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Title: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: *Mo* on September 20, 2010, 02:22:26 AM
Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
about a minute ago by TMZ Staff  

Michael Jackson's death is Exhibit A for California lobbyists who are pushing for a law restricting the use of Propofol.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/09/17/0623-mj-getty-ex-01-credit.jpg)

Michael's Law is being pushed by a group of people ... all of whom have lost loved ones to the misuse of Propofol. They've been going door-to-door in L.A. and Santa Barbrara -- handing out leaflets that describe the drug and how it killed MJ.

Their goal is "to prevent doctors from making careless choices, and stop them from administrating drugs that should not be administered outside of the hospital setting."

The Drug Enforcement Administration just announced it's considering tighter restrictions on Propofol.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/20/michael-j ... alifornia/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/20/michael-jackson-death-propofol-law-california/)
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: wishingstar on September 20, 2010, 02:56:06 AM
I have always wondered if some part of this was all done to bring down dirty doctors.  The docs in Hollywood that are supplying drugs.  I think Michael was very affected by James Brown's death.  Perhaps that was a turning point.
BTW- where did this picture of MJ come from?  It's interesting with that award (?) and doll case (?) in the background.......the case reminds me of the doll/toy display we saw at the Encino house.  Wonder what the award(?) is from....it's a pyramid (lol) TMZ uses some interesting photos!
Thanks for the post Mo!

Blessings Always!
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: mjfansince4 on September 20, 2010, 03:06:50 AM
never seen that picture before either. wow, i honestly didn't know propofol was so heavily abused.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: ForstAMoon on September 20, 2010, 03:26:07 AM
very interesting indeed.

BTW, the picture comes from MJ Capitol Hill visit as a guest of congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee in March 2004. He discussed with members of Congress his commitment to fighting the epidemic of AIDS in Africa.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: JukeBox on September 20, 2010, 06:32:14 AM
"Michael's Law"??

This is interesting... i had the impression that the use of Propofol outside hospital settings was practically unheard of before Michael Jackson, and now TMZ is reporting that there were more deaths related to Propofol misuse..?

not sure whether to take this article seriously, but it's good that there's a closer inspection of docs and drug-misuse.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: trublu on September 20, 2010, 06:34:29 AM
"Michael's Law" Love it!

Anyone know where that photo's from?
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: ForstAMoon on September 20, 2010, 06:40:18 AM
Quote from: "trublu"
"Michael's Law" Love it!

Anyone know where that photo's from?

Quote
BTW, the picture comes from MJ Capitol Hill visit as a guest of congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee in March 2004. He discussed with members of Congress his commitment to fighting the epidemic of AIDS in Africa.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: trublu on September 20, 2010, 06:41:37 AM
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
Quote from: "trublu"
"Michael's Law" Love it!

Anyone know where that photo's from?

Quote
BTW, the picture comes from MJ Capitol Hill visit as a guest of congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee in March 2004. He discussed with members of Congress his commitment to fighting the epidemic of AIDS in Africa.

So sorry! Missed that!  :oops:

Thanks for pointing it out. :)
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: GINAFELICIA on September 20, 2010, 06:44:28 AM
The photo get my attention too. The pyramid, the doll and Michael's look. And of course Michael's Law  :lol:
Just look into his eyes, the eyes of the man we never knew.
Usually TMZ posts a photo in a corner, not  a whole picture of Michael. Could this mean something ? I think yes, but don't know what yet.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: trublu on September 20, 2010, 06:51:10 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
The photo get my attention too. The pyramid, the doll and Michael's look. And of course Michael's Law  :lol:
Just look into his eyes, the eyes of the man we never knew.
Usually TMZ posts a photo in a corner, not  a whole picture of Michael. Could this mean something ? I think yes, but don't know what yet.

Also I have noticed that they normally post him with sunglasses on with something reflected in them. I know, I am losing it. :lol:
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: ForstAMoon on September 20, 2010, 06:51:55 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
The photo get my attention too. The pyramid, the doll and Michael's look. And of course Michael's Law  :lol:
Just look into his eyes, the eyes of the man we never knew.
Usually TMZ posts a photo in a corner, not  a whole picture of Michael. Could this mean something ? I think yes, but don't know what yet.


There are apparently some references to "Michael's law" out there, one example is "driving while intoxicated" in New Jersey http://www.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/governor ... pl?id=1708 (http://www.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/governor/njnewsline/view_article_archives.pl?id=1708)
but I have no clue whether there is any link here or TMZ is just calling Propofol proposed restrictions Michael's Law :?
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: GINAFELICIA on September 20, 2010, 07:06:27 AM
Quote from: "trublu"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
The photo get my attention too. The pyramid, the doll and Michael's look. And of course Michael's Law  :lol:
Just look into his eyes, the eyes of the man we never knew.
Usually TMZ posts a photo in a corner, not  a whole picture of Michael. Could this mean something ? I think yes, but don't know what yet.

Also I have noticed that they normally post him with sunglasses on with something reflected in them. I know, I am losing it. :lol:

Yes, this time we see his eyes, he knows we want to see his eyes, even if he looks great with sunglasses  :D

This direct look maybe tells us he's closer to us than usual :?  ?
Anyway, he looks like he's watching something with interest and a little amused
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: PJ4MJ on September 20, 2010, 07:56:18 AM
There's only one other story on this out there so far that I've found (as of 5:40 am California time), and their source is, of course, TMZ:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... ug_1167109 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/calls-to-restrict-jackson-death-drug_1167109)
"A group of campaigners, who have all reportedly lost loved ones to Propofol, are calling for "Michael's Law" and are handing out leaflets in Los Angeles and Santa Barbara, California urging residents to join their bid "to prevent doctors from making careless choices, and stop them from administrating drugs that should not be administered outside of the hospital setting."

I live in San Diego and will be watching the news for any mention of Michael's Law.  Like Jukebox, though, I question the face value of this.  I find it hard to believe there are enough people (just in the LA area) who have lost loved ones to Propofol outside of a hospital setting that they can form their own group.  TMZ hasn't reported what the name of the group is, either.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: *Mo* on September 20, 2010, 08:03:50 AM
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/09/17/0623-mj-getty-ex-01-credit.jpg)

Alt text: 0623-mj-getty-ex-01.  
File name and location: http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/09/17/0623 ... credit.jpg (http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/09/17/0623-mj-getty-ex-01-credit.jpg)

TMZ always uses the date they (plan to) publish and article in the file name and alt text, but I can't find this pic in their archives.  I'd like to know what article they planned to publish on June 23 (of whatever year), and why they decided not to.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: PJ4MJ on September 20, 2010, 08:05:48 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
about a minute ago by TMZ Staff  

Michael Jackson's death is Exhibit A for California lobbyists who are pushing for a law restricting the use of Propofol.

The Drug Enforcement Administration just announced it's considering tighter restrictions on Propofol.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/20/michael-j ... alifornia/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/20/michael-jackson-death-propofol-law-california/)

Hardly - See this CNN article from July 15, 2009:
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-07-15/heal ... =PM:HEALTH (http://articles.cnn.com/2009-07-15/health/propofol.dea.jackson_1_diprivan-propofol-drug?_s=PM:HEALTH)

The Drug Enforcement Administration said Wednesday it's considering tighter restrictions on propofol, a drug reportedly found after Michael Jackson's death in the Holmby Hills, California, mansion he rented.

"We were petitioned and have been been looking into it for the past two years," said DEA spokesman Rusty Payne, who added in response to a question that the inquiry had not been affected by the singer's death of cardiac arrest on June 25.

The agency is looking at designating the sedative as a "scheduled" drug, which would tighten restrictions on the its distribution and use.

Payne said he could not divulge anything related to the Jackson investigation, "but I can tell you that researchers making the decision about propofol would typically be interested in any information that would help them answer questions about the effects of propofol and its potential harm to the user."

Propofol, known by the trade name of Diprivan, is administered intravenously in operating rooms as a powerful anesthetic and sedative.

Payne said concern about the drug's potential for abuse led to the petition. But, he added, "as far as we know, this is not something that's been highly abused."

Payne said he did not know who had sought the change, adding, "Typically we would not make that public."

The process required to get a drug scheduled is a lengthy one, involving a number of agencies, he said.

"Lots of experts weigh in on questions such as potential for abuse, pharmacological effects, history and current patterns abuse," he said.

Nutritionist Cherilyn Lee has said Jackson pleaded for the drug as a sleep aid, despite being told of its potentially harmful effects.

And sources close to Jackson told CNN that the insomniac singer traveled with an anesthesiologist who would "take him down" at night and "bring him back up" during a world tour in the mid-1990s.

The Associated Press and The Los Angeles Times, citing unidentified sources, have reported that police found Diprivan among Jackson's medicines.

Officials have said that the exact cause of death and whether drug use may have been involved will not be determined until after toxicology tests are completed, which could be several weeks.

On Monday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a health advisory, saying two lots of a generic version of the drug had tested positive for endotoxin, a contaminant. The drug maker, Teva Pharmaceuticals, voluntarily recalled the lots. No fatalities were reported.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: simplyme on September 20, 2010, 09:01:01 AM
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
never seen that picture before either. wow, i honestly didn't know propofol was so heavily abused.

Every coin has a flip side.  Look at it that way.  Medical professionals take it themselves and o.d.  That's been on the rise for many years.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: paula-c on September 20, 2010, 10:23:29 AM
PJ4MJ, I did the same question to myself, there are so many people who uses propofol out of a hospital?, probably this news has another connotation and it is that it could be investigating to some doctors that to prescribe drugs in exchange for a lot of money. It is strange that TMZ places it of " Michael's law " :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: lovemj4everandever on September 20, 2010, 10:53:58 AM
I'm not really sure how this makes any sense, considering that Teva announced back in May it was going to stop manufacturing propofol according to Reuters...
 
Thu May 27, 2010 8:54pm EDT

LOS ANGELES May 27 (Reuters) - Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd (TEVA.TA) (TEVA.O) said on Thursday that it has decided to discontinue manufacturing propofol.

The drug is used to sedate patients before medical procedures.

Teva said in an emailed statement that it will continue to support product that is already on the market.

The FDA warned Teva, in a December 2009 letter released last month, that a 2009 inspection showed problems with the manufacture of propofol at a Teva plant in Irvine, California.

The company had failed, for example, to test each lot of raw materials used to make propofol for certain toxins, the FDA said.

Israel-based Teva earlier this month was ordered by a Las Vegas court to pay $356 million in punitive damages to a Nevada man who contracted hepatitis C two years ago after the anesthetic was reused for colonoscopy or endoscopy procedures.

Teva made the drug and Baxter International Inc (BAX.N) distributed it. Baxter was ordered to pay $144 million.

Teva said it plans to appeal, believes the evidence shows it acted responsibly and the clinic did not follow instructions to change needles after each patient. (Reporting by Deena Beasley; editing by Carol Bishopric)

Article can be found here at Reuters...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2714180620100528 (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2714180620100528)
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: lovemj4everandever on September 20, 2010, 11:39:48 AM
Oddly enough (lol) apparently, there are TWO different Michael Jackson's laws.  I had seen this a few weeks ago and thought it was great!

It's Michael Jackson's law against unfair journalism..   ;)

Michael Jackson’s Law

There’s nothing that can’t be done if we raise our voice as one.

~Michael Jackson

It will take a long time and much effort to pass this proposed legislation. We need your support. Please join us by subscribing to our newsletter.

http://mjtruthnow.com/mainstream-media/ ... ksons-law/ (http://mjtruthnow.com/mainstream-media/michael-jacksons-law/)

First, it’s necessary to define a new term.  Medialoid (mainstream media infected by tabloid journalism) publishes content that is more suitable for tabloid publications.

Proposed
Michael Jackson’s Law

Part 1 — Professionalization of Journalism. Many occupations require licensing; for example, doctors, lawyers, architects, and accountants must be licensed in all 50 states. To qualify, one must graduate from an accredited university and pass a rigorous board examination. A license doesn’t guarantee a doctor, lawyer, architect, or accountant will be competent. However, licensing prevents a plumber from operating on a person, a homemaker from arguing in court, a dog groomer from designing a building, or a student from maintaining the books of a corporation.

Is it no less important that those entrusted with reporting world events be licensed? Reporters should not be allowed to call themselves journalists unless they graduate from an accredited university with a degree in journalism (including at least one course in journalism ethics and one course in communications and media law) and pass a rigorous board examination.

Media play a huge role in our lives. Television, radio, the Internet, movies, books, and newspapers inform and influence our ideas, opinions, values, and beliefs. They shape our understanding of the world and give us the information we need to hold our leaders accountable. They help us separate fact from opinion.

If formal journalism training and licensing had been required of Diane Dimond and Nancy Grace, neither would have been hired by any news organization. If either had been hired without credentials, the news company that hired them may have been fined for hiring unlicensed persons. Clearly, if Dimond and Grace had not been perceived as journalists, their works of fiction may not have confused the public.

The Society of Professional Journalists believes that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of a journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and balanced account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist’s credibility. A journalist shall lose his or her license for failing to adhere to principles of journalistic ethics and integrity.

Code of Ethics for Journalists

Part 2 — Defaming the dead shall be prohibited. A deceased person’s heirs can sue for libel and slander as aggressively as the person who was defamed when he or she was alive.

Part 3 — News agencies, journalists, and all media shall use public disclaimers to alert and educate readers and viewers regarding content. For example, the Food and Drug Administration protects against harmful claims that are misleading to the public. The following disclaimer must be included on products that purport to be effective but do not have FDA approval:

These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not meant to diagnose, treat or cure any disease or medical condition.

Following is a proposed disclaimer that shall accompany all medialoid content:

The views expressed herein may not have been fact-checked or verified according to principles of journalistic ethics and integrity. In addition, rumor, barely credible sources, an appeal to emotion and the use of checkbook journalism may be a part of this story or program. This story or program is for entertainment purposes only and was not reviewed by a licensed journalist.

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) protects against deceptive advertising that is misleading to the public. In like manner, a governing body shall be formed to uphold standards of ethics and integrity in journalism, oversee licensing for journalists, and protect against media practices that are harmful or mislead the public.

Tort Law and Journalistic Ethics: Too Late For Michael Jackson—by Richard T. Karcher


_______________________

On second thought, since Teva has stopped the manufacturing of propofol which would seemingly make the Michael Jackson's law about controlling propofol null and void, I think it is possible that TMZ's headline today is just a "heads-up" to get people to google "Michael Jackson's law" and come across the proposed legislation called Michael Jackson's law against unfair journalism and discover the website mjtruthnow.com.  Just a thought!   ;)
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: PJ4MJ on September 20, 2010, 12:17:57 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
PJ4MJ, I did the same question to myself, there are so many people who uses propofol out of a hospital?, probably this news has another connotation and it is that it could be investigating to some doctors that to prescribe drugs in exchange for a lot of money. It is strange that TMZ places it of " Michael's law " :mrgreen:

Paula  -
Just my opinion, but I think TMZ made up the group handing out flyers as a way to link the DEA story to MJ; otherwise, I don't see why TMZ would put out that information.  Calling it "Michael's Law" not only links it to MJ but implies he will be the cause of any changes that take place.  ForstAMoon tells us the pic is of MJ at Capitol Hill discussing (lobbying?) with members of Congress his commitment to fighting the AIDS epidemic in Africa.  How fitting that they use the same pic in a story titled "Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol."  Who's the lobbyist?  This California group or MJ?  Just a thought...

There has been a recent update on Propofol regulation; see this Anesthesiology News article dated September 16, 2010:
http://www.anesthesiologynews.com/index ... e_id=15856 (http://www.anesthesiologynews.com/index.asp?section_id=175&show=dept&issue_id=660&article_id=15856)

By the way...As of 10 am, I have found FOUR "news" articles about Michael's Law from TMZ.com, Myjoyonline.com, 411mania.com, and Examiner.com.  All are basically blog or gossip sites, and the latter three are using TMZ.com as their source.  The Examiner actually used the phrase "California Lobbyists," which I suppose is technically accurate but gives the impression that paid political lobbyists are walking the halls and petitioning lawmakers rather than a non-identified group handing out flyers door-to-door.  411mania.com doesn't even cite TMZ as the source but it's clear they are just repeating TMZ's story and have not done any verification of facts.  In fact, none of them have.  Once again, TMZ trumps all the others with the story; right?

So sad how easily the masses can be manipulated.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: lovemj4everandever on September 20, 2010, 12:26:36 PM
Quote
So sad how easily the masses can be manipulated.

I agree.  Please see my two posts above.   ;)
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: paula-c on September 20, 2010, 12:45:29 PM
thanks PJ4MJ ;)
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: CC on September 20, 2010, 01:09:53 PM
I watch (sometimes) the program, of plastic surgeries at Beverly Hills on E! and you can clearly see that they use propofol (white milk) before their interventions... maybe you are right PJ4MJ... :?
BTW... the picture is good! ;)
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: PJ4MJ on September 20, 2010, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Quote
So sad how easily the masses can be manipulated.

I agree.  Please see my two posts above.   ;)

Great info, lovemj4everandever.  I saw that somewhere before, too, and think it's an absolute necessity.  Journalists hold as much power to nurture or destroy as any doctor of medicine.  Journalists should be licensed to "practice" and be held accountable when they violate professional standards.  There's always been propaganda and misinformation, but things have gotten exponentially worse since the internet came along.  We point out all the time that anonymous posters can say anything about the hoax.  Well, it's happening on a global scale, too, with all these sites that allow "contributors" to report opinion pieces as news or regurgitate stories from other sites without crediting the source or checking facts.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but it's just all so frustrating when I see people all around me at work, etc. eating it all up without so much as a second thought.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: Sinderella on September 20, 2010, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
never seen that picture before either. wow, i honestly didn't know propofol was so heavily abused.

Everything gets abused in LA,it's only really just coming to light how much of what and how people are getting it.Maybe it is part of the 'plan' to bring corrupt Dr's there down....THERE IS ENOUGH OF THEM!!

Hell all up in Hollywood.....for reals.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: MissG on September 20, 2010, 05:35:37 PM
A question to you all.
Do you think the pics on each TMZ articles are relevant as clues?
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: paula-c on September 20, 2010, 09:53:10 PM
I think very well chooses TMZ published pictures ;)
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: darkchild on September 20, 2010, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Quote
So sad how easily the masses can be manipulated.

I agree.  Please see my two posts above.   ;)

Excellent point.  The media so easily manipulates the masses for profit and for high ratings.  God bless you for your insight.

I love the piccy of MJ.  He looks absolutely gorgeous.   8-)
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: teerockjelli on September 20, 2010, 11:55:25 PM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Quote
So sad how easily the masses can be manipulated.

I agree.  Please see my two posts above.   ;)
 :|  makes me wonder about it all  :|  :cry:  :|  :ugeek:
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: heisinme09 on September 21, 2010, 02:54:55 AM
Frankly, when I hear the term, "Michael's Law", I think it plays perfectly into the reasons behind the Hoax...it is him lending his name to at least two of our society's ills right now....Prescription Drug Abuse and Media Mania....two things that unfortunately, effected Michael's life deeply....I hope and pray that his own admitted prescription drug abuse was confined to the mid-90's....but realistically, I fear he battled it from that point on...BUT WITH GOOD REASON, I MIGHT ADD!....and as for the Media And Michael?...No celebrity on God's green earth was more negatively affected by the Media than him....in fact, it obviously was one of the biggest factors leading to his prescription drug abuse issues....so if that term, "Michael's Law" starts to be associated with helping eradicate these two major problems in our society, I think he would be very pleased to be of help....he is a HERO, my friends....in fact, if you recall, he told us years ago in "Someone Hold Your Hand Out", "I'll be your storied hero"...he IS our Modern Day Hero, destined to follow in the footsteps of heros before him!....let there be no doubt about that whatsoever!

Peace to all!
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: Sarahli on September 21, 2010, 03:13:41 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
A question to you all.
Do you think the pics on each TMZ articles are relevant as clues?
Thanks  :)

Maybe not all pictures but some of them definitely. This one and considering the article can mean that it is Michael himself lobbying to make his law applied. Also the background as mentionned by some is interesting to say the least, the pyramid especially, so we know who Michael is "talking to". Reversing the pyramid is the goal but lobbying will not be enough... :?
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: whisper on September 21, 2010, 03:46:57 AM
I think we can all agree that MJ's pic and the " Michael's law " is very interesting! Like many have said they normally post edited pics or something they put together..

And this article also fits with the hoax theory that MJ wanted to expose the doctors and the people who were/are responsible for the many celebrities deaths..

Quote
Michael's Law is being pushed by a group of people ... all of whom have lost loved ones to the misuse of Propofol.
Title: Re: Lobbyists Use MJ's Death to Restrict Propofol
Post by: CC on September 21, 2010, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
A question to you all.
Do you think the pics on each TMZ articles are relevant as clues?
Thanks  :)

I´m not sure... maybe some...
what I clearly remember is that at the beggining of he hoax the pictures of mike that they published were always the same, or the same style of picture and with bad quality... now are very good pictures are much more clear, with better quality like he is showing himself ... like he is better now... :roll:
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