my wonderful fans for your support. I did this BAM for you because if I didn't have such loving fans I probably wouldn't have came back."
I know laugh if u must :D but that's how I feel. I think all next week will be significant and we will be receiveing clues up until the 25th and that's the BIG 1 either clue or BAM. I keep the faith for as long as it takes :D
Ups and downs everyday but we can get through this TOGETHER :D :D :D !!!!
About those "Will You Be There" lyrics I will most def be there Michael through it all ;) :D :P !!!!
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I was watching a documentary on my native channel about MJ and they said that Michael once announced that he would die at the age of 50, i think it's a huge clue but not sure if i can trust that documentary, have u ever heard about it?
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I was watching a documentary on my native channel about MJ and they said that Michael once announced that he would die at the age of 50, i think it's a huge clue but not sure if i can trust that documentary, have u ever heard about it?
i did, but that's Ian Halperin's ..
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So can we trust him?i haven't heard about it,ain't it a big clue?or a tabloid trash?
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So can we trust him?i haven't heard about it,ain't it a big clue?or a tabloid trash?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Halperin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Halperin)
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10749&p=181839&hilit=revealing+new#p181839 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10749&p=181839&hilit=revealing+new#p181839)
Don't really trust him.. those stories he made up are garbage
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viewtopic.php?f=48&t=10749&p=181839&hilit=revealing+new#p181839
Don't really trust him.. those stories he made up are garbag
Thank u very much, i hoped that it was be true,anyway :(
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Im stating to think the same that he really is gone. I've been keeping hope in my heart that he is alive but with so much after happening over the past 2/3 weeks with the family im really really wondering if he is really gone..
1) Fans being allowed at forest lawn
2) Joe suing AEG & Dr. Murray
3) Joe & Katherine at war now over News Of World report
4) Randy on CNN
If he was truly alive would this be all happenin.. I await 2 c what happens with Murray later today in court.. Please someone advice cause i dont wanna give up hope and have 2 start grievin all over again... xxxx
Think about what we have learned over the past almost 12 months!
1 ) Fans have always been allowed at forest lawn - just media hype
2 ) Nothing has changed!
3) News of the World report ! media garbage!
4) Randy on CNN ... how many interviews, memorial/funeral .... so much and now you ?
Keep the faith!
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I can't give up if the 25th of June goes by without Michael because This Is NOT It!!!! I believe he is alive and I will until I get the proof that is needed. A body no I don't need that it would be a big part in believeing he was gone but no. A real display of emotion from jump would have been great but no it surely wasn't and its to late NOW. I would love nuthin more than 2 have him back on June 25th and I really hope does come back because I believe in the BAM. Michael wouldn't want us to get discourgaed just yet because he knows every single last one of us here has full faith in him that's why he is gonna have a BAM. Lets say I think of the BAM like this "Thank you all my wonderful fans for your support. I did this BAM for you because if I didn't have such loving fans I probably wouldn't have came back."
I know laugh if u must :D but that's how I feel. I think all next week will be significant and we will be receiveing clues up until the 25th and that's the BIG 1 either clue or BAM. I keep the faith for as long as it takes :D
Ups and downs everyday but we can get through this TOGETHER :D :D :D !!!!
About those "Will You Be There" lyrics I will most def be there Michael through it all ;) :D :P !!!!
Absolutely!! :D :D "I'll be there" just call my name la la la :D
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Im done believeing if he doesnt come back in June, at the moment Im getting tired of this so called death hoax...All these things right now thats coming out about randy on CNN, Joe suing somebody, comic book, the Gary project, the new music that is coming out, the tribute, everthing that is mj related. It feels like he is dead. :|
Yeah I kow the feeling, this is the same thing I said in the chatroom some months ago, I give up, can not take it anymore, if he doesnt come back on the 25th I swear to God Im going to give up. Ill grieve for a second time I dont care Ill cry again I dont care.
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Dont take this the wrong way cause I really don't want to offend anyone.
Isn't believing michael is alive enough? What if he really IS in some sort of witness protection programm? He can't just set a date to say "ok that date i want you guys to arrest this and that person because i need to come back for my fans " now does he? Those kind of things take time, for now I will believe he is alive even if he doesn't comes back on 25th of June, just knowing he is alive is enough for me :D and will get me through those days. Remember he doesn't OWE us anything.
For me just believing he is alive is definitely enough for me. As we have all learned in this past year all IS NOT what it appears. The only time I truly had doubts were after the funeral but my mom reminded me of all the info that I gave her about the hoax and I was okay when the next morning's light hit. Nothing fits and not just with the people around MJ but his family has been so weird from jump. I would be okay with believing he was dead if the family acted like a regular mourning family but alas they did not and still are not acting as such. The family is obviously the main factor along with the million other clues as to something being off. I, in my wildest dreams wouldn't dare pray for MJ to come back and pick up were he left off. What kind of danger would that bring him? I am not a selfish person but a selfless one and I only want what's best for him. As long as I know in my heart he is walking around enjoying his life then I am great. He can now stop and smell the roses, he can listen to people's conversations about what goes on in their daily lives because like he said "when people know it's Michael Jackson they change and can't be themselves" and above all he can truly enjoy his life from here on out. He doesn't owe us anything really. He's given us decades of fantastic music and I am ok with that. His music lives now and forever more. So having him come back physically to the stage is not a need or want for me. I'm just happy he's free and I pray he's happy somewhere inside. I know he may be sad that it all had to come to this and to sadden the fans but for his own well being I pray he's truly happy and safe. That's all I ask for.
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I can't give up if the 25th of June goes by without Michael because This Is NOT It!!!! I believe he is alive and I will until I get the proof that is needed. A body no I don't need that it would be a big part in believing he was gone but no. A real display of emotion from jump would have been great but no it surely wasn't and its to late NOW. I would love nuthin more than 2 have him back on June 25th and I really hope does come back because I believe in the BAM. Michael wouldn't want us to get discouraged just yet because he knows every single last one of us here has full faith in him that's why he is gonna have a BAM. Lets say I think of the BAM like this "Thank you all my wonderful fans for your support. I did this BAM for you because if I didn't have such loving fans I probably wouldn't have came back."
I know laugh if u must :D but that's how I feel. I think all next week will be significant and we will be receiving clues up until the 25th and that's the BIG 1 either clue or BAM. I keep the faith for as long as it takes :D
Ups and downs everyday but we can get through this TOGETHER :D :D :D !!!!
About those "Will You Be There" lyrics I will most def be there Michael through it all ;) :D :P !!!!
Absolutely!! :D :D "I'll be there" just call my name la la la :D
Lools :D Exactly I'll Be There to comfort you :D :P Build my world of dreams around you I'm soo glad i found you :D ;)
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Ppl what r u talking about?!What u really want?? Michael's come back for ur better feeling or His happiness?You want to leave it, because u r tired and the investigation did not yield the expected,clear results ..Its just my opinion on that...
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Ppl what r u talking about?!What u really want?? Michael's come back for ur better feeling or His happiness?You want to leave it, because u r tired and the investigation did not yield the expected,clear results ..Its just my opinion on that...
I think the whole comeback thing is completely bittersweet :/ We want him to but we don't because either him or us will be tormented one way or the other..
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I believe in u Mike,because u r ALIVE!
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I believe in u Mike,because u r ALIVE!
hm, I think that's what everyone else is doin' here, no?
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If michael is alive and if he does come back he better give us an explaination on why he hoax his death. If he doesnt then alot of peopl will be piss at him,
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i;m start to lose hope because i was having a big debate with someone people on other site he a site where you write stories an all of them thinks michael dead but i dont but now they making me lose all of my hope of his being alive. :evil: :twisted: :cry:
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i;m start to lose hope because i was having a big debate with someone people on other site he a site where you write stories an all of them thinks michael dead but i dont but now they making me lose all of my hope of his being alive. :evil: :twisted: :cry:
I agree, thats why i dont discuss with non-believers who doesnt believe in the hoax because i lose alot of faith. Im trying my best to be patience
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If Michael doesn't comeback how can we change the world? I mean we can tell everyone about the illuminati but they won't believe us and we all have gotten that we are crazy looks when we talk about it, if they hear it from Michael they will accept it why? I don't know but that's how it is and Michael can reach more people with his message, what I'm saying is we need Michael without him the world is just going to be the same with the elite running things and us suffering, MICHAEL IF YOU ARE READING THIS WE DON'T WANT YOU BACK JUST TO SING OR DANCE AGAIN WE NEED YOUR HELP TO CHANGE THE WORLD :cry:
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thanks samsuperb i think i;m going be patience as will my mom agree's with me
that his big beauitful eyes are alive
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don't cha think a return on the anniversary would sort of lack imagination? just my thoughts.
:lol: um...:razz: Ye-ah. :lol:
Shamone, you guys. Give the man his DUE credit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plus, he's NOT going to rain on all the parades of bunches of his fans getting together to pay tribute to his memory, now that all the shock and pain have gotten old enough to function up to speed (mostly) again. He's very mindful and considerate of his fans. the way everyone is taking the day off, it's almost like a holy day. Don't take it OFF unless 8-)you get paid for it. He wouldn't want you to come up short, now would he?
He said "see you in July"----but, WHICH July, Hmmmmm??????
I think he hoped that WAY more folks would have jumped on this investigative Hoax site by now, and ride the BeLIEvers' Adventure Train, grinning from ear to ear. I don't think he realized how BEAT-DOWN people would be, in these hard times, to hear SUCH sad news concerning our gloved one, AND I don't think he wants them to miss out, just because they're a few laps back, still mourning him, do you?
BTW, THANKS, all yous who say, "If he doesn't come back in June, I am done". It only means MORE (as in "I love you more!!") for ME :!: :razz:
Seriously, good things come to those who don't walk away in a huff...you'll be missed, but...hey---if is too hard on you to follow along, just hide and watch! Don't let go, yet!
Relax, put your feet up, BREATHE, sip some sweet tea. Chill. Buy a T-shirt, with his cute face on it. Listen to "Don't Stop, Till You Get Enough" or, IJCSLY (XXXXXXX) :wink:
I think MJ found a way to live for all time. You won't want to miss this. :D
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you can't give up. it's hard...believe me,i know it's hard to stay positive all the time,but you've got to. me,i personally think he'll be back in july of either this year or next year. it's hard going day by day and he's not here,but i always find a way to hold on and keep the faith. don't give up so easily.
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It's hard sometimes to keep faith in something when people around you are doubters. But don't give up now! I honestly believe we are getting closer by the day! :D ;)
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Im done believeing if he doesnt come back in June, at the moment Im getting tired of this so called death hoax...All these things right now thats coming out about randy on CNN, Joe suing somebody, comic book, the Gary project, the new music that is coming out, the tribute, everthing that is mj related. It feels like he is dead. :|
I am with you. When June 25th goes by, I will move on. When he "returns" or something like that I will see it on the news or somewhere else. There is no need to focus all my life on "hoax" when it goes like that the whole time, people comme up with clues which are just :roll: :lol: :x to me. I will go on after June 25th!!! I think that Michael is really dead and I cannot accept it and if not there will never be a come back so why listen to clues which are just :lol:
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Really, guys...
What if he's not gonna come back in June?
Who told you that the date of comeback is 25? Or 26? Or any other day? It's just a wish. We want him to do it.
If the BAM 's not gonna happen in this month, are u gonna forget everything what we've learned in the past one year, and stop believing just like that? Why?
We all agree that he did it for some reason, even if we are not really sure what it is, right?
For some really serious reason.
Probably some job has to be done before the comeback. And he's the only one who knows how long does it take. We don't know it. We're investigating, we're tryin' to understand, but we don't know it.
He's totally aware of what is he doin', that's for sure.
'Is he alive?' is not a question anymore. He is. We know it already.
'Why did he do it?'
'What can we do for him?'
Now these r the questions.
And i don't think that the answer is: 'Turn your back on him if he doesn't do what u expect.'
Don't be selfish. Just be there till the end. Or beginning. Or whatever it is. ;)
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Why are people so insistant on the 25th of June? Yes, that's the first anniversary, but we have not been told or found anything that suggests that is the date of the BAM. I personally feel it is close, and TS does, but to say that it's a case of 'if he doesn't come back on the 25th, I'll leave' is a bit baffling to me :?
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I have a question. What date were the This Is It concerts suppose to take place in July??? Was it like the 13th of July??? I was thinking maybe in July the date the first concerts were suppose to take place BAM ;) ???
Just a thought for the "See You In July" statement :P
I still have strong faith on Friday wishing for the best like everyone else :D
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I won't give up hope if he doesn't return this month. I still have faith that he'll return one day and whatever year ;)
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Im not sure anymore. I think i have not dealt with this the right way and i just cant let him go.
The LA PD and the justice system have let Michael and us down and that is why we still have no answers.
I just want to let him go and be happy when i remember him. Im not sure how much longer i can go on. Ive contemplated letting this go after June 25th. Im going to FL on that date and im hoping to get closure.
I cant let this go on for much longer.. we are now saying years? I cant believe that MJ would leave us with all this pain. How can he let people grieve and be unhappy? We really believe that is what he is doing?
Sorry.. but im not doing good with this at the moment. I just want the questions that go round and round my head to be silenced.
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I have a strong feeling it's all been leading up to this Friday.
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Im done believeing if he doesnt come back in June, at the moment Im getting tired of this so called death hoax...All these things right now thats coming out about randy on CNN, Joe suing somebody, comic book, the Gary project, the new music that is coming out, the tribute, everthing that is mj related. It feels like he is dead. :|
I am with you. When June 25th goes by, I will move on. When he "returns" or something like that I will see it on the news or somewhere else. There is no need to focus all my life on "hoax" when it goes like that the whole time, people comme up with clues which are just :roll: :lol: :x to me. I will go on after June 25th!!! I think that Michael is really dead and I cannot accept it and if not there will never be a come back so why listen to clues which are just :lol:
BECAUSE... Silly Goose :lol: :P ...these days ALL of us NEED a little good clean COMIC RELIEF (and escape from life's problems :cry: ) :!:
If that's all you can get out of this, ok---but good things come to those who are patient and WAIT for them. I, for one, have found SUCH great admiration for someone whom I already believed was a genius-doll, anyway, that I am grinning with pride ALL the time, just to be alive at this time---instead of simply READING about this adventure all misunderstood and twisted, in some future generation history book (if there even will be any future, once certain FOOLs get done running this lovely ship into the ground, unchecked!). I think I know why he did this, and it just makes me BEAM with joy.
:arrow: He truly IS the Greatest Entertainer who EVER LIVED
Don't be all impatient! :roll: :!:
Most of the (personal for YOU) point is the RIDE, honey. While us hoaxers are tickling your funny bone with (uh, YEAH! me too, I DO see) some seriously OFF the WALL theories, you MAY, just in spite of everything, AND your smirking, :!: discover something :o 8-) 8-) about your self or develop some CHARACTER. YAY!! ;)
Patience is one such virtue in stellar character ;) .
Not to be preachy, just saying...I feel myself growing and stretching in areas UNTAPPED by my professional or heretofore, personal life.
Plus, I've never met SO many different kinds of people--kind ones,sad ones, angry ones, silly ones, very very intelligent ones, mean ones(they need us most--- :? :( they got a thorn in the paw, somewhere), and just ALL kinds of people I NEVER would have met if MJ hadn't compelled us to "Come Together Over (HIM) Me", and join his DANCE. (The one prior to the Revolution, they have said...)
I feel like I've touched the wealth of God, Himself!!!
We ARE His favorite, you know ;) ;) ;) ....
He loves us best of everything He ever made. He SAID so, and He cannot LIE 8-) 8-) :!:
Please don't go away...hang on!!! :lol: :lol: :D :o
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I almost gave up myself but I'm waiting untill July of 2011 hits and if hes not back by then I'm really giving up.
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Im done believeing if he doesnt come back in June, at the moment Im getting tired of this so called death hoax...All these things right now thats coming out about randy on CNN, Joe suing somebody, comic book, the Gary project, the new music that is coming out, the tribute, everthing that is mj related. It feels like he is dead. :|
I am with you. When June 25th goes by, I will move on. When he "returns" or something like that I will see it on the news or somewhere else. There is no need to focus all my life on "hoax" when it goes like that the whole time, people comme up with clues which are just :roll: :lol: :x to me. I will go on after June 25th!!! I think that Michael is really dead and I cannot accept it and if not there will never be a come back so why listen to clues which are just :lol:
BECAUSE... Silly Goose :lol: :P ...these days ALL of us NEED a little good clean COMIC RELIEF (and escape from life's problems :cry: ) :!:
If that's all you can get out of this, ok---but good things come to those who are patient and WAIT for them. I, for one, have found SUCH great admiration for someone whom I already believed was a genius-doll, anyway, that I am grinning with pride ALL the time, just to be alive at this time---instead of simply READING about this adventure all misunderstood and twisted, in some future generation history book (if there even will be any future, once certain FOOLs get done running this lovely ship into the ground, unchecked!). I think I know why he did this, and it just makes me BEAM with joy.
:arrow: He truly IS the Greatest Entertainer who EVER LIVED
Don't be all impatient! :roll: :!:
Most of the (personal for YOU) point is the RIDE, honey. While us hoaxers are tickling your funny bone with (uh, YEAH! me too, I DO see) some seriously OFF the WALL theories, you MAY, just in spite of everything, AND your smirking, :!: discover something :o 8-) 8-) about your self or develop some CHARACTER. YAY!! ;)
Patience is one such virtue in stellar character ;) .
Not to be preachy, just saying...I feel myself growing and stretching in areas UNTAPPED by my professional or heretofore, personal life.
Plus, I've never met SO many different kinds of people--kind ones,sad ones, angry ones, silly ones, very very intelligent ones, mean ones(they need us most--- :? :( they got a thorn in the paw, somewhere), and just ALL kinds of people I NEVER would have met if MJ hadn't compelled us to "Come Together Over (HIM) Me", and join his DANCE. (The one prior to the Revolution, they have said...)
I feel like I've touched the wealth of God, Himself!!!
We ARE His favorite, you know ;) ;) ;) ....
He loves us best of everything He ever made. He SAID so, and He cannot LIE 8-) 8-) :!:
Please don't go away...hang on!!! :lol: :lol: :D :o
This is just sooo perfectly worded...I aagree 100% :D