Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: wishingstar on June 07, 2010, 10:47:12 PM

Title: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 07, 2010, 10:47:12 PM
OK...I know numbers are not all that popular...lol! I am not really a numbers person myself.  However, what I am going to share with you is quite a few, "coincidences"! This might be a little long so hold on tight, it's going to be a bumpy ride!  
I few weeks ago I started looking into the meaning of words, specifically words associated with Michael.  I stumbled across the typical word calculator sites.  One caught my eye, in particular.  http://www.wordcalculator.co.uk (http://www.wordcalculator.co.uk)  For about 2-3 weeks I'd hang on that site and plug in words related to MJ or the hoax. The results were amazing.  The word calculator worked very simply....a=1, b=2, c=3 etc.  I know this has been on here....but I think I have gotten a little deeper.  So I used the site, right?  After about about 2-3 weeks.....it posted a general "good-bye, thanks for visiting, this site is going away" note, signed by someone named william.  Now the site is completely gone, does not exist.  Good thing I wrote down all the words, numbers and associated words/phrases that also matched.  The site allowed me to type in a word.  The site would then give me the, "number" of the word, plus any other words or phrases that would also match that same number.  For instance, I typed, "Michael"  it came back with the number 51 and the words: saved, share, cured and Rome.  How interesting?  I am going to now list out most of the other words.  I will put the number, the word I typed in, then the words/phrases that came back to me.  Ready?
113=This Is it= prediction, dream-world
113= Propofol= prediction, dream-world
113= Auditory= prediction, dream-world
93= Diprivan= desperate, passion, writer, Mozart, poster, audition, Wacko Jacko, Louvre
73=Jackson= crazy, loves, patience
73=Joseph= crazy, loves, patience
30= Joe= peace, baby
79=Billie Jean= paradox, remember, listen
102= Thriller= world-peace, flashlight
57= Beat It= England, changes
127= Moonwalker= the-real-thing
107= Earth Song= Aquarius
175=Man In The Mirror= your-destiny
69=Kenny=message, i-believe, ghost, saved-me
69= Beyonce
110=Adventure= look-for-me, wait-for-me (I kid you not guys!)
127= Black or White= the-real-thing
132= Army of LOVE= live-to-tell
78= Army of= start, genesis
54=LOVE= play, our
114= History= prisoner, the-beginning
75= Shamone= friends, genius, marry
103= piece-by-piece= have-faith-in
92= fire engine= I-believe-in, look-for, wait-for
92= Staples
65= Center= stay, save-me, music, Vienna, seven, Pepsi
65= Prince, Blanket
65=Bamsday
63= Paris= try, i-love
63= Ireland
77= Simmer= wants, power, wake-up
87= truth= dream-link, is-a-feeling
135= shall prevail= bring-me-to-life  (this freaked me out!)
50= tomb=June 15 2010, flesh
120= Doppelganger= Illuminati, Archangel Michael, planet Earth
82= backwards= Mr. Magoo, Earth Day
49= Carol= alive, escape
57= Wood= England, Beat It, deceived, fooled, actor
124=shove-a-fist= Michael Jackson, mad-tea-party
110= wonderland= adventure, summer of 2010
I have so much more......let me know if you want them........I will be happy to post......they are amazing coincidences.
I also plugged in a few numbers:
7= Bad
17= Back
71= dreaming, spider
71= John Doe (interesting that the ambulance had 71 on it)

When I lost use of that website, I found another http://www.gematrix.org (http://www.gematrix.org)
it has been very useful with this adventure!  Gematria seems to be the term for this.
Just a little more...........
remember the sunflowers at the tomb?  Remember the frame?  Why a frame? (a big thanks to lilwendy's investigation for posting the pic!)  I teach art history to kids, so I immediately thought Van Gogh when I saw it on TMZ.....lilwendy reminded me of it  :D
74= Van Gogh = Gematria, London    
152=sunflowers=double-trouble, eyes-open-and-see, the-secret-sign
142=sun shower= seventh-sign, forty-two (Elvis' age ;) )
also in that tomb pic was something else that caught my eye....white orchids (very pretty)
122=white orchid= great-deceiver (no disrespect to our fellow hoxie : white_orchid)  ;)

I think that's more than enough for one post.......I get going and going and going.....sorry!
I have another post coming....about the garbage cans and plates!  
Blessings to all..........
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on June 07, 2010, 10:50:58 PM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
OK...I know numbers are not all that popular...lol! I am not really a numbers person myself.  However, what I am going to share with you is quite a few, "coincidences"! This might be a little long so hold on tight, it's going to be a bumpy ride!  
I few weeks ago I started looking into the meaning of words, specifically words associated with Michael.  I stumbled across the typical word calculator sites.  One caught my eye, in particular.  http://www.wordcalculator.co.uk (http://www.wordcalculator.co.uk)  For about 2-3 weeks I'd hang on that site and plug in words related to MJ or the hoax. The results were amazing.  The word calculator worked very simply....a=1, b=2, c=3 etc.  I know this has been on here....but I think I have gotten a little deeper.  So I used the site, right?  After about about 2-3 weeks.....it posted a general "good-bye, thanks for visiting, this site is going away" note, signed by someone named william.  Now the site is completely gone, does not exist.  Good thing I wrote down all the words, numbers and associated words/phrases that also matched.  The site allowed me to type in a word.  The site would then give me the, "number" of the word, plus any other words or phrases that would also match that same number.  For instance, I typed, "Michael"  it came back with the number 51 and the words: saved, share, cured and Rome.  How interesting?  I am going to now list out most of the other words.  I will put the number, the word I typed in, then the words/phrases that came back to me.  Ready?
113=This Is it= prediction, dream-world
113= Propofol= prediction, dream-world
113= Auditory= prediction, dream-world
93= Diprivan= desperate, passion, writer, Mozart, poster, audition, Wacko Jacko, Louvre
73=Jackson= crazy, loves, patience
73=Joseph= crazy, loves, patience
30= Joe= peace, baby
79=Billie Jean= paradox, remember, listen
102= Thriller= world-peace, flashlight
57= Beat It= England, changes
127= Moonwalker= the-real-thing
107= Earth Song= Aquarius
175=Man In The Mirror= your-destiny
69=Kenny=message, i-believe, ghost, saved-me
69= Beyonce
110=Adventure= look-for-me, wait-for-me (I kid you not guys!)
127= Black or White= the-real-thing
132= Army of LOVE= live-to-tell
78= Army of= start, genesis
54=LOVE= play, our
114= History= prisoner, the-beginning
75= Shamone= friends, genius, marry
103= piece-by-piece= have-faith-in
92= fire engine= I-believe-in, look-for, wait-for
92= Staples
65= Center= stay, save-me, music, Vienna, seven, Pepsi
65= Prince, Blanket
65=Bamsday
63= Paris= try, i-love
63= Ireland
77= Simmer= wants, power, wake-up
87= truth= dream-link, is-a-feeling
135= shall prevail= bring-me-to-life  (this freaked me out!)
50= tomb=June 15 2010, flesh
120= Doppelganger= Illuminati, Archangel Michael, planet Earth
82= backwards= Mr. Magoo, Earth Day
49= Carol= alive, escape
57= Wood= England, Beat It, deceived, fooled, actor
124=shove-a-fist= Michael Jackson, mad-tea-party
110= wonderland= adventure, summer of 2010
I have so much more......let me know if you want them........I will be happy to post......they are amazing coincidences.
I also plugged in a few numbers:
7= Bad
17= Back
71= dreaming, spider
71= John Doe (interesting that the ambulance had 71 on it)

When I lost use of that website, I found another http://www.gematrix.org (http://www.gematrix.org)
it has been very useful with this adventure!  Gematria seems to be the term for this.
Just a little more...........
remember the sunflowers at the tomb?  Remember the frame?  Why a frame? (a big thanks to lilwendy's investigation for posting the pic!)  I teach art history to kids, so I immediately thought Van Gogh when I saw it on TMZ.....lilwendy reminded me of it  :D
74= Van Gogh = Gematria, London    
152=sunflowers=double-trouble, eyes-open-and-see, the-secret-sign
142=sun shower= seventh-sign, forty-two (Elvis' age ;) )
also in that tomb pic was something else that caught my eye....white orchids (very pretty)
122=white orchid= great-deceiver (no disrespect to our fellow hoxie : white_orchid)  ;)

I think that's more than enough for one post.......I get going and going and going.....sorry!
I have another post coming....about the garbage cans and plates!  
Blessings to all..........
...or you can read my posts. :D  I do this stuff a lot!!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: mjssoulmate on June 07, 2010, 10:54:43 PM
Wow.  That is very interesting, and eerie.

Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 07, 2010, 10:57:07 PM
Amazing! could you post the rest of the coincidences?  :shock:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: samsuperb on June 07, 2010, 11:10:03 PM
n/a
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: suspicious mind on June 07, 2010, 11:16:02 PM
1967 elvis movie  DOUBLE TROUBLE
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: RK on June 07, 2010, 11:26:23 PM
Please post the rest. This is fascinating.
50=tomb=June 15,2010   flesh.
This month is going to be a hugh one. Doesn't Murray go to court on the 14th?
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: samsuperb on June 07, 2010, 11:27:14 PM
Quote from: "RK"
Please post the rest. This is fascinating.
50=tomb=June 15,2010   flesh.
This month is going to be a hugh one. Doesn't Murray go to court on the 14th?
Yes he does
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 07, 2010, 11:35:57 PM
Wow - you people are amazing! it's too bad the one site is now gone. thank you for sharing this with us. Blessings :)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 08, 2010, 12:15:48 AM
The rest of the coincidences.........happy to, thanks!
95= Neverland= is-the-one, discover, Halloween, film-making, duplicated
38 = TII = death, Africa, change
113 = Captain Hook = This Is It, prediction, dream-world, auditory, propofol (form the first post)
39=angel= mate, team, cardiac
81= arrest= beginning, another
120= cardiac arrest= Illuminati, doppelganger, Archangel Michael, Planet Earth (from 1st post)
51= find me = Michael (from the first post)
143= Wizard of Oz = change-the-world, it-takes-two
95= Peter Pan= is-the-one, have-no-fear
82= backwards= a-beginning, love-is
37= UCLA= dies, begin, Dubai
91= in July= a-reality, future, mirror
133= forest lawn= everything, you-love-me, is-the-reason, is-so-amazing
124= I love you= the-future, the mirror, Michael Jackson (from 1st post)
73= Sony= crazy, loves, patience, Jackson (from 1st)
90= make believe= reality, real-love
41=garbage= dream, lock, key, help
83= Monkey= connected, believe-in, waiting, lonely
58= Please= drive, is-peace, feeling, in-reach, two
41=Help= dream, lock, key, garbage  ("monkey please help"-Paris' you tube vid)
71= demanding= dreaming, spider, john doe (from 1st post)
110= Christmas= accidental death, adventure, summer of 2010  
175= it is all for love= man in the mirror, your destiny

I spelled out a few words:
believe = 60 in Gematria I spelled it out....
97=sixty=the Beatles, airport      

o2 arena I spelled out otwo
73=otwo=jackson

That's most of it......very odd coincidences.....if I find more, I'll post them :D
(sorry about my paragraphs......I'm a newbie lol)  
Have a great day!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 08, 2010, 12:24:32 AM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
The rest of the coincidences.........happy to, thanks!
95= Neverland= is-the-one, discover, Halloween, film-making, duplicated
38 = TII = death, Africa, change
113 = Captain Hook = This Is It, prediction, dream-world, auditory, propofol (form the first post)
39=angel= mate, team, cardiac
81= arrest= beginning, another
120= cardiac arrest= Illuminati, doppelganger, Archangel Michael, Planet Earth (from 1st post)
51= find me = Michael (from the first post)
143= Wizard of Oz = change-the-world, it-takes-two
95= Peter Pan= is-the-one, have-no-fear
82= backwards= a-beginning, love-is
37= UCLA= dies, begin, Dubai
91= in July= a-reality, future, mirror
133= forest lawn= everything, you-love-me, is-the-reason, is-so-amazing
124= I love you= the-future, the mirror, Michael Jackson (from 1st post)
73= Sony= crazy, loves, patience, Jackson (from 1st)
90= make believe= reality, real-love
41=garbage= dream, lock, key, help
83= Monkey= connected, believe-in, waiting, lonely
58= Please= drive, is-peace, feeling, in-reach, two
41=Help= dream, lock, key, garbage  ("monkey please help"-Paris' you tube vid)
71= demanding= dreaming, spider, john doe (from 1st post)
110= Christmas= accidental death, adventure, summer of 2010  
175= it is all for love= man in the mirror, your destiny

I spelled out a few words:
believe = 60 in Gematria I spelled it out....
97=sixty=the Beatles, airport      

o2 arena I spelled out otwo
73=otwo=jackson

That's most of it......very odd coincidences.....if I find more, I'll post them :D
(sorry about my paragraphs......I'm a newbie lol)  
Have a great day!

This is so awesome! Thank you for making my day even if this may mean nothing. It cheered me up  ;)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MJonmind on June 08, 2010, 12:45:07 AM
Very amazing! Good find. I can't help but feel that somebody that knows Michael's hoax story is sitting on the site giving back the words and phrases that relate more to MJ. Maybe the William was Will.I.Am. Does this new gematrics site give the same words back to you? It's definately freaky. :shock:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: scorpionchik on June 08, 2010, 12:55:15 AM
Very nice!
SO, 51-MICHAEL-FIND ME! HA!
I guess Michael still lives in his childhood and plays Blind man's buff with us.  :D
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 08, 2010, 01:00:32 AM
I do think special words/phrases are being sent out....somehow.  When the site shut down all of a sudden, I felt like I had got too close.  I was typing in all these words associated and poof, site gone. The other site is still up and going....it's ok, but the first site was better.  Glad you asked about Will i am.....that is what I first thought when the site went down.  I am going to go out on a limb here.......how much do we know about Will i am?  Black Eyed Peas, worked with Michael some......acted in a some movies.....hummmm, very interesting...talented dude, no doubt!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 08, 2010, 01:05:29 AM
Almost forgot  ;)
79= Will i am = Billie Jean, listen, paradox, remember, rehearse
very odd indeed!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: samsuperb on June 08, 2010, 01:08:01 AM
What abou the rabbit?
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: samsuperb on June 08, 2010, 01:32:13 AM
I do not see man in the mirror and jhon doe :?:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: samsuperb on June 08, 2010, 01:33:31 AM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
I do think special words/phrases are being sent out....somehow.  When the site shut down all of a sudden, I felt like I had got too close.  I was typing in all these words associated and poof, site gone. The other site is still up and going....it's ok, but the first site was better.  Glad you asked about Will i am.....that is what I first thought when the site went down.  I am going to go out on a limb here.......how much do we know about Will i am?  Black Eyed Peas, worked with Michael some......acted in a some movies.....hummmm, very interesting...talented dude, no doubt!
How did you know what words to type?
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 08, 2010, 06:08:23 AM
:o  :o  :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Foxello on June 08, 2010, 06:17:53 AM
The number coincidences are amazing....BUT......would MJ really go through all the hassle of ensuring everything that he wrote, recorded, named, etc, were linked to the death hoax? Great investigating, but on this occasion I think it may just be a coincidence, albeit a quite spooky one  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 08, 2010, 09:08:33 AM
Thanks for the responses......makes me feel better to know I am not the only one who finds these coincidences odd.  Foxello- in no way do I think Michael wrote songs, planned his life around all these.....that's too much, you are right!   However, there are some really weird ones.....let's look at the number 71:  Michael climbed out of a huge spider in TII; why a spider...sure it's creepy, it's Thriller etc. but, spider happens to also equal 71.  71 was on the ambulance.  There has been talk of someone else died instead, don't know who exactly....that's a John Doe to us correct?  Three guesses what "John Doe" equals?  71  

The new site gives me some of the same words.  It always adds up the correct number.  That first sight gave some interesting phrases:  I typed in, "Eyes Have it"  (from a TMZ article)
I got the phrase, "happy-ending"....just odd.  Man In The Mirror = your-destiny came from the first site I had.  The new site also lists the phrases "Seventy Seven" and "In God We Trust" as a match for Man In The Mirror (all with 175 number)  

Awesome catch on the Elvis movie!  Of all people to want sunflowers for Michael...LMP?  
Also, if sunflowers were really his favorite flower....why don't we see them at the memorial or burial?  One would think a favorite flower would be present there??????  

Rabbit....good word!  let's take a look:
52= rabbit= Earth, Nwo, devil, kept, pride, heart  (another odd one!)  

As far as knowing what words.....I just started with the obvious; Michael, Jackson, etc. then started thinking of all the words/phrases we have seen.  Just now,  I just thought of trying Conrad Murray ......  151= Conrad Murray= Once Upon a Time  also equals Jesus Christ (that's out there.....but a really funny coincidence, ha?)

Anyways, you can see why I was nervous to post all this.  I know it's out there.....crazy, wild stuff!  Glad I did though.....thanks guys!  I am going to post about the garbage and plates later.... Have an awesome day!  Blessings!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on June 08, 2010, 11:40:30 AM
I think a lot of us have greatly underestimated the importance of numerology in the hoax, and in the real world for that matter.

I think it's wonderful that more people are doing their research and entertaining these ideas. Even if YOU don't "believe" in it, it's more than likely that Michael does (Elvis too). And it's important to remember that just because one doesn't believe in something, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

One thing I'm absolutely sure of, is that coincidences do not exist.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: tekamjforever on June 08, 2010, 02:36:38 PM
:shock:  :o  :o  :shock:
50= tomb=June 15 2010, flesh
65= Prince, Blanket
63= Paris= try, i-love
63= Ireland
69=Kenny=message, i-believe, ghost, saved-me
65=Bamsday
38 = TII = death, Africa, change
37= UCLA= dies, begin, Dubai
110= Christmas= accidental death, adventure, summer of 2010
 :shock:  :o  :o  :shock:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 08, 2010, 06:59:38 PM
...I went to that page and it's creepy..lol

Jackson = Go Forth And Conquer, Movie, In Your Face ( :lol:  at this one), The Last Trump, Living, Egypt

Dave Dave = Power dressing
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: tekamjforever on June 08, 2010, 07:06:55 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Very amazing! Good find. I can't help but feel that somebody that knows Michael's hoax story is sitting on the site giving back the words and phrases that relate more to MJ. Maybe the William was Will.I.Am. Does this new gematrics site give the same words back to you? It's definately freaky. :shock:

 :o  :o  :o  :?:  :?:  :?:   :? :cry:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 08, 2010, 07:10:12 PM
Quote from: "tekamjforever"
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Very amazing! Good find. I can't help but feel that somebody that knows Michael's hoax story is sitting on the site giving back the words and phrases that relate more to MJ. Maybe the William was Will.I.Am. Does this new gematrics site give the same words back to you? It's definately freaky. :shock:

 :o  :o  :o  :?:  :?:  :?:   :? :cry:

lol no it doesn't work like that, there are just random words people type and according to the numbers you get, you will get one word or another..noone gives you nothing. That's aleatory
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 09, 2010, 08:39:43 AM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
I think a lot of us have greatly underestimated the importance of numerology in the hoax, and in the real world for that matter.

I think it's wonderful that more people are doing their research and entertaining these ideas. Even if YOU don't "believe" in it, it's more than likely that Michael does (Elvis too). And it's important to remember that just because one doesn't believe in something, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

One thing I'm absolutely sure of, is that coincidences do not exist.

Perfectly said!  Thank you so much!  So many investigators have inspired me to dig around and think differently.  It's been a real learning experience and opened my eyes to many things.  Blessings Always!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: suspicious mind on June 09, 2010, 09:25:57 AM
152 - sunflowers- double trouble

at a family gathering last night my sister-in -law who's father had just passed not long ago mentioned that someone in the family made a wreath with sunflowers for memorial day because that was his favorite flower. i quickly ask my brother to confirm what i already knew which is that he was a capricorn. know who else was capricorn. elvis.

 ;)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on June 09, 2010, 09:35:44 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
152 - sunflowers- double trouble

at a family gathering last night my sister-in -law who's father had just passed not long ago mentioned that someone in the family made a wreath with sunflowers for memorial day because that was his favorite flower. i quickly ask my brother to confirm what i already knew which is that he was a capricorn. know who else was capricorn. elvis.

 ;)

Wow!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on June 09, 2010, 09:52:02 AM
Not to be a party pooper but...
I found a Gematria calculator site also and there are three types of calculations:
Jewish Gematria
English Gematria
Simple Gematria

I put the word Neverland into this calculator and obtained the following results:
neverland in Jewish Gematria Equals: 895      (     n40   e5   v700   e5   r80   l20   a1   n40   d4      )
neverland in English Gematria Equals: 570    (    n84   e30   v132   e30   r108   l72   a6   n84   d24    )
neverland in Simple Gematria Equals: 95 (    n14   e5   v22   e5   r18   l12   a1   n14   d4    )

The OP obtained 95 for the word Neverland so this seems to be a simple calculation. The other words that are coming up are only other words that also have a value of 95 when put into the calculator. The words do not actually have any relation to one another besides the same numerical value of the letters when calculated but many words would have the same calculated value. Take Neverland again, one of the words that came up was "discover"

discover in Jewish Gematria Equals: 941      (     d4   i9   s90   c3   o50   v700   e5   r80     )
discover in English Gematria Equals: 570    (    d24   i54   s114   c18   o90   v132   e30   r108    )
discover in Simple Gematria Equals: 95    (    d4   i9   s19   c3   o15   v22   e5   r18    )

So all that means is that the letters used to create the words Neverland and Discover have the same numerical value using simple Germatria and not really a coincidence many words would have a value of 95 using this system because all words have a numerical value to begin with.
http://www.gematrix.org/?word=discover
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on June 09, 2010, 10:03:55 AM
Just to note, I put my real name in and some of the words with a similar value of 78 include:
Porno
Tooth
Little
Baby be mine
Childhood
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: suspicious mind on June 09, 2010, 10:20:12 AM
also get the impression there is a connection between current intries and previous intries. as almost  every time the name obama came up it was connected with evil.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on June 09, 2010, 10:34:12 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
also get the impression there is a connection between current intries and previous intries. as almost  every time the name obama came up it was connected with evil.

Ha!  :lol:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: amy on June 09, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
:roll:  :arrow:  :?:  whts all this
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MJonmind on June 09, 2010, 02:55:14 PM
I checked out www.gematrix.org (http://www.gematrix.org) and did a few searches. It seems there are words given that are either favorable or negative, could go either way. For instance Thriller = Yehoushua, Murderer, King Tut;  and Michael Jackson= Father of Lies, Son of Satan, the abomination of desolation, Power of God, One love; Michael Joe Jackson= The Anti-Christ, Gone too Soon.

But it's almost like some right-wing fundamentalist is working behind the scenes trying to smear Michael. It just seems that for Michael Jackson being a huge household-word/name someone HAS  TO  BE CHOOSING and selecting words/phrases to drop into people's minds. I'm kinda mixed with this thing... :shock:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 09, 2010, 03:25:26 PM
[/quote]But it's almost like some right-wing fundamentalist is working behind the scenes trying to smear Michael. It just seems that for Michael Jackson being a huge household-word/name someone HAS  TO  BE CHOOSING and selecting words/phrases to drop into people's minds. I'm kinda mixed with this thing... :shock:[/quote]

I don't think right-wing fundamentalists are trying to smear Michael.  The other words and phrases that come up are indeed interesting.  Some negative, some positive.  I choose to focus on the positive, so that's what I will always bring forth.  The numbers are the same and the coincidence is still there.  But, yes, some of those matches are nasty, yucky stuff!  Thanks for the reply....always great to hear viewpoints and thoughts!!!!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on June 09, 2010, 03:34:35 PM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
I don't think right-wing fundamentalists are trying to smear Michael.  The other words and phrases that come up are indeed interesting.  Some negative, some positive.  I choose to focus on the positive, so that's what I will always bring forth.  The numbers are the same and the coincidence is still there.  But, yes, some of those matches are nasty, yucky stuff!  Thanks for the reply....always great to hear viewpoints and thoughts!!!!

Really though, as I previously posted the words coming up have the same numeric value and there are thousands of words that would. The calculator is just generating examples of other words and this does necessarily not mean that there is any real or substantial relationship between the words besides this numeric value.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on June 09, 2010, 06:15:16 PM
I think that just because this is 'not easy to understand' doesn't mean that Michael didn't use this. Maybe he knew that someone (like me and some others) would find this and use this 'routine' to get others thinking. Yes, some of the words maybe coincidental, but then again, it may not be. Michael is a smart person; I think that he would do anything to make us confused about this hoax.

"It takes a lot of nothing to prove something, and it takes a lot of something to prove something else."
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: suspicious mind on June 09, 2010, 08:04:50 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "wishingstar"
I don't think right-wing fundamentalists are trying to smear Michael.  The other words and phrases that come up are indeed interesting.  Some negative, some positive.  I choose to focus on the positive, so that's what I will always bring forth.  The numbers are the same and the coincidence is still there.  But, yes, some of those matches are nasty, yucky stuff!  Thanks for the reply....always great to hear viewpoints and thoughts!!!!

Really though, as I previously posted the words coming up have the same numeric value and there are thousands of words that would. The calculator is just generating examples of other words and this does necessarily not mean that there is any real or substantial relationship between the words besides this numeric value.

 :oops: any of you girls old enought to remember the thing where you take your name and the one of the guy you like and mark out how many letters are alike and it detemines if you're gonna marry them and stuff? reminds me of that :D
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on June 09, 2010, 08:16:44 PM
Quote from: "reasonables+luvs+MJ"
I think that just because this is 'not easy to understand' doesn't mean that Michael didn't use this. Maybe he knew that someone (like me and some others) would find this and use this 'routine' to get others thinking. Yes, some of the words maybe coincidental, but then again, it may not be. Michael is a smart person; I think that he would do anything to make us confused about this hoax.

"It takes a lot of nothing to prove something, and it takes a lot of something to prove something else."

I understand it perfectly.
Gematria is a system of assigning numerical value to a word or phrase, in the belief that words or phrases with identical numerical values bear some relation to each other, or bear some relation to the number itself as it may apply to a person's age, the calendar year, or the like. Although ostensibly derived from Greek, it is largely used in Jewish texts, notably in those associated with the Kabbalah. Though gematria is most often used to calculate the values of individual words, psukim (Biblical verses), Talmudical  aphorisms, sentences from the standard Jewish prayers, personal, angelic and Godly names, and other religiously significant material, Kabbalists use them often for arbitrary phrases and, occasionally, for various languages.

There are several methods used to calculate the numerical value for the individual words, phrases or whole sentences. More advanced methods are usually used for the most significant Biblical verses, prayers, names of God and angels etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on June 09, 2010, 08:58:40 PM
ok well for fun I put my whole name in and some interesting things come up:
glove
is it scary
world war three
genetic engineering
pearl harbor attack
human salvation
believe in nothing
benevolent light
he who has wisdom

Just my first name
adam repented
blood saccrifice
i am the dragon
repent
genesis 2:24
the gods
leuviah (an angel) http://www.ucm.ca/en/angels/19-leuviah.html
baby be mine
childhood

Just my last name
the fifth element
gods anointing
numbers
calculation
planet x
pinocchio
pentagon
leviathan
duality (hmm I been going on about that for weeks...lol)
yellow
paul is dead
jacksons
unbreakable

my screen name
the stimulus package
covenant
isley brothers
consciousness
harmonic resonance
ignorance is bliss
seventy seven
ancient archeology
in god we trust
holy trinity
world cup soccer
transcending time
we band of brothers
it looks like a scam
god of this world
obama master of deceit
not of the world
the great spirit
truman doctrine
the gospel of john
horror movies (my favourite movies...lol)
intuitive logic
eye of your mind
poet of alpha and omega
sarah palin is evil
satanic worship
she drives me wild
man in the mirror
another part of me

very weird  :lol:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: suspicious mind on June 09, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
wow this thing has one heck of a memory :shock:  :lol:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: rag doll on June 10, 2010, 01:06:19 AM
Wow, I tried the same just for fun with my full name:

Jewish Gematria Equals: 1976
English Gematria Equals: 600
Simple Gematria Equals: 100

Results : Hugh Hefner!  :lol:, Take a back seat, Maria Magdalena, Nihilist,Variety, Alienation, Diana Ross! :lol:

With my screen-name:
Jewish Gematria Equals: 182    
English Gematria Equals: 414
Simple Gematria Equals: 69

Results: Dragon, Lightbeam, Archangel, www , Leather, Rough, Shake a leg...
I swear by god, I had no idea!  :P
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 10, 2010, 01:30:56 AM
believe = Tell The Truth, Obama Damage Right Eye (?  :lol: ), Janet, Obama Secret Muslim, Happen, Kings

circus = True, Joseph, Egypt, Living, Sacrifice, Eighteen, Dead As A Dodo ( :shock: ), Jackson 5 ( :o ), Sony
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on June 10, 2010, 01:38:57 AM
Quote from: "rag doll"
Wow, I tried the same just for fun with my full name:

Jewish Gematria Equals: 1976
English Gematria Equals: 600
Simple Gematria Equals: 100

Results : Hugh Hefner!  :lol:, Take a back seat, Maria Magdalena, Nihilist,Variety, Alienation, Diana Ross! :lol:

With my screen-name:
Jewish Gematria Equals: 182    
English Gematria Equals: 414
Simple Gematria Equals: 69

Results: Dragon, Lightbeam, Archangel, www , Leather, Rough, Shake a leg...
I swear by god, I had no idea!  :P
Ok Ms. Ross what can you tell us about all of this hmmm?
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on June 10, 2010, 01:39:46 AM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
believe = Tell The Truth, Obama Damage Right Eye (?  :lol: ), Janet, Obama Secret Muslim, Happen, Kings

circus = True, Joseph, Egypt, Living, Sacrifice, Eighteen, Dead As A Dodo ( :shock: ), Jackson 5 ( :o ), Sony

Did Michael  create this site??? :o
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 10, 2010, 01:42:04 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
believe = Tell The Truth, Obama Damage Right Eye (?  :lol: ), Janet, Obama Secret Muslim, Happen, Kings

circus = True, Joseph, Egypt, Living, Sacrifice, Eighteen, Dead As A Dodo ( :shock: ), Jackson 5 ( :o ), Sony

Did Michael  create this site??? :o

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: No, but still weird numeric coincidences
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: rag doll on June 10, 2010, 01:47:58 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "rag doll"
Wow, I tried the same just for fun with my full name:

Jewish Gematria Equals: 1976
English Gematria Equals: 600
Simple Gematria Equals: 100

Results : Hugh Hefner!  :lol:, Take a back seat, Maria Magdalena, Nihilist,Variety, Alienation, Diana Ross! :lol:

With my screen-name:
Jewish Gematria Equals: 182    
English Gematria Equals: 414
Simple Gematria Equals: 69

Results: Dragon, Lightbeam, Archangel, www , Leather, Rough, Shake a leg...
I swear by god, I had no idea!  :P
Ok Ms. Ross what can you tell us about all of this hmmm?

I´d love to tell you more, but my inner Mr. Hefner forces me to stay silent!   :P  :lol:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 10, 2010, 01:49:42 AM
Quote from: "rag doll"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "rag doll"
Wow, I tried the same just for fun with my full name:

Jewish Gematria Equals: 1976
English Gematria Equals: 600
Simple Gematria Equals: 100

Results : Hugh Hefner!  :lol:, Take a back seat, Maria Magdalena, Nihilist,Variety, Alienation, Diana Ross! :lol:

With my screen-name:
Jewish Gematria Equals: 182    
English Gematria Equals: 414
Simple Gematria Equals: 69

Results: Dragon, Lightbeam, Archangel, www , Leather, Rough, Shake a leg...
I swear by god, I had no idea!  :P
Ok Ms. Ross what can you tell us about all of this hmmm?

I´d love to tell you more, but my inner Mr. Hefner forces me to stay silent!   :P  :lol:

TROLL  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MJonmind on June 10, 2010, 01:56:34 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
believe = Tell The Truth, Obama Damage Right Eye (?  :lol: ), Janet, Obama Secret Muslim, Happen, Kings

circus = True, Joseph, Egypt, Living, Sacrifice, Eighteen, Dead As A Dodo ( :shock: ), Jackson 5 ( :o ), Sony

Did Michael  create this site??? :o

If he didn't create it, I'm feeling 99.9% positive, he hijacked it. :o  ;)  :lol:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Army of L-O-V-E on June 10, 2010, 05:43:45 AM
I try with this site
http://www.gematrix.org

I put the number 777 cameout with this
(http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/2010/6/10/photo/061010030646xt89ogv3fcw6mqs.jpg)


50
(http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/2010/6/10/photo/061010030646vl1jzd1k5h.jpg)

7
(http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/2010/6/10/photo/06101003064600iuikf.jpg)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 10, 2010, 08:24:39 AM
brian oxman = Final Curtain Call :shock: , The Antichrist, Wicked Will, Image Of Satan, Stubborn, Stubborn, Corrupt, A Osama Bin Laden

Final Curtain Call = brian oxman, Six Six Six, July Fourth, Let There Be Light, Thats All Folks, The Seventh Day, The Number Of A Man, 2011 Ford Explorer
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 10, 2010, 08:35:56 AM
Michael Jackson Is Alive = December Twenty Ten, Go Forth And Conquer, The Last Man Standing, Last But Not Least, To Thyself Be True, Knowledge Is Power, Overcome The World, The Wrong Theory

Michael Jackson Is Not Dead = Somewhere, Van Surfing, I Am So Happy And Grateful

Neverland Ranch = Gods Saver, Walk Free, Jackson Family, False Knowledge, Absolute Faith, Forever After, For Ever And A Day, Vision Of Peace, Ancient Egypt, Mickey Mouse

Jackson family = September Eleventh, Represents, Mickey Mouse, Agree To Disagree, Vision Of Peace, An Eye For An Eye, Neverland Ranch
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on June 10, 2010, 02:34:40 PM
This site has me very weirded out seriously. The way it works is you can add words to it. So whoever created the site made a database. Now every time a word gets looked up on here, it can be added to the database. Then when you look up another word the added words and the those in the original database that have the same numerical value will show up.

So why are so many things related to Michael and the theories of this hoax in this database in the first place?

Another thing I find extremely odd is a couple things that came up when I put my name in because they really do seem to be related to me in regards to this hoax and things I have been interested in. Especially the following:

Ancient Archeology - My Egyptian research for those videos.

Duality - I have been going on for weeks about how I believe there is no double but it's actually duality and I even made a video about that.

There is more but those two just really have me speechless.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 10, 2010, 03:34:27 PM
The more I look around at the sight, the more weird it gets.  It does seem to be loaded with things related to Michael.  I think it was/is being used by someone.  Either to just mess with us, or something more.  However, it still comes down to the absolute fact/coincidence of numbers and words matching (weird!).  I have looked at other sites.  This is the only active one that brings up pre-loaded words, that I can find.  I wish you guys could have seen that first site I talked about.  It was unbelievable the words and phrases that would come up:
Adventure = 110 = "look-for-me" and "wait-for-me".  Like Michael told everyone in TII, "....it's all a great adventure, nothing to be afraid of.........."

One more thing, I just thought of.  The other night I was playing around on this current site.  I kid you not.....there was an advertisement for a "Michael Jackson Bobble-Head Doll".  I clicked on that ad.  It was from a company named "Triumph International" owned by a guy named Al Malnik ..... anybody know of this guy?  I haven't seen the ad since.  
Thanks for being as curious as me  ;) You guys are AWESOME!
Blessings!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on June 10, 2010, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
The more I look around at the sight, the more weird it gets.  It does seem to be loaded with things related to Michael.  I think it was/is being used by someone.  Either to just mess with us, or something more.  However, it still comes down to the absolute fact/coincidence of numbers and words matching (weird!).  I have looked at other sites.  This is the only active one that brings up pre-loaded words, that I can find.  I wish you guys could have seen that first site I talked about.  It was unbelievable the words and phrases that would come up:
Adventure = 110 = "look-for-me" and "wait-for-me".  Like Michael told everyone in TII, "....it's all a great adventure, nothing to be afraid of.........."

One more thing, I just thought of.  The other night I was playing around on this current site.  I kid you not.....there was an advertisement for a "Michael Jackson Bobble-Head Doll".  I clicked on that ad.  It was from a company named "Triumph International" owned by a guy named Al Malnik ..... anybody know of this guy?  I haven't seen the ad since.  
Thanks for being as curious as me  ;) You guys are AWESOME!
Blessings!
Al Malnik is a reputed mobster who lives in Florida and is connected to Michael. His wife uploaded some pictures of Michael and his kids to her facebook page after June 25th. these were reportedly stolen and later sold to TMZ. There was quite a controversy about this early on in the hoax.

Malnick with Blanket

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/malnikblanket2-300x300.jpg)

Malnik with Michael

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/mj_01.jpg)

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/almalnik.jpg)

Costume party with Malnik & Michael

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/2.jpg)

Malnik, his wife with Michael & the kids

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/1d96bd18c168021965e3e8a5ca09c66d4a6.jpg)

One of the pictures reportedly sold to TMZ

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/blanket-michael-prince-michael-and-.jpg)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 10, 2010, 04:16:09 PM
You thought you've seen it all? Well not really, have a look:

King Of Pop = Death Is False, Dom Sheldon -(keep this in mind!)-, Deaths Door, This Site, Child Sacrifice, Finagles Law -(known as Murphy's Law)-, Wouldn't, Necessary, Swine Flu, Quietly, Convenience          --> This is not a joke I didn't make this up!

London O2 Arena = Crush, Heart Broken, Rise And Shine, I Am Unafraid, Pastor, Earth Song, Brotherhood, Seven Of Nine, Null And Void, Smart Casual, Life Is All False, Deaths Is False, Takin Me Higher  (give in to me?  :lol: ), Rockin Robin

Coroner = Shelter (in the coroner's van?), A No Brainer, Elizabeth, Captured, California, Agreement, Ghosts

Jackson House = Transport, Reincarnation, Hit The Target, End Of Story, Well Call You, Straight As A Die

California Medical Board = Source, Consciousness, Seventy Seven, Ancient Archeology, Lend Me Your Ears, World Cup Soccer, Transcending Time, We Band Of Brothers, It Looks Like A Scam (creepy), Man In The Mirror, She Drives Me Wild, Another Part Of Me


I searched for info about Dom Sheldon, and the first thing that pop'd up was: D.S (song) -Wikipedia-

"D.S." is an album track by Michael Jackson from his 1995 double disc record HIStory. It is track six on the second disc, one of the three songs from that disc whose lyrics are printed in the album booklet, and is four minutes and forty-nine seconds in length. The song is often cited as a derogatory reference to Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon, whose name is similar to the subject of the song, Dom Sheldon. When Jackson was accused of child sexual abuse in 1993, the investigation was controlled by Sneddon, who also ordered that Jackson be strip searched. The criminal investigation was subsequently closed due to lack of evidence and Jackson was not charged with a crime. Jackson was angered by the allegations, his perception of being mistreated by the police and media, and the negative effect on his health.
Shortly afterwards, he began work on HIStory. The track "D.S." is written, composed and produced by Jackson and includes a guitar solo by Slash. It is a rock song that conveys themes such as bitterness, isolation and paranoia much like the rest of the album. There was no major critical analysis of the song from mainstream reviews when HIStory was issued, but the song's connection to Tom Sneddon was widely reported in the media. Jackson was subsequently involved in projects that made coded references to Sneddon and the 1993 investigation.
Jackson was the subject of another child sexual abuse allegation in 2003, with the investigation and 2005 trial prosecution again led by Sneddon. These repeated investigations and derogatory comments made against Jackson have led to allegations that Sneddon had, or appeared to have, a "vendetta" against the singer. Fans of the entertainer sang "D.S." outside the court house of Jackson's 2005 trial every day.


LYRICS:    ---> GET READY!!! This is so damn CREEPY!! WOW


They wanna get my ass
Dead or alive
You know he really tried to take me
Down by surprise
I bet he missioned with the CIA
He don't do half what he say

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

He out shock in every single way
He'll stop at nothing just to get his political say
He think he hot cause he's BSTA
I bet he never had a social life anyway

You think he brother with the KKK?
I bet his mother never taught him
right anyway
He want your vote just to remain TA.
He don't do half what he say

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Donas Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Does he send letters to the FBI?
Did he say to either do it or die?

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Donas Standdon is a cold man

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Donas Standdon is a cold man


[youtube:2pakg4bu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-lYy0QZfE[/youtube:2pakg4bu]


Finagles Law -(known as Murphy's Law)-

It is found that anything that can go wrong at sea generally does go wrong sooner or later, so it is not to be wondered that owners prefer the safe to the scientific.... Sufficient stress can hardly be laid on the advantages of simplicity. The human factor cannot be safely neglected in planning machinery. If attention is to be obtained, the engine must be such that the engineer will be disposed to attend to it.
American Dialect Society member Bill Mullins has found a slightly broader version of the aphorism in reference to stage magic. The British stage magician Nevil Maskelyne wrote in 1908:
It is an experience common to all men to find that, on any special occasion, such as the production of a magical effect for the first time in public, everything that can go wrong will go wrong. Whether we must attribute this to the malignity of matter or to the total depravity of inanimate things, whether the exciting cause is hurry, worry, or what not, the fact remains.
Murphy's law emerged in its most modern form no later than 1952, as an epigraph to a mountaineering book by Jack Sack, who described it as an "ancient mountaineering adage":
Anything that can possibly go wrong, does.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 10, 2010, 05:19:04 PM
Well gang, I think we have another mystery on our hands  (sorry, also a Scooby-Doo fan)

Serenitys_Dream:
Why on Earth would Al Melnik's company advertise a Michael Jackson Bobble-Head doll on a genatria website loaded with words related to MJ and this hoax?   Is it me......or does Michael not look real happy in any of those pics with Al?  His eyes are showing tremendous sadness to me....breaks my heart.  Thanks for the post and pics......his name sounded familiar.  You're awesome!  

Hazzely:
You Go!!!!  WOW! Great finds with this.  It's just weird! I had spelled out O2 like this
otwo = 73 = Jackson   Thank you also for the post....just awesome!

All I can say is thank you guys!  I am not crazy!!!
Michael, Michael, Michael.......when this is over.....can we sit down to a Coke and a Smile? :lol:    (Coke's tag-line has been "The Real Thing" it equals 127 guess what Moonwalker is?)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: rag doll on June 11, 2010, 12:32:38 AM
http://www.michaeljacksonbobblehead.com/ (http://www.michaeljacksonbobblehead.com/) :P

Entity Name: TRIUMPH INTERNATIONAL, INC.
Entity Number: C1301282
Date Filed: 03/09/1984
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: ZIFFREN BRITTENHAM LLP, C/O JOHN BRANCA, 1801 CENTURY PARK WEST
Entity City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90067-6406
Agent for Service of Process: VINCENT CHIEFFO
Agent Address: C/O GREENBERG TRAURIG, 2450 COLORADO AVE., SUITE 400E
Agent City, State, Zip: PASADENA CA 90404

http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx (http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx)

Hmmm, could MJ himself be behind it?.....
I don´t know. But the bobble-head nods...   ;)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MJonmind on June 11, 2010, 02:08:01 AM
But bobble-heads only nod when they're pushed. That gematrix site and ad is suspicious, and needs more research for sure. I especially don't like the very sad look on his face when Al and his friends have their hands pressing down on his shoulders (control?). It said on one site the pics were taken in 2003, which is the year of the second allegations, definately something that would weigh heavily on his mind.  It also said they got together often, so maybe Michael really could be himself and trust him with what was on his heart. I found a pic that looks like MJ relaxing with him.[attachment=0:2v87dofe]0f776f242948354331705d05def692e04a6469ebc4450[1].jpg[/attachment:2v87dofe]
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: rag doll on June 11, 2010, 04:20:22 AM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
But bobble-heads only nod when they're pushed.
They may get their stimulus from the surrounding, but they also react independent on the slightest scarcely perceptible vibrations. Actually that´s the funny thing about them- you don´t need to push them hard.. ;)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: ConfusedLOVE on June 11, 2010, 11:19:05 AM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
You thought you've seen it all? Well not really, have a look:

King Of Pop = Death Is False, Dom Sheldon -(keep this in mind!)-, Deaths Door, This Site, Child Sacrifice, Finagles Law -(known as Murphy's Law)-, Wouldn't, Necessary, Swine Flu, Quietly, Convenience          --> This is not a joke I didn't make this up!

London O2 Arena = Crush, Heart Broken, Rise And Shine, I Am Unafraid, Pastor, Earth Song, Brotherhood, Seven Of Nine, Null And Void, Smart Casual, Life Is All False, Deaths Is False, Takin Me Higher  (give in to me?  :lol: ), Rockin Robin

Coroner = Shelter (in the coroner's van?), A No Brainer, Elizabeth, Captured, California, Agreement, Ghosts

Jackson House = Transport, Reincarnation, Hit The Target, End Of Story, Well Call You, Straight As A Die

California Medical Board = Source, Consciousness, Seventy Seven, Ancient Archeology, Lend Me Your Ears, World Cup Soccer, Transcending Time, We Band Of Brothers, It Looks Like A Scam (creepy), Man In The Mirror, She Drives Me Wild, Another Part Of Me


I searched for info about Dom Sheldon, and the first thing that pop'd up was: D.S (song) -Wikipedia-

"D.S." is an album track by Michael Jackson from his 1995 double disc record HIStory. It is track six on the second disc, one of the three songs from that disc whose lyrics are printed in the album booklet, and is four minutes and forty-nine seconds in length. The song is often cited as a derogatory reference to Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon, whose name is similar to the subject of the song, Dom Sheldon. When Jackson was accused of child sexual abuse in 1993, the investigation was controlled by Sneddon, who also ordered that Jackson be strip searched. The criminal investigation was subsequently closed due to lack of evidence and Jackson was not charged with a crime. Jackson was angered by the allegations, his perception of being mistreated by the police and media, and the negative effect on his health.
Shortly afterwards, he began work on HIStory. The track "D.S." is written, composed and produced by Jackson and includes a guitar solo by Slash. It is a rock song that conveys themes such as bitterness, isolation and paranoia much like the rest of the album. There was no major critical analysis of the song from mainstream reviews when HIStory was issued, but the song's connection to Tom Sneddon was widely reported in the media. Jackson was subsequently involved in projects that made coded references to Sneddon and the 1993 investigation.
Jackson was the subject of another child sexual abuse allegation in 2003, with the investigation and 2005 trial prosecution again led by Sneddon. These repeated investigations and derogatory comments made against Jackson have led to allegations that Sneddon had, or appeared to have, a "vendetta" against the singer. Fans of the entertainer sang "D.S." outside the court house of Jackson's 2005 trial every day.


LYRICS:    ---> GET READY!!! This is so damn CREEPY!! WOW


They wanna get my ass
Dead or alive
You know he really tried to take me
Down by surprise
I bet he missioned with the CIA
He don't do half what he say

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

He out shock in every single way
He'll stop at nothing just to get his political say
He think he hot cause he's BSTA
I bet he never had a social life anyway

You think he brother with the KKK?
I bet his mother never taught him
right anyway
He want your vote just to remain TA.
He don't do half what he say

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Donas Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Does he send letters to the FBI?
Did he say to either do it or die?

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Donas Standdon is a cold man

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Donas Standdon is a cold man


[youtube:374yu0sn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-lYy0QZfE[/youtube:374yu0sn]


Finagles Law -(known as Murphy's Law)-

It is found that anything that can go wrong at sea generally does go wrong sooner or later, so it is not to be wondered that owners prefer the safe to the scientific.... Sufficient stress can hardly be laid on the advantages of simplicity. The human factor cannot be safely neglected in planning machinery. If attention is to be obtained, the engine must be such that the engineer will be disposed to attend to it.
American Dialect Society member Bill Mullins has found a slightly broader version of the aphorism in reference to stage magic. The British stage magician Nevil Maskelyne wrote in 1908:
It is an experience common to all men to find that, on any special occasion, such as the production of a magical effect for the first time in public, everything that can go wrong will go wrong. Whether we must attribute this to the malignity of matter or to the total depravity of inanimate things, whether the exciting cause is hurry, worry, or what not, the fact remains.
Murphy's law emerged in its most modern form no later than 1952, as an epigraph to a mountaineering book by Jack Sack, who described it as an "ancient mountaineering adage":
Anything that can possibly go wrong, does.
D.S. was originally titled T.S.  It can be found in Michaels hand written lyrics.  i find this interesting :?  But most of you probably already know this.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: samsuperb on June 11, 2010, 11:21:21 AM
The reason why he used D.S is because he didnt want to get sue., D.S doesnt have nothing to do wiith the hoax :roll:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: ConfusedLOVE on June 11, 2010, 11:25:12 AM
Quote from: "samsuperb"
The reason why he used D.S is because he didnt want to get sue., D.S doesnt have nothing to do wiith the hoax :roll:
Sorry :!:  Done with this :!:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: samsuperb on June 11, 2010, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: "ConfusedLOVE"
Quote from: "samsuperb"
The reason why he used D.S is because he didnt want to get sue., D.S doesnt have nothing to do wiith the hoax :roll:
Sorry :!:  Done with this :!:
what do u mean?
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 11, 2010, 12:04:51 PM
Quote from: "rag doll"
http://www.michaeljacksonbobblehead.com/ :P

Entity Name: TRIUMPH INTERNATIONAL, INC.
Entity Number: C1301282
Date Filed: 03/09/1984
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: ZIFFREN BRITTENHAM LLP, C/O JOHN BRANCA, 1801 CENTURY PARK WEST
Entity City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90067-6406
Agent for Service of Process: VINCENT CHIEFFO
Agent Address: C/O GREENBERG TRAURIG, 2450 COLORADO AVE., SUITE 400E
Agent City, State, Zip: PASADENA CA 90404

http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx (http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx)

Hmmm, could MJ himself be behind it?.....
I don´t know. But the bobble-head nods...   ;)

 :shock: Wonder why I found Al Malnik?  I just searched and found it right away.  The date here is from 1984.....did Al come along after that?  Hey maybe if we add the date to the address to the....JUST KIDDING!!!  :lol:

Interesting enough........the word bobble-head yes, gematria:
56= bobble-head = Isis, Will (or maybe will?), the end, friend, April 14, 2010, April 4, 2010, April 20, 2010, this, Kenya  
Thought Serenity_Dreams might like the Isis connection  ;)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on June 11, 2010, 12:06:03 PM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Quote from: "rag doll"
http://www.michaeljacksonbobblehead.com/ :P

Entity Name: TRIUMPH INTERNATIONAL, INC.
Entity Number: C1301282
Date Filed: 03/09/1984
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: ZIFFREN BRITTENHAM LLP, C/O JOHN BRANCA, 1801 CENTURY PARK WEST
Entity City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90067-6406
Agent for Service of Process: VINCENT CHIEFFO
Agent Address: C/O GREENBERG TRAURIG, 2450 COLORADO AVE., SUITE 400E
Agent City, State, Zip: PASADENA CA 90404

http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx (http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx)

Hmmm, could MJ himself be behind it?.....
You thought right! All I can say is freaken WOW  :lol:
I don´t know. But the bobble-head nods...   ;)

 :shock: Wonder why I found Al Malnik?  I just searched and found it right away.  The date here is from 1984.....did Al come along after that?  Hey maybe if we add the date to the address to the....JUST KIDDING!!!  :lol:

Interesting enough........the word bobble-head yes, gematria:
56= bobble-head = Isis, Will (or maybe will?), the end, friend, April 14, 2010, April 4, 2010, April 20, 2010, this, Kenya  
Thought Serenity_Dreams might like the Isis connection  ;)
You thought right! All I can say is freaken WOW!! :o  :lol:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 11, 2010, 12:16:21 PM
"D.S. was originally titled T.S.  It can be found in Michaels hand written lyrics.  i find this interesting :?  But most of you probably already know this."

Wow, ConfusedLOVE, I did not know that!  I think that's very interesting! Thanks!
Blessings!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: ConfusedLOVE on June 11, 2010, 12:30:46 PM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
"D.S. was originally titled T.S.  It can be found in Michaels hand written lyrics.  i find this interesting :?  But most of you probably already know this."

Wow, ConfusedLOVE, I did not know that!  I think that's very interesting! Thanks!
Blessings!

Thank You, it is very nice not to have someone rolling their eyes :roll: at me.  I appreciate your comment.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: CC on June 26, 2010, 03:30:15 PM
SOULE SHAUN=LUNAR ECLIPSE=KENNY ORTEGA=BEST BELIEVE IT=RANDY JACKSON=YOU WILL DIE ( :cry: )=WORST LIAR=I HAVE FREE WILL
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on June 26, 2010, 03:45:42 PM
Hawaii - Michael - Mars - Gary - pot (lol) - Batman - find me!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 29, 2010, 03:31:52 PM
Gotta love this thread ..
The end is fascinating...

1.- Jermaine Jackson = The Die Has Been Cast     [/list]

Jermaine in English Gematria Equals: 450    (4+5=9)

[list type=2]2.- Jermaine = The Truth Is Hidden[/list]

Janet Jackson in English Gematria Equals: 738  (7+3+8=18 ; 18:2=9)

[list type=3]3.- Janet Jackson = Is It Scary[/list]

Prince Jackson in English Gematria Equals: 828  (8+2+8= 18;  18:2=9)

[list type=4]4.- Prince Jackson = Believe Also In Me[/list]

Cardiac Arrest in English Gematria Equals: 720 (7+2=9)

[list type=5]Cardiac Arrest = First Born, Picture, Small Sacrifices, Illuminati, Archangel Michael, I Bear A Charmed Life, Lucid Dreaming, Planet Earth, Zeitgeist, Occult Logic, Needs Must, Thumbs Up, No Emotion, As Easy As Pie (lol), Masonic Logic, The Truth[/list]

Heart Attack in English Gematria Equals: 648   (6+4+8=18 ; 18:2= 9)

[list type=6]Heart Attack = Iluminati, Off The Wall, Drive Away, In The Earth   [/list]

This is the best part

Michael Jackson Fake Death in English Gematria Equals: 1110     (1+1+1= 3)

[list type=7]Michael Jackson Fake Death = Revelation, Wait, Better Than The Competition, True Blood Season 3 Episode 1 (LOL), Satan And Hell Are Defeated, Beginning Of Wisdom, Repent And Be Born Again, He Died On Behalf Of Mankind, We Can Annihilate Them, 2010 Mtv Movie Awards, Lunar Eclipse June 2010, It Was All A Pipe Dream[/list]

Michael Jackson Not Dead in English Gematria Equals: 1122  (1+1+2+2= 6 ; 6:2= 3)

[list type=8]Michael Jackson Not Dead = Lisa Marie Presley, Keep Your Chin Up, No More Worries[/list]

Michael Jackson Alive in English Gematria Equals: 1038  (1+3+8=12 ; 12:4= 3)

[list type=9]Michael Jackson Alive = Seven Times Nine, Its All For You, Yellow Brick Road[/list]

Jackson Brothers in English Gematria Equals: 1068  (1+6+8= 15; 15:5= 3)

[list type=10]Jackson Brothers = Ark Of The Covenant[/list]

Liberian Girl in English Gematria Equals: 696  (6+9+6= 21; 21:7= 3 or the other way around 21:3= 7)

[list type=11]Liberian Girl = Nine Nine Nine, Morphine, Arrangement, Thursday (25th of june was on a Thursday), Bedroom Set, Say My Name  (And I'll be there  :lol: ... )[/list]

June 25th in English Gematria Equals: 468  (4+6+8= 18; 18:2= 9)

[list type=12]June 25th = Genesis, Repent, Travel, Decision, Baby Be mine, Genesis 2 24[/list]

Genesis 2:24

Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and clings to his wife, and they become one flesh. (Genesis 2:24, NRSV).

"Therefore..,"
takes us back to what had just happened in this context. God saw it was not good for man to be alone, so He made a suitable helper. The record says that: "...the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man." On this occasion Adam said, "This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman because she was taken out of Man." When these creation events took place, God said: "THEREFORE," or "for this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh." [NEW TESTAMENT REFERENCES: Matt. 19: 5 & Eph. 5:31].

"...A man..."
The statement in Genesis 2:24 was meant for every human being. Adam had no father and mother; thus it is implied, this is meant for all in the human race; everybody with a father and mother. God was setting up an institution for the human race.

"...Leave his father and his mother..."
It is noteworthy, there is a "cleaving" in this statement, but before the "cleaving," there is "leaving." This is about leaving your family of origin and making your own family. As vital and permanent as the child-parent relationship is, a proper husband-wife relationship warrants leaving the earlier relationship.

"...And shall cleave unto his wife..."
This is about marriage as God intends it, and this involves leaving and cleaving. Sometimes the English word "cleave" means to divide or split (a butcher uses a cleaver to cut meat). But in Genesis 2:24, the opposite is meant: to adhere, to stick, to be attached by strong tie. It is a verb, and it involves determined action to stay with somebody, out of deep love and commitment; It is not just emotional; it is not passive; it is the attitude and activity of staying close to someone. It is adherence rooted in a shared will or intent. The same word is used in Deut. 10:20 (NASB) and other passages in that context, to signify wholehearted commitment (Deut. 11:22; 13:4; 30:20). Marriage requires maintenance!

"...One flesh..."
To be one flesh is the result of leaving and cleaving; and this is much more than just a physical union. This is about giving and receiving; joining and responding. This is emotional; this is intellectual; this is about love and care and attention. And - only as we leave and cleave and develop closeness in all these other ways - can there be the kind of physical union that's right, ideal and nourishing. This union should last as long as we live. The Bible teaches one man and one woman for life with only one exception (Matt. 19:9).

When marriage is dealt with in Matthew 19 by Jesus, and Ephesians 5 by Paul, both refer back to God's institution of this union at creation. Here is something that has never changed: The law that binds a man and woman together in this relationship is the law of God, expressed in the statement: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."


Autopsy Report in English Gematria Equals: 1254  (1+2+5+4= 12; 12:4= 3)

[list type=13]Autopsy Report = What You Got To Do, It Will Never Happen, The First And The Last, Tell Me Im Not Dreaming, Publish Your Book (Katherine's better  :lol: ), Word Equals A Number  (7? 9? 3?), About Two Billions (very true..I think Sony&AEG know this better than us)[/list]

Is Michael Jackson Really Dead? in English Gematria Equals: 1434   (1+4+3+4= 12;  12:4= 3)

[list type=14]Is Michael Jackson Really Dead? = Better Safe Than Sorry, Mind Control Technique, He Who Is The All Seeing Eye[/list]

Memorial Staples Center in English Gematria Equals: 1458  (1+4+5+8= 18;  18:2= 9)

[list type=15]Memorial Staples Center = Make Him An Offer He Cant Refuse, Elvis, Not Tonight Josephine (LOL!!), Suspension Of Disbelief, Nineth Reason To Get Free, If You Knew What I Knew[/list]

Hold you breath..and take a sit!

Forest Lawn Crypt in English Gematria Equals: 1290   (1+2+9= 12;  12:4= 3)

Again..I insist..please take a sit I don't want you to faint right there

[list type=16]Forest Lawn Crypt = Michael Jackson Is Not Dead (Er....O.O), Elivs Aron Presley [/list]
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: ClassOf2013 on June 29, 2010, 03:59:10 PM
:o  :D  :shock:  omg so cool!! Thanks 4 posting
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 29, 2010, 05:44:01 PM
Now that I have regained myself......'
who is behind this???????  Obviously someone is messing with us........
Michael, if it's you, you owe me a Coke (or beverage of your choice ;) )

Great posting Hazzely!  It's too weird...... how many coincidences are there?  It takes the reasoning of "coincidence" away.  
There are ones I posted in threads about the stripper and about the letter from Paris...if you guys are interested.  

Thanks again for digging this stuff like I do!  
You're all awesome!

Blessings!  

LOL!!!
106 = blessings = The Jackson 5, Best Believe, Soul Mate
1+6= 7
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Its her on June 30, 2010, 05:34:56 AM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Thanks for the responses......makes me feel better to know I am not the only one who finds these coincidences odd.  Foxello- in no way do I think Michael wrote songs, planned his life around all these.....that's too much, you are right!   However, there are some really weird ones.....let's look at the number 71:  Michael climbed out of a huge spider in TII; why a spider...sure it's creepy, it's Thriller etc. but, spider happens to also equal 71.  71 was on the ambulance.  There has been talk of someone else died instead, don't know who exactly....that's a John Doe to us correct?  Three guesses what "John Doe" equals?  71  

The new site gives me some of the same words.  It always adds up the correct number.  That first sight gave some interesting phrases:  I typed in, "Eyes Have it"  (from a TMZ article)
I got the phrase, "happy-ending"....just odd.  Man In The Mirror = your-destiny came from the first site I had.  The new site also lists the phrases "Seventy Seven" and "In God We Trust" as a match for Man In The Mirror (all with 175 number)  

Awesome catch on the Elvis movie!  Of all people to want sunflowers for Michael...LMP?  
Also, if sunflowers were really his favorite flower....why don't we see them at the memorial or burial?  One would think a favorite flower would be present there??????  

Rabbit....good word!  let's take a look:
52= rabbit= Earth, Nwo, devil, kept, pride, heart  (another odd one!)  

As far as knowing what words.....I just started with the obvious; Michael, Jackson, etc. then started thinking of all the words/phrases we have seen.  Just now,  I just thought of trying Conrad Murray ......  

151= Conrad Murray= Once Upon a Time

also equals Jesus Christ (that's out there.....but a really funny coincidence, ha?)

Anyways, you can see why I was nervous to post all this.  I know it's out there.....crazy, wild stuff!  Glad I did though.....thanks guys!  I am going to post about the garbage and plates later.... Have an awesome day!  Blessings!

There are NO such things as coincidences!!!!! :D :D :D

viewtopic.php?f=74&t=7872&sid=8e57d97738e9c9a8329f0baa83786c1e#p194103 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=7872&sid=8e57d97738e9c9a8329f0baa83786c1e#p194103)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Its her on June 30, 2010, 06:18:24 PM
Quote from: "Its her"
Quote from: "wishingstar"
151= Conrad Murray= Once Upon a Time

also equals Jesus Christ

(that's out there.....but a really funny coincidence, ha?)


Anyways, you can see why I was nervous to post all this.  I know it's out there.....crazy, wild stuff!  Glad I did though.....thanks guys!  I am going to post about the garbage and plates later.... Have an awesome day!  Blessings!

There are NO such things as coincidences!!!!! :D :D :D

viewtopic.php?f=74&t=7872&sid=8e57d97738e9c9a8329f0baa83786c1e#p194103 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=7872&sid=8e57d97738e9c9a8329f0baa83786c1e#p194103)


Also, this:
51= find me = Michael (from the first post)


Hold onto your hair, kids :!:  This is not a coincidence either!  Is JESUS involved in the hoax??  Unlike MJ, He is EASY to find! Let's go to the horses mouth, God's Word.

This may sound BIZARRE, but it has always worked for me, so either it is working again, or I am losing it REALLY bad!  :?  :shock:

 I had a dream about MJ--only the 3rd one in my entire life, despite everyones' tips to watch his videos before bed, and I do play his music all day at work! "He" spoke to me! I know dreams point out things that we miss while awake--things we don't realize we are seeing...not that he actually showed up...(I know, I know: "Who CARES about YOUR stupid dream--you just ate too much pizza or something" :roll: Well, I'll just tell you what MJ told ME: "If you don't like it , don't LOOK!"

Very briefly, I was waiting in a sitting room in some hotel, watching a huge monorail outside the building window. Didn't know what I was waiting for, so I just sat there. A familiar voice said, "Just a minute--I'll be right out!" and directly, out came MJ wearing nothing but a bath towel holding it with one hand and rummaging in a case for a comb or something.

I'm sure my face lit up  :o  8-)  as I sort of laughed with speechless surprise! He must've thought I was laughing at him, because he said, distractedly,  "If you don't like it, don't look" and he went back to the bathroom! When he came back he was dry and dressed, except for his hair---a little "damp, behind the ears"  ;) (clue) God sometimes speaks to us in "figures of speech" in dreams... I tried to tell him I wasn't laughing at him---he SURPRISED me! But he just chuckled , as he tried hard to suppress a grin and said, "I LIKE to surprise ;)  people!" He knew why I was there, but I still didn't. He said, "Come on." And we left the suite.

SORRY :oops:  :oops:  I woke up  :(  Maybe my heart was racing or something  :lol:  :lol: .)

No matter, here is the good stuff (gooder ;)   :arrow:  I need to strip this Scripture, and, again, "If you don't like it, don't look"  ;)  But there is a clue here.

God is tattling on MJ!!! I know it! Check this out:

 LUKE chapter 24. Before the disciples of JC know He has come back to life, a few of them are walking home all sad, and a stranger asks if he may walk with them. Yeah, whatever.  They heard his tomb was empty, some of the women said so, but this was as NONSENSE to them. ;) They talked together (no internet, tho!) of all the things which had happened . And it came to pass, that WHILE they communed together ;)  (Come together over ME) JC Himself drew near and went with them. ;) (MJ is here) But their eyes were "holden" and they knew him not---or didn't REALIZE who they were seeing!  He said to them, "What manner of communications are these, that ye have, one to another, and ye are SO SAD, (you "Hoaxers"?)  ;)  

One of the guys says, "WHAT?  are you some alien? How can you not know WHO died ???   And how certain women (MO & Souza??) also of our company (MJHDI Forum) made us astonished, saying he is ALIVE??  And how we went to his tomb and saw him NO where!" Jesus says: "YOU GUYS !!!??"  (To Be continued...sorry my computer time is up.  :( :oops: )
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Its her on June 30, 2010, 09:13:13 PM
Continuing:  
Continuing: :(      (So sorry about that. Computer issues :roll: )

This is SO cool, please forgive any crazy language or typos. I am trying to be brief. :oops:

ANYWAY, Jesus says, amazed, "You guys??", (MJ's staff, family or friends, people trying to get fans STILL crying about this, to SEE that he is not dead, on twitter, etc., even here, because they still are too wrapped up in looking at the ground all sad, and don't even recognize his voice .)

 He reiterates all the prophecy that was foretold about the Messiah, and, He reminded them that JC had told and told them that He would do exactly THIS.(THIS IS IT !! What He had been talking about--in his lyrics, "Is It Scary For Ya, Baby?", and just things he said about himself----to Bashir: 'I AM Peter Pan', to his staff--giving them a P.T. Barnum PLAYbook, practically!!!!) :o  :wink:

When they reach their home, JC seems (Faker) as if He will keep going on, but they beg him to stay over with them. (Haven't we ALL begged MJ to come bacK?!)  It's getting dark and late (2012, you betcha)...so He stays for dinner. ( :wink: --they CAN't let Him go--even though they don't get why this stranger fascinates them)

While they eat, He DOES something which they saw Jesus do MANY times ---the way he "broke the bread"( could also be metaphorical for "breaking His message" to them, or, feeding or "seeding their souls " with edifying words of God.) Instantly He (MJ!) comes to mind. :wink:

Scripture says immediately their eyes were opened and they recognized he had been with them all afternoon!  :wink:  But, instantly, as they realized it was HIM, he "vanished". ( :wink:  was that a magician? or did the "movie" just end for them, heh, heh, heh....)And they SAID TO ONE ANOTHER  :wink: (more  :roll:  :lol:  Hoax Death Forum)

"DID NOT OUR HEARTS BURN WITHIN US, WHILE HE TALKED WITH US, BY THE WAY, AND WHILE HE OPENED(explained)  TO US THE SCRIPTURES? :o (SOMEONE SAID THAT every SINGLE INTERVIEW MIKE EVER GAVE SOMEONE, HE MENTIONED JESUS OR THE WORD OF GOD...Just sayin' 8-) )

:wink:  :!: THEN, "They ALL said to one another" (went to another Forum and told THOSE guys over there!!) that He was alive; that they had SEEN him.  Holy MOLY  :!:

WHILE they were sharing the good news with the other groups, Jesus APPEARED to all of them,  (Ta DA!!) and told them that these things had to happen, so that the MESSAGE could be paid attention to, by the MOST people possible.  :shock:

WHAT message?  HOLD DOWN your hair!! while I read you, right from the Bible, where it SAYS: "MAKE that Change!"  In verse 47, "on the basis of his name, REPENTANCE (Literally, "To Change Direction" :!: )...would be preached in ALL the Nations..."

This is SO uncanny. He says that these are the same words he spoke to us when he was with us. He goes over it all (the prophecies and scriptures there) again, and OPENS UP THEIR MINDS, IN ORDER TO FULLY GRASP THE MEANING. :o  (ALL of the stuff we've been reading here has served to open our thinking !) He talks about all the scary things He (Christ) had to go through, but it relates to MJ , too, as far as the torturous ride MJ was forced on for years. Then, after He is all done with the subject, He says:

"YOU are to be witnesses (TELLING OTHERS WHAT YOU SAW AND KNOW) of these things!"

THIS is your ANSWER, JILL!!!! (Remember, she asked on her own post about Being An Intercessor, what that could mean? This Is It . :lol: )

Now, I don't mean a bunch of religion. It is somewhat allegorical, the comparison. But what difference does it make? If YOU make that change, you re-pent (turn around; turn away, from what ever error you found in your self ---not others, as you looked in your "mirror". The world is a whole better place...

I think this is A MAZING. :o  :D It is NOT a coincidence that JC showed up in the numbers list, at 151 (One 51 year old, trying to enlist some help to save the planet and all its children).
and the other number, "51=FIND ME"  :!:  :?:  HIM ASKING US TO, MEANS HE IS HERE, AND IT IS POSSIBLE TO SPOT HIM!  :D

Where else COULD he be, than, AT THE MOVIES  :lol:  :?:

[Is that you , Mikey  :?:  ]

When you saw AVATAR, were your eyes "holden", until a certain point when a character said SOME thing we've heard Mike say a bazillion times?  And THEN, just as you realized you FELT Michael Jackson in the room  :lol:  he VANISHED???

Did your heart BURN strangely within you, during the entire movie, though---even if you don't recall thinking of him?  Mine did.

This film is the ONLY war film I EVER saw, which articulated the genius that BOTH sides LOSE, always. The only one I EVER heard of which made you SEE . The ONLY one I ever saw which made you FEEL the actual price of the loss was more than just a person's life here and there, or hundreds of persons' lives. It cost the aggressors their DECENCY, their very humanity. It cost the defenders every priceless untold Ageless Secret and gifts of healing,  they would have willingly shared with a universe at PEACE.  MAN!

I didn't see MJ in the credits or titles. We wouldn't know if he was there under a pseudonym.  :?  NO, I didn't see his mug in any frames. :?  But I FELT  like I could almost hear the J5 singing MAN of WAR---ALL through the film!  Maybe I've finally gone to La la land on the mono-rail in my dream. MAN, I loved that movie!  It felt like HIM. It was So cool. So was 2012!!  He was ALL over that.  Am I wrong, ladies?????????????????????????????

He SAID he was bitten by the movie bug almost 30 years ago. He has GOT to be doing this, now!! As far as being "wet behind the ears, he told Geraldo in 2005 or 2006 that he was having SO much fun, but on which movie(s) was he working????  

I think, HE thinks that while he's a little "wet behind the ears" (an expression for : "being brand new at" something, in this case feature-length films) ---I think he is just going to SURPRISE us, by doing things we have all seen or heard him do a million times!  We'll SPOT him, when he or some character in the film, DOES THIS !

I almost forgot: :o: in my dream, the reason I was there waitIng for him to shower, is,  it turns out, to be another "figure of speech": "to come clean"; in other words: MJ is going to "come clean", and SHOW HIMSELF TO US :!:

In the dream, when he said, "Come on." to me, it is to SHOW us something. I think we are going to see him piece by piece, more and more, just as he said, until all of him is revealed, once again. HE IS HERE. :) I can't stop asking this: Can you feel him (IN some movies he could have worked on, in SOME capacity, like I do)????  :D :D :D  Can you tell us about it, maybe all in the same place-- on the Movie thread or something?  It has nothing really to do with Hoax Investigation , per se---but only him coming back as I feel he is, movie by movie. 8-) Can we do a little of this?  :)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: LaLove09 on June 30, 2010, 09:22:27 PM
OMG @ All this!!!!!! :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
 I keyed in some key words pertaining to me and...  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
I was like GTFOH!!!! WOW!!!!!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on June 30, 2010, 11:42:16 PM
See You In July in English Gematria Equals: 1086      (9+6= 15;  15:5= 3)

See You In July = Whatever Happens, You Are Not Alone, A Little Bird Told Me (LOL)

Hoax Death in English Gematria Equals: 516       (6+6= 12;  12:4= 3)

Hoax Death = President Obama, Dangerous, Death Hoax, Las Vegas, Curtain

Joe Or Joseph in English Gematria Equals: 816   (9+6= 15; 15:5= 3)

Joe Or Joseph? = Can You Feel It, Paris Jackson

Xscape in English Gematria Equals: 408  (4+8= 12;  12:4= 3)

Xscape = July 10 2010, July, July 7 2010, Fbi Files

I Love You More in English Gematria Equals: 1050       (1+5= 6;  6:2= 3)

I Love You More = Seventy Seven (77), Ancient Archeology, Another Part Of Me, Man In The Mirror, She Drives Me Wild, It Looks Like A Scam (LOL), Horror Movies (indeed), California Medical Board (i love coincidences), Serenitys Dream ( :lol: ), He Is Quite Insane, Michael Jackson hiding

50 = June 25 2009 (gotta love this), Magic 107,7; Magic

Tell me how creepy is this

The Day He Died in English Gematria Equals: 588   (5+8+8= 21;    21:3= 7 ;   21:7= 3)

The Day He Died = Final Curtain Call, Brian Oxman, Dualisms, Morphine, Daddys Home, Day Of Doom, Pop Top, Arnie Kline (almost!)

Seventh Son in English Gematria Equals: 846   (12+6= 18; 18:2= 9)

Seventh Son = Age Of Aquarius, Jackson House, I M On The Moon (hahah I remember when someone said Michael was on the moon lol), Dont Do Drugs (even gematrix knows this)

What the...

Lapd Fire Department Paramedics in English Gematria Equals: 1656   (12+6= 18;  18:2= 9)

Lapd Fire Department Paramedics = Theres Method In My Madness, Jackson Was Gone To Expose, As The World Turns Cancelled, Truth And Kaos, One And The Same, Full Moon Drives Me Crazy (indeed  :shock: ), One Way Ticket To The Moon (hahah again this omg), Tomorrow Is Another Day, Pieces Of All Beliefs Is Truth

Fire Department Paramedics in English Gematria Equals: 1458   (10+8= 18;  18:2= 9)

Fire Department Paramedics = Greyson Michael Chance, The Run Around, All Corners Of The World, Nineth Reason To Get Free, If You Knew What I Knew

Travis Payne in English Gematria Equals: 900  --> 9

Travis Payne  = Three Nine Six ( ... ), Understanding, Peoples Favor, The Globe Magazine, I Saw The Seven, What Am I Here For

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3350/omggb.jpg) (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/omggb.jpg/)

This Is It Tour in English Gematria Equals: 1122   (2+4= 6; 6:2= 3)

This Is It Tour =June, June 15 2010, June 10,June 25 2009, June 25, Lisa Marie Presley, Say Goodnight Gracie, Brotherhood Of Death, No More Worries, If You Think That, Michael Jackson Not Dead (WHAT THE .................)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on June 30, 2010, 11:56:47 PM
You guys are awesome! What great thinkers we have here!!!  I love it!  
I want to fall off the chair at each one of these matches....it's really weird!
It might be going on two Cokes and a smile now Michael!  :)

Thanks for the hard work....you all are amazing!
Blessings!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 01, 2010, 12:06:26 AM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
You guys are awesome! What great thinkers we have here!!!  I love it!  
I want to fall off the chair at each one of these matches....it's really weird!
It might be going on two Cokes and a smile now Michael!  :)

Thanks for the hard work....you all are amazing!
Blessings!

Too many weird coincidences..what the heck is going on LOL .."This is it tour" tell me how do you explain that .......

___________________________________________________________


I Am Alive And I Am Here Forever in English Gematria Equals: 1434  (8+4= 12;  12:4= 3)

I Am Alive And I Am Here Forever = Better Safe Than Sorry, Mind Control Technique, He Who Is The All Seeing Eye


This is freaking me out...        

Im Alive And Im Here Forever in English Gematria Equals: 1422   (7+2= 9; 9:3= 3)

Im Alive And Im Here Forever = Janet Jackson On American Idol, Seven Seven Seven Nine, They Dont Care About Us, Legend Of The Seeker Season 3, How Deep Is Your Love
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: PinkTopaz on July 01, 2010, 12:19:03 AM
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! What in the Good Lord's Name is this?! All of this is amazing, but let me get this straight: you guys just went to this site and punched in these words and you get those blatant hoax words, out of all of the thousands of words in the English language back?! Are y'all sure this wasn't somehow made by believers?!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 01, 2010, 12:30:20 AM
...WHAT IN THE NAME OF CHRIST IS THIS!!!


Michael Jackson Escape in English Gematria Equals: 1038   (4+8= 12;  12:4= 3)

Michael Jackson Escape = Genetically Modified Organism, Transcending Reality, Paris Jackson, Perfect Love, Seven Times Nine, Dr Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson Alive, Your Third Eye, Its All For You
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on July 01, 2010, 12:37:42 AM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! What in the Good Lord's Name is this?! All of this is amazing, but let me get this straight: you guys just went to this site and punched in these words and you get those blatant hoax words, out of all of the thousands of words in the English language back?! Are y'all sure this wasn't somehow made by believers?!


Hey there....
If you read my first post on this thread it will explain how it was found etc.....it is actually the second site I stumbled on.  It has snowballed into this really weird set of things.....unexplainable.  I understand coincidences, but this is too much.  Maybe it will get redirected  39 = TIAI = TS       ......LOL, that would make my day!
Blessings!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 01, 2010, 12:42:51 AM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! What in the Good Lord's Name is this?! All of this is amazing, but let me get this straight: you guys just went to this site and punched in these words and you get those blatant hoax words, out of all of the thousands of words in the English language back?! Are y'all sure this wasn't somehow made by believers?!


Hey there....
If you read my first post on this thread it will explain how it was found etc.....it is actually the second site I stumbled on.  It has snowballed into this really weird set of things.....unexplainable.  I understand coincidences, but this is too much.  Maybe it will get redirected  39 = TIAI = TS       ......LOL, that would make my day!
Blessings!

WELL........

Who Is Ts in English Gematria Equals: 678   (6+7+8= 21;  21:7= 3;  21:3= 7)

Who Is Ts = Salvation, This Is It
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on July 01, 2010, 12:46:48 AM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! What in the Good Lord's Name is this?! All of this is amazing, but let me get this straight: you guys just went to this site and punched in these words and you get those blatant hoax words, out of all of the thousands of words in the English language back?! Are y'all sure this wasn't somehow made by believers?!


Hey there....
If you read my first post on this thread it will explain how it was found etc.....it is actually the second site I stumbled on.  It has snowballed into this really weird set of things.....unexplainable.  I understand coincidences, but this is too much.  Maybe it will get redirected  39 = TIAI = TS       ......LOL, that would make my day!
Blessings!

WELL........

Who Is Ts in English Gematria Equals: 678   (6+7+8= 21;  21:7= 3;  21:3= 7)

Who Is Ts = Salvation, This Is It

 :shock:
I have no idea what to think anymore.....
king's to you Michael.......
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 01, 2010, 12:55:06 AM
hahahahaha OMG check this out........

Who Is In The Hoax in English Gematria Equals: 1068      (7+8= 15;  15:5= 3)

Who Is In The Hoax = Jackson Brothers, Ark Of The Covenant, President Barack Obama
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 01, 2010, 12:59:50 AM
Who said padded cell? ...

Who Are In The Hoax in English Gematria Equals: 1044   (5+4= 9; 9:3= 3)

Who Are In The Hoax = Marvin Bodyguard, The Seventh Son (Michael), According To Hoyle

According to Hoyle

Meaning
In accord with the highest authority; in accord with a strict set of rules.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/acco ... hoyle.html (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/according-to-hoyle.html)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: PinkTopaz on July 01, 2010, 02:39:34 AM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! What in the Good Lord's Name is this?! All of this is amazing, but let me get this straight: you guys just went to this site and punched in these words and you get those blatant hoax words, out of all of the thousands of words in the English language back?! Are y'all sure this wasn't somehow made by believers?!


Hey there....
If you read my first post on this thread it will explain how it was found etc.....it is actually the second site I stumbled on.  It has snowballed into this really weird set of things.....unexplainable.  I understand coincidences, but this is too much.  Maybe it will get redirected  39 = TIAI = TS       ......LOL, that would make my day!
Blessings!

WELL........

Who Is Ts in English Gematria Equals: 678   (6+7+8= 21;  21:7= 3;  21:3= 7)

Who Is Ts = Salvation, This Is It

 :shock:
I have no idea what to think anymore.....
king's to you Michael.......
Well, of course, y'all know TS is the messenger! But I just can't stop thinking that this was somehow done by believers..
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 01, 2010, 04:16:33 AM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! What in the Good Lord's Name is this?! All of this is amazing, but let me get this straight: you guys just went to this site and punched in these words and you get those blatant hoax words, out of all of the thousands of words in the English language back?! Are y'all sure this wasn't somehow made by believers?!


Hey there....
If you read my first post on this thread it will explain how it was found etc.....it is actually the second site I stumbled on.  It has snowballed into this really weird set of things.....unexplainable.  I understand coincidences, but this is too much.  Maybe it will get redirected  39 = TIAI = TS       ......LOL, that would make my day!
Blessings!

WELL........

Who Is Ts in English Gematria Equals: 678   (6+7+8= 21;  21:7= 3;  21:3= 7)

Who Is Ts = Salvation, This Is It

 :shock:
I have no idea what to think anymore.....
king's to you Michael.......
Well, of course, y'all know TS is the messenger! But I just can't stop thinking that this was somehow done by believers..

It's not. If you tried that site and saw how it works you wouldn't say so..
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 01, 2010, 06:17:49 AM
I'm starting to love that site

TS Revelation in English Gematria Equals: 960     (9+6= 15;  15:5= 3)

Ts Revelation = Ju Y 7 2010  (july-7-2010. How cool is this? We always said on july 7 we would get some huge clues or whatever..), Justice Served, 2300 Jackson Street, Nine Thoughts, More Fool You (Mm..lol)


2300 Jackson Street (Jackson 5)
For most of this album, The Jacksons consisted of Jermaine, Jackie, Randy, and Tito Jackson. Michael Jackson and Marlon Jackson appear only on the title track, along with their sisters, Rebbie and Janet (middle sister La Toya was, at the time of this album, estranged from the family and therefore does not appear on the song).

2300 Jackson Street
2300 Jackson Street
2300 Jackson Street

Memories of growing up
And working hard
Our childhood passed us by

Mom and Dad
They sacrificed their wants and need
So we could reach the light
Although the times were tough for us
We knew they both worked hard
They gave us all their hearts could give
And still made room for love
We're all united
And standing strong
And still today
We're one big family

2300 Jackson Street
Always home
2300 Jackson Street
Always home

In harmony, together we'll join
Hands and sign
Our love across the land

Remember we always said,
If we got a change
We'll plan our work
And work our master plan


Although the road of life is tough
It has its ups and downs
We are the one and all
We can conquer all
We are united
And standing strong
And still today we're one big family

2300 Jackson Street
Always home
2300 Jackson Street
Always home

Mother and Father
They raised us to be
The best that we could be
Now the stage is set
The curtain's up
The crowd applauds your name


Then give a smile
Let's do your best
No matter how far we go

2300 Jackson Street
Always home
2300 Jackson Street

4 Years To Get It Right in English Gematria Equals: 1356   (9+6= 15;  15:5= 3)

4 Years To Get It Right = It,S All For L O V E, Doctor Conrad Murray, Yeardley Love Funeral

Four Years To Get It Right in English Gematria Equals: 1716  (8+7= 15;  15:5= 3)

Four Years To Get It Right = July Two Thousand And Ten (july 2010 ..Without doubt this month will be interesting..), July 23 Two Thousand And Ten

This Is It Message in English Gematria Equals: 1092   (10+2= 12;  12:4= 3)

This Is It Message = Seven Seven Six, Why Did I Get Married (Janet's movie), The End Of The World, Tommy Mottola ( ... ), Winning Numbers

This is funny...and creepy...

Michael Jacksons Message in English Gematria Equals: 1272   (10+2= 12;  12:4= 3)

Michael Jacksons Message = Black Or White, The Manhattan Project (see below),  Immaculate Conception, Monetary System, King Is Always Right, All Is Not As It Seems, I Believe In Being Faithful, Saves Your Soul, One Equals A Thousand, We Gotta Live And Love, Unity Of The People, Happily Ever After All, First Day Of Summer, Is Tmz Watching Us

The Manhattan Project
The Manhattan Project was the codename for a project conducted during World War II to develop the first atomic bombs. The project was led by the United States, and included participation from the United Kingdom and Canada.
Details of this Division came out in Eileen Welsome's book The Plutonium Files, for which she won a Pulitzer Prize. It documented human experiments in which the subjects did not know they were being tested to find the safety limits of uranium and plutonium. Hodge attended a meeting where the experiments were planned in 1945, and an AEC memo thanks Hodge for his planning and suggestions in the experiment. The US government settled with the victims' families, paying $400,000 per family. Seven victims were injected with material smuggled into a hospital secretly through a tunnel. One unmarried, white 24-year old woman was injected with 584 micrograms of uranium; another 61-year old man was injected with 70 micrograms per kilogram[clarification needed] of uranium.[27]:93 Hodge also arranged for Dr. Sweet to inject 11 terminally-ill patients with uranium for their brain tumors; however, these subjects may have known they were being tested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: suspicious mind on July 01, 2010, 09:00:14 AM
have any of you tried this thing with words or phrases totoally unrelated to the hoax or micheal?
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: nefari on July 01, 2010, 09:12:50 AM
lmao I just put in the name Jermaine and came up with
*The Doctor, Idea Man, The Cake Boss, Slip of the Tongue*
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: CC on July 01, 2010, 09:13:44 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
have any of you tried this thing with words or phrases totoally unrelated to the hoax or micheal?

yes, I tried my name and other things... why?
my complete name
this is it, propofol, black & white, unicorn, apocalypse
but i want to say if any of the words you put is not in gematria databse you can add it, so... maybe a lot of believers are adding this words but even if that is the case is creepy that all the hoax related words are connected, don´t you think?
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on July 01, 2010, 10:33:24 AM
I had started looking around this site some time ago....it was after I had lost the first site
(I talked about it in the very first post).
I think we are down to having a mix now......some folks are messing with us(because they found out about it), some are, in fact, meant for us to see.  What I have not done is validate some of these larger words and phrases.  Going on the straight a=1, b=2 etc formula, do these really add up to the same things?  Just because we see it in print.........
so, I will spend some time today poking around these.  If I find any that really do not add up I will post about about them.  What is interesting though, is if these really do all add up to a match....there really are some weird things...regardless of who put them there.  

Hope you all have a wonderful, blessed day!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 01, 2010, 10:56:47 AM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
I had started looking around this site some time ago....it was after I had lost the first site
(I talked about it in the very first post).
I think we are down to having a mix now......some folks are messing with us(because they found out about it), some are, in fact, meant for us to see.  What I have not done is validate some of these larger words and phrases.  Going on the straight a=1, b=2 etc formula, do these really add up to the same things?  Just because we see it in print.........
so, I will spend some time today poking around these.  If I find any that really do not add up I will post about about them.  What is interesting though, is if these really do all add up to a match....there really are some weird things...regardless of who put them there.  

Hope you all have a wonderful, blessed day!

it doesn't matter if people add words that aren't in the list because it's the numerology what matters..so as much as they try to fool us it won't work..it's all random based on the numerical value
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 01, 2010, 11:39:24 AM
What a coincidence that the result is always 3, 7 or 9 ...

Here are some of the words with the same numerical value:

Uncle Harvey in English Gematria Equals: 804   (8+4= 12;  12:4= 3)

Uncle Harvey = Rollin The Dice, Come Together, Information, Michael J Jackson

What Is Tmz Role In The Hoax in English Gematria Equals: 1758   (8+13= 21;  21:7= 3;  21:3= 7)

What Is Tmz Role In The Hoax = Seventy Seven Thoughts, The Actor Is Lost In His Role, Tii Was Never Meant To Happen

Our forum
Michaeljacksonhoaxforum in English Gematria Equals: 1470  (5+7= 12;  12:4= 3)

Michaeljacksonhoaxforum = Many Happy Returns, Theory Of Everything, First Reason To Get Free, Listen To Your Heart, Michael Jackson Still Alive

Michael Jackson Hoax Forum Investigators in English Gematria Equals: 2538   (10+8= 18;  18:2= 9)

Michael Jackson Hoax Forum Investigators = Dcctor Murray Wrongful Eye Surgery  (??)

Las Vegas Escape in English Gematria Equals: 810    (8+1= 9;  9:3= 3)

Las Vegas Escape = Doctor Murray, Soule Shaun (WHAT!), Kenny Ortega, Randy Jackson, Protection, Production, Best Believe It, Lunar Eclipse

So You Think You Can Dance in English Gematria Equals: 1578  (13+8= 21;  21:7= 3;  21:3= 7)

So You Think You Can Dance = Michael Jackson Is Alive, Lord Is Rising In Truth, He Will Give The Devil His Due, I Am From A Distance Place Far Away, Will Dr Murray Go To Jail

Ts Revealed in English Gematria Equals: 666  ( ... )

Ts Revealed = Michael Jackson Fake Death, My Brothers Keeper, Joseph Prince

Is Michael Jackson Dead in English Gematria Equals: 996   (18+6= 24;  24:8= 3)

Is Michael Jackson Dead = Marvin G Butts ( ... ), Magnificent Seven, It,S All For L O V E, Action And Reaction, September Eleven, Twin Towers


 :lol: Why Is This Site So Creepy in English Gematria Equals: 1794   (17+4= 21;  21:7= 3;  21:3= 7)

Why Is This Site So Creepy = Numerology Compatibility, When Somebody Loves You Back, The Two Beasts Of Revelation

Tell Me Something in English Gematria Equals: 1062   (7+2= 9;  9:3= 3)

Tell Me Something = Michael Jackson Comeback    ( ... ), Blame It On The Boogie

Whats The Story/What is the story in English Gematria Equals: 1206   (3+6= 9;  9:3= 3)

Whats The Story / What is the story = Michael Jackson Is Alive, When Will Michael Come Back, Michaeljacksondeathhoax, Michael Jackson Hoax Death

Did Michael Die in English Gematria Equals: 516    (6+6= 12;  12:4= 3)

Did Michael Die = Brother, Someone, Las Vegas, Death Hoax, Hoax Death

 :lol:  :lol:  Is The Nephew Legit in English Gematria Equals: 1110   --> 3

Is The Nephew Legit? = This Is Yeah Right, Michael Jackson Fake Death

Why So Many Connections To Mj in English Gematria Equals: 1992  (10+11= 21;  21:7= 3;  21:3= 7)

Wtf...  :?
Why So Many Connections To Mj = No Idea What Is Going On To Be Honest

What Does Katherine Know in English Gematria Equals: 1494   (5+13= 18;  18:2= 9)

What Does Katherine Know = John Chapter Fourteen Verse One (see below), Elvis Has Left The Building, All That Ever Was And Will Be, Instructional Videos  .......

John Chapter Fourteen Verse One
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
Full chapter at http://www.christiananswers.net/bible/john14.html (http://www.christiananswers.net/bible/john14.html)

Omg this is so surreal..

Give Me All Your Patience And Endurance in English Gematria Equals: 2052   (7+2= 9; 9:3= 3)

Give Me All Your Patience And Endurance = Neverland Valley Ranch, Someone Is Walking Over My Grave, Ap World History Practice Test, Your The Ones Thats Listening

This Is Also It Redirection in English Gematria Equals: 1680   (7+8= 15;  15:5= 3)

This Is Also It Redirection = Tommy Mottola ( ... ), I Spy With My Little Eye, Why You Wanna Trip On Me

Ben Evenstad Photo in English Gematria Equals: 1110  --> 3

Ben Evenstad Photo = Jackson Family, Michael Jackson Fake Death, Is The Nephew Legit


Ok I'm done for today I'm tired  :geek:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Its her on July 01, 2010, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
I'm starting to love that site

TS Revelation in English Gematria Equals: 960     (9+6= 15;  15:5= 3)

Ts Revelation = Ju Y 7 2010  (july-7-2010. How cool is this? We always said on july 7 we would get some huge clues or whatever..), Justice Served,

 2300 Jackson Street ,

 Nine Thoughts
, More Fool You (Mm..lol)


2300 Jackson Street (Jackson 5)
For most of this album, The Jacksons consisted of Jermaine, Jackie, Randy, and Tito Jackson. Michael Jackson and Marlon Jackson appear only on the title track, along with their sisters, Rebbie and Janet (middle sister La Toya was, at the time of this album, estranged from the family and therefore does not appear on the song).

2300 Jackson Street
2300 Jackson Street
2300 Jackson Street

Memories of growing up
And working hard
Our childhood passed us by

Mom and Dad
They sacrificed their wants and need
So we could reach the light
Although the times were tough for us
We knew they both worked hard
They gave us all their hearts could give
And still made room for love
We're all united
And standing strong
And still today
We're one big family

2300 Jackson Street
Always home
2300 Jackson Street
Always home

In harmony, together we'll join
Hands and sign
Our love across the land

Remember we always said,
If we got a change
We'll plan our work
And work our master plan


Although the road of life is tough
It has its ups and downs
We are the one and all
We can conquer all
We are united
And standing strong
And still today we're one big family

2300 Jackson Street
Always home
2300 Jackson Street
Always home

Mother and Father
They raised us to be
The best that we could be
Now the stage is set
The curtain's up
The crowd applauds your name


Then give a smile
Let's do your best
No matter how far we go

2300 Jackson Street
Always home
2300 Jackson Street

4 Years To Get It Right in English Gematria Equals: 1356   (9+6= 15;  15:5= 3)

4 Years To Get It Right = It,S All For L O V E, Doctor Conrad Murray, Yeardley Love Funeral

Four Years To Get It Right in English Gematria Equals: 1716  (8+7= 15;  15:5= 3)

Four Years To Get It Right = July Two Thousand And Ten (july 2010 ..Without doubt this month will be interesting..), July 23 Two Thousand And Ten

This Is It Message in English Gematria Equals: 1092   (10+2= 12;  12:4= 3)

This Is It Message = Seven Seven Six, Why Did I Get Married (Janet's movie), The End Of The World, Tommy Mottola ( ... ), Winning Numbers

This is funny...and creepy...

Michael Jacksons Message in English Gematria Equals: 1272   (10+2= 12;  12:4= 3)

Michael Jacksons Message = Black Or White, The Manhattan Project (see below),  Immaculate Conception, Monetary System, King Is Always Right, All Is Not As It Seems, I Believe In Being Faithful, Saves Your Soul, One Equals A Thousand, We Gotta Live And Love, Unity Of The People, Happily Ever After All, First Day Of Summer, Is Tmz Watching Us

The Manhattan Project
The Manhattan Project was the codename for a project conducted during World War II to develop the first atomic bombs. The project was led by the United States, and included participation from the United Kingdom and Canada.
Details of this Division came out in Eileen Welsome's book The Plutonium Files, for which she won a Pulitzer Prize. It documented human experiments in which the subjects did not know they were being tested to find the safety limits of uranium and plutonium. Hodge attended a meeting where the experiments were planned in 1945, and an AEC memo thanks Hodge for his planning and suggestions in the experiment. The US government settled with the victims' families, paying $400,000 per family. Seven victims were injected with material smuggled into a hospital secretly through a tunnel. One unmarried, white 24-year old woman was injected with 584 micrograms of uranium; another 61-year old man was injected with 70 micrograms per kilogram[clarification needed] of uranium.[27]:93 Hodge also arranged for Dr. Sweet to inject 11 terminally-ill patients with uranium for their brain tumors; however, these subjects may have known they were being tested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project)

There used to be a video of the whole family singing this song on the THIS Is It site.  Months ago, when I clicked on that, it showed me an almost 15 minute Spike Lee Michael Jackson Tribute video INSTEAD

This video makes it pretty clear that the MJ we all knew WON'T be THAT WAY, :? any more...and now it is not on the TII site anymore either, but it is here:
 
http://www.vevo.com/watch/michael-jacks ... SM20902257 (http://www.vevo.com/watch/michael-jackson/a-tribute-to-michael-jackson-featuring-this-is-it/USSM20902257)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: PinkTopaz on July 01, 2010, 10:04:08 PM
Oh my, I thought I'd try someone totally unrelated, so I put in "Rihanna", and there were lots of random ones, but some that really fit her like "Beloved", "Music", "Angry", (you know..) But of all things, BAMSDAY! That's not a real word! Is it?! How can this be?!

BTW, this site just has me stunned and puzzled as heck- It feels TOO amazing!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: LaLove09 on July 02, 2010, 12:37:37 AM
I really think that this site is regenerating our entries, etc.
That has boomed since this post was posted.
If you noticed with most random entries
it says: "this or that is not in our data bank would you like to add it?" or what ever it says...

BUT I'm still amazed at the outcomes of my personal key words.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 02, 2010, 03:58:39 AM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Oh my, I thought I'd try someone totally unrelated, so I put in "Rihanna", and there were lots of random ones, but some that really fit her like "Beloved", "Music", "Angry", (you know..) But of all things, BAMSDAY! That's not a real word! Is it?! How can this be?!

BTW, this site just has me stunned and puzzled as heck- It feels TOO amazing!

bamsday is a word people added to the list according to the numerical value..
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 02, 2010, 08:40:03 AM
Today I focused on Gilda ... You will be surprised..

Gilda Mundson Farrell in English Gematria Equals: 1230  (3+3= 6;  6:2= 3)

Gilda Mundson Farrell = Seek And You Shall Find, Kentucky Fried Chicken  ( ... ), Is Sony In The Hoax

I remember when I was looking yesterday for "Is sony in the hoax" on gematrix so it was me who registered it
Today I searched for "Gilda mundson farrell" and it wasn't registered before so I did it. Funny how "Is sony in the hoax" and "gilda mundson farrell" have the same numerical value...

Now I searched "Gilda Mundson" and it says:  in English Gematria Equals: 798  (16+8= 24;  24:8= 3)

It wasn't registered so I did..now this is what appears on the list with the same numerical value..

Gilda Mundson = Tabloid Junkie, Live Free Or Die, Forest Lawn, July 7 2010 Florida, Jacksonville, This Is A Hoax, Good Numbers

Rita Hayworth in English Gematria Equals: 996  (18+6= 24;  24:8= 3)

Rita Hayworth (Gilda Mundson) = Light Reveals The Genius Loci Of A Place, It,S All For L O V E, Marvin G Butts, Is Michael Jackson Dead?, Love You More

Rita As Gilda in English Gematria Equals: 606    (6+6= 12;  12:4= 3)

Rita As Gilda = Thriller, Thriller 2 (TII), Michael Bush


Ok I also searched for "George Macready as Ballin"     Ballin is the one who fakes his death in Gilda (who also happens to be part of TII's Smooth criminal). George Macready is the name of the actor. Again it wasn't on the list so I registered it and I got:

George Macready As Ballin in English Gematria Equals: 1182  (10+2= 12;  12:4= 3)

George Macready As Ballin = Kickin Alive And, Michael Joseph Jackson, There Is No Coincidence, Light Love Truth, A Personal Book Of Life, Los Angeles California, Veronika Decides To Die (I don't know who veronika is but i'll take it as Michael)

Ballin Fakes Death in English Gematria Equals: 780   (7+8= 15;   15:5= 3)

Ballin Fakes Death = Thriller, Thriller 2  (TII), Rita As Gilda, Seventh Seal, Television, I See Numbers, Whats Up Doc  (Murray?....), Prodigal Son (Michael), Truth Of V  (v for Vendetta  ;D ), In The Closet, Lord Of The Dance, Mysticism

...Be your own judge but this is too coincidental and creepy

Ballin Fakes Death In Gilda in English Gematria Equals: 1116   (3+6= 9;  9:3= 3)

Ballin Fakes Death In Gilda = The Girl Is Mine, Loveth And Maketh A Lie, Just Good Friends, The Seventh Step, This Is Thriller, This Is Really It

Ballin Mundson As Michael Jackson in English Gematria Equals: 1764  (8+10= 18;  18:2= 9;  9:3= 3)

Ballin Mundson As Michael Jackson = Your Just Beginning To See, The Wonderful Wizard Of Oz, Pharmaceutical Corporations

Glenn Ford in English Gematria Equals: 570  (5+7= 12;  12:4= 3)

Glenn Ford as Johnny Farrell (Narrator in Gilda)
The film's plot is continually narrated by Johnny Farrell (Glenn Ford), a small-time gambler newly arrived in Buenos Aires, Argentina. When he wins a lot of money cheating at craps, he has to be rescued from a robbery attempt by a complete stranger, Ballin Mundson (George Macready). Mundson tells him about an illegal high-class casino, but warns him not to practice his skills there.
More at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilda)

Glenn Ford = Discover, Neverland, Duplicated, Peter Pan, Filmmaking, Faith And Life, Frank Dileo (could Frank Dileo actually be the "narrator" in the hoax? ....)

Glenn Ford As Johnny Farrell in English Gematria Equals: 1638  (10+8= 18;  18:2= 9;  9:3= 3)

Glenn Ford As Johnny Farrell = Michael Jackson Is Still Alive, I Can Take It Cause Im Lonely Z, Its Like A Jungle Sometimes, Comparisons Are Odorous, Create Your Own Reality

Gilda In Smooth Criminal in English Gematria Equals: 1350   (4+5= 9 ;  9:3= 3)

Gilda In Smooth Criminal = Joseph Walter Jackson (Joe), The Great Purification, I Am From A Distance Place Called, Invest Time In This J, Far From The Madding Crowd, Seventy Seven Too, Beatles Catalogue..
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MissG on July 02, 2010, 01:28:51 PM
My gosh, I don´t understand how you get the meanings. I type my name as a test and I got in simple Gematria number 26. The words that goes with that number are: God,Z,Card,Dog and more without any possible logic  :lol:
What am I missing?
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: cheetah on July 02, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
I wanna add something here:
sunflower in English Gematria Equals: 798    
Homosexual, whitehouse, healing power, big bang theory, obama traitor, tabloid junkie, live free or die, worry free, cool Britannia, laugh like a drain, north star, bad moon risin, hasta la vista,  hunker down, send him packing, bolder boulder 2010, day of the lord, forest lawn, book of the law, he who ends life, savior of man, south korea, july 7 2010 florida, false life beliefs, american people, Jacksonville, rebel spirit, sonya tayeh, true romance, exit here for, navajo Indians, good numbers, lords of karma, this is a hoax, gilda mundson
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MissG on July 02, 2010, 06:56:05 PM
Quote
july 7 2010 florida

I got today the same when I asked a question  :?
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MissG on July 02, 2010, 07:04:29 PM
Quote
where is michael jackson?
 :?:

opens temple doors   739   1266   211   22   
behold a pale white horse   1431   1266   211   20   
the stimulus package   939   1266   211   19   
time of jacobs trouble   1403   1266   211   19   
special relationship   660   1266   211   17   
how now brown cow   3973   1266   211   16   
robert nesta marley   1089   1266   211   15   
wise poet gods oracle   1529   1266   211   15   
keep a stiff upper lip   786   1266   211   14   
the living daylights   1537   1266   211   13   
paddle your own canoe   1913   1266   211   12   
much ado about nothing   903   1266   211   11   
a foregone conclusion   749   1266   211   9   
keep your pecker up   1233   1266   211   9   
obama son of perdition   677   1266   211   9   
toying with you   2273   1266   211   8   
the best things in life   653   1266   211   7   
sun moon querent   1000   1266   211   7   
allie lutz the hills   1135   1266   211   7   
albert pike campground   767   1266   211   7   
we can work together   2344   1266   211   7   
sir thomas wyatt   1959   1266   211   7   
true beauty season 2   1369   1266   211   6   
ice road truckers lisa   840   1266   211   6   
i heard that train a comin   679   1266   211   6   
todo mi amor eres tu   884   1266   211   6   
letters to juliet   1484   1266   211   5   
major league baseball draft 2010   1331   1266   211   5   
mark jackson is the one   1222   1266   211   5   
sold down the river   2145   1266   211   4   
quetzalcoatls mate   1296   1266   211   4   
lil boosie goes to jail   1187   1266   211   3   
benjamin roger pope is   1223   1266   211   3   
ballin mundson fake death   686   1266   211   3   
one sleep disorder is   696   1266   211   3
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: cheetah on July 02, 2010, 07:53:18 PM
Also, Derek Clontz in English Gematria Equals: 798!!!!
So that Derek Clontz=sunflower :shock:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: cheetah on July 02, 2010, 09:03:05 PM
cassandra gretchen sims  in Jewish Gematria Equals: 777

king of kings and lord of lords, order out of chaos, a hierophant key, do unto others, golden ratio measure, qt under fresh logic, c matrix cipher logic, burning the midnight oil, f Valhalla ( in Norse mythology, one of Odin 's female servants, who ride on their horses into battles and decide which brave soldiers will die. They then take the souls of the dead soldiers to Valhalla.), name gnosis key, open pure bottle, thunderous, share heroic couplet, american culture, no time to lose meaning of life, protect a million people, smartypig, science this is the action

cassandra gretchen sims  in English Gematria Equals: 1320

peace comes from within, stare into the abyss, 1600 pennsylvania avenue, great california mega quake, great haitian earthquake, riders on the storm, somebodys watching me, love will save the day, tracy meadows Jackson, your parcel is reading, thousand thoughts, all words are numbers , what does randy know, the king of pop tarts :lol:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: cheetah on July 03, 2010, 04:25:01 AM
black or white in Jewish Gematria Equals: 1188
black or white=Michael Jacksons Message  :o

black or white in English Gematria Equals: 762
=moonwalker  :o
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MissG on July 03, 2010, 12:58:10 PM
i just can´t stop loving you in Jewish Gematria Equals: 2919

why are women like parking spaces? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Results by English Gematria
thou can only serve one master   2193   1962   327   8   
the pharmaceutical corporations   1247   1962   327   7   
kicking rock downhill on the moon   1655   1962   327   7   
fool and his money are soon parted a   1370   1962   327   6   
love does no harm to its neighbor   1683   1962   327   6   

Results by Simple Gematria
thou can only serve one master   2193   1962   327   8   
the pharmaceutical corporations   1247   1962   327   7   
kicking rock downhill on the moon   1655   1962   327   7   
fool and his money are soon parted a   1370   1962   327   6   
love does no harm to its neighbor   1683   1962   327   6   
good point of diane lorrainne pope   985   1962   327   6   
diane lorraine popes intuition   1166   1962   327   6   
from the cedar tree that is in lebanon   1077   1962   327   4   
the powers of diane lorraine pope   1873   1962   327   4   
a fool and his money are soon parted   1370   1962   327   3   
diane lorraine popes

No idea what to make out of this.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: mjfjei7777 on July 04, 2010, 02:45:34 AM
hi everyone.
 this is weird too i had my third dream of mj last night.
 he was sitting in this auditorium next to this little kid who was wearing a mj glove.
anyway mj was disquised with short shaggy hair and he had a little tiny black mustache .and this big black western hat.and black glasses now i could tell in my dream it was him but where he was and who this kid was next to him puzzles me.hm i am wondering if like that other girl its her said in a auditorium in the movies.
but,i am wondering if its in disney world somewhere like maybe where they show captain e-o ?
i know mj loved that place he could be disquised like maybe something just so crazy nobody could figure out.
something to think about.
just thought i would share
god bless you
mjbad87
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: michaelmistery on July 04, 2010, 02:48:13 AM
pretty interesting stuff...
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: vilte90 on July 05, 2010, 05:45:05 PM
OMG, it's creepy, I just don't have any words to say about it. Who is it????????
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 14, 2010, 09:52:59 PM
Did anyone notice this link on the Gematria calculator site http://www.gematrix.org/

Peter's Gematria Site
http://masoncode.com/

With pages on:
GEMATRIA - THE Missing Key - Masonry and the Cabala
http://masoncode.com/Masonry%20and%20Cabala.htm

THE JEWELS OF FREEMASONRY
http://masoncode.com/The%20Jewels%20of%20Freemasonry.htm

Marlowe and Shakespeare
http://masoncode.com/Marlowe_and_Shakespeare.html
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: rag doll on July 15, 2010, 07:43:51 AM
I put  "BAM" in, just for fun. Interesting the words "baal" and "cage".
http://www.gematrix.org/?word=BAM (http://www.gematrix.org/?word=BAM)

Quote
Baal is a Northwest Semitic title and honorific meaning "master" or "lord".
"Baal" can refer to any god and even to human officials; in some texts it is used as a substitute for Hadad, a god of the rain, thunder, fertility and agriculture, and the lord of Heaven.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal)

Probably nothing, but still...
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MissG on July 15, 2010, 10:04:18 AM
I still find no way of making sentences via gematria answers.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 15, 2010, 10:09:29 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
I still find no way of making sentences via gematria answers.
It is not meant to make sentences out of. The words that come up have the same numerical value and are believed to bet related to each other in some way.

Gematria or gimatria  is a system of assigning numerical value to a word or phrase, in the belief that words or phrases with identical numerical values bear some relation to each other, or bear some relation to the number itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MissG on July 15, 2010, 10:14:55 AM
Thanks!
After the words come up, then is up to one to find the meaning. That´s the odd part. What do I make out of this?

I just wrote:
michael jackson and egypt

and I got this:

Results by Jewish Gematria

extraordinary rendition   1487   1680   280   18   
scottish rite of freemasonry   1487   1950   325   11   
wgrz   1487   444   74   10   
four years to get it right   1487   1716   286   8   
key to the mysteries   1487   1452   242   7   
god satan two in one   1487   1176   196   5   
tatiana yvonne   1487   966   161   4   

Results by English Gematria/ Results by Simple Gematria
the angel of leiscerbette   666   1296   216   36   
prometheus rising   863   1296   216   28   
politically correct   1013   1296   216   25   
straightening by fire   998   1296   216   18   
twins towers fall   2411   1296   216   18   
megan fox leaked photos   842   1296   216   17   
my kingdom for a horse   950   1296   216   16   
prick up your ears   1328   1296   216   16   
a daniel come to judgement   1309   1296   216   15   
obama possessed by nebo   1067   1296   216   15   
divine right to rule   1426   1296   216   14   
constantine of armenia   700   1296   216   14   
white buffalo calf woman   2358   1296   216   14   
rapture of the tares   971   1296   216   12   
debralee lorenzana facebook   986   1296   216   12   
the land of milk and honey   851   1296   216   12   
alike as two peas in a pod   1506   1296   216   10   
philippines election 2010   602   1296   216   10   
history in the mix   1238   1296   216   10   
neverland valley ranch   2173   1296   216   10   
and to the end of the earth   720   1296   216   9   
too much of a good thing   773   1296   216   8   
lifes a bitch than you die   1070   1296   216   8   
ronald f chamblins karma of   582   1296   216   8   
lady seen by her nation   1300   1296   216   7   
press into service   1416   1296   216   6   
jagadeeshwaran ranganathan   2062   1296   216   6   
he owes my family and me   2034   1296   216   5   
she is an angel unawares   1633   1296   216   5   
if i could turn back time   881   1296   216   5   
till you get enough   1221   1296   216   4   
what are we living for   2921   1296   216   4   
ready for the future   1330   1296   216   4   
comedy theatre london   995   1296   216   4   
chris bosh twitter   1634   1296   216   3   
tell me all you know   1871   1296   216   3   
courtney fuhrmann   1283   1296   216   3   
born in glendale arizona   1004   1296   216   2   
ncaa football 11 rosters   789   1296   216   2   
yashua bar dawiyd khefera   2216   1296   216   2
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 15, 2010, 10:18:37 AM
Whoever set up this particular data base has loaded it with things related to Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson death hoax related words and phrases.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MissG on July 15, 2010, 10:25:48 AM
I used gematirx.org  :?

Time to move on with the gematria then, looks like a bluff
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 15, 2010, 10:29:09 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Whoever set up this particular data base has loaded it with things related to Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson death hoax related words and phrases.

No..at the beginning there was nothing related to Michael's hoax, but us, believers, started to look up for "hoax, michae jackson is alive" and so on, and then we added those words to the rest of the list, but you can only add to the ones that have the SAME NUMERICAL VALUE, so NO ONE SET THIS PARTICULAR DATA BASE. It is just coincidence based on numbers
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MissG on July 15, 2010, 10:35:49 AM
So, should i look to the number value only?
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 15, 2010, 10:54:31 AM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Whoever set up this particular data base has loaded it with things related to Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson death hoax related words and phrases.

No..at the beginning there was nothing related to Michael's hoax, but us, believers, started to look up for "hoax, michae jackson is alive" and so on, and then we added those words to the rest of the list, but you can only add to the ones that have the SAME NUMERICAL VALUE, so NO ONE SET THIS PARTICULAR DATA BASE. It is just coincidence based on numbers

Unless wishingstar added all the words to the database when she first started putting them in then they were already there. Words may have been added after. Maybe she should be asked if she added the words to the database when she first started using it because she is the one that said words related to Michael and the hoax were coming up when she "plugged" in other words in the OP that started this thread.

Quote from: "wishingstar"
I found another http://www.gematrix.org (http://www.gematrix.org)
it has been very useful with this adventure! Gematria seems to be the term for this.
Just a little more...........
remember the sunflowers at the tomb? Remember the frame? Why a frame? (a big thanks to lilwendy's investigation for posting the pic!) I teach art history to kids, so I immediately thought Van Gogh when I saw it on TMZ.....lilwendy reminded me of it :D
74= Van Gogh = Gematria, London
152=sunflowers=double-trouble, eyes-open-and-see, the-secret-sign
142=sun shower= seventh-sign, forty-two (Elvis' age ;) )
also in that tomb pic was something else that caught my eye....white orchids (very pretty)
122=white orchid= great-deceiver (no disrespect to our fellow hoxie : white_orchid)

Anyway it doesn't really matter the premise is that words with the same numerical value are related in some way and that is the point if you believe in this.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MissG on July 15, 2010, 11:02:30 AM
I used another site: http://real-world-news.org/numerics/eng ... atria.html (http://real-world-news.org/numerics/english-gematria.html)
wrote, michael jackson and egypt
result in number 1296
went back to gematrix.org, searched for the number and gave me this

slavery   1296   612   102   24   
angry young man   1296   1050   175   14   
egyptian pyramids   1296   1212   202   14   
covenant of masons   1296   1176   196   11   
quetzalcoatls mate   1296   1266   211   9   
keep body and soul together   1296   1602   267   8   
destructive   1296   876   146   5   
how fast is mach 6   1296   870   145   4   
moved out the cliff   1296   1104   184   3   

the angel of leiscerbette   666   1296   216   36   
prometheus rising   863   1296   216   28   
politically correct   1013   1296   216   25   
straightening by fire   998   1296   216   18   
twins towers fall   2411   1296   216   18   
megan fox leaked photos   842   1296   216   17   
my kingdom for a horse   950   1296   216   16   
prick up your ears   1328   1296   216   16   
a daniel come to judgement   1309   1296   216   15   
obama possessed by nebo   1067   1296   216   15   
divine right to rule   1426   1296   216   14   
constantine of armenia   700   1296   216   14   
white buffalo calf woman   2358   1296   216   14   
rapture of the tares   971   1296   216   13   
debralee lorenzana facebook   986   1296   216   12   
the land of milk and honey   851   1296   216   12   
alike as two peas in a pod   1506   1296   216   10   
philippines election 2010   602   1296   216   10   
history in the mix   1238   1296   216   10   
neverland valley ranch   2173   1296   216   10   
and to the end of the earth   720   1296   216   9   
too much of a good thing   773   1296   216   8   
lifes a bitch than you die   1070   1296   216   8   
ronald f chamblins karma of   582   1296   216   8   
lady seen by her nation   1300   1296   216   7   
press into service   1416   1296   216   6   
jagadeeshwaran ranganathan   2062   1296   216   6   
he owes my family and me   2034   1296   216   5   
she is an angel unawares   1633   1296   216   5   
if i could turn back time   881   1296   216   5   
till you get enough   1221   1296   216   4   
what are we living for   2921   1296   216   4   
ready for the future   1330   1296   216   4   
comedy theatre london   995   1296   216   4   
chris bosh twitter   1634   1296   216   3   
tell me all you know   1871   1296   216   3   
courtney fuhrmann   1283   1296   216   3   
born in glendale arizona   1004   1296   216   2   
ncaa football 11 rosters   789   1296   216   2   
yashua bar dawiyd khefera   2216   1296   216   2
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on July 15, 2010, 12:33:45 PM
Hey guys,
LOL...no I have not loaded ANY phrases or words to the site in question.  If you go back to my original first post about all this, I had only found this site because of losing another.  I have not added a single word to the data base.  I do think it's been added to a lot by folks reading here (members and not members).  But, what is amazing, is the actual number values do not change.  They are matches, regardless of who plugged them in.  For instance:  
the thread about Jermaine's twitter pic recently.....about the costumes he supposedly is going to wear (lol)  on the board he is holding up, the words I can read clearly are, " Shape Options" I got curious, like I do...
and looked up gematria, here are the matches for that phrase:
157   (the number match)
Thank me later leak
Pepsi Commercial
Seven Kingdoms
Staples Center
We Are the World

Now, who put those in....I have no idea.  I think Jermaine has given us clues all along.  Everything is orchestrated in this hoax or whatever it is.  Everything.  I almost wish this thread could redirect...never thought I'd say that!  It would make me feel less crazy for thinking there can't be this many "coincidences" !  
Thank you very much for all the thoughts and time investment with this.  I know it's odd, but this many coincidences?
Michael.... I'll take that Coke anytime now  ;)  

Many, Many Blessings!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 15, 2010, 12:53:35 PM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Hey guys,
LOL...no I have not loaded ANY phrases or words to the site in question.  If you go back to my original first post about all this, I had only found this site because of losing another.  I have not added a single word to the data base.  I do think it's been added to a lot by folks reading here (members and not members).  But, what is amazing, is the actual number values do not change.  They are matches, regardless of who plugged them in.  For instance:  
the thread about Jermaine's twitter pic recently.....about the costumes he supposedly is going to wear (lol)  on the board he is holding up, the words I can read clearly are, " Shape Options" I got curious, like I do...
and looked up gematria, here are the matches for that phrase:
157   (the number match)
Thank me later leak
Pepsi Commercial
Seven Kingdoms
Staples Center
We Are the World

Now, who put those in....I have no idea.  I think Jermaine has given us clues all along.  Everything is orchestrated in this hoax or whatever it is.  Everything.  I almost wish this thread could redirect...never thought I'd say that!  It would make me feel less crazy for thinking there can't be this many "coincidences" !  
Thank you very much for all the thoughts and time investment with this.  I know it's odd, but this many coincidences?
Michael.... I'll take that Coke anytime now  ;)  

Many, Many Blessings!

That was exactly what I thought you said in your OP. That some of these words and phrases related to Michael were already in the database when you originally found it. Thank you for clearing that up.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 15, 2010, 01:05:34 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Hey guys,
LOL...no I have not loaded ANY phrases or words to the site in question.  If you go back to my original first post about all this, I had only found this site because of losing another.  I have not added a single word to the data base.  I do think it's been added to a lot by folks reading here (members and not members).  But, what is amazing, is the actual number values do not change.  They are matches, regardless of who plugged them in.  For instance:  
the thread about Jermaine's twitter pic recently.....about the costumes he supposedly is going to wear (lol)  on the board he is holding up, the words I can read clearly are, " Shape Options" I got curious, like I do...
and looked up gematria, here are the matches for that phrase:
157   (the number match)
Thank me later leak
Pepsi Commercial
Seven Kingdoms
Staples Center
We Are the World

Now, who put those in....I have no idea.  I think Jermaine has given us clues all along.  Everything is orchestrated in this hoax or whatever it is.  Everything.  I almost wish this thread could redirect...never thought I'd say that!  It would make me feel less crazy for thinking there can't be this many "coincidences" !  
Thank you very much for all the thoughts and time investment with this.  I know it's odd, but this many coincidences?
Michael.... I'll take that Coke anytime now  ;)  

Many, Many Blessings!

That was exactly what I thought you said in your OP. That some of these words and phrases related to Michael were already in the database when you originally found it. Thank you for clearing that up.

The hoax started time ago and we weren't the first ones who looked up information on that page
Maybe other believers registered hoax related words and expressions before we did. As much as you try you can't add a hoax word or expression in the list you want it to be since it's random and only terms with the same numerical value can be placed together
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: MissG on July 15, 2010, 01:07:35 PM
Soooo, what is gematria revealing to us lately?  :lol:
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 15, 2010, 01:09:18 PM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Hey guys,
LOL...no I have not loaded ANY phrases or words to the site in question.  If you go back to my original first post about all this, I had only found this site because of losing another.  I have not added a single word to the data base.  I do think it's been added to a lot by folks reading here (members and not members).  But, what is amazing, is the actual number values do not change.  They are matches, regardless of who plugged them in.  For instance:  
the thread about Jermaine's twitter pic recently.....about the costumes he supposedly is going to wear (lol)  on the board he is holding up, the words I can read clearly are, " Shape Options" I got curious, like I do...
and looked up gematria, here are the matches for that phrase:
157   (the number match)
Thank me later leak
Pepsi Commercial
Seven Kingdoms
Staples Center
We Are the World

Now, who put those in....I have no idea.  I think Jermaine has given us clues all along.  Everything is orchestrated in this hoax or whatever it is.  Everything.  I almost wish this thread could redirect...never thought I'd say that!  It would make me feel less crazy for thinking there can't be this many "coincidences" !  
Thank you very much for all the thoughts and time investment with this.  I know it's odd, but this many coincidences?
Michael.... I'll take that Coke anytime now  ;)  

Many, Many Blessings!

That was exactly what I thought you said in your OP. That some of these words and phrases related to Michael were already in the database when you originally found it. Thank you for clearing that up.

The hoax started time ago and we weren't the first ones who looked up information on that page
Maybe other believers registered hoax related words and expressions before we did. As much as you try you can't add a hoax word or expression in the list you want it to be since it's random and only terms with the same numerical value can be placed together
I am not sure what you are trying to say but as I previously stated I will state again...

Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Anyway it doesn't really matter the premise is that words with the same numerical value are related in some way and that is the point if you believe in this.

Seems we are saying the same thing so what is it exactly that you are disagreeing with?
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 15, 2010, 01:22:11 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Hey guys,
LOL...no I have not loaded ANY phrases or words to the site in question.  If you go back to my original first post about all this, I had only found this site because of losing another.  I have not added a single word to the data base.  I do think it's been added to a lot by folks reading here (members and not members).  But, what is amazing, is the actual number values do not change.  They are matches, regardless of who plugged them in.  For instance:  
the thread about Jermaine's twitter pic recently.....about the costumes he supposedly is going to wear (lol)  on the board he is holding up, the words I can read clearly are, " Shape Options" I got curious, like I do...
and looked up gematria, here are the matches for that phrase:
157   (the number match)
Thank me later leak
Pepsi Commercial
Seven Kingdoms
Staples Center
We Are the World

Now, who put those in....I have no idea.  I think Jermaine has given us clues all along.  Everything is orchestrated in this hoax or whatever it is.  Everything.  I almost wish this thread could redirect...never thought I'd say that!  It would make me feel less crazy for thinking there can't be this many "coincidences" !  
Thank you very much for all the thoughts and time investment with this.  I know it's odd, but this many coincidences?
Michael.... I'll take that Coke anytime now  ;)  

Many, Many Blessings!

That was exactly what I thought you said in your OP. That some of these words and phrases related to Michael were already in the database when you originally found it. Thank you for clearing that up.

The hoax started time ago and we weren't the first ones who looked up information on that page
Maybe other believers registered hoax related words and expressions before we did. As much as you try you can't add a hoax word or expression in the list you want it to be since it's random and only terms with the same numerical value can be placed together
I am not sure what you are trying to say but as I previously stated I will state again...

Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Anyway it doesn't really matter the premise is that words with the same numerical value are related in some way and that is the point if you believe in this.

Seems we are saying the same thing so what is it exactly that you are disagreeing with?

I wasn't disagreeing with anyone LOl
I was actually agreeing with what you said in the previous post
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 15, 2010, 01:24:56 PM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Hey guys,
LOL...no I have not loaded ANY phrases or words to the site in question.  If you go back to my original first post about all this, I had only found this site because of losing another.  I have not added a single word to the data base.  I do think it's been added to a lot by folks reading here (members and not members).  But, what is amazing, is the actual number values do not change.  They are matches, regardless of who plugged them in.  For instance:  
the thread about Jermaine's twitter pic recently.....about the costumes he supposedly is going to wear (lol)  on the board he is holding up, the words I can read clearly are, " Shape Options" I got curious, like I do...
and looked up gematria, here are the matches for that phrase:
157   (the number match)
Thank me later leak
Pepsi Commercial
Seven Kingdoms
Staples Center
We Are the World

Now, who put those in....I have no idea.  I think Jermaine has given us clues all along.  Everything is orchestrated in this hoax or whatever it is.  Everything.  I almost wish this thread could redirect...never thought I'd say that!  It would make me feel less crazy for thinking there can't be this many "coincidences" !  
Thank you very much for all the thoughts and time investment with this.  I know it's odd, but this many coincidences?
Michael.... I'll take that Coke anytime now  ;)  

Many, Many Blessings!

That was exactly what I thought you said in your OP. That some of these words and phrases related to Michael were already in the database when you originally found it. Thank you for clearing that up.

The hoax started time ago and we weren't the first ones who looked up information on that page
Maybe other believers registered hoax related words and expressions before we did. As much as you try you can't add a hoax word or expression in the list you want it to be since it's random and only terms with the same numerical value can be placed together
I am not sure what you are trying to say but as I previously stated I will state again...

Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Anyway it doesn't really matter the premise is that words with the same numerical value are related in some way and that is the point if you believe in this.

Seems we are saying the same thing so what is it exactly that you are disagreeing with?

I wasn't disagreeing with anyone LOl
I was actually agreeing with what you said in the previous post

Then I apologize as I misunderstood your post and it seems that there is just so much disagreement on these forums today.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Hazzely on July 15, 2010, 01:34:22 PM
@Serenity

I agree, I also feel that way..
There's a lot of pressure right now on the forums and too many fights between believers
It's really discouraging and worrying..

Sending some love
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: wishingstar on July 15, 2010, 01:50:02 PM
I love you guys.......you crack me up, thank you for the discussion.  I am glad there are so many questions.  It shows were are human and interested in many things. It's awesome.
Any thoughts on the phrase I mentioned, "Shape Options" ?  
Those matches are undeniably freaky!  
Thank me later leak........  ??????? :shock:
Pepsi Commercial........ are we supposed to look at that more?
Staples Center.........why that? is there more to This is It than we see?
I read MJ had rehearsed also in Burbank, near the airport....anyone know?
We Are the World...........that is where we saw green-man.....

This gematria is weird stuff for sure.  Serenity....yes the links on the site are very odd, indeed.  Don't know what to make of it all.  The first site I found, didn't have any thing like that.  It was a darker background, with just the word calculator.  I don't remember ads or anything.  I wish that site was back.  It was weird how it disappeared on me.  I got the feeling I was too close....lol....I sound nuts!

Anyways....thanks guys!  I will continue with my gematria search and will post anything new and interesting.  
Have a great week!!!
Much LOVE and Blessings!
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: CantGetEnoughMJ on July 15, 2010, 02:27:48 PM
THis is fascinating stuff!!

By the way, I'm a little disturbed by the little icon next to the "English Gematria" category in the gematrix.org site.  It's a little small, but is that what I think it is?

(http://www.gematrix.org/images/english.jpg)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 15, 2010, 03:13:59 PM
Quote from: "CantGetEnoughMJ"
THis is fascinating stuff!!

By the way, I'm a little disturbed by the little icon next to the "English Gematria" category in the gematrix.org site.  It's a little small, but is that what I think it is?

(http://www.gematrix.org/images/english.jpg)

The pentagram with one point up is governed by God and used as protection.

(http://www.spellsandmagic.com/up.jpg)

The inverted pentagram or two points up is governed by evil.

(http://www.spellsandmagic.com/down.jpg)
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: CantGetEnoughMJ on July 15, 2010, 05:27:59 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "CantGetEnoughMJ"
THis is fascinating stuff!!

By the way, I'm a little disturbed by the little icon next to the "English Gematria" category in the gematrix.org site.  It's a little small, but is that what I think it is?

(http://www.gematrix.org/images/english.jpg)

The pentagram with one point up is governed by God and used as protection.

(http://www.spellsandmagic.com/up.jpg)


The inverted pentagram or two points up is governed by evil.

(http://www.spellsandmagic.com/down.jpg)

Whew....creeped me out for a sec.
Title: Re: Coincidences.....?
Post by: Glinda on July 29, 2010, 08:10:03 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Kl ... California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_in_Inglewood,_California)

 :geek:  :?:  :?:

I'm gonna look into this, i wonder how "active " the Klan still is.
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