Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: Tina K. on May 30, 2010, 03:17:49 AM
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MJ Mausoleum -- Fans No Longer Welcome
Originally posted 20 minutes ago by TMZ Staff
The cemetery where Michael Jackson is entombed is launching a new crackdown on fans -- actively removing people hanging out in front of MJ's mausoleum.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/05/28/0528-michael-jackson-tomb-npg-getty-credit.jpg)
According to sources at Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale, security has been informed that MJ fans are no longer permitted to gather on the patio of MJ's mausoleum. Those who loiter will be asked to leave.
It's unclear why Forest Lawn is making the move -- especially because fans have been visiting the burial site regularly since MJ moved in last year.
And now -- with the one-year anniversary of Michael's death fast approaching -- the Justice4MJ fan group is concerned about their plans to gather at the mausoleum on June 25.
A rep for the group tells us they hope Forest Lawn will "take into consideration" the hundreds of fans traveling from all over the world to pay their respects.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/28/michael-j ... -cemetery/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/28/michael-jackson-tomb-fans-justice4mj-mausoleum-forest-lawn-cemetery/)
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Yeah of course this happens right before June approaches. Coincidence I think not. Randy talking about getting fans up in there. He know good and well that wasn't going to happen in the first place. The other day on that video Randy was saying that he was disturbed by photos being leaked well what do you think would happen if fans got in there. His statement contradicts his actions to get fans in there. They know exactly what their doing. They don't want no chaos around that place on June 25th. MJ ain't in that thing no way. They don't want all the fans snooping around. I'll be suprised if they have any photos of the family there that day even though they are suppose to be going. Even if they do take photos I still don't believe MJ is in that mausoleum.
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Yeah of course this happens right before June approaches. Coincidence I think not. Randy talking about getting fans up in there. He know good and well that wasn't going to happen in the first place. The other day on that video Randy was saying that he was disturbed by photos being leaked well what do you think would happen if fans got in there. His statement contradicts his actions to get fans in there. They know exactly what their doing. They don't want no chaos around that place on June 25th. MJ ain't in that thing no way. They don't want all the fans snooping around. I'll be suprised if they have any photos of the family there that day even though they are suppose to be going. Even if they do take photos I still don't believe MJ is in that mausoleum.
I agree !
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MJ Mausoleum -- Fans No Longer Welcome
It's unclear why Forest Lawn is making the move -- especially because fans have been visiting the burial site regularly since MJ moved in last year.
...that sounds so weird. "Moved in"... this is not a house where one "moves in", in my opinion...
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MJ Mausoleum -- Fans No Longer Welcome
It's unclear why Forest Lawn is making the move -- especially because fans have been visiting the burial site regularly since MJ moved in last year.
...that sounds so weird. "Moved in"... this is not a house where one "moves in", in my opinion...
Yeah, sounds weird, and yesterday : CM visits Michael jackson, not his grave....
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it gives me a sigh of relief........ :roll:
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It's no longer Holly Terrace. It's now MJ's Mausoleum :)
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GirlInTheMirror, looks like a pun of TMZ, moving, Who moved? .. Michael?,! yes!, fans visit the burial site, whether clear all know that this is a burial site, .. since Michael moved, or moved, of course that is dumb move. :lol:
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I just saw, in the pic TMZ are using, Michael is looking down at the fans, like he's thinking " Wtf are they doing here ? " :lol:
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MIKE IS LIKE ENOUGH "MOURNING" WHY YOU CRYING? MIKE NO LONGER WELCOMES THE FANS CUS I AIN'T DEAD I WELCOME YOU SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR NOW LOCATION OF BAM IS UNKNOWN.
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Tina K. wrote;
I just saw, in the pic TMZ are using, Michael is looking down at the fans, like he's thinking " Wtf are they doing here ? "
if, indeed as if to say, you guys up when they go to come here? .. may not have seen all the tracks that I have given? :lol: :lol:
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Yeah of course this happens right before June approaches. Coincidence I think not. Randy talking about getting fans up in there. He know good and well that wasn't going to happen in the first place. The other day on that video Randy was saying that he was disturbed by photos being leaked well what do you think would happen if fans got in there. His statement contradicts his actions to get fans in there. They know exactly what their doing. They don't want no chaos around that place on June 25th. MJ ain't in that thing no way. They don't want all the fans snooping around. I'll be suprised if they have any photos of the family there that day even though they are suppose to be going. Even if they do take photos I still don't believe MJ is in that mausoleum.
Exactly I agree
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Mmmm??? 8-)
So its ok for Murray to visit on the 25th then?? He's going to be a very busy guy on the 25th according to the sources - 2 courtcases to attend aswell :?
Ohhhhh enough already, Michael my head is like a melting pot :lol:
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I am going to Los Angeles from the UK for June 25th.
i am 50/50 on all this.. so confused as to whats going on. I lurch from believing he has gone to believing he is alive.
There will be THOUSANDS of people coming from all over the world to mourn Michael.. so where are we supposed to go?? The Jackson family and Forest Lawn need to come up with a plan and an explanation and fast!!
We all love Michael and if he has died.. then its right and proper that we are able to pay our respects and say goodbye. This has been denied to the fans since day one. Secrecy and lies.. pushing the fans away like our feelings dont matter.
They need to do something because a lot of people will be there demanding to be able to say goodbye and pay respects to a man they love... and if they are unable then people need to start explaining why. I mean.. not even allowed to go up the steps is absolutely ridiculous. What are they going to do June 25th??.. plant security guards and police there?? They will have big problems if they dont address this.
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I am going to Los Angeles from the UK for June 25th.
i am 50/50 on all this.. so confused as to whats going on. I lurch from believing he has gone to believing he is alive.
There will be THOUSANDS of people coming from all over the world to mourn Michael.. so where are we supposed to go?? The Jackson family and Forest Lawn need to come up with a plan and an explanation and fast!!
We all love Michael and if he has died.. then its right and proper that we are able to pay our respects and say goodbye. This has been denied to the fans since day one. Secrecy and lies.. pushing the fans away like our feelings dont matter.
They need to do something because a lot of people will be there demanding to be able to say goodbye and pay respects to a man they love... and if they are unable then people need to start explaining why. I mean.. not even allowed to go up the steps is absolutely ridiculous. What are they going to do June 25th??.. plant security guards and police there?? They will have big problems if they dont address this.
Don't you think it's only logical that fans are "not able to pay their respects"? I could imagine none of the people involved in this hoax want to see fans spending loads of money on plane tickets or whatsoever to visit a tomb of someone who didn't die. So preventing them from getting near that tomb is, in my opinion, a perfect solution.
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Let's see how the family and fix this mess TMZ, Murray goes to the cemetery that day (say for photographic section) and that will make the fans? 8-)
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I am going to Los Angeles from the UK for June 25th.
i am 50/50 on all this.. so confused as to whats going on. I lurch from believing he has gone to believing he is alive.
There will be THOUSANDS of people coming from all over the world to mourn Michael.. so where are we supposed to go?? The Jackson family and Forest Lawn need to come up with a plan and an explanation and fast!!
We all love Michael and if he has died.. then its right and proper that we are able to pay our respects and say goodbye. This has been denied to the fans since day one. Secrecy and lies.. pushing the fans away like our feelings dont matter.
They need to do something because a lot of people will be there demanding to be able to say goodbye and pay respects to a man they love... and if they are unable then people need to start explaining why. I mean.. not even allowed to go up the steps is absolutely ridiculous. What are they going to do June 25th??.. plant security guards and police there?? They will have big problems if they dont address this.
They are maybe scared, that the fans will find out.... that he's not dead. :D
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Let's see how the family and fix this mess TMZ, Murray goes to the cemetery that day (say for photographic section) and that will make the fans? 8-)
Let's first wait and see if Conny 'survives' his hearing on the 14th ;)
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I am going to Los Angeles from the UK for June 25th.
i am 50/50 on all this.. so confused as to whats going on. I lurch from believing he has gone to believing he is alive.
There will be THOUSANDS of people coming from all over the world to mourn Michael.. so where are we supposed to go?? The Jackson family and Forest Lawn need to come up with a plan and an explanation and fast!!
We all love Michael and if he has died.. then its right and proper that we are able to pay our respects and say goodbye. This has been denied to the fans since day one. Secrecy and lies.. pushing the fans away like our feelings dont matter.
They need to do something because a lot of people will be there demanding to be able to say goodbye and pay respects to a man they love... and if they are unable then people need to start explaining why. I mean.. not even allowed to go up the steps is absolutely ridiculous. What are they going to do June 25th??.. plant security guards and police there?? They will have big problems if they dont address this.
I agree, the fans have been disregarded in everything since Michael's "Death"
It will be a hot mess over in L.A on June 25th, no matter whatever the belief of the fan is they should be allowed to pay their respects if they choose to do so :cry:
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My thoughts....we are nearing the end and they now need to keep the fans out in order to get ready for the reveal....they need it to be secured to set up the BAM!!! :D ;)
Keep the faith! Here we go! :D
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Mo, I think that is going to survive, has survived all, is a quiet type who goes everywhere without hindrance, not Arnie and Jason that they must be hiding :mrgreen:
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Karen Faye has reared her head again over this. This is her latest contribution:
It is sad a visit to Holly Terrace, has become a fan event, a TMZ critique opportunity. I
do understand, but it is not the state of mind one should take while visiting.
...It is painful for me, that Michael's resting place is a bus stop on the site
seeing tour...and don't forget to get your t-shirt. :(I am just not
emotionally ready for this attitude.
Now, remembering Karen was the first to post a pic of the crypt on the internet, look at the below photo and wording.
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Karen Faye has reared her head again over this. This is her latest contribution:
It is sad a visit to Holly Terrace, has become a fan event, a TMZ critique opportunity. I
do understand, but it is not the state of mind one should take while visiting.
...It is painful for me, that Michael's resting place is a bus stop on the site
seeing tour...and don't forget to get your t-shirt. :(I am just not
emotionally ready for this attitude.
Now, remembering Karen was the first to post a pic of the crypt on the internet, look at the below photo and wording.
She is such a liar and false person :twisted: She changes her mind likes the wind blows.... Now she tryes to act like she's SO close to the jacksons again, sorry, but I'm gonna puke in 2 sec. :evil:
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But think of the lyrics to privacy.. ties in to Karens behavour.
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uh hello she helped make it FAN event!!! by posting those pics! :evil:
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But think of the lyrics to privacy.. ties in to Karens behavour.
yeah, I know.
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But think of the lyrics to privacy.. ties in to Karens behavour.
yeah, I know.
I just find it really earry and strange. Remember the photo that Karen first leaked of Forest Lawn and then AEG released this photo:
So so strange to me... :?
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But think of the lyrics to privacy.. ties in to Karens behavour.
yeah, I know.
I just find it really earry and strange. Remember the photo that Karen first leaked of Forest Lawn and then AEG released this photo:
So so strange to me... :?
did we ever figure out what that was?? was it FL?
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But think of the lyrics to privacy.. ties in to Karens behavour.
yeah, I know.
I just find it really earry and strange. Remember the photo that Karen first leaked of Forest Lawn and then AEG released this photo:
So so strange to me... :?
Who said AEG leaked that pic..? It was released by People on October 21st. Credit: Kevin Mazur/The Michael Jackson Company, LLC.
Description:
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You"
Jackson sang two duets, including "Man in the Mirror," with vocalist Judith Hill (pictured), who also performed "Heal the World" at his memorial. "They fell in like they'd been signing together their entire lives," says Payne. Ortega says Hill brought out Jackson's gentlemanly side. "There was this dashing thing about him," says the director. "A little Gene Kelly going on. He would say, 'Ken, always make sure that a woman looks her finest!'"
Oh and by the way - to me THAT'S the Real Deal on that pic.
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Oh, sorry.. People then.. but it must have come from AEG as they own the rights to This is It documentary? So it must have originally come from the Kenny Ortega camp?
Its strange anyways... did we figure out what it was or is it still a mystery?
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It really makes me think we are getting closer to the end of this adventure......This is typically just another thing that is not logical to common sense and for me also NOT a coincidence ;)
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Who said AEG leaked that pic..? It was released by People on October 21st. Credit: Kevin Mazur/The Michael Jackson Company, LLC.
But this picture is also in the booklet of the CD "This is it - The music that inspired the movie". The CD was (in Germany at least) released on October 12th.
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some pics of the mausoleum:
http://gossipblogreport.com/michael-jacksons-grave/ (http://gossipblogreport.com/michael-jacksons-grave/)
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/peopl ... -mausoleum (http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1559530.php/Fans-prevented-from-gathering-outside-Michael-Jackson-s-mausoleum)
Those previous links showing the mausoleum...hm, hey don't look the same to me, what's that, what's the "real" grave according to them?
http://eurthisnthat.com/wp-content/uplo ... 00x214.jpg (http://eurthisnthat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/michael-jackson-mausoleum-300x214.jpg)
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Wow
http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunti ... _glendale/ (http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunting/forest_lawn_glendale/)
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£3K BRIBES TO SEE MICHAEL JACKSON'S BURIAL SITE
28th March 2010 By Dominik Lemanski
GHOULISH fans of Michael Jackson are paying bribes of up to £3,000 to see the pop king’s final resting place.
They are littering the crypt with memorabilia and even posing for macabre photos by the megastar’s marble tomb.
Now Jackson’s outraged parents Katherine and Joe are demanding that security be tightened at the Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, California.
The move comes after reports that one employee had raked in £100,000 by selling pictures of the singing legend’s tomb to US media outlets. A source close to the family said last night: “The family believe some former staff members who can find their way around existing security have been smuggling in fans for visits and charging them up to £3,000 for the privilege.
“Fans are taking in memorabilia and posing for inappropriate or even disrespectful photos next to Michael’s tomb.
“It has got completely out of hand. Photos of Michael’s final resting place have been turning up on websites all over the net and it is really starting to upset the family.
“Then there’s the worry about safety and security. There is a risk the fans could scratch or deface Michael’s marble tomb or take away keepsakes left behind by friends and family.
“The family are now taking steps to drastically reduce the number of people able to visit Michael’s burial site and security has been tightened up.
“As part of the new measures, the list of people actually allowed into the mausoleum will now include family only and no one else.”
Last week it was revealed Michael Jackson’s estate has agreed the biggest recording deal in history – worth more than £133million – with Sony Music.
The deal reportedly involves ten album projects – including one of previously unreleased material – over seven years.
The singer died at his Los Angeles home in June last year aged 50. He was rehearsing for a series of comeback concerts at London’s O2.
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I am going to Los Angeles from the UK for June 25th.
i am 50/50 on all this.. so confused as to whats going on. I lurch from believing he has gone to believing he is alive.
There will be THOUSANDS of people coming from all over the world to mourn Michael.. so where are we supposed to go?? The Jackson family and Forest Lawn need to come up with a plan and an explanation and fast!!
We all love Michael and if he has died.. then its right and proper that we are able to pay our respects and say goodbye. This has been denied to the fans since day one. Secrecy and lies.. pushing the fans away like our feelings dont matter.
They need to do something because a lot of people will be there demanding to be able to say goodbye and pay respects to a man they love... and if they are unable then people need to start explaining why. I mean.. not even allowed to go up the steps is absolutely ridiculous. What are they going to do June 25th??.. plant security guards and police there?? They will have big problems if they dont address this.
I have an idea...maybe the thousands of fans that show up can go visit Mr Tom Sneddon and force him to tell the truth about his actions regarding Michael and others. Okay...scratch that. bad idea. No - good idea, just don't want to see anybody get hurt.
I agree with Mo - Michael and his family don't want the fans to spend their hard earned money coming to see him when he's not there. Maybe he'll end up joining you wherever you all are! Wouldn't that be awesome?
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God happens to Karen, on the assumption that Michael died, what's wrong with the people who want to go to your grave? 8-)
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God happens to Karen, on the assumption that Michael died, what's wrong with the people who want to go to your grave? 8-)
There is nothing wrong with it.. she is being a bitch.
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Description:
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You"
Jackson sang two duets, including "Man in the Mirror," with vocalist Judith Hill (pictured), who also performed "Heal the World" at his memorial. "They fell in like they'd been signing together their entire lives," says Payne. Ortega says Hill brought out Jackson's gentlemanly side. "There was this dashing thing about him," says the director. "A little Gene Kelly going on. He would say, 'Ken, always make sure that a woman looks her finest!'"
Oh and by the way - to me THAT'S the Real Deal on that pic.
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Is it just me or is this description not at ALL what we witnessed between MJ and Judith during this song in TII.
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I am going to Los Angeles from the UK for June 25th.
i am 50/50 on all this.. so confused as to whats going on. I lurch from believing he has gone to believing he is alive.
There will be THOUSANDS of people coming from all over the world to mourn Michael.. so where are we supposed to go?? The Jackson family and Forest Lawn need to come up with a plan and an explanation and fast!!
We all love Michael and if he has died.. then its right and proper that we are able to pay our respects and say goodbye. This has been denied to the fans since day one. Secrecy and lies.. pushing the fans away like our feelings dont matter.
They need to do something because a lot of people will be there demanding to be able to say goodbye and pay respects to a man they love... and if they are unable then people need to start explaining why. I mean.. not even allowed to go up the steps is absolutely ridiculous. What are they going to do June 25th??.. plant security guards and police there?? They will have big problems if they dont address this.
Don't you think it's only logical that fans are "not able to pay their respects"? I could imagine none of the people involved in this hoax want to see fans spending loads of money on plane tickets or whatsoever to visit a tomb of someone who didn't die. So preventing them from getting near that tomb is, in my opinion, a perfect solution.
I thought the same when I read this. Michael doesn't want any of his fans to spend $$$ to mourn for him. I loved this news. And the hater group is not going in too. :D
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DancingTheDream wrote;
There is nothing wrong with it.. she is being a bitch.
:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Soooo...let me get this straigh. Fans who Michael himself loved dearly, who love & adore him aren't allowed to pay their respects any longer but CM can visit? The man who's soon to be on trial for his "death"? WTH?!!! lol. Are fans just not allowed anymore because MJ is no longer there? & CM is going to visit him elsewhere? If not then WTF?!!
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why are the family worried about MJs tomb being scratched? its made of marble Im sure you cant scratch that thing if you can do it that easily by just touching it with your hand...its cheap and fake.
I dont see why they are not allowing fans to even be outside of the uilding i mean its open to visitors so it shuld be open to mj fans. they were behaving the whole time. sorry this is all stupid. randy wants to place to be open to fans but then suddnly it says fans cant go visit...ugh!
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why are the family worried about MJs tomb being scratched? its made of marble Im sure you cant scratch that thing if you can do it that easily by just touching it with your hand...its cheap and fake.
I dont see why they are not allowing fans to even be outside of the uilding i mean its open to visitors so it shuld be open to mj fans. they were behaving the whole time. sorry this is all stupid. randy wants to place to be open to fans but then suddnly it says fans cant go visit...ugh!
Plus there are gates in front of the crypt anyway.. they could organise it so fans could go down the corridor and file past the gates... so not actually get close enough to touch the crypt but close enough to see it and say goodbye and lay some flowers at the front. That would mean they wouldnt have to worry about the fans touching the actual crypt and they could have a security guard there in case anyone got over emotional and tried to do something stupid. Its only for one day and they could just open it up for a few hours. I dont see what the problem is.. seems to me they are making excuses.
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Description:
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You"
Jackson sang two duets, including "Man in the Mirror," with vocalist Judith Hill (pictured), who also performed "Heal the World" at his memorial. "They fell in like they'd been signing together their entire lives," says Payne. Ortega says Hill brought out Jackson's gentlemanly side. "There was this dashing thing about him," says the director. "A little Gene Kelly going on. He would say, 'Ken, always make sure that a woman looks her finest!'"
Oh and by the way - to me THAT'S the Real Deal on that pic.
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Is it just me or is this description not at ALL what we witnessed between MJ and Judith during this song in TII.
That's funny because I thought the same thing when I read that. I was thinking "did I watch the same scene they are talking about"? LOL.
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Found this:
A group of MICHAEL JACKSON fans is fighting for access to the star's grave - after cemetery officials decided to impose strict visitation rules.
The Justice4MJ fan group is planning to make a visit to the singer's mausoleum at Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale, California on 25 June (10) to mark the first anniversary of his death.
But they're set to meet resistance from authorities who are cracking down on the number of mourners paying their respects at the site.
According to TMZ.com, guards have been instructed to ask anyone who is loitering in the grounds to leave.
A representative for the Justice4MJ group is urging memorial park bosses to "take into consideration" the huge number of fans who will be travelling from across the globe for the day.
The King of Pop's younger brother Randy Jackson is supporting the mourners and is said to have asked officials to hand out permits to visitors to the tomb.
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... ve_1144371 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jackson-fans-desperate-to-visit-grave_1144371)
So now Randy wants to hand out permits???
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Yeah of course this happens right before June approaches. Coincidence I think not. Randy talking about getting fans up in there. He know good and well that wasn't going to happen in the first place. The other day on that video Randy was saying that he was disturbed by photos being leaked well what do you think would happen if fans got in there. His statement contradicts his actions to get fans in there. They know exactly what their doing. They don't want no chaos around that place on June 25th. MJ ain't in that thing no way. They don't want all the fans snooping around. I'll be suprised if they have any photos of the family there that day even though they are suppose to be going. Even if they do take photos I still don't believe MJ is in that mausoleum.
I agree 100%. First, the fans are to be let into FL on June 25th to get as close as possible to MJ, then the fans are banned. Hmmmmmmm, :? that does not make sense at all. Why punish the fans. They did not take the photos that were leaked to TMZ ( I hope that I got this correct). It seems like everything gets cancelled or revoked. All the tributes, the Still the King tour, and now this at FL. Seeems so fishy to me. :? I think they did not want the fans snooping around FL. I remember the fans footage that was posted on the forum from youtube with FL security allowing the fans to be loitering on the terrace. Is that not security's fault and not the fans? For me, it is strange that MJ would be buried in a 50-year old tomb that was not designed especially without his name on the tomb. All seems so weird to me. I am going back to my padded cell for now. God love you all! xxxxxKaren Faye has reared her head again over this. This is her latest contribution:
It is sad a visit to Holly Terrace, has become a fan event, a TMZ critique opportunity. I
do understand, but it is not the state of mind one should take while visiting.
...It is painful for me, that Michael's resting place is a bus stop on the site
seeing tour...and don't forget to get your t-shirt. :(I am just not
emotionally ready for this attitude.
Now, remembering Karen was the first to post a pic of the crypt on the internet, look at the below photo and wording.
Seems to me like the pot is calling the kettle black. Did KF or a friend of hers leaking the FL Holly Terrace piccies to TMZ. Am I correct in my statement? Thank you in advance. God bless you all, and Keep the Faith. xxxxx
by i_need YoU » Mon May 31, 2010 1:23 am
why are the family worried about MJs tomb being scratched? its made of marble Im sure you cant scratch that thing if you can do it that easily by just touching it with your hand...its cheap and fake.
I dont see why they are not allowing fans to even be outside of the uilding i mean its open to visitors so it shuld be open to mj fans. they were behaving the whole time. sorry this is all stupid. randy wants to place to be open to fans but then suddnly it says fans cant go visit...ugh!
Hmmmm, MJ fans cannot visit MJ at FL, but Conrad Murray who is accused of murdering MJ can visit his grave.! :shock: :? Absolutely mind-blowing to me. Does not make logical sense to me at all, but then again nothing has fit together in the jigsaw since June 25, 2009.
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/ ... ve_on.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/05/29/2010-05-29_dr_conrad_murray_charged_in_michael_jackson_death_to_visit_king_of_pops_grave_on.html)
Dr. Conrad Murray, charged in Michael Jackson death, to visit King of Pop's grave one year later
BY Larry Mcshane
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Saturday, May 29th 2010, 4:58 PM
AP
Dr. Conrad Murray was with Michael Jackson when he died from a prescription drug overdose.
The King of Pop is getting a visit from the doctor of death.
Conrad Murray, the physician charged in Michael Jackson's sudden demise, plans a pilgrimage to the singer's grave next month to mark the first anniversary of Jacko's passing, TMZ.com reported Saturday.
Murray was with the platinum-selling international superstar when he died from a prescription drug overdose. The doctor was subsequently charged with involuntary manslaughter.
Murray pleaded innocent to the charge and reportedly plans to claim Jackson fatally injected himself. Jackson, who was planning a huge 50-show London comeback, died June 25, 2009, at his California home.
The one-time child star was just 50.
It won't be Murray's first visit to the Forest Hills mausoleum where Jackson is interred.
The 37-year-old doctor makes frequent trips to the cemetery in the early morning hours to avoid attention, TMZ reported.
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I am going to Los Angeles from the UK for June 25th.
i am 50/50 on all this.. so confused as to whats going on. I lurch from believing he has gone to believing he is alive.
There will be THOUSANDS of people coming from all over the world to mourn Michael.. so where are we supposed to go?? The Jackson family and Forest Lawn need to come up with a plan and an explanation and fast!!
We all love Michael and if he has died.. then its right and proper that we are able to pay our respects and say goodbye. This has been denied to the fans since day one. Secrecy and lies.. pushing the fans away like our feelings dont matter.
They need to do something because a lot of people will be there demanding to be able to say goodbye and pay respects to a man they love... and if they are unable then people need to start explaining why. I mean.. not even allowed to go up the steps is absolutely ridiculous. What are they going to do June 25th??.. plant security guards and police there?? They will have big problems if they dont address this.
Don't you think it's only logical that fans are "not able to pay their respects"? I could imagine none of the people involved in this hoax want to see fans spending loads of money on plane tickets or whatsoever to visit a tomb of someone who didn't die. So preventing them from getting near that tomb is, in my opinion, a perfect solution.
Totally, Mo.. DD, are you gonna be meeting the Jackson family?
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Of course, this is not surprising because:
1. Michael Jackson is still very much alive and well, so there's no reason to visit his "tomb" even if we believers might have a chance to see him there (like he was at his memorial service and his funeral). And, of course, this is to keep the unbelievers believing that Michael is dead until Michael wishes to prove himself alive to them.
2. Michael Jackson may even prove that he's alive on, or by, that date.
3. No matter what happens, there would utter chaos with so many fans coming to his "tomb" on the same day.
4. Dr. Conrad Murray will be there (not for the first time); and Michael's more unloving fans might want to hurt him pretty badly. If more people would look at the evidence with an open mind, they would see Dr. Murray as innocent of all charges, because Michael never died.
I have a new Website with threads which have been deleted from the Sony site, which discuss Michael being alive (since it would not have been appropriate to put the threads on michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com in their entirety):
http://michaeljackson777.boardhost.com/ (http://michaeljackson777.boardhost.com/)
Please feel free to visit, join, and comment as often as you wish. Thank you.
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By the way, still to this day, when you search on Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale it knows nothing of Michael Jackson being at their gravesite. Therefore, he is not there. ;)
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maybe something will "happen" before the 25th and then there will be no problem....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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By the way, still to this day, when you search on Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale it knows nothing of Michael Jackson being at their gravesite. Therefore, he is not there. ;)
thats becuz IF MJ is really dead he probably is not really buried there.
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Yeah of course this happens right before June approaches. Coincidence I think not. Randy talking about getting fans up in there. He know good and well that wasn't going to happen in the first place. The other day on that video Randy was saying that he was disturbed by photos being leaked well what do you think would happen if fans got in there. His statement contradicts his actions to get fans in there. They know exactly what their doing. They don't want no chaos around that place on June 25th. MJ ain't in that thing no way. They don't want all the fans snooping around. I'll be suprised if they have any photos of the family there that day even though they are suppose to be going. Even if they do take photos I still don't believe MJ is in that mausoleum.
I agree 100%. First, the fans are to be let into FL on June 25th to get as close as possible to MJ, then the fans are banned. Hmmmmmmm, :? that does not make sense at all. Why punish the fans. They did not take the photos that were leaked to TMZ ( I hope that I got this correct). It seems like everything gets cancelled or revoked. All the tributes, the Still the King tour, and now this at FL. Seeems so fishy to me. :? I think they did not want the fans snooping around FL. I remember the fans footage that was posted on the forum from youtube with FL security allowing the fans to be loitering on the terrace. Is that not security's fault and not the fans? For me, it is strange that MJ would be buried in a 50-year old tomb that was not designed especially without his name on the tomb. All seems so weird to me. I am going back to my padded cell for now. God love you all! xxxxxKaren Faye has reared her head again over this. This is her latest contribution:
It is sad a visit to Holly Terrace, has become a fan event, a TMZ critique opportunity. I
do understand, but it is not the state of mind one should take while visiting.
...It is painful for me, that Michael's resting place is a bus stop on the site
seeing tour...and don't forget to get your t-shirt. :(I am just not
emotionally ready for this attitude.
Now, remembering Karen was the first to post a pic of the crypt on the internet, look at the below photo and wording.
Seems to me like the pot is calling the kettle black. Did KF or a friend of hers leaking the FL Holly Terrace piccies to TMZ. Am I correct in my statement? Thank you in advance. God bless you all, and Keep the Faith. xxxxx
by i_need YoU » Mon May 31, 2010 1:23 am
why are the family worried about MJs tomb being scratched? its made of marble Im sure you cant scratch that thing if you can do it that easily by just touching it with your hand...its cheap and fake.
I dont see why they are not allowing fans to even be outside of the uilding i mean its open to visitors so it shuld be open to mj fans. they were behaving the whole time. sorry this is all stupid. randy wants to place to be open to fans but then suddnly it says fans cant go visit...ugh!
Hmmmm, MJ fans cannot visit MJ at FL, but Conrad Murray who is accused of murdering MJ can visit his grave.! :shock: :? Absolutely mind-blowing to me. Does not make logical sense to me at all, but then again nothing has fit together in the jigsaw since June 25, 2009.
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/ ... ve_on.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/05/29/2010-05-29_dr_conrad_murray_charged_in_michael_jackson_death_to_visit_king_of_pops_grave_on.html)
Dr. Conrad Murray, charged in Michael Jackson death, to visit King of Pop's grave one year later
BY Larry Mcshane
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Saturday, May 29th 2010, 4:58 PM
AP
Dr. Conrad Murray was with Michael Jackson when he died from a prescription drug overdose.
The King of Pop is getting a visit from the doctor of death.
Conrad Murray, the physician charged in Michael Jackson's sudden demise, plans a pilgrimage to the singer's grave next month to mark the first anniversary of Jacko's passing, TMZ.com reported Saturday.
Murray was with the platinum-selling international superstar when he died from a prescription drug overdose. The doctor was subsequently charged with involuntary manslaughter.
Murray pleaded innocent to the charge and reportedly plans to claim Jackson fatally injected himself. Jackson, who was planning a huge 50-show London comeback, died June 25, 2009, at his California home.
The one-time child star was just 50.
It won't be Murray's first visit to the Forest Hills mausoleum where Jackson is interred.
The 37-year-old doctor makes frequent trips to the cemetery in the early morning hours to avoid attention, TMZ reported.
HUH MURRAY IS OLDER THAN 37...ALSO THANKS TMZ FOR THE HEADS UP ON WHEN HE VISITS!!!
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37 years? .. :?: morning visits to a cemetery? ... :shock: ! Thriller! :lol:
Now another thing, from a legal standpoint, can be an unmarked grave in the U.S.? :?:
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37 ??????
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The other day on that video Randy was saying that he was disturbed by photos being leaked well what do you think would happen if fans got in there.
In this day and age people have cameras at their hands all the time. Of course someone will take a picture. But it is my belief that Randy helped Karen Faye to take and sell those first pictures to splash.
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37 ??????
3*7= 21...(three 7's) :D (red shirt)
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The other day on that video Randy was saying that he was disturbed by photos being leaked well what do you think would happen if fans got in there.
In this day and age people have cameras at their hands all the time. Of course someone will take a picture. But it is my belief that Randy helped Karen Faye to take and sell those first pictures to splash.
:D :D I'm liking your belief as it is the same as mine!
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Then how could Forest Lawn let this happen yesterday with their new rules?????
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