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Uh.Call me crazy but I thought Murray was arraigned last year. Pretty sure. On April 5th, 2010. Where the judge "waived the reading of the charges" (wtf) but Doc Murray entered a "not guilty" plea. Remember?
Though often referred to as an arraignment, a first appearance is a separate court event. A defendant charged with a felony may not enter a plea at the first appearance, but he must do so at the arraignment.
Quote from: "_Anna_"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "_Anna_"I can't believe the trial will start in January 2012. We will never know the truth! I simply can't believe this."Give me your all...Your endurance and your PATIENCE."This is a marathon, not a sprint. He did this for very good reasons and it needs to be done well, or he won't succeed. That means that if he needs another year-and-a-half until the end of the trial, he has my blessings. The truth will prevail, when the time is right. Believe me, I said back in July 2009 that I would give it until the movie but I have learned to be patient because I want him to succeed. It's not about us, anyone on here can stop hoaxing anytime and just wait it out. It's about his masterpiece and mission in life, not to ease our own troubled minds because we want to know what happened. As far as we have seen, he probably started all this in the late '80s. Now THAT is what I call patience. It's not about one year and a half until the trial would end, but one year and a half until the trial would start. God knows how long it will last. It's not that I don't have patience, I have no choice but to have patience, but it looks like it lasts forever, endlessly. I almost see no end to this, and picture this situation after 5 more years from now still waiting to know the truth. This can't go on like 10 more years... Not because of me, it's not me whom I think of, it's him. Because if this reaches no end we'll never know the truth about what happened. There are people who can feed themselves with hope endlessly, but I am not like that. I want the truth. God, the TRUTH.See the contradictions in the sentence I underlined. First you say it's not about you, then you write we, I and I again. The trial does not start in a year-and-a-half, it will start in a year, so will probably end in a year-and-a-half.
Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "_Anna_"I can't believe the trial will start in January 2012. We will never know the truth! I simply can't believe this."Give me your all...Your endurance and your PATIENCE."This is a marathon, not a sprint. He did this for very good reasons and it needs to be done well, or he won't succeed. That means that if he needs another year-and-a-half until the end of the trial, he has my blessings. The truth will prevail, when the time is right. Believe me, I said back in July 2009 that I would give it until the movie but I have learned to be patient because I want him to succeed. It's not about us, anyone on here can stop hoaxing anytime and just wait it out. It's about his masterpiece and mission in life, not to ease our own troubled minds because we want to know what happened. As far as we have seen, he probably started all this in the late '80s. Now THAT is what I call patience. It's not about one year and a half until the trial would end, but one year and a half until the trial would start. God knows how long it will last. It's not that I don't have patience, I have no choice but to have patience, but it looks like it lasts forever, endlessly. I almost see no end to this, and picture this situation after 5 more years from now still waiting to know the truth. This can't go on like 10 more years... Not because of me, it's not me whom I think of, it's him. Because if this reaches no end we'll never know the truth about what happened. There are people who can feed themselves with hope endlessly, but I am not like that. I want the truth. God, the TRUTH.
Quote from: "_Anna_"I can't believe the trial will start in January 2012. We will never know the truth! I simply can't believe this."Give me your all...Your endurance and your PATIENCE."This is a marathon, not a sprint. He did this for very good reasons and it needs to be done well, or he won't succeed. That means that if he needs another year-and-a-half until the end of the trial, he has my blessings. The truth will prevail, when the time is right. Believe me, I said back in July 2009 that I would give it until the movie but I have learned to be patient because I want him to succeed. It's not about us, anyone on here can stop hoaxing anytime and just wait it out. It's about his masterpiece and mission in life, not to ease our own troubled minds because we want to know what happened. As far as we have seen, he probably started all this in the late '80s. Now THAT is what I call patience.
I can't believe the trial will start in January 2012. We will never know the truth! I simply can't believe this.
Quote from: "bec"Uh.Call me crazy but I thought Murray was arraigned last year. Pretty sure. On April 5th, 2010. Where the judge "waived the reading of the charges" (wtf) but Doc Murray entered a "not guilty" plea. Remember?True, but you get arraigned twice. First time within a certain amount of hours after arrest, then Murray got charged, pleaded not guilty, judge set date for prelim and set bail, Murray walks out of court but needs to be available within a certain amount of time for the court. Prosecution and defence collect evidence which were presented at the prelim (in this case) and judge decides if there is enough evidence for trial. The judge apparently thought there was, so he set the date for arraignment, Murray will be arraigned a second time, pleads not guilty again (at least, that is what we expect), and judge sets date for trial and prosecution can argue against the pre-trial release/bail if they think there is a flight risk. He does have ties abroad, so there is a chance they will lock him up, hahahaha! No I think he behaved pretty well the past year, so I guess he'll walk out of that court house. And I think January 2012 is an expectable date, since it was almost a year since the first arraignment as well. So then is the question: are we going to sit out the trial (which will last another 3-6 months after the set date) or will Mike safe Connie's ass before the circus starts? We don't know, unfortunately...
Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "bec"Uh.Call me crazy but I thought Murray was arraigned last year. Pretty sure. On April 5th, 2010. Where the judge "waived the reading of the charges" (wtf) but Doc Murray entered a "not guilty" plea. Remember?True, but you get arraigned twice. First time within a certain amount of hours after arrest, then Murray got charged, pleaded not guilty, judge set date for prelim and set bail, Murray walks out of court but needs to be available within a certain amount of time for the court. Prosecution and defence collect evidence which were presented at the prelim (in this case) and judge decides if there is enough evidence for trial. The judge apparently thought there was, so he set the date for arraignment, Murray will be arraigned a second time, pleads not guilty again (at least, that is what we expect), and judge sets date for trial and prosecution can argue against the pre-trial release/bail if they think there is a flight risk. He does have ties abroad, so there is a chance they will lock him up, hahahaha! No I think he behaved pretty well the past year, so I guess he'll walk out of that court house. And I think January 2012 is an expectable date, since it was almost a year since the first arraignment as well. So then is the question: are we going to sit out the trial (which will last another 3-6 months after the set date) or will Mike safe Connie's ass before the circus starts? We don't know, unfortunately...That's helpful info. So the first arraignment wasn't really an arraignment, just like the first court date set (6/14) reportedly for the Prelim, wasn't actually the Prelim, neither was the next date scheduled (8/23), also reported to be the Prelim, which also wasn't the Prelim. So it seems that nothing that is reported in regards to court ends up being true so like curls said a couple of pages ago, these articles are just hearsay. They probably don't have any better idea what is going on then we do, they just pretend to know where we admit we don't. In actuality, we probably have a better idea of the process because we actually research. Which is an interesting point to keep in mind when reading the "news".Souza, let us know if you learn anything in regards to entering a plea in a federal case first appearance non-arraignment arraignment (lol).
Many of us we already have more than a year here, and we know that all this is not easy patience,..that is one year more..........