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Title: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: mjaliveomg on March 23, 2011, 05:46:09 PM
Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
39 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  

With jury selection beginning tomorrow in the manslaughter case involving Michael Jackson's death .... TMZ has learned ... Dr. Conrad Murray is targeting 12 men and/or women who take responsibility for their actions ... this according to the defense jury questionnaire.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/02/24/0224-conrad-murray-tmz-ex-2.jpg)

One of the more revealing questions:  "Do you believe patients have the responsibility to tell their doctors about their complete past and current social habits, including use of drugs, alcohol and prescription medications?"


A central part of Dr. Murray's defense is that Michael Jackson was a hard-core Propofol addict who hid his drug dependence from the doc ... thus Murray wasn't operating with full knowledge.

Other questions laser in on what people think of the case, with a heavy emphasis on social media.

-- Do you have a blog?  If so, describe.

-- Are you active on social networks.  If so, which?

The answers will lead Murray's lawyers to spontaneous comments of prospective jurors that could be more revealing than answers they give in court.

And the questionnaire asks:  "Do you financially support others outside your immediate family?"

Dr. Murray has had money troubles that could make him sympathetic to certain jurors.

Other questions include:  "At what age should a person be held accountable for their decisions, actions and consequences."

The defense is looking for people who believe in personal responsibility, such as small business owners.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: Andrea on March 23, 2011, 05:59:37 PM
It sounds to me like they're looking for jurors who have a strong sense of what is right and wrong.

Interesting about the blog/social network questions...I wonder if they want to avoid jurors with preconceived notions of Michael or if it's a shaded question about how much a juror might know about what really happened (hoax).
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: ForstAMoon on March 23, 2011, 06:06:15 PM
This one is also very interesting: At what age should a person be held accountable for their decisions, actions and consequences :?  :?  :?
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: ignisaeternus on March 23, 2011, 06:10:51 PM
I still don't get how they EVER plan to find an unbiased jury (if they are indeed finding a jury and it is not pre-scripted)- I mean, Michael is not a person who people are wishy washy about.  They either hate him or love him.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 23, 2011, 06:13:18 PM
"What's your Twitter? What's your blog? We're gonna check if you are a hoaxer or an MJ hater."

Why is there still no mention of delays on TMZ? Rumor has it that it has been delayed until July now, yet still nothing on TMZ.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on March 23, 2011, 06:14:38 PM
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
I still don't get how they EVER plan to find an unbiased jury (if they are indeed finding a jury and it is not pre-scripted)- I mean, Michael is not a person who people are wishy washy about.  They either hate him or love him.


They would have to look for people who are living under a rock....
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on March 23, 2011, 06:15:08 PM
I never heard that a person who is convicted of murder,( well not yet) has the right to chose or target the jurors. I never heard of that. I thought it was done by the judge. I was a juror once upon a time, and I remember the judge asked me full of questions, and also the DA. the person who is on trial never asked me any questions.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: scorpionchik on March 23, 2011, 06:16:10 PM
One of the more revealing questions: "Do you believe patients have the responsibility to tell their doctors about their complete past and current social habits, including use of drugs, alcohol and prescription medications?"

Yes, patients do responsible to tell the truth about their health history.....if they are asked. :lol:  Plus, when one visits doctor, there is a questionnaire for patient to complete w/all those questions in it. Michael-Conrad relationship was casual and had different purpose.

A central part of Dr. Murray's defense is that Michael Jackson was a hard-core Propofol addict who hid his drug dependence from the doc ... thus Murray wasn't operating with full knowledge

Oh shamone, that sounds to me incompetent  "fall guy" :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on March 23, 2011, 06:16:22 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
"What's your Twitter? What's your blog? We're gonna check if you are a hoaxer or an MJ hater."

Why is there still no mention of delays on TMZ? Rumor has it that it has been delayed until July now, yet still nothing on TMZ.

Delayed until July?? wow! isn't that the speculation that Michael will come back?
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: mjaliveomg on March 23, 2011, 06:17:03 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
"What's your Twitter? What's your blog? We're gonna check if you are a hoaxer or an MJ hater."

Why is there still no mention of delays on TMZ? Rumor has it that it has been delayed until July now, yet still nothing on TMZ.

 :lol:  :lol:..thats what i thought..why no mention about the delay?
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: 2good2btrue on March 23, 2011, 06:23:10 PM
How the hell does TMZ always get these confidential documents ???

I know that Harvey is a lawyer, but I have to wonder who is helping TMZ be first in everything.

Does Harvey have "help" from the courts or is he also doing something illegal???
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: mdc on March 23, 2011, 09:30:46 PM
Well so much for keeping the questions top secret. :roll:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: Integrity on March 23, 2011, 10:59:35 PM
There is no juror who will understand a Doctor who with out concern and care for his patient continued to give drugs outside a holpital setting endangering the life of the patient resulting in death, not keeping a log or record of all medications that was being given, having available on hand correct equipment if patient did not awaken or went into cardic arrest and so on and so on...
 
WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS ADDICTED IS NOT THE MATTER AT ALL..
DR. MURRAY CONTINUED TO  MIX AND GIVE MJ ALL KIND OF DRUGS UNTIL HE CAUSED  HIS DEATH.

He should have said to MJ either you come with me and we get some help for you or I am walking out now... I can not pump you up with drugs for that is not my job as a Doctor and I will not be responsbile for you if something goes wrong.

If this is not a hoax than he murdered MJ and there is no jurors he can target that can understand what he did!!!
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: PureLove on March 24, 2011, 05:40:17 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
"What's your Twitter? What's your blog? We're gonna check if you are a hoaxer or an MJ hater."

Why is there still no mention of delays on TMZ? Rumor has it that it has been delayed until July now, yet still nothing on TMZ.

I hope it is because there's no delay at all.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: PureLove on March 24, 2011, 05:43:12 AM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
I never heard that a person who is convicted of murder,( well not yet) has the right to chose or target the jurors. I never heard of that. I thought it was done by the judge. I was a juror once upon a time, and I remember the judge asked me full of questions, and also the DA. the person who is on trial never asked me any questions.

Agree. I've never heard the person who is convicted choses the jurors. Isn't that weird?
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: _Anna_ on March 24, 2011, 06:23:37 AM
The defense lawyers choose the jurors. No one said Murray in person will choose them.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: PureLove on March 24, 2011, 06:48:43 AM
Quote from: "_Anna_"
The defense lawyers choose the jurors. No one said Murray in person will choose them.

Dr. Conrad Murray is targeting 12 men and/or women who take responsibility for their actions ...
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: _Anna_ on March 24, 2011, 07:08:30 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "_Anna_"
The defense lawyers choose the jurors. No one said Murray in person will choose them.

Dr. Conrad Murray is targeting 12 men and/or women who take responsibility for their actions ...
It's TMZ's formulation. Murray's defense team will choose them. The lawyers choose the jurors based on their client's necessities and the case. This is what I know from reading about jury selection.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 24, 2011, 07:23:41 AM
Two other good questions would be 1) how do you feel about a cardiologist who cannot do proper cpr, doesn't call 911 immediately, stops trying cpr to clean up evidence, and regardless of knowing the patient's "history" injects him with "other" drugs not requested by the patient and possibly w/o patient knowledge.  2) Would you object to your family member be treated by a doctor who has stock piled propofol, a drug he is not familiar with/nor properly equipped to use, for said family member?

# 1 is a compound question, all inclusive.

How did TMZ get these questions.  I thought they were "confidential" :shock:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: paula-c on March 24, 2011, 08:08:50 AM
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_Anna_ wrote:

PureLove wrote:
_Anna_ wrote:
The defense lawyers choose the jurors. No one said Murray in person will choose them.

Dr. Conrad Murray is targeting 12 men and/or women who take responsibility for their actions ...
It's TMZ's formulation. Murray's defense team will choose them. The lawyers choose the jurors based on their client's necessities and the case. This is what I know from reading about jury selection.

Can the lawyers for the defense in truth elect the members of the jury :?:  to be objective i do not think this is good, assume for a moment in a murder in truth, as you can select people that are going to be biased with a suspected murderer :?:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: finfin on March 24, 2011, 02:22:25 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... ation.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/03/michael-jackson-case-judge-seals-jury-questionnaire-blasts-bogus-information.html)

FROM THE LA TIMES

Michael Jackson case: Judge blasts ‘bogus’ information about sealed jury questionnaire
This post has been corrected. See note below for details.

The judge presiding over the trial of Michael Jackson's personal physician blasted a website Thursday for posting what he described as "bogus" information about a questionnaire prospective jurors are filling out.

In an apparent reference to a TMZ.com article that purported to detail questions proposed by Dr. Conrad Murray's defense, Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor said, "Not one of the questions from that questionnaire posted online is part of this court's questionnaire."The judge had earlier ordered the questionnaire sealed until after the entire jury pool completed it and said he was worried that the TMZ story and a "tongue-in-cheek" questionnaire posted on a second website might affect the answers prospective panelists provide.

About 160 potential jurors were sworn in Thursday morning, marking the official start of Murray's trial. The cardiologist is accused of involuntary manslaughter for allegedly giving the pop star a fatal dose of the surgical anesthetic propofol. Murray's defense contends that Jackson administered the drug himself.

Testimony in the case is scheduled to get underway next month.

[For the record, 11:47 a.m.: A previous version of the post incorrectly implied that the questionnaire was sealed by the judge Thursday.]
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on March 24, 2011, 06:00:28 PM
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Isn’t it striking that there will be 12 jurors similar to the 2005 trial? Or is it a standard procedure?
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on March 24, 2011, 06:35:05 PM
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One of the more revealing questions: "Do you believe patients have the responsibility to tell their doctors about their complete past and current social habits, including use of drugs, alcohol and prescription medications?"

I think this question is prejudicial and rhetorical. If the prospective jurors will answer that patients are not responsible, a biased selection of jurors can easily be made. Weird.

They need to know a lot about the prospective jurors. With a long and detailed questionnaire they get more information to weed people out more easily. I hope the questionnaire will be much longer than this one, I guess we saw just a small part of the Q.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: MJhasSpoken on March 24, 2011, 06:55:03 PM
Quote from: "everlastinglove_MJ"
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Isn’t it striking that there will be 12 jurors similar to the 2005 trial? Or is it a standard procedure?

Standard...I don't know about the U.S but sometimes they have extra jurors just in case.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 25, 2011, 01:40:18 AM
Quote from: "finfin"
About 160 potential jurors were sworn in Thursday morning, marking the official start of Murray's trial.

So that is why TMZ never published anything about delays. It did start as planned: March 24. If I recall right, the opening statements will begin as soon as the jury is selected. In 2005 the jury selection took less then a month. If it will take less than a month now as well, opening statements will begin in april, just like TMZ said.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: _Anna_ on March 25, 2011, 03:39:07 AM
Jermaine's twitt

Now the defense's TMZ leak has been plugged, we look fwd to the unhindered process of justice http://sns.ly/6pcmy8 (http://sns.ly/6pcmy8)
about 4 hours ago via web

So who feeds TMZ is not the Jackson family, but Murray's team.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on March 25, 2011, 08:09:45 AM
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Jermaine's twitt

Now the defense's TMZ leak has been plugged, we look fwd to the unhindered process of justice http://sns.ly/6pcmy8 (http://sns.ly/6pcmy8)
about 4 hours ago via web

So who feeds TMZ is not the Jackson family, but Murray's team.

I wonder why Jermaine tweeted about the "leak". People who didn't know about the leak are now getting curious and will check it out at the TMZ site, which is may be the intention ;)
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: pepper on March 25, 2011, 09:39:56 AM
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Jermaine's twitt

Now the defense's TMZ leak has been plugged, we look fwd to the unhindered process of justice http://sns.ly/6pcmy8 (http://sns.ly/6pcmy8)
about 4 hours ago via web

So who feeds TMZ is not the Jackson family, but Murray's team.

"Defense attorneys told Pastor in chambers that a media company hired by the defense had leaked six questions the company had suggested for the jury pool. None of the questions ended up in the final questionnaire, which Pastor earlier ordered sealed.

“It is an embarrassment,” Ed Chernoff, Murray’s attorney, told the judge. Chernoff apologized and said the company would be fired.

After the hearing, Chernoff confirmed that the employee was Miranda Sevcik, a Houston publicist who began working for Murray and his legal team two days after Jackson’s death.

Sevcik declined to comment, beyond wishing the defense well."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... ation.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/03/michael-jacksons-physician-fires-his-publicist-for-leaking-jury-selection-information.html)
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Murray's patients scared he will lose his Nevada, Texas license. In Houston he is many folks' only Doctor.     2:16 PM Jan 13th  via web

Pastor's ruling yesterday is no surprise, now the work begins! 8:54 AM Jan 12th via TwitBird

Murray preliminary- week 2 . Team is feeling optimistic. 8:58 AM Jan 10th via TwitBird

TMZ hates Murray's tie. So much for my Christmas gift! 2:48 PM Jan 6th via web

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Someone claiming to be Dr. Murray has a Twitter account- not true folks!     11:24 AM Feb 12th, 2010  via web  

I want to remember MJ as he was in Thriller- height of his talent and star power     6:20 PM Jun 25th, 2009  via web  

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PHOENIX — The doctor accused of administering a powerful anesthetic that killed pop star Michael Jackson helped stabilize a young woman who fell unconscious on a US Airways jet on Saturday.

Dr. Conrad Murray found the woman with a very weak pulse aboard Flight 641 from Houston, hooked her up to an IV line he got from the plane’s medical bag and monitored her while the jet was diverted to Albuquerque, New Mexico, his spokeswoman said.

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Dr. Conrad Murray to the Rescue -- The Video
Originally posted May 21st 2010 12:30 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

A bunch of you thought the whole mid-air medical emergency with Dr. Conrad Murray and a passenger was a publicity stunt. Well, we just got video that suggests it was the real deal.


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Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: _Anna_ on March 25, 2011, 11:49:55 AM
So it's almost cristal clear that all the stories TMZ has been getting were from Murray and not from the Jacksons. This is the worst thing I've ever came upon regarding TMZ. So they are on the bad side, leaking all the documents and news and everything from the corrupt Murray's team. That's what all these mean. Did I understand it wrong?

We always knew someone IS feeding them. So it's Murray's team.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 25, 2011, 03:26:19 PM
Quote from: "_Anna_"
So it's almost cristal clear that all the stories TMZ has been getting were from Murray and not from the Jacksons. This is the worst thing I've ever came upon regarding TMZ. So they are on the bad side, leaking all the documents and news and everything from the corrupt Murray's team. That's what all these mean. Did I understand it wrong?

We always knew someone IS feeding them. So it's Murray's team.

If you think Murray is bad team and not on MJ's side, you think he's dead. Otherwise your conclusions make no sense at all. I hope we will never have to win a war with you, I would be very concerned.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: _Anna_ on March 25, 2011, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "_Anna_"
So it's almost cristal clear that all the stories TMZ has been getting were from Murray and not from the Jacksons. This is the worst thing I've ever came upon regarding TMZ. So they are on the bad side, leaking all the documents and news and everything from the corrupt Murray's team. That's what all these mean. Did I understand it wrong?

We always knew someone IS feeding them. So it's Murray's team.

If you think Murray is bad team and not on MJ's side, you think he's dead. Otherwise your conclusions make no sense at all. I hope we will never have to win a war with you, I would be very concerned.
I don't know whay you always get defensive no matter who doesn't agree with you. I am not a person who is afraid to express her opinions. It's my right. As it's yours. Don't be so defensive, because you, as me and an all of us here don't know the truth. No one does. So it's your word against my word, and I see no sense in having a win-war with me. No one will win, for the simple fact non of us know the truth. Only the family does and probably even they don't know it all. And you know that. If you don't agree with my opinion, that's fine by me. I don't jump on your opinions. Excluding completely the ipotesis that Murray might be guilty is being blind. I can't just close the eyes, I consider BOTH possibilities.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: _Anna_ on March 25, 2011, 03:39:58 PM
And it's not about any win-war. Believe me that at this point in time, I simply don't care about any win-war. All I care about is the truth. To me now there's nothing clear anymore. Just that I simply don't know what happened. Not anymore. I just want, like all of you, to know what happened to him. I don't even know if we will ever know
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 25, 2011, 03:45:12 PM
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "_Anna_"
So it's almost cristal clear that all the stories TMZ has been getting were from Murray and not from the Jacksons. This is the worst thing I've ever came upon regarding TMZ. So they are on the bad side, leaking all the documents and news and everything from the corrupt Murray's team. That's what all these mean. Did I understand it wrong?

We always knew someone IS feeding them. So it's Murray's team.

If you think Murray is bad team and not on MJ's side, you think he's dead. Otherwise your conclusions make no sense at all. I hope we will never have to win a war with you, I would be very concerned.
I don't know whay you always get defensive no matter who doesn't agree with you. I am not a person who is afraid to express her opinions. It's my right. As it's yours. Don't be so defensive, because you, as me and an all of us here don't know the truth. No one does. So it's your word against my word, and I see no sense in having a win-war with me. No one will win, for the simple fact non of us know the truth. Only the family does and probably even they don't know it all. And you know that. If you don't agree with my opinion, that's fine by me. I don't jump on your opinions. Excluding completely the ipotesis that Murray might be guilty is being blind. I can't just close the eyes, I consider BOTH possibilities.

You are fickle, and it simply doesn't make sense what you say and you never back up your claims. You are only making others doubt by being very negative with a lot of words, yet in fact you say nothing at all.

For your information: I looked at both sides for a long time, and I debunked it by using common sense. If I had posted all my doubts in the past, I would have made many people on here depressed. I am glad I never did, because after thorough investigation, I know now those doubts were unnecessary. You should do some more investigation and think a little longer before you post. And that's MY opinion, whether you like it or not. It sounds to me that you need a serious break from the hoax to rethink without being distracted by 'bad news'.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on March 25, 2011, 03:57:27 PM
There will always be bad news to throw us off, it does not mean that it is the truth.  I have a suggestion, when someone feels that Michael has passed, please revise everything we have found in the forum and reread it. That will put you back on track. blessings.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: _Anna_ on March 25, 2011, 04:02:55 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
You are fickle, and it simply doesn't make sense what you say and you never back up your claims. You are only making others doubt by being very negative with a lot of words, yet in fact you say nothing at all.

For your information: I looked at both sides for a long time, and I debunked it by using common sense. If I had posted all my doubts in the past, I would have made many people on here depressed. I am glad I never did, because after thorough investigation, I know now those doubts were unnecessary. You should do some more investigation and think a little longer before you post. And that's MY opinion, whether you like it or not. It sounds to me that you need a serious break from the hoax to rethink without being distracted by 'bad news'.
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If this is me, why should I refrain if this is what I feel? In the future, maybe, I should keep my thoughts to myself.And no, your opinion doesn't bother me, and I don't have to like it or not, it's your opinion.
 
Maybe, I should refrain from posting what I really think for the sake of the others, but that doesn't change the story. For me now, there's nothing clear. On either side. I think that as far as we are all free to express our opinions, we can say what we think. But it's fine, I will keep it to myself. But please, try to not jump anymore on me or any other who has an opposite opinion from yours, no one seeks war, at least not me. It's what I think and what I believe.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 25, 2011, 04:16:39 PM
That's too easy anna, blaming me for silencing you. If you actually read what I wrote, you would see that I don't care that you have another opinion, I am simply asking you to back up your claims and if you can't, simply count to 10 before you cause drama which will make people doubt, while there is no reason to.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: ibelieveinmj on March 26, 2011, 12:42:53 AM
A central part of Dr. Murray's defense is that Michael Jackson was a hard-core Propofol addict who hid his drug dependence from the doc ... thus Murray wasn't operating with full knowledge.
I rermember a different defense at time of MJ's death and that Murray was weening Michael off the drugs, now he claims he wasn't aware of his drug use.  Geesh !!!  Does anyone else remember that?

The defense is looking for people who believe in personal responsibility, such as small business owners.[/quote]...such as small business owners.  
.. huh?!?!?  what does that have anything to do with?

What really boggles my mind is why does Murray have any involvement with the jurors, even just to greet and smile at them.  I don't get it !!!!    Is there anyone that knows exactly how jurors are selected in a murder case?   This sounds like a freak show :roll:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: PureLove on March 26, 2011, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: "everlastinglove_MJ"
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Jermaine's twitt

Now the defense's TMZ leak has been plugged, we look fwd to the unhindered process of justice http://sns.ly/6pcmy8 (http://sns.ly/6pcmy8)
about 4 hours ago via web

So who feeds TMZ is not the Jackson family, but Murray's team.

I wonder why Jermaine tweeted about the "leak". People who didn't know about the leak are now getting curious and will check it out at the TMZ site, which is may be the intention ;)

Exactly! I got this tweet as a nice clue because Jermaine is directing people to TMZ.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: PureLove on March 26, 2011, 09:04:47 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
That's too easy anna, blaming me for silencing you. If you actually read what I wrote, you would see that I don't care that you have another opinion, I am simply asking you to back up your claims and if you can't, simply count to 10 before you cause drama which will make people doubt, while there is no reason to.

Anna-Tarja. Tarja left and now we have Yulia.  :roll:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 26, 2011, 03:30:26 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
That's too easy anna, blaming me for silencing you. If you actually read what I wrote, you would see that I don't care that you have another opinion, I am simply asking you to back up your claims and if you can't, simply count to 10 before you cause drama which will make people doubt, while there is no reason to.

Anna-Tarja. Tarja left and now we have Yulia.  :roll:

Ah! I didn't even notice. Yes, Yulia sounds pretty familiar.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: Yulia on March 26, 2011, 04:34:04 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
That's too easy anna, blaming me for silencing you. If you actually read what I wrote, you would see that I don't care that you have another opinion, I am simply asking you to back up your claims and if you can't, simply count to 10 before you cause drama which will make people doubt, while there is no reason to.

Anna-Tarja. Tarja left and now we have Yulia.  :roll:

and your point? I am really not up to any type of game or jokes. I have the feeling that this forum begins to raise too many jokes and ironies when in reality is not the case. I will say my opinion as many time as I want. dont like it,it's your right. Don't get what's happening with people. If we all had the same opinion- mass opinion- we would be robots perhaps. It amazes me. I don't think I've ever, since I am on this forum, criticized any opinion. If I answer, I answer on subject. I am not here to agree or disagree with anyone or start a fight if somebody doesn't share my opinion as I don't care about these things as they don't influence me. What is that?

 I close it here as I already give too much talk on a subject I simply not interested in. people always start fights. "How can you say that?/ Stop it!/Get out of here/ You are crazy/Why are you here?" . Wise people act the opposite, they accept points of view and they are conscious they are not forced to agree with any of them if they don't consider doing it and in conclusion they don't start  ironic talks, verbal fights and ect.   You don't like it, ignore it. I do the same. If I were to start now  a talk against every single opinion I disagree with, I wouldn't have time for anything else anymore. I am here for Michael and I don't care what anyone might think about what I say,if they agree or not. If they agree, fine. If they not, also fine. And I mean it. End of talk. This is childish.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 26, 2011, 04:40:41 PM
Quote from: "Yulia"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
That's too easy anna, blaming me for silencing you. If you actually read what I wrote, you would see that I don't care that you have another opinion, I am simply asking you to back up your claims and if you can't, simply count to 10 before you cause drama which will make people doubt, while there is no reason to.

Anna-Tarja. Tarja left and now we have Yulia.  :roll:

and your point? I am really not up to any type of game or jokes. I have the feeling that this forum begins to raise too many jokes and ironies when in reality is not the case. I will say my opinion as many time as I want. dont like it,it's your right. Don't get what's happening with people. If we all had the same opinion- mass opinion- we would be robots perhaps. It amazes me. I don't think I've ever, since I am on this forum, criticized any opinion. If I answer, I answer on subject. I am not here to agree or disagree with anyone or start a fight if somebody doesn't share my opinion as I don't care about these things as they don't influence me. What is that?

 I close it here as I already give too much talk on a subject I simply not interested in. people always start fights. "How can you say that?/ Stop it!/Get out of here/ You are crazy/Why are you here?" . Wise people act the opposite, they accept points of view and they are conscious they are not forced to agree with any of them if they don't consider doing it and in conclusion they don't start  ironic talks, verbal fights and ect.   You don't like it, ignore it. I do the same. If I were to start now  a talk against every single opinion I disagree with, I wouldn't have time for anything else anymore. I am here for Michael and I don't care what anyone might think about what I say,if they agree or not. If they agree, fine. If they not, also fine. And I mean it. End of talk. This is childish.

'Leaving' and then coming back under a new username is childish Tarja. And Michael needs people who have his back no matter what happens. You do not fit that category.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: fordtocarr on March 26, 2011, 07:38:17 PM
They certainty are NOT having luck finding jurors.  Could've we told them THAT???Judge Wants More Prospective Jurors in Trial of Conrad Murray

A judge told attorneys yesterday that he wants more potential jurors summoned to the downtown courthouse for the trial of the doctor charged with involuntary manslaughter in Michael Jackson’s death.

After a meeting in his chambers with attorneys, Los Angeles Superior Court Ju...dge Michael E. Pastor said he had concluded that they “simply do not have a sufficient number of pre-screened, hardship-qualified jurors” in the pool of those who could hear the case against Dr. Conrad Murray.

The judge said more prospective jurors would need to be called in on April 7 to determine if it would be a financial hardship to serve on the case, which is expected to begin in earnest in early May and end by July 1.

The pool of potential jurors currently includes 147 people who were asked — in a process that started Thursday — to fill out extensive questionnaires detailing what they have heard about the case.

They were instructed to return to court on May 4, when attorneys from both sides will begin questioning them.

Opening statements are scheduled for May 9.

Nearly 200 other prospective panelists were released to serve on shorter trials
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 26, 2011, 08:59:06 PM
Lol, so they already expect the trial to last for 8 weeks?
Title: Re: Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
Post by: RK on March 26, 2011, 09:26:20 PM
MJ pulled this hoax on the 25th June which is my wedding aniversary, and if this trial is all over and all is revealed by 1st July, which is my birthday, then that would be the best birthday ever. MJ, if you are reading this, please take this into consideration as you have changed my wedding aniversary date significance forever. A birthday BAM would more than compensate.  :P
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