Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => Michael's Life & Clues He Left Us => Michael's Notes, Handwriting & Signatures => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on June 04, 2010, 02:17:35 AM

Title: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 04, 2010, 02:17:35 AM
Looking at the video of Lisa Burks visit to Forest Lawn..........and of course she uses Stevie Wonder song that was played at the memorial.............but look what I found :o  :o  :o    This can't be a message to Michael......It's a message from Michael to us...............What do you think???

It is amongst all the floral arrangements and letters sent from the fans.
It doesn't make sense that a fan would send a card "Thinking of you" Always...I love you more...MJ.   Patience.
[youtube:1d3dmb78]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybw_n5IEn2E&playnext_from=TL&videos=rCDMdkI7INY[/youtube:1d3dmb78]
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...OMG
Post by: BabyShine on June 04, 2010, 02:32:34 AM
Hmmmm...I really don't know, it could be, but it could also make sense that a fan writes " thinking of you, i love you more MJ...Patience"...She/he just says she/he loves him, and with "patience she/he might means "justice will be done"...
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...OMG
Post by: Hazzely on June 04, 2010, 02:40:54 AM
Quote from: "BabyShine"
Hmmmm...I really don't know, it could be, but it could also make sense that a fan writes " thinking of you, i love you more MJ...Patience"...She/he just says she/he loves him, and with "patience she/he might means "justice will be done"...

I believe the same, unfotunately..wished it really was from him..
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Good Lets Dance on June 04, 2010, 03:20:56 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Looking at the video of Lisa Burks visit to Forest Lawn..........and of course she uses Stevie Wonder song that was played at the memorial.............but look what I found :o  :o  :o    This can't be a message to Michael......It's a message from Michael to us...............What do you think???

It is amongst all the floral arrangements and letters sent from the fans.
It doesn't make sense that a fan would send a card "Thinking of you" Always...I love you more...MJ.   Patience.
[youtube:1le8lq9n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybw_n5IEn2E&playnext_from=TL&videos=rCDMdkI7INY[/youtube:1le8lq9n]

That is her name...."Patience"..that's why it's signed at the bottom of the note. I know it's an unusual name, maybe you have never heard it before, but it is a female name.
Excuse me for saying so, but you all are really grasping at straws sometimes. (Why don't you put all this effort into going after who really murdered MJ?)
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 04, 2010, 03:49:11 AM
Good Lets Dance.........do you think MJ was murdered???  No disrepect, but the last time I checked, this is a  death hoax forum.  Not a murder investigation.  

That's the FBI's job.  I have an open mind, so as an investigator, I must look at every possible clue.  We have all been drawing at "straws" for the last 11 months.

What about the music choice on the youtube video.  TMZ reports that Stevie Wonder was at Forest Lawn yesterday and Lisa Burks (Gravehunter) decides to use his song from the memorial.

Do you really know what happenned that day???????   I surely don't, but I do believe Michael is alive, and that he likes to leave us clues to support that, in every possible way.  Don't lose the faith so soon.  As always, with L.O.V.E  and respect  xoxo
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Michaelangela on June 04, 2010, 03:55:55 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Good Lets Dance.........do you think MJ was murdered???  No disrepect, but the last time I checked, this is a  death hoax forum.  Not a murder investigation.  

That's the FBI's job.  I have an open mind, so as an investigator, I must look at every possible clue.  We have all been drawing at "straws" for the last 11 months.

What about the music choice on the youtube video.  TMZ reports that Stevie Wonder was at Forest Lawn yesterday and Lisa Burks (Gravehunter) decides to use his song from the memorial.

Do you really know what happenned that day???????   I surely don't, but I do believe Michael is alive, and that he likes to leave us clues to support that, in every possible way.  Don't lose the faith so soon.  As always, with L.O.V.E  and respect  xoxo


Agree with you.
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Disco on June 04, 2010, 04:23:34 AM
Quote from: "Good Lets Dance"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Looking at the video of Lisa Burks visit to Forest Lawn..........and of course she uses Stevie Wonder song that was played at the memorial.............but look what I found :o  :o  :o    This can't be a message to Michael......It's a message from Michael to us...............What do you think???

It is amongst all the floral arrangements and letters sent from the fans.
It doesn't make sense that a fan would send a card "Thinking of you" Always...I love you more...MJ.   Patience.
[youtube:2t9s5unc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybw_n5IEn2E&playnext_from=TL&videos=rCDMdkI7INY[/youtube:2t9s5unc]

That is her name...."Patience"..that's why it's signed at the bottom of the note. I know it's an unusual name, maybe you have never heard it before, but it is a female name.
Excuse me for saying so, but you all are really grasping at straws sometimes. (Why don't you put all this effort into going after who really murdered MJ?)

Well you just give us the evidence & I'm sure that won't be a problem, getting a bit tired of been told what I should or shouldn't do by fellow fans, I respect your view that Michael may have been murdered & I ask you to respect mine, I Believe........
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Good Lets Dance on June 04, 2010, 04:25:12 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Good Lets Dance.........do you think MJ was murdered???  No disrepect, but the last time I checked, this is a  death hoax forum.  Not a murder investigation.  

That's the FBI's job.  I have an open mind, so as an investigator, I must look at every possible clue.  We have all been drawing at "straws" for the last 11 months.

What about the music choice on the youtube video.  TMZ reports that Stevie Wonder was at Forest Lawn yesterday and Lisa Burks (Gravehunter) decides to use his song from the memorial.

Do you really know what happenned that day???????   I surely don't, but I do believe Michael is alive, and that he likes to leave us clues to support that, in every possible way.  Don't lose the faith so soon.  As always, with L.O.V.E  and respect  xoxo

2goodtbtrue....Yes, I am sorry to say I don't THINK he was murdered, I KNOW he was Murdered (and I wish I was wrong) I wanted to be in denial which brought me to this (original) site shortly after 6/25. After he was declared dead of "cardiac arrest", I immediately told my long time friend " he was murdered, it was pre-meditated, it was for financial reasons, I just somehow am knowing this" Well; You know how long it took for the second autopsy (3 mos?) to come out and say it was Homicide? That day my friend called me during the evening news and said "Oh, MJ's death has been changed to Homicide from Cardiac Arrest", and I said "I already told you back when he died it was Homicide, What you didn't believe me???" This freaked my friend out to the point our relationship ended. I am not going into all of this here but I had a premonition approx. 2 weeks prior to 6/25 and so did lots of other people around the world. I have only had psychic impressions (and No I don't consider myself a Psychic) 3 other times in my life and it was always about Bad/morbid/death type things. MJ was Owned by the music business and classified as an "underperforming/undervalued asset". How long could he really fend off these vultures? They (AEG) had pre-invested in him heavily and he was being flakey, tring to get out of the concerts (with P. Lopez help) and I think the vultures decided the only way to make back their money on him was to make him a Dead Icon- Legend, Which did bring in millions in music sales paying off all his debts and suits (250 million to Bank of America alone!) and now that everything is paid off it's all pure Profit! Would this have happened if he stayed alive? NO! He was not in prime physical condition to do this 3 Yr. venue they had planned for him, and THEY KNEW he was not up to it! So like they say "Follow the Money".....
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 04, 2010, 05:02:35 AM
Good Lets Dance....Thanks for that post....I agree with you about the murder theory, and most of the time, the evidence keeps pointing towards this.  I have some physic abilities too (sometimes I wish I hadn't though) but something just doesn't seem right about all this.....that's what keeps me coming back, hoping that someone or something will prove this to be wrong.

I've also spent many hours investigating the people that surrounded Michael, and can see that most of them could not be trusted and were in it for the money.  A part of me knows MJ was murdered, but then  :(
a part of me hopes that he was able to get away before they actually "really killed him" and that Murray was hired by the CIA to be part of this fake death.  That way they can catch the bastards in action.......that's what I pray for.   :)
That's why I'm still here.  I hope MJ planned a getaway in time, if not, then I'll do everything possible to help fight for Justice and do what I can to help get those murderers put away for life.   I swear...Even from Australia  xoxo :D
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Lady J on June 04, 2010, 05:10:47 AM
No it´s not a message from mike to us. This is a fan who posts in the www.mjj2005.com (http://www.mjj2005.com) board. She has these flowers in her signature.
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Good Lets Dance on June 04, 2010, 05:41:42 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Good Lets Dance....Thanks for that post....I agree with you about the murder theory, and most of the time, the evidence keeps pointing towards this.  I have some physic abilities too (sometimes I wish I hadn't though) but someting just doesn't seem right about all this.....that's what keeps me coming back, hoping that someone or something will prove this to be wrong.

I've also spent many hours investigating the people that surrounded Michael, and can see that most of them could not be trusted and were in it for the money.  A part of me knows MJ was murdered, but then  :(
a part of me hopes that he was able to get away before they actually "really killed him" and that Murray was hired by the CIA to be part of this fake death.  That way they can catch the bastards in action.......that's what I pray for.   :)
That's why I'm still here.  I hope MJ planned a getaway in time, if not, then I'll do everything possible to help fight for Justice and do what I can to help get those murderers put away for life.   I swear...Even from Australia  xoxo :D

2good2btrue....Wow, you really live up to your handle, lol (I'm sorry :P ) "Murray was hired by the *see-eye-a* to be part of MJ's "Fake" death?  What would be the see-eye-a's reason for wanting to keep MJ alive? If they are involved you better believe he Is DEAD for sure, lol! What is the advantage of MJ being alive? Let's look at this realistically, ok? MJ was not producing any income (cash flow) for the last 12 years or so, right? So what was he living on? I read a report last year that he was being "fronted" 720K per month, but consistantly went over that to about 2 million a month (plus) That means it cost about 25 million a Yr. to be MJ. Now Where was this coming from? He was mortagaged to the hilt on the Music Catalogue (in other words borrrowing against it for living) so if he did not pay it back, Sony would own it!

Neverland was in Foreclosure, and so was Havenhurst (which he was responsible for) with about a 2.2 million mortgage still. Now, I agree *Something Doesn't Seem Right* like you said, and I detected it too! Only differance between us is I guess is I see "Murder" solves all the financial problems. If MJ is still Alive as you believe... What is he living on? Cause let's face it, He is a High Maintenance Guy, requiring lavish living quarters, on-going Dermatology & Cosmetic Surgery attention, plus other medical attention (Lupus, Dental, etc.) So do you think he just decided to become a "Homeless" person and live on the street somewhere, giving up the luxurious sustenance he is accustom to or what?
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Good Lets Dance on June 04, 2010, 07:01:33 AM
Quote from: "Disco"
Quote from: "Good Lets Dance"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Looking at the video of Lisa Burks visit to Forest Lawn..........and of course she uses Stevie Wonder song that was played at the memorial.............but look what I found :o  :o  :o    This can't be a message to Michael......It's a message from Michael to us...............What do you think???

It is amongst all the floral arrangements and letters sent from the fans.
It doesn't make sense that a fan would send a card "Thinking of you" Always...I love you more...MJ.   Patience.
[youtube:11ejlahj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybw_n5IEn2E&playnext_from=TL&videos=rCDMdkI7INY[/youtube:11ejlahj]

That is her name...."Patience"..that's why it's signed at the bottom of the note. I know it's an unusual name, maybe you have never heard it before, but it is a female name.
Excuse me for saying so, but you all are really grasping at straws sometimes. (Why don't you put all this effort into going after who really murdered MJ?)

Well you just give us the evidence & I'm sure that won't be a problem, getting a bit tired of been told what I should or shouldn't do by fellow fans, I respect your view that Michael may have been murdered & I ask you to respect mine, I Believe........


Hey Disco,

You "just give me the evidence" then,(that he's alive) ok? I'm not telling you "What to do" at all! I never said I did not respect your view - Where did you see I said that? I will make a Blanket statement here and now, ok?  Here It Is..

FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO KEEP THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND LIKE AN OSTRICH - SO BE IT!
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Hazzely on June 04, 2010, 11:16:05 AM
Why the heck can't they tell us to stop this! If they wanted to I guess they could close hoax forums if they considered it was disrespectful! WHY noone says we have to stop this because he is gone? Someone tell me!! WHY they want us to keep believing if this is not a hoax!  :cry:
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 04, 2010, 07:28:44 PM
Hazzely, thankyou.  

Back to what is important....the video I posted.  Seems odd that Stevie Wonders song was used this time.....As always, with L.O.V.E xoxo
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: rag doll on June 04, 2010, 11:53:33 PM
Patience.... a sublime virtue but hard sometimes.  :)
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Good Lets Dance on June 06, 2010, 10:45:03 PM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Why the heck can't they tell us to stop this! If they wanted to I guess they could close hoax forums if they considered it was disrespectful! WHY noone says we have to stop this because he is gone? Someone tell me!! WHY they want us to keep believing if this is not a hoax!  :cry:

I don't know who is the "They" you are referring to? So I will assume you are referring to the Usual suspects. As long as "They" can get you to believe he's still alive (a hoax) then you will Not demand that his murderers be flushed out and prosecuted. (You play right into their hands, thus Not demanding justice and accountability for his death)

This whole Hoax thing could have been initiated by those responsible for his demise to create doubt and help in getting a/the murderers off the hook. Have you ever considered this?
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Hazzely on June 07, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
Quote from: "Good Lets Dance"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Why the heck can't they tell us to stop this! If they wanted to I guess they could close hoax forums if they considered it was disrespectful! WHY noone says we have to stop this because he is gone? Someone tell me!! WHY they want us to keep believing if this is not a hoax!  :cry:

I don't know who is the "They" you are referring to? So I will assume you are referring to the Usual suspects. As long as "They" can get you to believe he's still alive (a hoax) then you will Not demand that his murderers be flushed out and prosecuted. (You play right into their hands, thus Not demanding justice and accountability for his death)

This whole Hoax thing could have been initiated by those responsible for his demise to create doubt and help in getting a/the murderers off the hook. Have you ever considered this?

No im refering to the Jacksons. Since they didnt tell us to stop this i'll take it as a "he's alive, keep investigating".

So are u telling me that you believe he's dead and that the ones responsible for it are giving us "clues" to believe in the hoax? What I believe is not that they are giving clues but that there are many things which don't fit. They make no sense at all, many weird things going on, not signs.
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: dom on June 07, 2010, 07:53:44 PM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "Good Lets Dance"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Why the heck can't they tell us to stop this! If they wanted to I guess they could close hoax forums if they considered it was disrespectful! WHY noone says we have to stop this because he is gone? Someone tell me!! WHY they want us to keep believing if this is not a hoax!  :cry:

I don't know who is the "They" you are referring to? So I will assume you are referring to the Usual suspects. As long as "They" can get you to believe he's still alive (a hoax) then you will Not demand that his murderers be flushed out and prosecuted. (You play right into their hands, thus Not demanding justice and accountability for his death)

This whole Hoax thing could have been initiated by those responsible for his demise to create doubt and help in getting a/the murderers off the hook. Have you ever considered this?

No im refering to the Jacksons. Since they didnt tell us to stop this i'll take it as a "he's alive, keep investigating".





So are u telling me that you believe he's dead and that the ones responsible for it are giving us "clues" to believe in the hoax? What I believe is not that they are giving clues but that there are many things which don't fit. They make no sense at all, many weird things going on, not signs.


ok , "lets dance" , im sorry but your kind of annoying me right now- cause it annoys me when fans say "i know hes not alive" or likewise "i know he is alive". im sorry but no fan really "knows" whats going on- the only people who trually "know" are Michael Jackson & Conrad Murray. im sorry but thats the reality of it, & that goes for ALL OF YOU-not just "lets dance"
"lets dance", if you have such a problem with hoax theories then what are you doing on here any way?

but before you go il say that I acknowledge murder is a possibility, but the one thing thats stopping me from being 100% convinced its murder is the family's behaviour- take rebbie's recent interview for example- how many people would refer to their sibling's murder investigation as "very interesting"? she sounded like she was discussing a sports game or something!

the family have more to do than worry about silencing hoax theorists?! oh yeah right!
just a few weeks back they flipped over some publicity whores saying Michael was gay, and they spent all their energy worrying about that. well im sorry but i think the issue of 1000s of fans world wide thinking your brother faked his death would be a heck of a lot more upsetting than some nonsense from 2 nutters who are looking 5 minutes fame

one thing you must acknowledge is that whether  or not we are wrong and Michael was murdered or simply suffered an accidental overdose,the fact is he obviously had an interest in the idea of faking death and "ressurecting"- we seen the theme reoccuring many times in his short films, from thriller right up to TII.not saying this means its a hoax,but just making a point any fan must acknowledge.
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Kirsche on June 08, 2010, 03:45:27 PM
I did a little comparison ( As always) :D

What do you think??

I think it don't really looks exactly like his handwriting...but I wanna see you opinions

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1046/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg/)

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Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: CC on June 08, 2010, 04:27:26 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
I did a little comparison ( As always) :D

What do you think??

I think it don't really looks exactly like his handwriting...but I wanna see you opinions

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1046/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg/)

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 :shock:
the card is on a SUNFLOWER? :roll:
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: new tiux on June 09, 2010, 12:30:14 PM
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
I did a little comparison ( As always) :D

What do you think??

I think it don't really looks exactly like his handwriting...but I wanna see you opinions

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1046/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

 :shock:
the card is on a SUNFLOWER? :roll:
I think "MJ" is written absolutely like he does...specially "J" and I can't see clearly but it seems that R in"more" on postcard is the same as "truth" in letter...with big R in the middle of the word. I must look again... 8-)
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Kirsche on June 09, 2010, 01:07:00 PM
Quote from: "new tiux"
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
I did a little comparison ( As always) :D

What do you think??

I think it don't really looks exactly like his handwriting...but I wanna see you opinions

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1046/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

 :shock:
the card is on a SUNFLOWER? :roll:
I think "MJ" is written absolutely like he does...specially "J" and I can't see clearly but it seems that R in"more" on postcard is the same as "truth" in letter...with big R in the middle of the word. I must look again... 8-)


yeah the "R" on that card is really hard to recognize :(.  Who photographed this card and why especially this card???hm...it's really hard to say...I don't know how old this message written by him is I found on the net...I thought about it and sometimes, when you get older, your handwriting changes a little bit... Yes it HAS resemblances with MJ's handwriting, but not 100% percent....otherwise...why did the person write "patience" on that card? It doesn't make sense.....Patience for what, if MJ's  really gone?
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Hazzely on June 09, 2010, 01:22:09 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "new tiux"
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
I did a little comparison ( As always) :D

What do you think??

I think it don't really looks exactly like his handwriting...but I wanna see you opinions

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1046/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

 :shock:
the card is on a SUNFLOWER? :roll:
I think "MJ" is written absolutely like he does...specially "J" and I can't see clearly but it seems that R in"more" on postcard is the same as "truth" in letter...with big R in the middle of the word. I must look again... 8-)


yeah the "R" on that card is really hard to recognize :(.  Who photographed this card and why especially this card???hm...it's really hard to say...I don't know how old this message written by him is I found on the net...I thought about it and sometimes, when you get older, your handwriting changes a little bit... Yes it HAS resemblances with MJ's handwriting, but not 100% percent....otherwise...why did the person write "patience" on that card? It doesn't make sense.....Patience for what, if MJ's  really gone?

I heard Patience was the name of the girl who left this card. I think there is no mystery here..it's just a random fan postal
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Kirsche on June 09, 2010, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "new tiux"
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
I did a little comparison ( As always) :D

What do you think??

I think it don't really looks exactly like his handwriting...but I wanna see you opinions

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1046/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/flcardmjhandwritingcomp.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

 :shock:
the card is on a SUNFLOWER? :roll:
I think "MJ" is written absolutely like he does...specially "J" and I can't see clearly but it seems that R in"more" on postcard is the same as "truth" in letter...with big R in the middle of the word. I must look again... 8-)


yeah the "R" on that card is really hard to recognize :(.  Who photographed this card and why especially this card???hm...it's really hard to say...I don't know how old this message written by him is I found on the net...I thought about it and sometimes, when you get older, your handwriting changes a little bit... Yes it HAS resemblances with MJ's handwriting, but not 100% percent....otherwise...why did the person write "patience" on that card? It doesn't make sense.....Patience for what, if MJ's  really gone?

I heard Patience was the name of the girl who left this card. I think there is no mystery here..it's just a random fan postal


Oh, okay.....never knew that  Patience is a name  :oops:
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: wishingstar on June 09, 2010, 02:57:45 PM
Ok, I am officially nuts.....can't seem to stop plugging into gematria.......
just one more......
73 = patience = Jackson
I know it's not the most popular thing.....this gematria stuff.....but it's so funny to see.
As always, with L.O.V.E.

PS.... Gematria is basically adding the number values within a word: a=1, b=2 etc.....
I did a thread called, "Coincidences...?"  It's just been funny to see...
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Good Lets Dance on June 10, 2010, 01:02:21 AM
Quote from: "dom"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "Good Lets Dance"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Why the heck can't they tell us to stop this! If they wanted to I guess they could close hoax forums if they considered it was disrespectful! WHY noone says we have to stop this because he is gone? Someone tell me!! WHY they want us to keep believing if this is not a hoax!  :cry:

I don't know who is the "They" you are referring to? So I will assume you are referring to the Usual suspects. As long as "They" can get you to believe he's still alive (a hoax) then you will Not demand that his murderers be flushed out and prosecuted. (You play right into their hands, thus Not demanding justice and accountability for his death)

This whole Hoax thing could have been initiated by those responsible for his demise to create doubt and help in getting a/the murderers off the hook. Have you ever considered this?

No im refering to the Jacksons. Since they didnt tell us to stop this i'll take it as a "he's alive, keep investigating".

To Hazzely--The Jackson's are getting publicity here, so why would they want it to stop? I think they are exploiting this situation for their own benefit, as the attention will not last forever. Nothing would make me happier than to have MJ pop up alive, so hope you are right :)




So are u telling me that you believe he's dead and that the ones responsible for it are giving us "clues" to believe in the hoax? What I believe is not that they are giving clues but that there are many things which don't fit. They make no sense at all, many weird things going on, not signs.


ok , "lets dance" , im sorry but your kind of annoying me right now- cause it annoys me when fans say "i know hes not alive" or likewise "i know he is alive". im sorry but no fan really "knows" whats going on- the only people who trually "know" are Michael Jackson & Conrad Murray. im sorry but thats the reality of it, & that goes for ALL OF YOU-not just "lets dance"
"lets dance", if you have such a problem with hoax theories then what are you doing on here any way?

but before you go il say that I acknowledge murder is a possibility, but the one thing thats stopping me from being 100% convinced its murder is the family's behaviour- take rebbie's recent interview for example- how many people would refer to their sibling's murder investigation as "very interesting"? she sounded like she was discussing a sports game or something!

the family have more to do than worry about silencing hoax theorists?! oh yeah right!
just a few weeks back they flipped over some publicity whores saying Michael was gay, and they spent all their energy worrying about that. well im sorry but i think the issue of 1000s of fans world wide thinking your brother faked his death would be a heck of a lot more upsetting than some nonsense from 2 nutters who are looking 5 minutes fame

one thing you must acknowledge is that whether  or not we are wrong and Michael was murdered or simply suffered an accidental overdose,the fact is he obviously had an interest in the idea of faking death and "ressurecting"- we seen the theme reoccuring many times in his short films, from thriller right up to TII.not saying this means its a hoax,but just making a point any fan must acknowledge.

Dom - Sorry to annoy you. As to you citing the families behavior as reason's for a hoax; I feel they are manipulating and exploiting for their own benefit. It certainly keeps your attention on them. Rebbie's statement is doing what it's designed to do - Put HER in the spot light. They are going to milk this for all it's worth cause they know it won't last forever. As for Why am I on Here? There is a "Murder Theory" listed on here, but it's really not a "Theory" cause that IS the finding of the Medical Examiner. I hope you are right, I don't Want him to dead, I will be over joyed if this is all a hoax. But Dead or Alive there is some type of serious DECEPTION going on for sure!
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: neversaynever on June 14, 2010, 03:39:47 PM
Someone from MJHD has taken the picture of the note along with other samples to an expert. And the Thank You note appears to be his handwriting!
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: ladylee1979 on June 14, 2010, 04:15:25 PM
have PATIENCE! all will be revealed
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: CC on June 14, 2010, 04:31:37 PM
Quote from: "neversaynever"
Someone from MJHD has taken the picture of the note along with other samples to an expert. And the Thank You note appears to be his handwriting!
:shock:  :o
REALLY???
I HOPE THAT´S TRUE... I´M SEARCHING SOMEONE ON MY COUNTRY WHO DO THIS THINGS, I´LL LET YOU KNOW!!! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: truthseeker on June 14, 2010, 06:47:52 PM
Delete
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: traceys_home on June 15, 2010, 12:49:29 AM
Quote from: "dom"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Quote from: "Good Lets Dance"
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Why the heck can't they tell us to stop this! If they wanted to I guess they could close hoax forums if they considered it was disrespectful! WHY noone says we have to stop this because he is gone? Someone tell me!! WHY they want us to keep believing if this is not a hoax!  :cry:

I don't know who is the "They" you are referring to? So I will assume you are referring to the Usual suspects. As long as "They" can get you to believe he's still alive (a hoax) then you will Not demand that his murderers be flushed out and prosecuted. (You play right into their hands, thus Not demanding justice and accountability for his death)

This whole Hoax thing could have been initiated by those responsible for his demise to create doubt and help in getting a/the murderers off the hook. Have you ever considered this?

No im refering to the Jacksons. Since they didnt tell us to stop this i'll take it as a "he's alive, keep investigating".





So are u telling me that you believe he's dead and that the ones responsible for it are giving us "clues" to believe in the hoax? What I believe is not that they are giving clues but that there are many things which don't fit. They make no sense at all, many weird things going on, not signs.


ok , "lets dance" , im sorry but your kind of annoying me right now- cause it annoys me when fans say "i know hes not alive" or likewise "i know he is alive". im sorry but no fan really "knows" whats going on- the only people who trually "know" are Michael Jackson & Conrad Murray. im sorry but thats the reality of it, & that goes for ALL OF YOU-not just "lets dance"
"lets dance", if you have such a problem with hoax theories then what are you doing on here any way?

but before you go il say that I acknowledge murder is a possibility, but the one thing thats stopping me from being 100% convinced its murder is the family's behaviour- take rebbie's recent interview for example- how many people would refer to their sibling's murder investigation as "very interesting"? she sounded like she was discussing a sports game or something!

the family have more to do than worry about silencing hoax theorists?! oh yeah right!
just a few weeks back they flipped over some publicity whores saying Michael was gay, and they spent all their energy worrying about that. well im sorry but i think the issue of 1000s of fans world wide thinking your brother faked his death would be a heck of a lot more upsetting than some nonsense from 2 nutters who are looking 5 minutes fame

one thing you must acknowledge is that whether  or not we are wrong and Michael was murdered or simply suffered an accidental overdose,the fact is he obviously had an interest in the idea of faking death and "ressurecting"- we seen the theme reoccuring many times in his short films, from thriller right up to TII.not saying this means its a hoax,but just making a point any fan must acknowledge.

Well said Dom!
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: traceys_home on June 15, 2010, 12:58:51 AM
Quote from: "neversaynever"
Someone from MJHD has taken the picture of the note along with other samples to an expert. And the Thank You note appears to be his handwriting!

Absolutely is his handwriting! Most of the MJ signatures you see aren't his to begin with. Mico Brando used to sign MJ's name for him. This has gone on every since the Bad Tour. It's also the reason why the Will is invalid...MJJ isn't the one who signed it. Wake up guys...at this point, it doesn't matter when MJ is coming back if he comes back period...what does matter is that we all do our part and if you don't kno what your part is then ask.

I know it all sounds crazy, but it's very true. My brother toured with MJJ on the Bad Tour...he's the rhythm guitarist Jon Clark.

Everyone here please just continue to spread Michael's message...there's so much we all do not know and a lot that some of us do, but like I said, please spread the L.O.V.E!
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 15, 2010, 04:28:41 AM
Thanks wishingstar, that is weird...   I know that people think I'm drawing at straws too, but when I saw that particular card, my initial feeling was that it wasn't meant to be from a fan......my instincts are usually right.  AS always with L.O.V.E  xoxo
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: CC on June 15, 2010, 08:30:10 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Thanks wishingstar, that is weird...   I know that people think I'm drawing at straws too, but when I saw that particular card, my initial feeling was that it wasn't meant to be from a fan......my instincts are usually right.  AS always with L.O.V.E  xoxo

I FEEL THE SAME... WHEN I SAW THAT CARD :shock:  IS FROM HIM!!! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: MJonmind on June 15, 2010, 11:56:31 AM
There is the possibility that both the LMP and Patience cards are old, from before June 25. They don't really prove anything unless they had current info or dates on them.
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Delia on June 15, 2010, 04:51:18 PM
There they are and this is important -the place not the date.
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: Hazzely on June 15, 2010, 04:59:25 PM
Quote from: "wishingstar"
Ok, I am officially nuts.....can't seem to stop plugging into gematria.......
just one more......
73 = patience = Jackson
I know it's not the most popular thing.....this gematria stuff.....but it's so funny to see.
As always, with L.O.V.E.

PS.... Gematria is basically adding the number values within a word: a=1, b=2 etc.....
I did a thread called, "Coincidences...?"  It's just been funny to see...

hahaha This cracks me up, really
Gematria is indeed some weird site, I was shocked when I started looking up for references, names, places, dates and random things..I still remember this. I was SO FREAKED OUT!  :shock:  
I STILL CAN'T THINK OF AN EXPLANATION!


Quote from: "Hazzely"
You thought you've seen it all? Well not really, have a look:

King Of Pop = Death Is False, Dom Sheldon -(keep this in mind!)-, Deaths Door, This Site, Child Sacrifice, Finagles Law -(known as Murphy's Law)-, Wouldn't, Necessary, Swine Flu, Quietly, Convenience          --> This is not a joke I didn't make this up!

London O2 Arena = Crush, Heart Broken, Rise And Shine, I Am Unafraid, Pastor, Earth Song, Brotherhood, Seven Of Nine, Null And Void, Smart Casual, Life Is All False, Deaths Is False, Takin Me Higher  (give in to me?  :lol: ), Rockin Robin

Coroner = Shelter (in the coroner's van?), A No Brainer, Elizabeth, Captured, California, Agreement, Ghosts

Jackson House = Transport, Reincarnation, Hit The Target, End Of Story, Well Call You, Straight As A Die

California Medical Board = Source, Consciousness, Seventy Seven, Ancient Archeology, Lend Me Your Ears, World Cup Soccer, Transcending Time, We Band Of Brothers, It Looks Like A Scam (creepy), Man In The Mirror, She Drives Me Wild, Another Part Of Me


I searched for info about Dom Sheldon, and the first thing that pop'd up was: D.S (song) -Wikipedia-

"D.S." is an album track by Michael Jackson from his 1995 double disc record HIStory. It is track six on the second disc, one of the three songs from that disc whose lyrics are printed in the album booklet, and is four minutes and forty-nine seconds in length. The song is often cited as a derogatory reference to Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon, whose name is similar to the subject of the song, Dom Sheldon. When Jackson was accused of child sexual abuse in 1993, the investigation was controlled by Sneddon, who also ordered that Jackson be strip searched. The criminal investigation was subsequently closed due to lack of evidence and Jackson was not charged with a crime. Jackson was angered by the allegations, his perception of being mistreated by the police and media, and the negative effect on his health.
Shortly afterwards, he began work on HIStory. The track "D.S." is written, composed and produced by Jackson and includes a guitar solo by Slash. It is a rock song that conveys themes such as bitterness, isolation and paranoia much like the rest of the album. There was no major critical analysis of the song from mainstream reviews when HIStory was issued, but the song's connection to Tom Sneddon was widely reported in the media. Jackson was subsequently involved in projects that made coded references to Sneddon and the 1993 investigation.
Jackson was the subject of another child sexual abuse allegation in 2003, with the investigation and 2005 trial prosecution again led by Sneddon. These repeated investigations and derogatory comments made against Jackson have led to allegations that Sneddon had, or appeared to have, a "vendetta" against the singer. Fans of the entertainer sang "D.S." outside the court house of Jackson's 2005 trial every day.


LYRICS:    ---> GET READY!!! This is so damn CREEPY!! WOW


They wanna get my ass
Dead or alive
You know he really tried to take me
Down by surprise
I bet he missioned with the CIA
He don't do half what he say

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

He out shock in every single way
He'll stop at nothing just to get his political say
He think he hot cause he's BSTA
I bet he never had a social life anyway

You think he brother with the KKK?
I bet his mother never taught him
right anyway
He want your vote just to remain TA.
He don't do half what he say

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Donas Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Does he send letters to the FBI?
Did he say to either do it or die?

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Donas Standdon is a cold man

Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man
Don Standdon is a cold man

Donas Standdon is a cold man


[youtube:2vkvx8ta]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-lYy0QZfE[/youtube:2vkvx8ta]


Finagles Law -(known as Murphy's Law)-

It is found that anything that can go wrong at sea generally does go wrong sooner or later, so it is not to be wondered that owners prefer the safe to the scientific.... Sufficient stress can hardly be laid on the advantages of simplicity. The human factor cannot be safely neglected in planning machinery. If attention is to be obtained, the engine must be such that the engineer will be disposed to attend to it.
American Dialect Society member Bill Mullins has found a slightly broader version of the aphorism in reference to stage magic. The British stage magician Nevil Maskelyne wrote in 1908:
It is an experience common to all men to find that, on any special occasion, such as the production of a magical effect for the first time in public, everything that can go wrong will go wrong. Whether we must attribute this to the malignity of matter or to the total depravity of inanimate things, whether the exciting cause is hurry, worry, or what not, the fact remains.
Murphy's law emerged in its most modern form no later than 1952, as an epigraph to a mountaineering book by Jack Sack, who described it as an "ancient mountaineering adage":
Anything that can possibly go wrong, does.
Title: Re: Is this a written message from Michael to us...
Post by: turrican3 on July 06, 2010, 06:27:10 PM
nobody tries to contact the sunflower seller ?
To know if he really receive this not ?
Just to be sure that tmz is not playing with us.
I tried to ask by mail but no answers.....
If someone could give him a call.
LMP has a twitter account ? Perhaps we should ask her ?
Ask her if she send a note
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