Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: BlackVelvet on June 06, 2010, 11:52:01 AM
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Now I've really got into this I just am thinking of different things.
Just suppose that Michael never had plastic surgery and his face now is exactly as it was when he was a young boy, just older in the normal way?
Just suppose that all the plastic surgery he had was a hoax?
The nose was just a stick on over the top of his own nose, with of course cheeks made to look a little wider to cover?
The wide chin just over his own chin?
Then with everyone knowing how he look with the "plastic surgery" he dies then reverts to how he should look?
Nobody is looking for michael jackson older who looks as he should look, he can also blend in with his brothers who do look like him only older (if he had remained the same)
Now also i have seen some video of joe, and i thought that is not joe, it is someone who resembles.
I edit my post it is this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNmWXPUMVQ0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNmWXPUMVQ0)
I have seen video of Joe Jackson who does not sound subdued or shy as in this video, why also the hat to cover and shade facial features?
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Hello!
You know what?
I had this toughts in my head also!!!!!It is possible,you know,with Michael everything is possible.It had been the perfect COVER for him ,all this years. :lol:
IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING FOR MICHAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:
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so what do u think he looks like now...???????? :D
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so what do u think he looks like now...???????? :D
He has several brothers I believe and he is the youngest, am I wrong? Randy, Tito, Marlon, others?
I know what germaine looks like he is more famous, so not like him.
Now of these older brothers (maybe 60 years old plus years?) not famous, if one of those died and he take their place, who knows? Jackson body so dna of corpse will match.
I believe with no surgery now he will look like one of his own brothers.
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wow this is starting to remind me of some really weird dreams i had recently when i had a fever! i can actually go with some of these thoughts. but are you talking about skin color also.? i have wondered about different levels of makeup capabilities. it just mostly seems like a really bizarre idea though.sometimes i think this forum gives me an excuse to take a vacation from reality :lol: :oops:
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wow this is starting to remind me of some really weird dreams i had recently when i had a fever! i can actually go with some of these thoughts. but are you talking about skin color also.? i have wondered about different levels of makeup capabilities. it just mostly seems like a really bizarre idea though.sometimes i think this forum gives me an excuse to take a vacation from reality :lol: :oops:
I am guessing yes the skin colour also, hence he will look just like as when did "ben" song, but much much older,do not know about hair.
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wow this is starting to remind me of some really weird dreams i had recently when i had a fever! i can actually go with some of these thoughts. but are you talking about skin color also.? i have wondered about different levels of makeup capabilities. it just mostly seems like a really bizarre idea though.sometimes i think this forum gives me an excuse to take a vacation from reality :lol: :oops:
I am guessing yes the skin colour also, hence he will look just like as when did "ben" song, but much much older,do not know about hair.
i can not even put into words what that whole senario would have to imply about the man.
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I don't know about this one.
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didn't someone on here post a couple of times that his best disquise would be to go as himself or something like that?
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ok, just think about this.
If he looks like Michael Jackson with pastic Surgery, long black hair, tiny nose etc he is the most recognisable man in the world, I cannot even think he can hide like this at neverland never leaving, too many staff may talk.
But if he now looks like one of his brothers, natural, he can go out with his brothers, nobody look too hard, they expect to see that brother WITH DIFFERENT BROTHER OF WHICH MICHAEL TAKE HIS PLACE.
Means that he can see his children (visit by "uncle to them) and his mother and go out if he like with sunglasses on and everyone think it is the "other" Jackson brother.Even visit some of his closest friends (who may also be friends with other jackson brother)
This makes far more sense to me.
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IDK, no disrespect intended, I know everyone is trying to dig deep to find answers but I really think this is grasping at straws. All of the Jackson brothers are very well known so to suggest that Michael is taking the place of one of them just seems a little far fetched to me. Just my opinion.
Love and Blessings
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everyone one of the brothers current looks seems to follow a natural progression as to how they might look now.the only way this could be possible is if the twin was always there and not noticed and this all happened.besides if he looked like mike he would look like mike and still me recognized. he's been in the public eye for almost 45 years .besides micheal was the easiest to look at always. the closest was randy and well it didn't seem to pan out for him.
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IDK, no disrespect intended, I know everyone is trying to dig deep to find answers but I really think this is grasping at straws. All of the Jackson brothers are very well known so to suggest that Michael is taking the place of one of them just seems a little far fetched to me. Just my opinion.
Love and Blessings
You misunderstand me, I don't mean that he take his place eg live as that brother, just that if three brothers go out, or even if he goes out on his own, and is like Michael Jackson natural, nobody is expecting this and beleive then that it must be one other Jackson brother.
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ok I was looking at photos of Michael's brothers at the funeral
http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-conten ... 346398.jpg (http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/full_michael_jackson_funeral_005_wenn5346398.jpg)
ok, how many brothers are you expecting to see? Yes they are all there.Are you expecting to see Michael there? No of course not.
Now think of what Michael will look like natural and then look at brother second in line from left.
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IDK, no disrespect intended, I know everyone is trying to dig deep to find answers but I really think this is grasping at straws. All of the Jackson brothers are very well known so to suggest that Michael is taking the place of one of them just seems a little far fetched to me. Just my opinion.
Love and Blessings
You misunderstand me, I don't mean that he take his place eg live as that brother, just that if three brothers go out, or even if he goes out on his own, and is like Michael Jackson natural, nobody is expecting this and beleive then that it must be one other Jackson brother.
from strickly a look perspective that might be slightly possible.but we have previously discussed micheal uniqueness. i don't want to imply that anything about him is weird or anything but he is going to attract attention . he is undoubtedly different in bahavior. giftedness usually comes with some quirkyness.you can't turn stuff off and on at will. besides if that were so easy he could do it without having to die don't you think.
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by BlackVelvet » Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:31 pm
ok I was looking at photos of Michael's brothers at the funeral
http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-conten (http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-conten) ... 346398.jpg
ok, how many brothers are you expecting to see? Yes they are all there.Are you expecting to see Michael there? No of course not.
Now think of what Michael will look like natural and then look at brother second in line from left.
In this photo the brother that you refer to looks like Jermaine.
Sorry, I did misunderstand you in the previous post. But for what you are saying to work that would mean that for every public appearance, performance, interview, etc., that Michael would have had to wear a lot of prosthetic makeup over the years. I'm not saying that it's impossible but I don't think it would be probable. And regardless of the aging factor I think Michael would be recognizable no matter what. JMO
Love and Blessings
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Sorry, I did misunderstand you in the previous post. But for what you are saying to work that would mean that for every public appearance, performance, interview, etc., that Michael would have had to wear a lot of prosthetic makeup over the years. I'm not saying that it's impossible but I don't think it would be probable. And regardless of the aging factor I think Michael would be recognizable no matter what. JMO
Love and Blessings[/quote]
In a different thread I mentioned Michael Jackson wore a mask and someone said this was because he did not want people to see his face up close due to the makeup he had to wear.
To me it makes more sense that he wear the mask when he relaxes because this is precisely the time he does NOT want the hassell of wearing makeup.
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In a different thread I mentioned Michael Jackson wore a mask and someone said this was because he did not want people to see his face up close due to the makeup he had to wear.
To me it makes more sense that he wear the mask when he relaxes because this is precisely the time he does NOT want the hassell of wearing makeup.
It does make sense to me that Michael may have worn the masks when not in full makeup however the rest of his face, ears, hands, chest were still exposed and were still the lighter color skin. So if what you are stating is true than he would still have been wearing some kind of makeup to cover the darker skin. Which is why I don't think it would be probable.
love and Blessings
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This is something I have been wondering for years, if a majority of the facial changes or skin changes were in fact just make up and stuff like they used in Ghosts and Thriller. I also thought of something really scary last night, and I am hesitant to say it here but please please keep in mind I adore Michael with all my heart, do not believe in snooping around in his personal sex life or any of that stuff, and I dont want to get into the who slept with who mess.....not what this is about.... BUT just for the sake of the hoax there is one idea I don't think any of us have dared to consider. If this is discussed elsewhere and I missed it please forgive me and just ignore this so here goes....
What if our beloved Michael did fool us all and he was one step beyond a gay man? What if Michael Jackson is dead in the sense that his maleness was put to death and he in fact had a sex change!! :shock:
Could there be any possibility of this at all and what then would the legal issues of this as far as death certificates etc....
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Verylittlesusie --> :lol:
*pasting this thread into science fiction folder*
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I have been saying for months that he didn't change that much (since the BAD era I mean, because I do think he has had surgery on the nose, just not as much as we might think). And I do think that the huge changes we have seen the last 10 years was due to the doubles, because if I look at some trial pictures (not all, because there was a double there as well IMO), I still see the same guy as in the BAD era, just a bit older.
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I have been saying for months that he didn't change that much (since the BAD era I mean, because I do think he has had surgery on the nose, just not as much as we might think). And I do think that the huge changes we have seen the last 10 years was due to the doubles, because if I look at some trial pictures (not all, because there was a double there as well IMO), I still see the same guy as in the BAD era, just a bit older.
I think so as well, and if you look at the recent pictures of Janet - they resemble each other so much they could be twins. So he can´t have changed that much.
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The nose was just a stick on over the top of his own nose, with of course cheeks made to look a little wider to cover?
For sure you can make a nose look bigger.
But you can hardly make it smaller.. I mean, the real nose would be under the fake "stick", which wouldn´t make it this slim..
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Michael's hands were almost transparent. No way was that makeup. His skin condition accounted for his light skin color and unless he's putting on buckets of paint, there is no way he will ever go back to the darker tone again. That is impossible.
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Now I've really got into this I just am thinking of different things.
Just suppose that Michael never had plastic surgery and his face now is exactly as it was when he was a young boy, just older in the normal way?
Just suppose that all the plastic surgery he had was a hoax?
The nose was just a stick on over the top of his own nose, with of course cheeks made to look a little wider to cover?
The wide chin just over his own chin?
Then with everyone knowing how he look with the "plastic surgery" he dies then reverts to how he should look?
Nobody is looking for michael jackson older who looks as he should look, he can also blend in with his brothers who do look like him only older (if he had remained the same)
Now also i have seen some video of joe, and i thought that is not joe, it is someone who resembles.
I edit my post it is this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNmWXPUMVQ0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNmWXPUMVQ0)
I have seen video of Joe Jackson who does not sound subdued or shy as in this video, why also the hat to cover and shade facial features?
I discussed with a couple of friends that hypothesis :D as I thought he was wearing "masks" or prosthetic implants as he really looks like Victory/ Thriller era. My friends don´t buy that theory and every one thinks MJ looks as he did during the late years.
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"how he should look" :?: How can we, who are fans, even say such a thing? :o
I know people are trying to think "out of the box" but this is a little bit too much for me... Not bashing anyone just expressing my own opinion. To make a nose look smaller would be quite difficult and there are plenty of photos and videos where one can see the signs of vitiligo.
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Michael's hands were almost transparent. No way was that makeup. His skin condition accounted for his light skin color and unless he's putting on buckets of paint, there is no way he will ever go back to the darker tone again. That is impossible.
i wonder how common it is for vitiligo to progress to the extent that it did with micheal
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Vitiligo can worsen and spread over time and cover a large amount of the body, it's called Universal Vitiligo.
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Michael's hands were almost transparent. No way was that makeup. His skin condition accounted for his light skin color and unless he's putting on buckets of paint, there is no way he will ever go back to the darker tone again. That is impossible.
i wonder how common it is for vitiligo to progress to the extent that it did with micheal
Here is some interesting information about Vitiligo and UVB treatment:
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... 1021375118 (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http://www.huidarts.com/cgi-bin/patinfo.pl%3Fcgifunction%3Dform%26fid%3D1021375118)
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... ion%3Dform (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http://www.huidarts.com/cgi-bin/behandl.pl%3Ffid%3D1021961031%26query%3Dall_search%253D%2526allany%253D%25252Band%25252B%2526pagenum%253D1%2526cgifunction%253DSearch%26cgifunction%3Dform)
What are the results of treatment
UVB (311 nm) treatment results in approximately 93% of vitiligo patients, in whom it is applied to return all or most of the pigment. Normally that is achieved after an intensive treatment two irradiations per week for up to one year.
For now it is medically considered desirable that after years of therapy for at least 3 months to interrupt. Thereafter, further re-treated if necessary.
So there is treatment, but I don't know if it was a possibility for him as well.[/color]
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I had a relative who had this same disease. He turned almost completely pink, and then he died. He had all kinds of other complications with it. I was very young and not much was known about it then. But I do remember him being very kind, yet most of the time, very depressed and isolated.
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I try not to focus on the surgeries that he had, but I have been wondering what he might look like if he still looked the way after the Bad era, or should I say the cutest era ever *sighs in awe*. Sometimes when I look at him, I see a little kid, sooo... :D *smiles for real*.
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Michael's hands were almost transparent. No way was that makeup. His skin condition accounted for his light skin color and unless he's putting on buckets of paint, there is no way he will ever go back to the darker tone again. That is impossible.
i wonder how common it is for vitiligo to progress to the extent that it did with micheal
Here is some interesting information about Vitiligo and UVB treatment:
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... 1021375118 (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http://www.huidarts.com/cgi-bin/patinfo.pl%3Fcgifunction%3Dform%26fid%3D1021375118)
maybe for prince
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... ion%3Dform (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http://www.huidarts.com/cgi-bin/behandl.pl%3Ffid%3D1021961031%26query%3Dall_search%253D%2526allany%253D%25252Band%25252B%2526pagenum%253D1%2526cgifunction%253DSearch%26cgifunction%3Dform)
What are the results of treatment
UVB (311 nm) treatment results in approximately 93% of vitiligo patients, in whom it is applied to return all or most of the pigment. Normally that is achieved after an intensive treatment two irradiations per week for up to one year.
For now it is medically considered desirable that after years of therapy for at least 3 months to interrupt. Thereafter, further re-treated if necessary.
So there is treatment, but I don't know if it was a possibility for him as well.[/color]
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http://myspace.com/realmichaeljackson (http://myspace.com/realmichaeljackson) was erased, but you would have seen how he would have looked the closest. Does anyone have the pictures saved? "The little Michael coming home pictures"
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:ugeek:
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I try not to focus on the surgeries that he had, but I have been wondering what he might look like if he still looked the way after the Bad era, or should I say the cutest era ever *sighs in awe*. Sometimes when I look at him, I see a little kid, sooo... :D *smiles for real*.
Um, that's what Souza said earlier in the thread, he DOES look the same as the Bad era- just look at these pics: http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=8979&hilit=+issue I never believed that he had as much "surgery" as the media and journalists or whoever has claimed..
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I would like to know, not for any reason other than curiosity, how MJ got the cleft made in his chin- what kind of operation?
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I also think it could have just been a disguise of sorts. Although, I'm not sure. But Eminem said something interesting in an interview where he apologized for talking about MJ in his songs & revealed that he was a huge fan. He seemed to understand MJ a bit. & he referred the the plastic surgery as a "plastic surgery mask". I know some people aren't fond of Eminem, I didn't use to be either. But he is aware & has woken up. He understood MJ & his genius & what he had to endure. So who knows, what else he feels & knows about MJ. Could be a possibility it was like a mask.
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I'm just gonna throw this out there. We don't know exactly what MJ looks lilke and I think that is by design. People didn't believe him when he talked about what kind of surgeries he got. Even now, there is much talk about extensive surgeries even though he has denied this til he is blue in the face. It seems as though although tabloid trash is bashed, it is also believed. Human nature? I'm in agreement with those who say that MJ has not really changed much in all these years. One love
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Maybe he would look like this?
(http://i50.tinypic.com/o59kqq.jpg)
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Maybe he would look like this?
(http://i50.tinypic.com/o59kqq.jpg)
Is this one of the computer generated aging pics? I have seen many on the net. This one seems more realistic.
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Jill..
I dont know if its an aging pic or if someone photoshopped it. But without the vitiligo and "work", then this is probably what he would look like.... Still a hottie!! LOL
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Maybe he would look like this?
(http://i50.tinypic.com/o59kqq.jpg)
you are scary
know why
because i don't know wether to ask;
how did you do that
or
where did you get that
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
typical american didn't read the details
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Maybe he would look like this?
(http://i50.tinypic.com/o59kqq.jpg)
you are scary
know why
because i don't know wether to ask;
how did you do that
or
where did you get that
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
I think it was posted here previously....it freaked me out too.
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Yeah that thought ran through my mind as well. Not so much to look like he did but rather improve on things.
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I also think it could have just been a disguise of sorts. Although, I'm not sure. But Eminem said something interesting in an interview where he apologized for talking about MJ in his songs & revealed that he was a huge fan. He seemed to understand MJ a bit. & he referred the the plastic surgery as a "plastic surgery mask". I know some people aren't fond of Eminem, I didn't use to be either. But he is aware & has woken up. He understood MJ & his genius & what he had to endure. So who knows, what else he feels & knows about MJ. Could be a possibility it was like a mask.
I think the term "plastic surgery mask" is not referring to a real mask, but in the way that the plastic surgery itself is like a mask - like if someone (not MJ, just in general) doesn´t like himself/wants to hide/whatever reason, gets plastic surgery to be "someone else". So in this case the person looks different, but is the same person inside; so it´s like wearing a (permanent) mask.
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I try not to focus on the surgeries that he had, but I have been wondering what he might look like if he still looked the way after the Bad era, or should I say the cutest era ever *sighs in awe*. Sometimes when I look at him, I see a little kid, sooo... :D *smiles for real*.
Um, that's what Souza said earlier in the thread, he DOES look the same as the Bad era- just look at these pics: http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=8979&hilit=+issue I never believed that he had as much "surgery" as the media and journalists or whoever has claimed..
Yup, he does look the same. Except older, your face changes a little as you age. But he does look the same :mrgreen:
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Maybe he would look like this?
(http://i50.tinypic.com/o59kqq.jpg)
Is this one of the computer generated aging pics? I have seen many on the net. This one seems more realistic.
wow...
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:shock: that is amazing. I even see some vitiligo on that picture. That is freaking amazing :shock: I think I've seen this dude :lol: :lol: