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Title: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 09, 2010, 05:47:38 AM
[youtube:1nnuvrzr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqAI6rTDVJw&feature=related[/youtube:1nnuvrzr]

[youtube:1nnuvrzr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohZT-tdA_8&feature=related[/youtube:1nnuvrzr]
[youtube:1nnuvrzr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBTL-62W2NU&feature=related[/youtube:1nnuvrzr]
[youtube:1nnuvrzr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGiX-B4_dWY&feature=related[/youtube:1nnuvrzr]
[youtube:1nnuvrzr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr7Y2P-igZI&feature=related[/youtube:1nnuvrzr]
These are very interesting.......there are more but couldn't fit them all in....

All I can say is WOW...xoxo
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: mmz on June 09, 2010, 06:42:43 AM
Thanks for posting!!!
This is really interesting to hear!
This man has understood the true essence of Michael..
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: chappie on June 09, 2010, 07:51:43 AM
Speechless....................
Chappie
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Hazzely on June 09, 2010, 08:29:41 AM
ye saw this time ago. it's really cool  :)
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: clea on June 09, 2010, 08:51:04 AM
it still a man in whom I have no confidence, more than doubtful, racist ...
he uses Michael for its movement
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: AvaMarie on June 09, 2010, 09:30:18 AM
Great video. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: White_Orchid on June 09, 2010, 10:46:33 AM
Edit
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Badgirl777 on June 09, 2010, 11:00:56 AM
He is an exellent speaker who knows what to say and how to look.
What he say in public and what he think must not be the same....I can be wrong but i have no good feeling with him.
He needs new members and he is an old man of 77 years and he know how to act to become what he wants.
His permanent smile when he speaks about Michael in interviews in confusion....i think he isn't honest.
I had googled him today and there are articles about him that are not very nice.
In the UK he is a "persona non grata" and can't travel to the UK since 1986....there must be a reason that he can't change this status.
Much hoax activities come from the UK.....can be concidence...
He made such statements to catch the Michael Jackson fans....if i had not such a bad feeling when i saw him i find the speeches not bad....but every politicion makes speeches and acts absolut different !
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Badgirl777 on June 09, 2010, 11:18:40 AM
There is a Group from the NOI called the Nation of Gods and Earth...i only found a german article...there was mentioned the Number 7 ! as a importend number and much other we find with Michael.
And here something about the NOI...at the end Michael Jackson was mentioned ....that was new...i read it since nearly 10 months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam)

OK, it's Wikipedia......but not all must be false...
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Badgirl777 on June 09, 2010, 11:28:48 AM
Here the wikipedia info about the nation of gods and earth...the moon and the number 7

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nation ... and_Earths (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nation_of_Gods_and_Earths)
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: mehere on June 09, 2010, 11:30:55 AM
Anti Defamation League (ADL) Introduction
UPDATED: March 19, 2010
For nearly 30 years, Louis Farrakhan has marked himself a notable figure on the extremist scene by making hateful statements targeting Jews, whites and homosexuals.
Farrakhan's bigoted and anti-Semitic rhetoric has included statements calling whites "blue eyed devils" and Jews "bloodsuckers" that controlled the slave trade, the government, the media and various Black individuals and organizations. He frequently denies that Jews have a legitimate claim to their religion.
During his keynote address at the Nation of Islam's annual Saviors’ Day event in Chicago in February 2010, Farrakhan accused "Zionists" of controlling Congress and the Obama administration. He also advanced long-standing conspiracy theories about Jews and money, and asserted that the "the white right" is attempting to set up the assassination of President Barack Obama.
In July 2009, Farrakhan delivered an anti-Semitic tirade during a speech about Michael Jackson, alleging that that Zionist Jews are out to sabotage influential African Americans and claiming that the performer suffered at the hands of powerful Jews throughout his career.
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: clea on June 09, 2010, 11:34:05 AM
[quote = "White_Orchid"] Je vous remercie pour l'affichage, bénéficient toujours de l'histoire de Michael. (Mais ne font pas confiance Farrakhan) [/ quote]
Like you, I do not trust
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Badgirl777 on June 09, 2010, 11:35:36 AM
Here more, please i am so sorry it's german but it is intersting and please use a translation to read it !
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam)
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: clea on June 09, 2010, 11:36:26 AM
Quote from: "Badgirl777"
He is an exellent speaker who knows what to say and how to look.
What he say in public and what he think must not be the same....I can be wrong but i have no good feeling with him.
He needs new members and he is an old man of 77 years and he know how to act to become what he wants.
His permanent smile when he speaks about Michael in interviews in confusion....i think he isn't honest.
I had googled him today and there are articles about him that are not very nice.
In the UK he is a "persona non grata" and can't travel to the UK since 1986....there must be a reason that he can't change this status.
Much hoax activities come from the UK.....can be concidence...
He made such statements to catch the Michael Jackson fans....if i had not such a bad feeling when i saw him i find the speeches not bad....but every politicion makes speeches and acts absolut different !
Exactly
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Hazzely on June 09, 2010, 11:36:33 AM
Quote from: "Badgirl777"
He is an exellent speaker who knows what to say and how to look.
What he say in public and what he think must not be the same....I can be wrong but i have no good feeling with him.
He needs new members and he is an old man of 77 years and he know how to act to become what he wants.
His permanent smile when he speaks about Michael in interviews in confusion....i think he isn't honest.
I had googled him today and there are articles about him that are not very nice.
In the UK he is a "persona non grata" and can't travel to the UK since 1986....there must be a reason that he can't change this status.
Much hoax activities come from the UK.....can be concidence...
He made such statements to catch the Michael Jackson fans....if i had not such a bad feeling when i saw him i find the speeches not bad....but every politicion makes speeches and acts absolut different !

who knows..what we must judge from his videos is the way he pictured Michael. At least he didn't talk trash about him like some ppl did
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: clea on June 09, 2010, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: "mehere"
Anti Defamation League (ADL) Introduction
UPDATED: March 19, 2010
For nearly 30 years, Louis Farrakhan has marked himself a notable figure on the extremist scene by making hateful statements targeting Jews, whites and homosexuals.
Farrakhan's bigoted and anti-Semitic rhetoric has included statements calling whites "blue eyed devils" and Jews "bloodsuckers" that controlled the slave trade, the government, the media and various Black individuals and organizations. He frequently denies that Jews have a legitimate claim to their religion.
During his keynote address at the Nation of Islam's annual Saviors’ Day event in Chicago in February 2010, Farrakhan accused "Zionists" of controlling Congress and the Obama administration. He also advanced long-standing conspiracy theories about Jews and money, and asserted that the "the white right" is attempting to set up the assassination of President Barack Obama.
In July 2009, Farrakhan delivered an anti-Semitic tirade during a speech about Michael Jackson, alleging that that Zionist Jews are out to sabotage influential African Americans and claiming that the performer suffered at the hands of powerful Jews throughout his career.
Yes, I already read about him and even worse
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: whisper on June 09, 2010, 11:46:20 AM
It's nice hearing what he had to say about Michael, but unfortunately I think he's using MJ's name ..I don't have a good feeling about him nether less NOI is not the real Islam and very different beliefs. I didn't know him until know, had he ever said anything about MJ before this ??
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Badgirl777 on June 09, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
Yes, there are videos on youtube before the Death, but i am sure he used him always and he never ever could speak bad about him....he needs the fans !
I never heard him say that he don't like the white ppl or other bad things....he does everything for a good image outside, but we know it from the politic...it's all empty words !
Please read the links i had posted, they show the difference between the original Islam and the NOI.
In one video...i saw it last year he sad that he knew Michael since he go to Neverland !
Michael said in the Bashit Interviews some thinke that Farrakhan mentioned in interviews,,, from families and the children....has he to speak for Farrakhan . Daes he use him ?
Farrakhan has the gift to speak and the ppl are all with him.

Michael has a Spirtituell adviser June Gatlin....she is with the NOI and Farrakhan too. There is a video on youtube where she is singing at a event " Believe " Farrakhan was there !

There are so many conections and i rearly don't know if they ae helping or not.....i have a feeling that not... :cry:
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Badgirl777 on June 09, 2010, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "Badgirl777"
He is an exellent speaker who knows what to say and how to look.
What he say in public and what he think must not be the same....I can be wrong but i have no good feeling with him.
He needs new members and he is an old man of 77 years and he know how to act to become what he wants.
His permanent smile when he speaks about Michael in interviews in confusion....i think he isn't honest.
I had googled him today and there are articles about him that are not very nice.
In the UK he is a "persona non grata" and can't travel to the UK since 1986....there must be a reason that he can't change this status.
Much hoax activities come from the UK.....can be concidence...
He made such statements to catch the Michael Jackson fans....if i had not such a bad feeling when i saw him i find the speeches not bad....but every politicion makes speeches and acts absolut different !

who knows..what we must judge from his videos is the way he pictured Michael. At least he didn't talk trash about him like some ppl did


Sadly it isn't so easy...the one who speaks good is good and the one who speaks bad is bad...so sad, but it isn't so. It's business and everyone makes what is the best for his image, his money or what else.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you..this is a slogan that shows how to act.
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: MJonmind on June 09, 2010, 12:09:06 PM
Farrakhan is a great leader, speaker from what I've heard, but one of many black voices with his own ideology. What he says about Michael is truly uplifting. Sad he believes Michael dead, but I guess he's too busy to research. On the Islam theme, I've read that African blacks should not be thinking that it is their natural religion. It is not; it is Arabic or Semitic. The moslems spread their faith by force in all directions and Africans embraced it, just like some embraced Christianity when it was strongly spread there too. The original Old Testament Israelites were black-skinned ( HebrewIsraelites.org ) African's original religions are/were anamistic, Egyptian religions, various faiths from the old testament period. Blacks cannot return to Islam; it is not theirs. Egypt is original to them, but even that has been whitened.

One thing that stands out to me however, is (I've listened to MJ's Oxford awesome Oxford speech) what Michael says about Joe. For that reason alone, I believe the will giving his money to Katherine, 3 kids, and charity is a fake, or forged. Yeah everyone likes to hate on Joe, but MJ didn't, so neither should we. I believe Joe is very smart, is part of this hoax, and above all, Michael loves him and trusts him. He's made big mistakes and hurt his family, but he truly is the turning factor for everything in that Jackson family and is due much respect. I believe the Glenda tapes where MJ puts down his father as a leech, is fake as well.  This is a LONG story which isn't over yet. There will be another will, more accurately reflecting MJ's real intent. IMO
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Hazzely on June 09, 2010, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: "Badgirl777"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "Badgirl777"
He is an exellent speaker who knows what to say and how to look.
What he say in public and what he think must not be the same....I can be wrong but i have no good feeling with him.
He needs new members and he is an old man of 77 years and he know how to act to become what he wants.
His permanent smile when he speaks about Michael in interviews in confusion....i think he isn't honest.
I had googled him today and there are articles about him that are not very nice.
In the UK he is a "persona non grata" and can't travel to the UK since 1986....there must be a reason that he can't change this status.
Much hoax activities come from the UK.....can be concidence...
He made such statements to catch the Michael Jackson fans....if i had not such a bad feeling when i saw him i find the speeches not bad....but every politicion makes speeches and acts absolut different !

who knows..what we must judge from his videos is the way he pictured Michael. At least he didn't talk trash about him like some ppl did


Sadly it isn't so easy...the one who speaks good is good and the one who speaks bad is bad...so sad, but it isn't so. It's business and everyone makes what is the best for his image, his money or what else.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you..this is a slogan that shows how to act.

I think I never said the one who speaks good is good and the one who speaks bad is bad. I wasn't born yesterday..what I said is that at least he made a point and didn't trash talk Michael like some others did. If he used this to promote himself or not that I don't know. I don't know who this man is, nor do I have a clue about what was his life like, but to be honest, I don't even care.
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: DancingTheDream on June 09, 2010, 12:19:50 PM
Wasnt this the guy that MJ allegedly called up and begged for help...  and as far as we are aware Farrakhar didnt help him?????
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Hazzely on June 09, 2010, 12:24:07 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Wasnt this the guy that MJ allegedly called up and begged for help...  and as far as we are aware Farrakhar didnt help him?????

Now this would change everything. Where did you get that from? When did this happen?
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: DancingTheDream on June 09, 2010, 12:46:47 PM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Wasnt this the guy that MJ allegedly called up and begged for help...  and as far as we are aware Farrakhar didnt help him?????

Now this would change everything. Where did you get that from? When did this happen?

Found it:   see this thread   viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5954&p=94498&hilit=farrakhan#p94498 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5954&p=94498&hilit=farrakhan#p94498)



Lois Farrakhan, claims to have gotten a phone call from one of Michael's attorneys 7 days before he passed asking for help.
At 6:27 :
"But I got a call, I think 7 days before he passed away. It was from a lawyer, who's name I won't call, who said: Farrakhan, please get in touch with Michael, he is in serious trouble.
I said: what do you mean?
He said: Michael agreed to to do 10 concerts, now they've booked him for 50 and we're afraid that he won't be able to fulfil the obligation and he will be sued and this will be a way for them to take his legacy, the catalog that he owns.
I said: and what do you want me to do? He hasn't called me.
He said: but there are people close to him, that re follow us.
I said: really?
He said: Yes.
I said: well give me a few days, let me think about it. "

HE DID NOT HELP..  HE SAID HE NEEDED "TIME" TO THINK ABOUT IT..  WHAT A COP OUT!!!!
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Hazzely on June 09, 2010, 01:24:38 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Wasnt this the guy that MJ allegedly called up and begged for help...  and as far as we are aware Farrakhar didnt help him?????

Now this would change everything. Where did you get that from? When did this happen?

Found it:   see this thread   viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5954&p=94498&hilit=farrakhan#p94498 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5954&p=94498&hilit=farrakhan#p94498)



Lois Farrakhan, claims to have gotten a phone call from one of Michael's attorneys 7 days before he passed asking for help.
At 6:27 :
"But I got a call, I think 7 days before he passed away. It was from a lawyer, who's name I won't call, who said: Farrakhan, please get in touch with Michael, he is in serious trouble.
I said: what do you mean?
He said: Michael agreed to to do 10 concerts, now they've booked him for 50 and we're afraid that he won't be able to fulfil the obligation and he will be sued and this will be a way for them to take his legacy, the catalog that he owns.
I said: and what do you want me to do? He hasn't called me.
He said: but there are people close to him, that re follow us.
I said: really?
He said: Yes.
I said: well give me a few days, let me think about it. "

HE DID NOT HELP..  HE SAID HE NEEDED "TIME" TO THINK ABOUT IT..  WHAT A COP OUT!!!!

Found this other interview, at the end he talks a bit about the 50 concerts:

[youtube:3k35qu1g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BepIvg6wakI[/youtube:3k35qu1g]
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Believe 777 on June 09, 2010, 02:39:35 PM
I think there is a big connection between MJ and Farrakhan. MJ was apparently surrounded by NoI prior to his 'death'. I strongly believe he was being helped and protected by them. I don't think that Farrakhan would have gone off for a few days to think about whether or not to help Michael, when he really needed him, especially when his own children are so close to the Jackson family, I think he would have been there like a shot.

Here is an interesting interview:-

FARRAKHAN: Well, I don't know the Jackson family as well as my children. My children grew up with the Jackson family. My children adored the Jackson family. They were... my son Mustapha, my son Joshua, my daughter, they were  involved in many ways with the Jacksons.

I met Michael several years ago, and I loved him long before I met him. But after meeting him -- such a gentle spirit, such a beautful human being.

http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2009/07 ... akhan.html (http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-and-louis-farrakhan.html)
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: liegi on June 09, 2010, 02:41:05 PM
Unless he DID help!
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Believe 777 on June 09, 2010, 03:20:32 PM
Quote from: "liegi"
Unless he DID help!

In my view, this is very likely.
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: liegi on June 09, 2010, 04:08:52 PM
No one paid attention to these videos when they came out because too much else was going on and the Nation of Islam issue was very sensitive because Farrakhan is an extremely controversial man because of his alleged anti-Semitism (which comes out, I think, in They Don't Really Care About Us).  However, it can't be a coincidence that Michael chose this work to be the first one played when his death was announced. Surely, another work,  perhaps more familiar and less controversial, such as Billie Jean or Beat It, could have played the airwaves. But this one was played and replayed. I remember this well.  
So, it could be that Farrakhan was able to intervene.  Or maybe he was part of the puzzle.
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Butterflyaway on June 09, 2010, 04:26:05 PM
So yes Farrakhan did say some great things about MJ, but he didn't always like MJ.  In the late 80's or early 90's he had some very mean things to say about MJ. But yes then he met him and his opinion changed like so many others.

Whether or not he's involed;  Um I'm leaning toward no.  But I could be wrong.  Everyone can't know
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 09, 2010, 06:51:07 PM
The people surrounding Michael through his last year, have definite Nation of Islam connections:
Rwaramba had ties to the black militant organisation, the Nation of Islam, and its controversial leader, Louis Farrakhan, whom she enlisted for help in running Jackson’s affairs.
Before long, the Nation was supplying Jackson’s security detail and Farrakhan’s son-in-law, Leonard Muhammad, was appointed as Jackson’s business manager, though his role has lessened significantly in recent years.In late 2008, a shadowy figure who called himself Dr Tohme Tohme suddenly emerged as Jackson’s ‘official spokesman’.
Tohme has been alternately described as a Saudi Arabian billionaire and an orthopaedic surgeon, but he is actually a Lebanese businessman who does not have a medical licence. At one point, Tohme claimed he was an ambassador at large for Senegal, but the Senegalese embassy said they had never heard of him.

Tohme’s own ties to the Nation of Islam came to light in March 2009, when New York auctioneer Darren Julien was conducting an auction of Michael Jackson memorabilia.
Julien filed an affidavit in Los Angeles Superior Court that month in which he described a meeting he had with Tohme’s business partner, James R. Weller. According to Julien’s account, ‘Weller said if we refused to postpone [the auction], we would be in danger from 'Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam; those people are very protective of Michael'.
He told us that Dr Tohme and Michael Jackson wanted to give the message to us that 'our lives are at stake and there will be bloodshed'.’A month after these alleged threats, Tohme accompanied Jackson to a meeting at a Las Vegas hotel with Randy Phillips, chief executive of the AEG Group, to finalise plans for Jackson’s return to the concert stage.Jackson’s handlers had twice before said no to Phillips. This time, with Tohme acting as his confidant, Jackson left the room agreeing to perform ten concerts at the O2.
Before long, however, ten concerts had turned into 50 and the potential revenues had skyrocketed. ‘The vultures who were pulling his strings somehow managed to put this concert extravaganza together behind his back, then presented it to him as a fait accompli,’ said one aide.
‘The money was just unbelievable and all his financial people were telling him he was facing bankruptcy. But Michael still resisted. He didn’t think he could pull it off.’
Eventually, they wore him down, the aide explained, but not with the money argument.
‘They told him that this would be the greatest comeback the world had ever known. That’s what convinced him.
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: ABeautifulMind on June 09, 2010, 11:28:09 PM
Quote from: "White_Orchid"
Thank you for posting, always enjoy the story of Michael.  (but don't trust Farrakhan)

Farrakhan is a great man and strong leader.
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: ABeautifulMind on June 09, 2010, 11:33:11 PM
Quote from: "Badgirl777"
There is a Group from the NOI called the Nation of Gods and Earth...i only found a german article...there was mentioned the Number 7 ! as a importend number and much other we find with Michael.
And here something about the NOI...at the end Michael Jackson was mentioned ....that was new...i read it since nearly 10 months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam)

OK, it's Wikipedia......but not all must be false...

NOI and the Nation of Gods and earth are 2 separate things actually. Both may preach similarities, but are different. I know this trust me.
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: wilds on June 09, 2010, 11:53:14 PM
This discussion has come up several times and everytime the focus is taken away from what Farrakhan is actually saying about our beloved Michael, to about Farrakhan used a racial slur, insulted a group of people, etc, etc... LISTEN TO WHAT THE MAN IS SAYING! Then tell me - Is it NOT the TRUTH?? Is what he saying a lie or is it the truth? I haven't heard anyone else describe in such a real and edifying way the actual Essence of Michael Jackson the way this man does. So for anyone who hasn't watched the video, don't be discouraged by negative comments - Watch it for YOURSELF and be the judge.
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: this1crazygirl on June 10, 2010, 12:26:50 AM
people should not exclude Farrakhan's greatness because of his views... if anything we should be asking how/why he formed his views about whatever...
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: darkchild on June 10, 2010, 01:11:17 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
The people surrounding Michael through his last year, have definite Nation of Islam connections:
Rwaramba had ties to the black militant organisation, the Nation of Islam, and its controversial leader, Louis Farrakhan, whom she enlisted for help in running Jackson’s affairs.
Before long, the Nation was supplying Jackson’s security detail and Farrakhan’s son-in-law, Leonard Muhammad, was appointed as Jackson’s business manager, though his role has lessened significantly in recent years.In late 2008, a shadowy figure who called himself Dr Tohme Tohme suddenly emerged as Jackson’s ‘official spokesman’.
Tohme has been alternately described as a Saudi Arabian billionaire and an orthopaedic surgeon, but he is actually a Lebanese businessman who does not have a medical licence. At one point, Tohme claimed he was an ambassador at large for Senegal, but the Senegalese embassy said they had never heard of him.

Tohme’s own ties to the Nation of Islam came to light in March 2009, when New York auctioneer Darren Julien was conducting an auction of Michael Jackson memorabilia.
Julien filed an affidavit in Los Angeles Superior Court that month in which he described a meeting he had with Tohme’s business partner, James R. Weller. According to Julien’s account, ‘Weller said if we refused to postpone [the auction], we would be in danger from 'Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam; those people are very protective of Michael'.
He told us that Dr Tohme and Michael Jackson wanted to give the message to us that 'our lives are at stake and there will be bloodshed'.’A month after these alleged threats, Tohme accompanied Jackson to a meeting at a Las Vegas hotel with Randy Phillips, chief executive of the AEG Group, to finalise plans for Jackson’s return to the concert stage.Jackson’s handlers had twice before said no to Phillips. This time, with Tohme acting as his confidant, Jackson left the room agreeing to perform ten concerts at the O2.
Before long, however, ten concerts had turned into 50 and the potential revenues had skyrocketed. ‘The vultures who were pulling his strings somehow managed to put this concert extravaganza together behind his back, then presented it to him as a fait accompli,’ said one aide.
‘The money was just unbelievable and all his financial people were telling him he was facing bankruptcy. But Michael still resisted. He didn’t think he could pull it off.’
Eventually, they wore him down, the aide explained, but not with the money argument.
‘They told him that this would be the greatest comeback the world had ever known. That’s what convinced him.

Absolutely brillant synopsis! God bless you for this information. :)
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: darkchild on June 10, 2010, 01:12:14 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
The people surrounding Michael through his last year, have definite Nation of Islam connections:
Rwaramba had ties to the black militant organisation, the Nation of Islam, and its controversial leader, Louis Farrakhan, whom she enlisted for help in running Jackson’s affairs.
Before long, the Nation was supplying Jackson’s security detail and Farrakhan’s son-in-law, Leonard Muhammad, was appointed as Jackson’s business manager, though his role has lessened significantly in recent years.In late 2008, a shadowy figure who called himself Dr Tohme Tohme suddenly emerged as Jackson’s ‘official spokesman’.
Tohme has been alternately described as a Saudi Arabian billionaire and an orthopaedic surgeon, but he is actually a Lebanese businessman who does not have a medical licence. At one point, Tohme claimed he was an ambassador at large for Senegal, but the Senegalese embassy said they had never heard of him.

Tohme’s own ties to the Nation of Islam came to light in March 2009, when New York auctioneer Darren Julien was conducting an auction of Michael Jackson memorabilia.
Julien filed an affidavit in Los Angeles Superior Court that month in which he described a meeting he had with Tohme’s business partner, James R. Weller. According to Julien’s account, ‘Weller said if we refused to postpone [the auction], we would be in danger from 'Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam; those people are very protective of Michael'.
He told us that Dr Tohme and Michael Jackson wanted to give the message to us that 'our lives are at stake and there will be bloodshed'.’A month after these alleged threats, Tohme accompanied Jackson to a meeting at a Las Vegas hotel with Randy Phillips, chief executive of the AEG Group, to finalise plans for Jackson’s return to the concert stage.Jackson’s handlers had twice before said no to Phillips. This time, with Tohme acting as his confidant, Jackson left the room agreeing to perform ten concerts at the O2.
Before long, however, ten concerts had turned into 50 and the potential revenues had skyrocketed. ‘The vultures who were pulling his strings somehow managed to put this concert extravaganza together behind his back, then presented it to him as a fait accompli,’ said one aide.
‘The money was just unbelievable and all his financial people were telling him he was facing bankruptcy. But Michael still resisted. He didn’t think he could pull it off.’
Eventually, they wore him down, the aide explained, but not with the money argument.
‘They told him that this would be the greatest comeback the world had ever known. That’s what convinced him.

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Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 10, 2010, 01:18:46 AM
These are the symbols from "We are the World".  Uses as a background during the memorial as well... The half moon and star is Nation of Islam symbol:
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: Sangre on June 10, 2010, 10:31:26 AM
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He is an exellent speaker who knows what to say and how to look.
What he say in public and what he think must not be the same....I can be wrong but i have no good feeling with him.
He needs new members and he is an old man of 77 years and he know how to act to become what he wants.
His permanent smile when he speaks about Michael in interviews in confusion....i think he isn't honest.
I had googled him today and there are articles about him that are not very nice.
In the UK he is a "persona non grata" and can't travel to the UK since 1986....there must be a reason that he can't change this status.
Much hoax activities come from the UK.....can be concidence...
He made such statements to catch the Michael Jackson fans....if i had not such a bad feeling when i saw him i find the speeches not bad....but every politicion makes speeches and acts absolut different !

who knows..what we must judge from his videos is the way he pictured Michael. At least he didn't talk trash about him like some ppl did


Sadly it isn't so easy...the one who speaks good is good and the one who speaks bad is bad...so sad, but it isn't so. It's business and everyone makes what is the best for his image, his money or what else.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you..this is a slogan that shows how to act.

I agree. People speaking publicly take a role and even a school teaches takes a role in front of the class room.
Title: Re: You really need to see this. . Louis Farrakhan about MJ
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 13, 2010, 08:23:35 AM
On Dec. 18, 2003, the New York Post reported, “Michael Jackson has become a member of the black group Nation of Islam.”

Similarly, on Feb. 24, 2007, the San Francisco Chronicle followed up: “Pop superstar Michael Jackson has confirmed his conversion to Islam, according to reports in the Middle East. The Arab-Israeli newspaper Panorama claims Jackson has announced the move and revealed plans to move to Bahrain.”

After being hounded by attorneys, creditors, and critics, longtime former nanny Grace Rwaramba felt this move did not serve Jackson’s best interests, as Nation of Islam security men and handlers began ripping him off on a large scale. She cites two examples where they vastly overcharged him on rental properties, and pilfered substantial amounts of money from a personal appearance in Japan.
Much of this activity can be attributed to Leonard Muhammad, son-in-law of Louis Farrakhan (the man erroneously accused of calling Judaism a “gutter religion”).

Roger Friedman of Fox News explained on Jan. 14, 2004, “Nation of Islam chief of staff Leonard Muhammad is now, for all intents and purposes, running Jackson’s schedule and businesses. He was seated at the head of the table at a summit meeting for Jackson’s lawyers and accountants.”

With Muhammad acting as his manager, Rwaramba stated that the Nation of Islam also exerted great influence on Jackson’s children. This situation created further turmoil with the mother of his children. Friedman continued, “[Debbie] Rowe has complained to friends that she does not want her children, Paris and Prince, exposed to the Nation of Islam. . . . She has told these friends that she is Jewish, and that the children, by birth, are Jewish, too.”

One individual brought in to handle Jackson’s affairs was “official spokesman” Dr. Tohme R. Tohme, a Lebanese businessman claiming to be an “ambassador-at- large for the country of Senegal.” However, two problems arise in regard to his purported

Tohme and his business partner, James Weller (described as a Nation of Islam strong-arm) created a firestorm when they threatened the lives of two creditors who intended to sell Jackson memorabilia. If they proceeded, Tohme told them, “there will be bloodshed to the auctioneers.” Needless to say, they filed a lawsuit against Jackson.

Another physician—Dr. Conrad Murray—actually lived with Jackson and tried to administer CPR when the singer neared death. His past is also quite shady, as he’s not certified in either internal medicine or cardiology. He filed for bankruptcy in 1992 and has five tax liens. He also saw three judgments totaling over $435,000 filed against his company in 2008.

Dr. Tohme nonetheless manipulated Jackson—with his physical condition deteriorating—into accepting an arduous 50-concert tour promoted by AEG Live.

Ironically, the firm’s owner, Phillip Anschutz, is a Jewish businessman Fortune magazine called in its Sept. 2, 2002 edition, “the greediest executive in America.”

AEG then advanced Michael Jackson $10 million (most of which his middlemen gobbled up), and appointed Conrad Murray as his personal physician. Fueled by eight different drugs—Demerol, Dilaudid, Vicodin, Soma, Xanax, Zoloft, Paxil and Prilosec—the “King of Pop,” Jackson ultimately succumbed to the same tragic fate as the “King of Rock,” Elvis Presley.

On June 27, journalist Ian Halperin wrote in the UK’s Daily Mail, “Michael Jackson was driven by a cabal of bankers, agents, doctors and advisers to commit to the grueling 50 concerts in London’s o2 Arena.”

 He then quoted a former employee, who crystallized how each party involved wanted their ounce of flesh from Jackson. “It’s not like he’s in control of his own life anymore. It sounds like somebody else is pulling his strings and telling him what to do. Someone wants him dead. They keep feeding him pills like candy. They’re trying to push him over the edge. He needs serious help. The people around him will kill him.”

Victor Thorn is a hard-hitting researcher, journalist and the author of many books on 9-11 and the New World Order. These include 9-11 Evil: The Israeli Role in 9-11 and Phantom Flight 93.
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