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One more thing.....lets not forget shall we that the 911 call was placed from a cell phone from a hotel down the road....and the fact that Murray said there were no phones in the bedrrom yet,the autopsy report said there were..........Just another clue guys...
Quote from: "lisap27"so 2 points eithera) he has just hung drawn and quatered hiself ORb) there was a major balls up with his script, and he forgot his lines and the truth will prevail shortly i prefer the 2nd one myself!!or c) he came onto this forum, realised that many of us have been saying that the timeline doesn't add up and though "Oh sh1t. I really messed that up. Must do damage limitation - quick!"
so 2 points eithera) he has just hung drawn and quatered hiself ORb) there was a major balls up with his script, and he forgot his lines and the truth will prevail shortly i prefer the 2nd one myself!!
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"One more thing.....lets not forget shall we that the 911 call was placed from a cell phone from a hotel down the road....and the fact that Murray said there were no phones in the bedrrom yet,the autopsy report said there were..........Just another clue guys...i recall that the 911-caller (bodyguard alvarez?) said he had his workphone registered with the address of the beverly wilshire cuz he worked there before and you have to submit an address when you get your phone. that's why that address showed up, i think i saw that on youtube where someone had the ambulance screen. below was the call from the 'hotel phone', above that was michael's address the caller had given them. makes sense to me. but maybe they're just saying that, too...the bedroom was allegedly not michael's usual bedroom but the room murray stayed in and murray claimed that the phones were not set to make outgoing calls. if this was a guestroom i could imagine that, too, if you want to make sure your guests (or employees?) are not running up your phone bill. i can't really imagine that michael would be so suspicious of his guests that he would block the phones or maybe they were just intercom phones. maybe he had just one 'masterphone' in his room and everybody else has cellphones anyway. i could imagine that he provided his employees with cellphones instead of giving up his house phone no., so they could act in his name but have individual and personal numbers (like housekeeper, chef, security...).otherwise, it is indeed odd to have phones in a room and not be able to make calls. murray messing up his lines again?another one: murray claimed he had to get someone cuz he didn't know the 'physical address' of michael's residence. how can you be a studied man, practicing doctor over years, with patients you go see personally and not know or remember their physical addresses? even if he had to use a navigation system in his car, he would have to type that in at least once, so he had to have the address somewhere. the time he wasted looking for someone, he could have gotten that out of his car with the 911dispatcher already on his cellphone. he ran downstairs and left his patient, so he could have done that, too.
I like this more, because I wrote on DR. Murray topic that 10:50 hours was already a big problem because MJ should have been to rehearsals at 2:00 a.m. so who can believe he would sleep just for 2 hours and then to go to Staples? Now if Murray changes his statement and the time will be closer to 14:00 a.m. WILL BE A HUGE PROBLEM, and maybe they want us to believe that MJ was trying to sleep 15-30 minutes :lol: :lol: yes Travis and Kenny O. said that MJ should have come at Staples at 14:00 a.m. and in that day the illusionists would have come there too. please read my post about that video release reffered to Murray's phone call to a patient named Bob, I found something, and I don't know if I'm right, but for me this phone call to Bob is really strange. I can't put it here, I believe it's a double post.
Quote from: "akiraka"I like this more, because I wrote on DR. Murray topic that 10:50 hours was already a big problem because MJ should have been to rehearsals at 2:00 a.m. so who can believe he would sleep just for 2 hours and then to go to Staples? Now if Murray changes his statement and the time will be closer to 14:00 a.m. WILL BE A HUGE PROBLEM, and maybe they want us to believe that MJ was trying to sleep 15-30 minutes :lol: :lol: yes Travis and Kenny O. said that MJ should have come at Staples at 14:00 a.m. and in that day the illusionists would have come there too. please read my post about that video release reffered to Murray's phone call to a patient named Bob, I found something, and I don't know if I'm right, but for me this phone call to Bob is really strange. I can't put it here, I believe it's a double post.Provide a link to your post.
Quote from: "tabloidburn"Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"One more thing.....lets not forget shall we that the 911 call was placed from a cell phone from a hotel down the road....and the fact that Murray said there were no phones in the bedrrom yet,the autopsy report said there were..........Just another clue guys...i recall that the 911-caller (bodyguard alvarez?) said he had his workphone registered with the address of the beverly wilshire cuz he worked there before and you have to submit an address when you get your phone. that's why that address showed up, i think i saw that on youtube where someone had the ambulance screen. below was the call from the 'hotel phone', above that was michael's address the caller had given them. makes sense to me. but maybe they're just saying that, too...the bedroom was allegedly not michael's usual bedroom but the room murray stayed in and murray claimed that the phones were not set to make outgoing calls. if this was a guestroom i could imagine that, too, if you want to make sure your guests (or employees?) are not running up your phone bill. i can't really imagine that michael would be so suspicious of his guests that he would block the phones or maybe they were just intercom phones. maybe he had just one 'masterphone' in his room and everybody else has cellphones anyway. i could imagine that he provided his employees with cellphones instead of giving up his house phone no., so they could act in his name but have individual and personal numbers (like housekeeper, chef, security...).otherwise, it is indeed odd to have phones in a room and not be able to make calls. murray messing up his lines again?another one: murray claimed he had to get someone cuz he didn't know the 'physical address' of michael's residence. how can you be a studied man, practicing doctor over years, with patients you go see personally and not know or remember their physical addresses? even if he had to use a navigation system in his car, he would have to type that in at least once, so he had to have the address somewhere. the time he wasted looking for someone, he could have gotten that out of his car with the 911dispatcher already on his cellphone. he ran downstairs and left his patient, so he could have done that, too.I was not aware of Alverez having worked at the Bev Wil previously. Why wouldnt he submit his HOME address when he bought his phone. Sorry, I dont own a cell phone so I dont know how it works..LOL!! There was a huge thread about the ambie computer photo on here...I lost track of it though so I dont know how the thread ended...
Adding a surprising twist to the Michael Jackson homicide investigation Dr. Conrad Murray’s attorney Michael Flanagan tells RadarOnline.com exclusively that his client made a mistake when he was initially interviewed by the LAPD following Michael Jackson’s death in June 2009.Dr. Conrad Murray Pleads Not Guilty – Bail Set At $75k"Dr. Murray's timeline of events that day when Michael Jackson died is wrong,” Flanagan says. “Doctors make mistakes, and that is what he did, and it was simply just that, a mistake.”Dr. Murray changing the story that he initially told police in the aftermath of Jackson’s death is a significant event for both the prosecution and the defense.According to police reports Dr. Murray initially told the LAPD that he administered the powerful sedative Propofol to Jackson at 10.50am, and that he then left Jackson alone for two minutes to go to the bathroom. Murray then went on to say that when he returned to Jackson’s room he wasn’t breathing and this is when he began CPR. PHOTOS: Dr. Conrad Murray Arrives At CourtHowever, the 911 call wasn’t actually made until 12.21 pm, considerably after Murray stated that he had discovered Jackson in distress and started CPR. In addition, a voicemail message was released Monday that Murray reportedly made at 11.54 am to another patient of his, Bob Russell. In the voicemail Murray sounds calm and collected as he informs his patient about the results of a heart scan. That’s a situation that seems incredible if Murray had in fact been performing CPR on Jackson for approximately an hour before the call.AUDIO: Listen To Dr. Murray's Message To Bob RussellBut now Flanagan says that Murray was wrong about the timing of events. He would not, however, get more specific about when Murray found Jackson in distress.PHOTOS: The Jackson Family Arrive At CourtThe timeline of events surrounding the death of Jackson will most likely be central to the criminal case against Dr. Murray. Some reports say that both the defense and the prosecution plan to use the newly surfaced voicemail as a centerpiece to their case. Murray’s legal team aims to discredit cops' initial interviews with their client in a bid to convince a jury that they bungled the situation, according to some sources. VIDEO: Crowd Shouts “Murderer” As Dr. Murray Arrives At Court But Flanagan, who still hasn't received formal discovery from the prosecutors, and hasn't heard the official voicemail message that Dr. Murray left for Bob Russell, says that he believes his client simply made a mistake when it came to the timeline that fateful day. "Dr. Murray's timeline was wrong," he told RadarOnline.com, adding that he also believes there is another phone call that has not been uncovered. And that other voicemail is reportedly a phone call between Murray and his girlfriend in Houston, shortly after noon. 911 was called at 12:21.So if Murray did administer Propofol to Jackson at 10:50 am as he initially told police, it would be natural for cops to assume he did not come back and check on Jackson until several minutes after mid-day, when he rushed off the phone to go to Jackson’s aide. That would mean he most likely left Jackson alone for approximately 73 minutes – not two minutes as he claimed -- after administering Propofol, which would be extremely damaging to his defense. Murray’s calm phone call to a patient at 11:54 am would fit a police theory that he did not check on Jackson after administering Propofol.Now, with Flanagan saying Murray was wrong about the timeline, it favorably (for Murray) explains why he was calm during the call to his patient and does not make it look like the doctor left Jackson alone for a long time after administering Propofol.
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