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Title: TIAI February 11
Post by: MJEnjoyYourself on February 11, 2010, 01:18:07 AM
Hi guys!

today http://www.thisisalsoit.com had a new redirect

here is: http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf is about coroner´s info.

only for curiosity, i´m from Spain and yesterday at night i´d tried to conect with TIAI and pops up a window that claims "user and password" lol Here it was around 22:25h
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: Pammy on February 11, 2010, 02:52:58 AM
mmmmh weird. What is this all about? I really dunno .... Can somebody pls explain? Thx
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: Believe 777 on February 11, 2010, 03:47:13 AM
My guess is that this is a leaflet about what their standard practice is and our job could be to see any discrepancies about what normally happens and what has happened with MJ. Haven't got much time to look into it at the moment though.
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: DooDoo on February 11, 2010, 04:18:38 AM
We should note the discrepancies I think;
First thing I want to know is: on the autopsy report it's said the body was transported to the Coroner Forensic Science Center after a first examination at the hospital.
IIn the TIAI redirection we've got three possible locations: Santa Clarita Valley, Antelope Valley and Century Regional Office.
Is the Coroner Forensic Science Center one of them?
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: MJsDangerousGirl on February 11, 2010, 08:09:45 AM
That's what I was thinking.  Maybe the clue is in one of those 3 addresses?  (transporting the body)
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: mehere on February 11, 2010, 08:33:15 AM
Thank you for the post.  There are so many things I try and follow I sometimes can't keep up unless I work at it 24/7.    That's why it's good to have so many fans involved and a forum like this.  What one person misses the other one will pick up.   :)
I'll have to take a look and do some thinking on what the message is.
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 11, 2010, 05:21:43 PM
I think we need to read the Q and A on the bottom and see if there are any discrepencies with what we've been told by TMZ or any other media.
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: Grace on February 11, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Now considering this could be true and thinking of

1) Hollywood's general purpose and intention of "make.beLIEve" (with the LIE being incorporated)
2) a fake death
3) a fake doctor
4) now learning about a fake coroner

could this be Barnum's giant - a fake of a fake (which is not a crime) ?

Which brings us back to our early days of investigation and the ideas we elaborated when things were not clearer but not so distracted?

If Michael did fake that he faked his death (remember, almost everything being doubled in this case) - would this mean that it's about just a retirement with some drama added?
Would this mean that he wants to be dead?

For the majority he IS dead - the more as the autopsy report is actually being pulled as TRUTH through the tabloids - they print even the drawings of where he supposedly had a scar... it is so ridiculous...
Majority on this planet does not care about him or about his motivations or his charity or what he wanted to show and explain to us.
And as to the fans - they are more divided than united now. I am not talking about this board. I am talking about the regular fan sites. Who cares there whether he's coming back?

I am tired - I guess I need a break.
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: ejay on February 11, 2010, 06:05:46 PM
The one thing i noticed is that the County of Los Angelos California seals are different.
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: Shake on February 11, 2010, 06:23:56 PM
The only thing I noticed so far is "Lakshmanan
Sathyavagiswaran, M.D.
Chief Medical Examiner — Coroner" on the front of the leaflet matches with the name and signature on page 21 of the autopsy report (after the toxicology studies). Don't really know what I'm looking for but still comparing.
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: bluegurl201 on February 11, 2010, 06:29:40 PM
Dang, I'm confused  :|

Someone explain what this TIAI redirect has to do and connect to the hoax. Please?
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: Shake on February 11, 2010, 06:58:32 PM
My interpretation -it looks like one of the help leaflets you would normally give out to grieving relatives to explain the process and answer any questions they might have. I would guess from the internet address that this is the official one. So I assume we would use this to check against other facts for authenticity... no? Some of these clues do feel like teasing, don't they...  :?
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 11, 2010, 07:22:43 PM
Quote from: "Shake"
My interpretation -it looks like one of the help leaflets you would normally give out to grieving relatives to explain the process and answer any questions they might have. I would guess from the internet address that this is the official one. So I assume we would use this to check against other facts for authenticity... no? Some of these clues do feel like teasing, don't they...  :?


That what I said previously...I agree with this..
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: karmaknowstruth on February 11, 2010, 07:51:16 PM
This is very interesting.  At the bottom of the Question and Answer section it states:
(wouldn't let me copy/paste the whole thing so I typed what I found most relevant)

Quote
Governmental documents (drivers licenses passports, military ID cards) will not be released to the next of kin.  These documents will be returned to the issuing agency for disposition.
[/b]

Which brings me to ask, HOW IN THE HELL  did we get photo copies of MJ's passport and 2 drivers licenses ?????????????

And what official used the DL to make the positive ID on the unrecognizable body???
Was that the first body or the second body from the first or second van at the first or second coroners unloading door off the first or second helicopter? ? ? ?

Quote
Grace wrote
If Michael did fake that he faked his death (remember, almost everything being doubled in this case) - would this mean that it's about just a retirement with some drama added?  Would this mean that he wants to be dead?

You are really keeping me in stitches today  Grace because it seems we in fact are having to go over everything twice anyway because we do have double drivers license  :? , double autopsies  :o , body doubles  :? , double doses  :twisted: .......geez.  :shock:

All I have to say is when I get a hold of Michael he is in really big trouble, really !

xoxoxo
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: Hopeless on February 12, 2010, 03:34:12 AM
A new redirect :

http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm (http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm)

Please since when TIAI makes the new redirects ? The last weeks i only look st the Twitter TIAI links...
2 different links a day ? one from Twitter, one as the redirect ?
 :geek:
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: Tink.I.Am on February 12, 2010, 03:43:45 AM
Quote from: "Hopeless"
A new redirect :

http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm (http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm)

Please since when TIAI makes the new redirects ? The last weeks i only look st the Twitter TIAI links...
2 different links a day ? one from Twitter, one as the redirect ?
 :geek:

are you sure the 2 TIAI are the same person??  ;)

this new redirect is interesting.... have anyone sent a Q or recusest?
I did....
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: Hopeless on February 12, 2010, 03:45:04 AM
Poor guy who has to answer all the question's yet to come..... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: ForstAMoon on February 12, 2010, 04:02:46 AM
the recent re-directs:
- post showing 9/09/09 date on the last page of coroner's report and possible connection to 09/09/09 earlier cases and coincidences and TIAI predictions
- then coroner report
- then Q&A brochure
- right now the inquiry form

it all leads to the report but maybe it is not about asking questions to Coroner but questioning the report as such i.e. it is all fake  :?
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 12, 2010, 08:39:00 AM
Look at the seals on this redirect.....
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: ForstAMoon on February 12, 2010, 08:49:15 AM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Look at the seals on this redirect.....

unfortunately there are at least two threads on this topic, and the seal issue is being already discussed on the other one, do you think it is possible to merge the two threads to aviod double postings?

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5440 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5440)
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 09:45:09 AM
Hey
I have found something strange!

Where is CRAIG HARVEY listed?    
Doesn't he belong to the coroner?
Title: Re: New redirect of TIAI
Post by: ForstAMoon on February 12, 2010, 09:52:32 AM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Hey
I have found something strange!

Where is CRAIG HARVEY listed?    
Doesn't he belong to the coroner?

indeed, he is not listed, but he is not in charge of the whole office, he is Chief Coroner Investigator & Chief of Operations, so maybe the top officers are only listed... but if you go to the Branch Services tab, then Operations Bureau, then Mission Statement - you can see his photo i guess
Title: TIAI February 11
Post by: Just Michael and Me on February 11, 2010, 01:19:14 AM
Ok,guys,that's weird...today,feb 11,TIAI redirects to a PDF doc.:

http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf

How can we explain what is written there,in order to be necessary in our hoax investigations? :shock:
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: lovemj4everandever on February 11, 2010, 01:39:42 AM
I think it's pointing out all the "fake" things in the autopsy.  Such as the blood tubes being labeled "Trauma, Gerswhin", instead of the patient's name as it legally has to be labeled on the blood tubes as "Jackson, Michael."  

George Gerswhin - famous composer - most famous song "It Ain't Necessarily So."  

Also, you can't have a naked body in a casket six weeks after death unrefrigerated out in a hallway at Forest Lawn to collect more samples.  The entire report is ridiculous if you read it.   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: mjsweety on February 11, 2010, 01:42:07 AM
Ira Gershwin (George's bro)  song by him " The Man That Got Away"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: Just Michael and Me on February 11, 2010, 01:48:36 AM
I have read the autopsy reports and they're invalid. How can they write "Jackson,Michael" or "Jackson,Michael Joseph"...if I heard well,his real name is JOE..

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2lszkol.jpg)
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: Just Michael and Me on February 11, 2010, 01:52:20 AM
Quote from: "mjsweety"
Ira Gershwin (George's bro)  song by him " The Man That Got Away"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh!!!! THAT'S.... :o  :o  :shock:  :shock:   Thx a lot mjsweety!
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: Just Michael and Me on February 12, 2010, 10:56:33 AM
but what about today? wht do you think?!

http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm (http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm)                        :|
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: Kirsche on February 12, 2010, 11:03:21 AM
Quote from: "Just Michael and Me"
I have read the autopsy reports and they're invalid. How can they write "Jackson,Michael" or "Jackson,Michael Joseph"...if I heard well,his real name is JOE..

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2lszkol.jpg)


Where did you get this from?



and with todays' Redirection....... Do they want us to write to the Coroner Office about all the wrong thing which are in this "autopsy-report"?
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: Just Michael and Me on February 12, 2010, 11:22:12 AM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Just Michael and Me"
I have read the autopsy reports and they're invalid. How can they write "Jackson,Michael" or "Jackson,Michael Joseph"...if I heard well,his real name is JOE..

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2lszkol.jpg)


Where did you get this from?



and with todays' Redirection....... Do they want us to write to the Coroner Office about all the wrong thing which are in this "autopsy-report"?


Well...my bff gave me this.I will ask her and then I'll tell you.maybe you are rigght about the today's redirection
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: Kirsche on February 12, 2010, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: "Just Michael and Me"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Just Michael and Me"
I have read the autopsy reports and they're invalid. How can they write "Jackson,Michael" or "Jackson,Michael Joseph"...if I heard well,his real name is JOE..

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2lszkol.jpg)


Where did you get this from?



and with todays' Redirection....... Do they want us to write to the Coroner Office about all the wrong thing which are in this "autopsy-report"?


Well...my bff gave me this.I will ask her and then I'll tell you.maybe you are rigght about the today's redirection


ah okay, thank you very much :)
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: Just Michael and Me on February 13, 2010, 01:57:13 PM
ah okay, thank you very much :)[/quote]


Well...I have talked with her and she said that she forgot which is the source...anyway...I think it's true...and about the today's TIAI update...I hope it's true,too;))
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: paula-c on February 13, 2010, 07:14:44 PM
http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf (http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf)
DOES P. WILL AN AUTOPSY BE PERFORMED? An autopsy could take place? A. a. The Coroner will decide if an autopsy is necessary to the investigating judge shall decide whether the autopsy is necessary to establish the cause and circumstances of death. set the cause and circumstances of death. We we may not perform an autopsy if the cause of death can be cannot perform an autopsy if the cause of death may be determined to be from "natural causes" and the determined that "natural causes" and the deceased person has been under the care of a doctor who known medical history and provide to the investigating judge with information relating to the probable cause of death.

Well, we assume that Murray or whatever has the clinical history of Michael, and is the person who was with at the time of his "death", why Murray does not appear as the doctor who reported to the coroner?. But also remember that the family allegedly ordered another autopsy ,.......... I do not know but this is clearer every day, and some people say I'm crazy for thinking that Michael is alive, but to think otherwise I will have to show me his corpse. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: Just Michael and Me on February 14, 2010, 01:42:24 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf
DOES P. WILL AN AUTOPSY BE PERFORMED? An autopsy could take place? A. a. The Coroner will decide if an autopsy is necessary to the investigating judge shall decide whether the autopsy is necessary to establish the cause and circumstances of death. set the cause and circumstances of death. We we may not perform an autopsy if the cause of death can be cannot perform an autopsy if the cause of death may be determined to be from "natural causes" and the determined that "natural causes" and the deceased person has been under the care of a doctor who known medical history and provide to the investigating judge with information relating to the probable cause of death.

Well, we assume that Murray or whatever has the clinical history of Michael, and is the person who was with at the time of his "death", why Murray does not appear as the doctor who reported to the coroner?. But also remember that the family allegedly ordered another autopsy ,.......... I do not know but this is clearer every day, and some people say I'm crazy for thinking that Michael is alive, but to think otherwise I will have to show me his corpse. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Paula-c you're right! And what you guys think about the 14th of feb redirection.Do you think it means something?

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/imag ... 1635ef.gif (http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/9/l_5b19bf8eef9c4320b031d7732d1635ef.gif)

I don't know wht to say about that red rose...but the pic looks like "In the loving memory of The King Of Pop"...I hope this is not the last redirection...
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: paula-c on February 14, 2010, 03:49:44 PM
Day of love and friendship, red roses mean love eternal, I have sent red roses to a friend as a symbol of love and respect. ;)
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: Just Michael and Me on February 14, 2010, 04:02:25 PM
but don't you thimk that the looks sad in that pic and it reminds me of a grave with a red rose in front of it... :|  i don't know what to say :arrow:
Title: Re: New TIAI update
Post by: paula-c on February 14, 2010, 04:47:39 PM
Not any of that, look at those little hearts, ¡that's love¡. :lol:
Another thing I've always thought that Michael has the sad look in many photos, especially the last one.  :?
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