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« on: November 13, 2010, 01:36:23 PM »
James Porte is aka Bobby Ewing and Eddie has worked with him before. This cracks me up! Bobby Ewing!!! Anybody remember the Dallas show where Bobby 'died' and after a whole season Pam (his wife) dreamt the entire thing - he was ALIVE!!! Love you Michael!
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« on: November 13, 2010, 12:30:47 AM »
@BlackJack
Got something to run by you. It seems things are starting to heat up with first Lisa's interview, then Jackies interview, then Miss Katherines interview, then the release of Breaking News and that would lead us to the actual album cover itself. I have sat here for hours pouring over that thing and each time that I look at it I see something new. Then I reflect on the past interviews mentioned above and my head starts to spin.
And what one common thing do all of the above have in common?? Confusion, lies, media manipulation. We are pawns aren't we? I probably shouldn't include all of us, but unfortunately this is how it had to be done. It kind of reminds me of your post about the girl who didn't act like a fool but yet SHE isn't the one who got the autograph, or maybe she will be getting something better!
We are being taught a lesson with this hoax, so there you have another hoax within a hoax. We are the puppets and we are being watched to see which way we will turn with the next lie. I'm all for it!! I have believed from the very beginning and will continue to believe until the very end - I will take each new blow that comes along and it will make me think just that much harder and I will dig just a little bit deeper to hang on. I know I have a safety net and that safety net is Michael. We all should feel just a little of what he went through and I will be more than happy to do that for him.
So, when does the hoax within a hoax within a hoax finally end? Is it when we least expect it or will it be right in front of us? Is Dead Reckoning right around the corner or is it still calculating?
Love you Michael!
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« on: October 30, 2010, 10:32:22 AM »
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SDG telling people MJ is her husband and she is his secret wife. We have been told all about this in this hoax which includes the movie and now with Lisa Marie herself in the interview with Oprah. I believe during Lisa's interview she was trying to tell us about the hanger ons, she called them vampires/spiders. Oprah brought this particular point up and I always thought how odd it was that such a reference was made about a fan and marriage, now I know why (my opinion only). Listen at approximately the 7:25 mark to approximately the 10:04 mark. You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginFor a person or persons to be so out of reality that they give up their jobs and families to 'follow' someone is beyond any reasoning that I can come up with. And I do not feel sorry for these people what-so-ever. They themselves get caught up in the glamour and start to fantasize because the person that they are stalking was nice to them and they took it to mean more - not my problem or the celebrities problem. Michael is not the only one who has this happendd to; it is a wide spread problem for celebrities. The re-education perhaps could come in some sort of law that requires all media and fans to stay at a respectful distance and if you don't you get fined, a hefty fine. And if you keep doing it, jail time. It is time that all human beings are given the respect that they deserve and this is just one more example of that. Love you Michael!
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« on: October 28, 2010, 11:36:07 PM »
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« on: October 28, 2010, 10:56:16 PM »
When I firsted started with this hoax one of the first things that I ran across were the testimonials from 'the stalkers' who claimed how much they helped Michael at the end because they just knew something was wrong because 1. they had been 'silenced' by the bodyguards - they didn't have access to Michael like they used to 2. he told them that he only agreed to 10 shows and woke up the next day and it was 50 3. he was too thin. Well, the help that they gave him was to write letters to KAREN FAYE expressing their concerns. They said that they couldn't go to a Jackson family member because they didn't want to intervene in family problems. One of the TINI members posted on mj.com and since I distest these people I had to give my two cents worth and told them what I thought of them. IF they were as close to him as they proclaim to be and had access to him I would think that they would have thought of him like family and would have done anything to get him help or go to someone, but no they WROTE LETTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since I do believe Michael is alive and without going into detail, I and a friend had become worried that he might be in danger (this was a few months back) so I called the LAPD. So if I can do something like that why couldn't they have done more then write letters?  ? And did you know that Sam is a photographer? It would be very easy for her to photoshop those pics. I met Sam in June in LA, first at Forest Lawn, then Carolwood, then at court. By the time court day rolled around she wasn't even speaking to us - we found out at that time that yes indeed she was no longer part of TINI, they got tired of her too. Thank God everyone at court didn't know we were believers - they will turn against you in a heart beat!!!!!!!!!!! I think it is possible that Michael was leading these 'fans' on by feeding them information to see what they were going to do with the information and I guess he found out that they weren't really there for him after all. However; this can be two fold as well. He could have been giving them this info to make sure that this hoax stayed alive with the conspiracy theory. Now, what about Karen Faye? I have always had this 'feeling' about her and have never liked her. After reading the posts on here I still don't know if she is in the hoax because that is her part to play or she is in the hoax because she is as bad as 'the stalkers'. My last thought is about what is in the movie. I am a beliver 100% that the movie tells us what we need to know for this hoax. Right before Human Nature starts Michael sings Keeping her around, her around, keeping her around, her around and at the end of Human Nature he says Why did SHE do me that way. The odd thing about this is that he doesn't sing or say any of that in the real song. He says Why does HE do me that way only. Because of this I have always believed that there is a female involved in all of this, I just couldn't figure out who it was. Maybe he was talking about Karen even though she is listed in the credits that could just be a show so nothing would look odd. So, there definately has to be a re-education done about the 'rabid' fans and the role that they do play in the lives of celebrities and the damage that they do cause. Love you Michael!
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« on: October 27, 2010, 01:12:58 AM »
Here's one of those articles which are discussed here. A simple google search for "Jordan Chandler admitting" will give you more results, but I'm just pasting one of them.
Jordan Chandler Admits He Lied about Michael Jackson
June 29, 2009 by antonio
Finally, Jordan Chandler admits he lied about Michael Jackson of indecency, which became the pilot to the court case against the “King of Pop”. Jordan Chandler the child that accused Michael for misbehaving with him finally came forward to tell that the case was based on lies. Evan Chandler was the father of the kid, he never approved the friendship between Jordan and Michael Jackson, and he is the one who accused “King of Pop” for having an unnatural relationship with his son.
Michael and Jordan were friends but Jordan’s father never approved their friendship, encouraged by his father Jordan charged “MJ” for the indecency in their relation. The case hit the streets, newspapers and tabloids and the only names people knew back then were Michael Jackson, Jordan and Evan Chandler, and media and law firms are hounding Michael Jackson.
It would be better if I do not make it all in favor of Michael Jackson, but it seems like we might never be able to know the truth. It is very much possible that Michael or his family have used their money to bribe or buy Even and Jordan and they have changed their statements, but who knows.
Anyway, these are the rumors I have heard over the internet and decided to write about it. After Michael Jackson’s death, Chandler has come forward and said that he made up the story just to insult the “King of Pop” for the money.
Now it is your turn to leave the comments and tell that according to you what can be the correct possibility.
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- Don't you think that this would have made major headlines had Jordan indeed admitting he lied..?
- Non of the articles on the internet about this lists a source.
- There have been no confirmed reports of Jordan Chandler admitting to the statement.
Jordan Chandler has been silent about Michael Jackson for years, and has remained silent until this very day. It's my opinion that unless Jordan and/or Gavin Arvizo speak up, it will be very difficult to changes the minds of the general public who still think Mike is guilty of molesting children. I don't think we will ever hear from Arvizo, I still have my hopes on Jordan.[/b]
@ MO ---> In total agreement with Points 1 (Answer: YES), 2 & 3 above, I came to the same conclusions a while back.
What I would really like to see, is Jordan Chandler or Gavin Arvizo (Though I think the latter is a lost cause!) live on Oprah (By phone to preserve his/their identity) and admitting that it was all a lie! This would really make BIG news and it would be the right way to do it... I hope this will happen!
With L.O.V.E
can anyone think of any way that something like this could work it's way into the murry trial?
Yes, it can be part of the trial. If you have noticed how the Murray hearings and the 2005 trial are parallel with each other (same court dates for both, same clothes that are being worn........) the molestation can easily be part of the trial. Murray's case is going to reveal so much when it is finally over - In what will go down in HIStory as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the HIStory of our nation. And everything, in my opinion, all relates to Katherines claim for damages suit as well. Love you Michael!
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« on: October 24, 2010, 01:43:18 PM »
Thank you everyone!
Love you Michael!
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« on: October 24, 2010, 01:39:01 PM »
Why in the world would Lisa even have thought about a custody battle? Who thinks about this when the talk of having children comes up? In my opinion she talked with the officials at her Scientology Church and perhaps it was mentioned just how powerful Michael is. Afterall Lisa did promise to have a baby, so what happend to change her mind? And isn't Oprah a Scientologist?
Before you go into a marriage, there is always the discussion of having kids, this is the one thing that both of you need to be on the same page about otherwise there will be arguments and hurt feelings, just like what happened with Lisa and Michael.
There were other issues other than the baby that drove them apart and perhaps Michael just got tired of it all and wanted a baby and found a way to have one - she called his bluff and lost. Sometimes two people are attracted to each other and do love each other but they just can't be married to each other.
Love you Michael!
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« on: October 24, 2010, 01:09:27 PM »
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Register or LoginANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES
Michael Jackson Traveled with Mini Clinic; Debbie Rowe Might Seek Custody; Two Plane Crashes, One Survivor; Missing U.S. Service Member Believed Held in Pakistan
Aired July 2, 2009 - 23:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: Tonight, a number of major developments in the Michael Jackson investigation to tell you about. Let's get started.
We're going to show you video we first obtained of Michael Jackson's last full rehearsal. As well as my interview with the men who saw him last the night before he died at the Staples Center.
Also, confirmation Debbie Rowe may fight for custody of two of Jackson's children. We'll have all the developments on that.
But we begin with potentially significant breaking news, news you'll only see here on 360. As you know a registered nurse who had worked for Jackson three months ago has claimed he asked her for a powerful intravenous sedative drug three months before his death.
Tonight, new information on Jackson's history with potent sleep drugs -- 360 M.D. Sanjay Gupta has been on the trail of a doctor who we've learned worked for Jackson on tour in the late 1990s, an anesthesiologist himself with a checkered medical past. Sanjay what have you learned?
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I'll tell you. We know several things now. Sources close to Michael Jackson tell us that during the "History" tour back in '96 and '97 Jackson was actually traveling with what looked like a mini clinic, including an IV pole, drips and what looked like a rack with lights and monitors and such.
Sources who had the opportunity to see Jackson at various points during the tour say Jackson was traveling with at least two doctors and one of whom was anesthesiologist Dr. Neil Ratner.
Now, one source said he asked Ratner about all this elaborate equipment, and Ratner said he was there because Michael simply couldn't sleep. Now Ratner went on to say, according to the source, "I take him down at night" -- referring to Jackson -- "and I bring him back up in the morning."
Now, a source said Michael Jackson often appeared groggy. And when the source asked Jackson about all of this equipment, he just said he needed sleep. So, it was pretty remarkable, Anderson, to just hear that so clearly. COOPER: Well Sanjay, I mean, over the past couple of nights we've talked to each other about how dangerous powerful anesthetics can be. Do we know anything about precautions taken to protect Jackson on this tour?
GUPTA: Yes, we do. Sources say that Ratner would keep the equipment in his hotel room, which would be next to Jackson's. And he would use that for monitoring Jackson's vital signs when he was asleep, or under, as the source put it.
Now, there was a "Vanity Fair" article that said a former business associate of Jackson's said the singer had a quote, "sleep disorder," and then Ratner confirmed that to us today on the phone.
But I really want to talk to him some more, so we tracked him down, Anderson, today at the Woodstock, New York, where he now lives with his wife. Here's what he had to say.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GUPTA (on camera): We've come here because your name was obviously associated with Michael Jackson. And people said that there was a question of whether or not you gave anesthesia to him while he was on tour. And we just wanted to come to the source, you, and hear and find out if that had happened.
DR. NEIL RATNER, FORMER PHYSICIAN OF MICHAEL JACKSON'S: I'm very upset. I'm distraught. Michael was a good person.
I can't talk about it right now. It's really something I don't want to talk about right now. I've lost a friend and I feel very badly about that.
GUPTA: There were two people, and I just want to allow you to respond to this. And you can or you don't have to. But I think it's important that you hear this. We have a couple of different sources have said they would see IV equipment, what sounded like probably pumps, they described as sort of an audio rack sort of looking thing in a hotel room with Michael. And they made it sound like that was your stuff. Are they wrong? I was really...
RATNER: I don't want to talk about this topic at all now. I really have nothing to say about it right now. You know? The man hasn't had a funeral, and the man hasn't been buried. It's inappropriate. I don't want to talk about it right now. And I appreciate it if we could end this now.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUPTA: So, who is Dr. Neil Ratner? Well, he's a board-certified doctor who, as we mentioned, served as one of Jackson's doctors on that "History" tour that spanned '96-'97; over 80 performances on that tour.
Now, Ratner was actually stripped of his medical license for three years back in 2002 after being found guilty of insurance fraud -- Anderson.
COOPER: So, back to the hotel rooms, the "History" tour. Did Ratner or your sources say anything about seeing -- there's been talk about this drug Diprivan or Propofol in the last couple days because of this registered nurse who said that Jackson asked her for that three months ago. And has the sources mention anything about that?
GUPTA: Well, there's no specific mention of those -- medication Propofol, also know as Diprivan, no specific medication. But it's worth noting that, now we're talking back in '97. At that time at least Propofol wasn't nearly as commonly used as it is today. But there weren't specific drugs mentioned, just that equipment -- Anderson.
COOPER: Is it odd to you as a medical doctor to have an anesthesiologist with somebody on a tour?
GUPTA: Completely odd. No question, very odd, and to have all that equipment as well. I've never heard of such a thing, to have that equipment outside some sort of medical setting. So you know, I'm hearing things that frankly I've never heard of before as a doctor.
COOPER: All right. Sanjay, obviously a lot still we don't know. And just to be clear, we do not know what, if any drugs, Michael Jackson was taking for insomnia or for any other reason. And we won't know until the toxicology reports are made public.
I talked with Jackson's concert promoter today, who told me at point blank the singer had passed a five-hour insurance physical with flying colors. That interview later on in this hour.
But I want to show you some of the last images ever recorded of Michael Jackson performing. This is Tuesday night, two days before he died; a full-length dress rehearsal for his upcoming show. Take a look.
(VIDEO CLIP)
COOPER: The tape a very vivid reminder that no matter what information comes out in the next weeks or days or months even, that tape reminds us all, that this is a story about a man who died far too soon, a remarkable performer the world has lost.
We're going to show you the whole tape later on this hour.We all know how many conflicting stories that we have had since June 25th and that seems to go along with stories from over a decade ago as well!! With the grueling schedule that a concert does bring, I can't imagine anyone not needing 'something' to help them unwind especially when you are performing every other day or every two days. Will you be there? Yes, Michael we will be here no matter what. Love you Michael!
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« on: October 23, 2010, 08:44:33 PM »
how does that work when they go on tour. i mean is it solid time or is there a break in between.the reason i ask is because prince was born during that tour time. when debbie testified in the 2005 trial appartently when she was ask a question about something she turned to michael and asked something like what tours did we go on. (luna jo 67 wdhtmj # 42, 44 something like that). makes me wonder if the whole thing wasn't more about debbie and prince being there .of course i am delusional. There was a break during the HIStory tour: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginJanuary 3, 1997 Honolulu United States Aloha Stadium 35,000 January 4, 1997 This was the end of the first leg and then leg 2 started: May 31, 1997 June 3, 1997 June 6, 1997 June 8, 1997 June 10, 1997 June 13, 1997 June 15, 1997 June 18, 1997 June 20, 1997 June 22, 1997 June 25, 1997 So yes, there was a break when Prince was born. Love you Michael!
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« on: October 23, 2010, 08:38:11 PM »
I don't think Michael wants to be president.
A rebel would never win the elections anyway. I agree, however; Michael could serve on some panels as a board member (which he has done in the past) on various causes and give directions and insight. Love you Michael!
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« on: October 23, 2010, 08:30:09 PM »
There have been a couple of posts suggesting that maybe Michael and Lisa are married instead of her being married to Michael Lockwood. If this is true how many of us would ever trust Michael ever again? To make it seem that Lisa is married to someone else (plus having twins) when in fact her and Michael are married would in my mind be a reason for me to stop believing in Michael. I know that each of us has a right to be married to anyone that we want to be married to but I just can't see Michael deceiving anyone like this when we are having a hard enough time with him being gone. Just my opinion.
And as far as when this show was taped, I believe Lisa and her family moved to the UK in August of this year, so that would make it summer and don't forget that Oprah said her and Lisa went on a hike that summer, maybe that was a hint on when this was filmed.
I thought overall the interview was good but as usual anything coming from Lisa when it comes to Michael makes you go hmmm sometimes. I think she's pissed because she was 'disposable' and she lost at her own game with him.
Love you Michael!
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« on: October 23, 2010, 06:41:14 PM »
Saying hello to all of you who are believers that Michael is alive and that we are on one huge adventure! I have believed from the beginning and haven't stopped searching on what happened and why. Many theories have come and gone and that one puzzle piece seems to still be missing that will tie all of this together.
Happy investigating to all!
Love you Michael!
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« on: October 23, 2010, 06:28:13 PM »
Since I am new here I am bouncing from place to place to see what has already been talked about and came upon one of my favorite subjects - the ambulance at UCLA! Yep, the date stamp does say 06-24-2009 - when I first saw this a long time ago all I could think of was what Ben said, "that day and the other day". Here are two pics where I have done some comparing on where things line up: Pic 1: ![]() Pic 2: ![]() I labeled the tiles and you can see that things don't line up to each pic, and we have a gap between the ambulance and the door....now even taking into consideration different camera angles reflections shouldn't move from tile to tile. You can even see where the reflectors on the side of the ambulance don't even match up. Original Pic 1: ![]() Original Pic 2 (the one dated 06-24-09) ![]() Here is what I have in the property section for the one dated June 24-09: Title: michael jackson hospital arrival 250609 Description: Michael Jackson arriving by ambulance at the UCLA Medical Center, after suffering fatal heart attack at the age of 50. Los Angels, California - 25.06.09 ***no TMZ, no Access Hollywood, no Extra, no Inside Edition, no Entertainment Tonight. Available for the rest of the world*** Credit: (Mandatory) WENN.com Camera Model: nothing listed Date Taken: 6/24/2009 8:00 PM (I have 2 other times of 6:00 PM and 7:00 PM - I think it refers to time zones) Other captions on this picture: michael-jackson-arrives-via-ambulance-at-ucla-medical-center Type: JPEG Image Date taken: 6/24/2009 7 PM Rating: Unrated Dimensions: 640x427 Size: 45.7 KB Title: michael jackson hospital arrival 250609 Description Title: michael jackson hospital arrival 250609 Origin: Authors: HTA/ZOJ ( am assuming these are the initials of the people involved) Date Taken: 6/24/2009 6:00 PM Copyright: WENN.com I too see the different time stamps and am not sure what that means unless somehow time zones are figured in somehow. From these two pics I think we have two different ambulances that were at UCLA. And also look that there are actually different people in the pics as well. Love you Michael!
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« on: October 23, 2010, 03:08:01 PM »
I thought I'd share some thoughts in general about this whole situation that all of us on this forum are voluntarily participating in. We already understand that MJ knows all about how to use the Power of Mystery : holding back, keeping things hidden and not giving EVERYTHING away, makes people WANT IT more. This is just a simple fact of Human Nature, no magic involved...... yet it creates magic! It stimulates people's minds and they conjure up all sorts of ideas as to what they think is going on. I beLIEve that's what MJ wants to SEE -- people interacting and what types of theories they come up with. It's as much a human experiment in observation as anything else, and if it raises people's awareness in other areas of global importance, then that's a terrific by - product bonus.
Howard Hughes also knew how to make the public interested in him... ring any bells! It was interesting how the hoax involving the writing of Howard Hughes' autobiography played out. It's food for thought.
I think we would all agree that MJ has earned the right to observe the world away from the spotlight for a while, given that he has been on public display for a lifetime with people scrutinizing his every move and judging him without even knowing him personally. Despite all of the trials and tribulations he has handled himself with a lot of grace considering the ordeals he has been subjected to. There has been a lot of fantastic investigating and examination of information going on over the last 15 months but we still need to focus on the man and his messages as I don't think that speculation on which way his chest hair grows is what he meant when he asked that we "discover the man you never knew". I have just watched TII again and thought that I would go back to the original posting from BlackJack and after reading it I couldn't put the movie and the post together, entirely. I do agree however that part of this hoax is for Michael to 'become himself' once again and to be away from the public eye to do this but if you think about it he would not have had to create an elaborate escape such as he did if all he wanted to do was to be out of the spotlight. He could have moved far, far away to some little country and been able to accomplish that. It has been said that Michael wasn't broke so financially this was feasable. So if that isn't it, then what is it? Well, I am a 100% believer that the movie tells us exactly what we need to know on why this happened. If you listen closely to the songs that were picked and what lines are sung you will hear what he went through in his career, both professionally and privately. For instance Beat It, Billie Jean, Man in the Mirror and of course the music to Threatened at the end of Thriller and Vincent Price speaking during Thriller. Beat it has no one wants to be defeated, in Billie Jean the words the lie becomes the truth were never spoken, Man in the Mirror talks about one person making a change (Michael) and with Threatened since there are no words that are spoken you only have the music and the title to the song. Thriller itself (when Price is speaking) talks about someone having a grip on you and being in a crypt. Of course Michael has many sides to him and yes this is what 'the man you never knew' is all about. He does want us to carry on his message but this hoax is much bigger than that. I think Michael was at a point of possibly no return - I do look at different angles but none of those ever seem to end up making sense so I always end up back to my original belief of Michael being in trouble both physically and emotionally. He gave us his all during his lifetime but yet was still able to give us one more piece of himself with the movie....for the fans.......He always said he loves us more and he proved it one more time. And too keep in mind the good doctor Murray in all of this. The court system would not be going through all of this for just some hoax, at least not for this length of time. We are talking tax payers money, so I believe that there really is going to be a trial but of course Murray won't be going to jail, but the ones he represent will be. I of course can be totally wrong with what I believe but I always seem to come back to that belief, not because I don't want to believe anything else, but because this is what the evidence that I have found says it to be. I honestly don't care why this was done, I just want Michael safe and ok. Love you Michael!
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