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Hoax Investigation => Michael's Life & Clues He Left Us => Michael's features, habits & disguises => Topic started by: DancingTheDream on February 28, 2010, 06:26:19 PM

Title: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 28, 2010, 06:26:19 PM
Ok guys...  

i need your help on this one.

Please post ANYTHING you know about Neverland...   any articles, pictures, etc...

I am trying to find out as much as i can about Neverland.  I have a hunch.

Many thanks in advance.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: kentuckywoman on February 28, 2010, 06:45:14 PM
here are a few pics of Neverland.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 28, 2010, 06:46:17 PM
Ooh..  thankyou.  xx

Anyone have a link to the article which stated helicopters landed there recently?
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: jill on February 28, 2010, 07:01:39 PM
Here's what I found on TMZ....
Helicopter Lands at Neverland

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/copters-l ... ons-body/8 (http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/copters-land-at-neverland-not-jacksons-body/8)
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 28, 2010, 07:21:21 PM
Quote from: "jill"
Here's what I found on TMZ....
Helicopter Lands at Neverland

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/copters-l ... ons-body/8 (http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/copters-land-at-neverland-not-jacksons-body/8)

You are a star.   :D
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 28, 2010, 07:22:15 PM
Wasnt there something about a helicopter landing on the day Murray went to court?
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: jill on February 28, 2010, 07:25:21 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Wasnt there something about a helicopter landing on the day Murray went to court?


That was the only one I found, other than fire fighter helicopters putting out a fire there in 2006.  I don't think I have heard anything about helicopters when Murray was in court, sorry.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: 515angel on February 28, 2010, 09:39:19 PM
I think the talk about a helicopter landing the day Murray went to court, had to do with  the fact there's a helicopter landing pad on the roof of that court house. Maybe there's more in the thread from that day.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: hesoutthere on March 01, 2010, 04:02:18 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Wasnt there something about a helicopter landing on the day Murray went to court?

Oh Yeah i remember reading somewhere that two helicopteres took off from Neverland that day :shock:
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 01, 2010, 11:24:40 AM
Yes..  i remember hearing about it but cant find anything on the web?
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: hesoutthere on March 01, 2010, 11:28:11 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Yes..  i remember hearing about it but cant find anything on the web?

Uhhh i'll try and see if i can find it... It's gonna take some time...
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: Chamone on March 01, 2010, 11:43:03 AM
Wowsers! Can you read my mind? I was just working on a new Neverland-thread.

This is what I had so far;
1. June 30th, 2009; 16,000 tonnes of concrete was delivered at Neverland; http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/concrete- ... neverland/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/concrete-evidence-found-at-neverland/)
2. September 9th, 2009; It is official, Neverland wil become an amusementpark; http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/i ... nnAIEzWLxN (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/it_jacko_land_AfmvXoFX6JbqnnAIEzWLxN)
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 01, 2010, 11:44:12 AM
@Chamone..  i have a feeling about Neverland.  May he be there???

I wish i could find the link to the news that helicopters left Neverland on the day Murray went to court.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: Chamone on March 01, 2010, 11:45:01 AM
July 7, 2009 Helicopter(s?) at Neverland; http://www.examiner.com/x-15148-Santa-B ... -Neverland (http://www.examiner.com/x-15148-Santa-Barbara-County-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m7d8-Michael-Jacksons-coffin-not-flown-to-Neverland)
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 01, 2010, 11:46:30 AM
Quote from: "Chamone"
July 7, 2009 Helicopter(s?) at Neverland; http://www.examiner.com/x-15148-Santa-B ... -Neverland (http://www.examiner.com/x-15148-Santa-Barbara-County-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m7d8-Michael-Jacksons-coffin-not-flown-to-Neverland)

Yes..  but there was also something about helicopters there on the day Murray went to court last month.   :?
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: Chamone on March 01, 2010, 11:48:17 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
@Chamone..  i have a feeling about Neverland.  May he be there???

I wish i could find the link to the news that helicopters left Neverland on the day Murray went to court.
Cool, we had the same hunch! I don't know if he could be there. It used to be his paradise, his safe haven, but with the raids and all it wasn't so safe anymore. Just now I remembered the concrete and I started searching for news about Neverland. Some one must be doing something there, because a place like that is way to expensive to fall apart.

Do you remember what day Murray went to court? I'll keep searching...
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: Chamone on March 01, 2010, 12:06:37 PM
I can't find anything about helicopters flying to Neverland in february.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 01, 2010, 12:07:30 PM
Quote from: "Chamone"
I can't find anything about helicopters flying to Neverland in february.

Maybe it was an urban myth then....
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: londonluck on March 01, 2010, 12:40:40 PM
I don't want to upset you, but on the day Murray went to court smb posted an article about 2 helicopters that took off from Neverland. As it turned out later the auther was refering to an old article dated 07.07.2009 or smth. There was no real info about helicopters and Neverland on the day Murray went to court.
P.S. May be you were searching for this thread?
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5083 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5083)
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: jill on March 01, 2010, 12:43:48 PM
Quote from: "Chamone"
Wowsers! Can you read my mind? I was just working on a new Neverland-thread.

This is what I had so far;
1. June 30th, 2009; 16,000 tonnes of concrete was delivered at Neverland; http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/concrete- ... neverland/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/concrete-evidence-found-at-neverland/)
2. September 9th, 2009; It is official, Neverland wil become an amusementpark; http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/i ... nnAIEzWLxN (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/it_jacko_land_AfmvXoFX6JbqnnAIEzWLxN)

That is the first I have heard about it becoming an amusement park.  Does anyone know who actually owns it now?  Who is building the park?
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: Datroot on March 01, 2010, 12:44:58 PM
Quote from: "jill"
Quote from: "Chamone"
Wowsers! Can you read my mind? I was just working on a new Neverland-thread.

This is what I had so far;
1. June 30th, 2009; 16,000 tonnes of concrete was delivered at Neverland; http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/concrete- ... neverland/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/concrete-evidence-found-at-neverland/)
2. September 9th, 2009; It is official, Neverland wil become an amusementpark; http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/i ... nnAIEzWLxN (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/it_jacko_land_AfmvXoFX6JbqnnAIEzWLxN)

That is the first I have heard about it becoming an amusement park.  Does anyone know who actually owns it now?  Who is building the park?

I thought MJ was still co-owner and that it was already an amusement park of sorts.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: Kirsche on March 01, 2010, 04:34:30 PM
I really think he's there...I mean: why were there 2 helicopters on the roof at the UCLA ?

And why the delivery of concrete?

And why all the new flowers etc at Neverland?

I really think that they "rebuild" Neverland to make it look good for the King, who has returned to his real home ;)



arrrgh, I can't find the video with florists cars etc.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: jill on March 03, 2010, 09:17:24 AM
I just had a thought.  What if we try google earth to see if we can see any changes going on or if there is any activity there?  Do you have the actual address?  I will give it a try.

I remember when the funeral was on TMZ they were showing live feed outside the Encino compound from Google Earth.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: jill on March 03, 2010, 09:37:59 AM
I found the address and tried google earth.  It would not let me zoom in any closer than an arial view.  That's strange because I can get down to street level for my address.  I might be doing something wrong.

Does anyone else want to give it a try?  The address is 5225 Figueroa Mountain Rd, Los Olivos, CA 93441.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: frogh777 on March 03, 2010, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: "jill"
I found the address and tried google earth.  It would not let me zoom in any closer than an arial view.  That's strange because I can get down to street level for my address.  I might be doing something wrong.

Does anyone else want to give it a try?  The address is 5225 Figueroa Mountain Rd, Los Olivos, CA 93441.
same prob here, u cant zoom too much!!! just arial view
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 03, 2010, 11:10:05 AM
Quote from: "jill"
I found the address and tried google earth.  It would not let me zoom in any closer than an arial view.  That's strange because I can get down to street level for my address.  I might be doing something wrong.

Does anyone else want to give it a try?  The address is 5225 Figueroa Mountain Rd, Los Olivos, CA 93441.


Same for me.  I think it depends where you live and if Google have managed to get round to your street yet.

I live in a city and i still havent got street view yet for my road.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND... an investigation.
Post by: Kirsche on March 04, 2010, 03:31:46 PM
Not the whole property of Neverland is sold....Michael still owns an unknown part of it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_ ... ial_status (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_Ranch#Financial_status)

On November 10, 2008, Jackson transferred the title to Sycamore Valley Ranch Company, LLC, and neighbors reported immediate activity on the property, including the amusement rides being trucked along the highway.[1] Jackson still owned an unknown stake in the property, since Sycamore Valley Ranch was a joint venture between Jackson (represented by McMillan) and an affiliate of Colony Capital LLC (an investment company run by billionaire Tom Barrack).[17][18][19][20] The Santa Barbara County Assessor's Office stated Jackson sold an unknown proportion of his property rights for $35 million.[21][22]
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