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Andrea

Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 05:07:47 PM
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I try to spread information also but most think it's ridiculous.  I keep trying any way.  We need a big "shock" and "wake up call" to wake up the masses.  I hope it's soon.   

Love Revolution     :abouttime:



I spread as much information as I can too.  I get my share of side-eyes as well, it's expected unfortunately.  But I find that some people actually seek me out when they hear something on the news to see what I think about it so that's gotta be a good thing.  Unless there's a group called "let's make fun of stuff Andrea says" that I don't know about.  An example was the swine flu back in spring of 2009.  I hadn't even heard of it and someone asked me about it and knowing absolutely nothing about it, I told him it was a BS pharma money-grab virus that they created.  When I then researched it, I found out my suspicions were correct.  I get asked about the moon landing, JFK, 9/11, you name it.  And what's funny is most of these questions are from guys at work and my work is very "Establishment".  Oh, and they love asking about MJ's hoax even though most are sure he's dead.  But there are the times when I can see the wheels turning in someone's head.  Actually I got a little gift from one of the sections in my building today - it was a package of MJ cards with gum - you know, like the old-school baseball kind.  Totally vintage and so awesome!!  LOL, I think I'll leave them in the package though because I don't want to "wreck" it.
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 05:27:56 PM
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[...]@Sim...you always manage to bring sunshine to my day  :icon_razz:  [...]
aww! I am happy then! 

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After reading your comments....this is what came to mind:

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
So beautiful! Thank you!!

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Energy is much better spent on the things we can change.[...]
YES! My experiences so far lead me to this great conclusion!!  :icon_e_wink:


@Andrea: wow! you're lucky! nice colleagues you have.... curious and giving you MJ presents!!  :icon_e_wink:
I totally get what you said about "seeing the wheels turning into people's heads" even if they don't give any visible signs! It occurred to me too... rarely , but it gives you an optimist feeling like "There you go! finally one more who starts to SEE , but there's still a lot of fog around!!"  :icon_lol:
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 05:39:08 PM
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Unless there's a group called "let's make fun of stuff Andrea says" that I don't know about.
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This is one of my favorite quotes:
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)
Perhaps we're only in the 'ridiculed' stage, and 'violence' will be next as in revolution. It's a long way to 'self-evident' yet.  Remember TS saying after Bam would be a battle.  I think what little we receive now is going to be conditioning us for combat as in:

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I try to spread information also but most think it's ridiculous.  I keep trying any way.  We need a big "shock" and "wake up call" to wake up the masses.  I hope it's soon.   

Love Revolution     :abouttime:

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EXACTLY! If they choose to sleep, ok then wish them "Good night!"




BTC   :beerchug: :smiley_abuv:


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Sarahli

Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 05:42:47 PM
I think that many people don't want to face the truth because it involves that they have to change themselves. Not an easy task, not many are willing to do it. It can also involve to give up on certain things they are attached to. Over with the comfort zone.  Some people prefer to lie and keep silent even if the truth is there staring them in the face in order to keep up their positions, their friendships, social status, reputation, etc. , giving in to social pressure is easier -- because as you have described being aware of what this world really is and speaking out is like swimming in the opposite direction of a torrent, it's going against the flow, which requires much more effort and strength, belief, faithfulness and loyalty in the honorable principles we want to live by. 
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We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."

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MJonmind

Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 05:53:20 PM
BTC quoted:
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God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
I was thinking the poet was Assisi but it was Reinhold Niebuhr.

It seems similar to Francis of Assisi's prayer:
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Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love.
Where there is injury, pardon.
Where there is doubt, faith.
Where there is despair, hope.
Where there is darkness, light.
Where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master,
grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled, as to console;
to be understood, as to understand;
to be loved, as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive.
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to Eternal Life.
Amen.
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 05:56:28 PM
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Unless there's a group called "let's make fun of stuff Andrea says" that I don't know about.
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EXACTLY! If they choose to sleep, ok then wish them "Good night!"


LMAO  :thjajaja121:


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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer - German philosopher (1788 - 1860)
This is one of my favorite quotes
+1
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 06:16:38 PM
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I try to spread information also but most think it's ridiculous.  I keep trying any way.  We need a big "shock" and "wake up call" to wake up the masses.  I hope it's soon.   

Love Revolution     :abouttime:



I spread as much information as I can too.  I get my share of side-eyes as well, it's expected unfortunately.  But I find that some people actually seek me out when they hear something on the news to see what I think about it so that's gotta be a good thing.  Unless there's a group called "let's make fun of stuff Andrea says" that I don't know about.  An example was the swine flu back in spring of 2009.  I hadn't even heard of it and someone asked me about it and knowing absolutely nothing about it, I told him it was a BS pharma money-grab virus that they created.  When I then researched it, I found out my suspicions were correct.  I get asked about the moon landing, JFK, 9/11, you name it.  And what's funny is most of these questions are from guys at work and my work is very "Establishment".  Oh, and they love asking about MJ's hoax even though most are sure he's dead.  But there are the times when I can see the wheels turning in someone's head.  Actually I got a little gift from one of the sections in my building today - it was a package of MJ cards with gum - you know, like the old-school baseball kind.  Totally vintage and so awesome!!  LOL, I think I'll leave them in the package though because I don't want to "wreck" it.



















Yes  we are all about crazy, ..but look what it says the link, I'm not going to publish here to comply with the rules of the forum, ..later published it in the blog.


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Who said that of the new world order exists? , ..people crazy
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 07:12:50 PM
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@Andrea: wow! you're lucky! nice colleagues you have.... curious and giving you MJ presents!!  :icon_e_wink:
I totally get what you said about "seeing the wheels turning into people's heads" even if they don't give any visible signs! It occurred to me too... rarely , but it gives you an optimist feeling like "There you go! finally one more who starts to SEE , but there's still a lot of fog around!!"  :icon_lol:


They are nice, I work with a great group of people and am treated very well - I am grateful for that!

I love getting into it with people, seeing their reactions and hearing what they have to say.  Communication is often an under-rated gift, I love what John Lennon says about it (below).  He had just met with Canada's Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, 1969.

(Sound kicks in just after :30)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWgcjEu8kZ8[/youtube]
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 08:41:43 PM
wow.....I loved that magazine.......I had just about all of them back in the day!!! :))
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 10:09:26 PM
And you gave them all away at a garage sale I bet.  :icon_e_sad:  Now they're valuable.
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 10:15:47 PM
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I try to spread information also but most think it's ridiculous.  I keep trying any way.  We need a big "shock" and "wake up call" to wake up the masses.  I hope it's soon.   

Love Revolution     :abouttime:



  Oh, and they love asking about MJ's hoax even though most are sure he's dead.  But there are the times when I can see the wheels turning in someone's head.  .

so this happens with you too!! There was a time when i felt that my job as believer was to spread this hoax, so i started telling my friend's MJ's life story, about TPTB and also why he pulled off the hoax. All they found in my talk was gossip. I used to feel like a real fool because the next time i'd talk to them they'd ask... 'so how's MJ?' or 'you still believe MJ is alive?'

After several of such incidents I simply stopped talking about hoax altogether. My words or any 'fan's ' words are never gonna have any effect on them because our words are going to be taken for granted for the fact that we are fans. I think we should just keep quite and let this people have experience the BAM and stand their agape...

and you know what irritates me the most?I really feel these people WILL NOT look up to information themselves, they'll most probably come to the fans to ask 'what is this bam all about?'
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 11, 2012, 11:51:18 PM
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Just now on the official MJ FB:



 :icon_albino: :th_bravo:

I like the "We seperate Fact from Fiction part"

Also noticed:

"You'll love him this season"
"What really happened"

The first thing I thought of and saw was the words LOVE...Right on! So of course this goes to show how we all "perceive" things differently, but we can still agree that it is a "good" sign from Michael that we are on the right track with the topic at hand!!
 :bearhug:

Great posts family!!! You know I have to tell you that the last few days have been pretty sad for me...ya for me, go figure! But, it's true...I was on top of the world one minute, with not a "fear" insight, spreading LOVE with everyone I came into contact with, and then BAM!! Out of nowhere I saw my Happy life , flash before my eyes!

I'm not going to get into details, but the Old me would have immediately thought the absolute worse case scenario, and kissed my marriage goodbye, but something inside me was telling me that I was being "Tested" one final time, so I tried to approach the situation differently, which was very hard, but long story short, just when I thought that I was just going to say the hell with it, I'm done, I thought of all of the hard work that I have been doing for the last 3.5yrs, to be a better person, to "make a change" etc, what about my Michael Family? I have been "preaching" the LOVE since the beginning, am I going to throw all of that away, over my "ego"?? I then heard Michael saying, "you are stronger then this, don't go backwards keep moving forward, you know what you know for a reason!" Yes I do Michael!! Yes I do...

I am happy to say that I am going to just, let this go...my husband is a wonderful man and we have been through so much together, that I can forgive him for this, tiny "oops" without degrading him as a man and make him feel like a piece of crap. I looked him right in the eyes, and told him that LOVE is much more important and that we will get through this and be as strong as ever!...And Instantly, as soon as I made that decision, it was like the weight of the world was lifted from my shoulders!!  Just by me not repeating my "old" behavior, and letting it go without "judgement" the "Bad" vibes, just disappeared!!! How's that for a BAM!! :LolLolLolLol: That is the power of Positive thinking and realizing that if I was in such a negative frame of mind, it is because I was creating it, and the only one who could "change" that negativity, was ME!!

So, Drama is over right?? No, I also just talked to my mom, and she had some tests done today and they found 2 large masses on her bowels, so they have done a biopsy, and told her they must operate ASAP...which probably means a month with he way the "system" works! Anyway, I was devastated, until my BAM moment, and now I feel like I can handle this with a much more positive attitude, and I just have to BELIEVE that the biopsy is clear! So, Family Prayers of Healing and LOVE would be greatly appreciated!!!

Ok, enough of that!!! Back to LOVE!!!!!!!!!

Reading your posts has really helped me know that I am not alone on this journey of "change". It warms my heart to see that others are taking Michael's message to heart, and seeing that Michael wants us to see that OUR lives, and those who we can physically touch, are what is important here!! We need to show LOVE to them, and to ourselves, and let the ripples of LOVE flow outward!! We can show our LOVE and support for Michael, but if we want to help HIM, we need to help OURSELVES, and those we "touch" because that is what is "real" ( for now anyway lol!

I wish that I had known what I know now, when my kids were growing up, so that they could have had a better/happier life, but my husband and I are doing everything we can to show our granddaughter what really matters in this world... LOVE, Compassion and Kindness towards everyone she meets and we make sure she gets to laugh and have as much fun as she can! Michael is the Greatest role model not only for us, but for all of the children!

I see glimmers of Light and hope throughout our community here, and in our own neighborhood we promote LOVE and "Unity" in the Community...we all try to do our own small part, and a few yrs ago, I didn't see any of our neighbors "socializing", so I really do see "Change" happening, I just can't wait until I see more!

 We just need to continue to Believe in ourselves, we need to stop trying to fix everyone elses' life and we need to take responsibility for our own happiness, because the reality is, that is ALL we can do!! I know to some I
 may sound like a broken record, please forgive that, I am just very passionate about all of this, and  my  own life keeps changing from moment to moment, just when I think it's smooth sailing..BAM another test! I sometimes wonder why me?? Why have I had to endure so much pain and heartache? I'm not a "materialistic" person at all, I live a very simple life, I don't remember the last time that I was able to buy a new piece of clothing, I have no car, no cell phone, no money, we have the bare essentials, that's it...Life ain't easy, but 98.9% of the time, I am honestly happy and content...,Why? Because I make it that way! I could just as easily be depressed and miserable...I just finally understood that it was up to me to make ME happy, and that I needed to stop playing the "victim" and realize that if I was anything other then happy, it was of my own doing, because although I used to feel like a prisoner, there were no bars on my prison cell, only the ones I had put there myself!! I realized that FEAR and negativity were so Prominent in my life, that I had convinced myself that I needed to continue punishing myself! But Michael helped me to see that I was my own "jailer" and that I could free myself any time I wanted...So I think I finally tonight finally comprehended this to the FULLEST extent, as I just basically told my husband that he was keeping himself prisoner from fully freeing himself of the Fear and Negativity! Ok so I just typed that out as I came to the realization in my mind right now...oh boy...You see this journey for me has been as much about myself as it has been about Michael.

Michael has given us some very valuable "tools" here with this Hoax/Arg/mission/ awakening/ascension/movie/sting...or whatever else it may or may not be! I think it is safe to say that we all have "Gained" wisdom and knowledge of some sort in the last few yrs right? Well I truly Truly Believe that what is to come is truly going to change EVERYTHING!!! Michael is really about to give the world the greatest "gift" ever...although some may not see it that way at first, I believe that Michael needs to know that we have his back NO MATTER WHAT Happens when he returns! Michael is going to Free us from this "enslavement" we've been in..."IN WHAT WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE GREATEST DEMONSTRATION FOR FREEDOM IN THE HISTORY OF OUR NATION" is not an understatement...We have come this far as a "Family" in support of Michael, and maybe all he really needs to know is that we will support him, and  that the "HOWS" don't really matter as much as  "WHY" he had to do this!! 

I mean, we can agree to disagree on how he did this, but do we, as an "Army Of L.O.V.E" stand as ONE UNITED Voice, as to WHY  Michael had to do this?? By now I think we should be able to say YES, ABSOLUTELY, No questions asked!! I BELIEVE in Michael Jackson 100% NO MATTER WHAT!!??

Michael himself said "It's ALL FOR LOVE!" So based solely on this FACT...can we all agree on this??? Wouldn't it be something if this was all Michael was really looking for all along!?

Anyway...hope I don't get in trouble for being "off topic", I meant no disrespect...I was just sharing a little of my very "real" but LOVING life with you all...I will now officially ZIP IT!

Well, first I must tell you all, that you are my Angels of LIGHT on a Cloudy day, and I LOVE each and every one of you to Infinity and Beyond!!!!!!!!!! Please pass the LOVE on, and Lets show Michael.. that we WILL ALL BE THERE!!!!!!! You guys Rock...You have my permission to continue being AWESOME!  :LolLolLolLol:

Boy I just read that back...lol..just being Real Family...I am proud to be me!!! :bearhug:

Sweet Michael Dreams Family...Talk soon...kisses

oh..Michael...Thanks Bro...You Rock and POP!!!  :thjajaja121:  I so funny!! heehee... You know that I LOVE THEE!! :smiley_abuv:

ok Now I officially will ZIP IT!!  :abouttime: :icon_geek:


 
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 12, 2012, 12:43:17 AM
Mjj4ever777, I’m so sad to hear your Mom is having this medical situation, and hope she can get the surgery way sooner than a month.   Maybe you can get her thinking so positively that she may even self-heal, given food/exercises,other changes as well.   I’m happy your marriage is strong enough to take the bumps and bruises that come, with plenty of love!  Much love and blessings to you!
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 12, 2012, 12:59:50 AM
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Just now on the official MJ FB:



 :icon_albino: :th_bravo:


FRONT!!??>> :abouttime:


with rLOVEution
<3)
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Re: Official back & Front thread
December 12, 2012, 01:08:31 AM
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FRONT!!??>> :abouttime:


with rLOVEution
<3)

Well I do feel that we might find some clue or a new re-direct today...though the bam will not happen
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