Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Sternschen87 on March 12, 2010, 11:55:04 AM
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Since MJ's death I learned a lot about bodylanguage and how you can see if somebody is lying:
Micro expressions in your face can show if you are telling the truth or not!
Here is a summary of the announcement of Michael's death by Jermaine, Dr. Tohme etc.
1) nervous in movements, switches the balance oftens e.g. one leg to the other one
->means: no clear statement, nervous
2) If somebody moves only one part of the body like one shoulder or only one eyebrow moving
->means lie, I don't believe myself
3)One part of mouth movement:
-->sign of arroganz, lie,
3) lips licking (Jermaine licked his lips about 10 times)
->means nervousness,
4) hand in the pockets
-> Somebody tries to hide something( the truth?)
--> Remember the memorial? When they moved the casket there was Jermaine with his hands in his pockets ;-)
5) In his speech he moved one step away from the podium (?)
-->means a lie
6) His way of speaking
-->Sighing: really nervous
7) There were some smiles in their faces...
--> Are they happy about something??
8) Hand in the neck
-->means a lie (Remember Paris? ;-) )
9) lifting of chin and compressing the lips
--> I am not telling all I know
Also very suspicious:
he is reading a statement which he has written before on a paper
--> can mean a well prepared lie, Doesn't Jermaine know when his brother died?
--> Behind a very detailed speech – is a lie, like he is telling with the ambulance etc etc.
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Nice post. 8-)
To me it looked like Jermaine was saying somethings he really didn't want to say - hence the notes, sighing, etc.
However, I don't know exactly why he didn't want to say these things.
Was he put up to it by someone else?
Bullied?
Worried about his reputation if/when the truth came/comes out?
I wonder because Jermaine seems to L.O.V.E. the cameras and the spotlight. ;)
So I don't doubt that given some other circumstances he would have loved the attention he was getting that day.
P.S. Who's the guy with the glasses?
His faces are just HILARIOUS!!! :lol:
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this is a facinating thread......i have read in the past that there are people who are professional at this and are hired to sit in the public gallery at a court case...( just an example).....to study the body language of those involved.....................e.g.....when selecting the jury members.....to judge if they will be ......this or that.......if you understand me.......anyway....i would love to hear more on this....as we are flooded with liers in this hoax arnt we...!!!!!
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he announced Dr. Thome, somebody from UCLA;
he didn't seem very comfortable...
I think that Jermaine was kind of forced to say these things... in one of the videos with good quality you can hear him saying: Oh my god! Like Oh my god what am I doing here? :D
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But the winner is Dr. Thome :D :D :D
Look at his face expressions...
There are two theories...
1) All hox
2) he is involved in his death ( I don't want to even think about this)
becaus he is definetly hiding something, the truth!
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this is a facinating thread......i have read in the past that there are people who are professional at this and are hired to sit in the public gallery at a court case...( just an example).....to study the body language of those involved.....................e.g.....when selecting the jury members.....to judge if they will be ......this or that.......if you understand me.......anyway....i would love to hear more on this....as we are flooded with liers in this hoax arnt we...!!!!!
If you are interested there is a really really good Tv show called " Lie to me"
It's phenomenal! They are talking only about these things...
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Has anyone noticed in the picture where Jermaine is walking away you see Tohme looking down.
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what does it mean for you?
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he's lying.
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Sternschen87 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:34 pm
he announced Dr. Thome, somebody from UCLA;
he didn't seem very comfortable...
]I think that Jermaine was kind of forced to say these things[/color][/b]
I believe it.
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maybe its against his muslim religion?
I'm not so into this religion. Maybe somebody here on the forum can help?
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I am really enjoying this thread.........because its very positive in regards to the lies being told........where i get confused is................are the lies planned for a good reason or bad...????? oh no not the straightjacket again......ha ha .......xxxxx
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Stern,
IDK, maybe.
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IDK?????
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Another great post Sternschen87 ! :D Jermaine you done spilled the beans! 3 thumbs up! (http://forumsextreme.com/images/sHa_thumb3.gif)(http://forumsextreme.com/images/sHa_thumb3.gif)(http://forumsextreme.com/images/sHa_thumb3.gif)
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But I have to say that Jermaine is a very good actor, he tries all the time to not who any mimic in his face... but then there are these nice 1/5 seconds ^^
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But I have to say that Jermaine is a very good actor, he tries all the time to not who any mimic in his face... but then there are these nice 1/5 seconds ^^
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Thanks for opening this interesting thread. ;) ;) ;)
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If I have time I will go trough other videos
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I love Jermaine in this hoax :lol:
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Hello!
I made Part 2 for you:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7214 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7214)
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I believe the man with spectacles is a Mr. Reuben, if I heard correctly. He said he was The Chief Operating Officer Of The UCLA Hospital System. The video was on another thread a few weeks ago. http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/electronicplay.aspx?fid=73027&id=E0C5478
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Chief Operating NERD of UCLA!!! :lol: Honestly, that is what he looks like to me! Sorry.
Yep Jermaine's Lying BOdy language. Dead giveaway.
I have always felt that he should not have been making the death announcement anyway!
So ummmmm why is he? Have we researched other celeb deaths recently? And who makes the death announcement in those????
BINGO!!! An official person right?
Lets play a game ok? I am going to list some celebs and you tell me WHO announced their death ? ANd if it was an official person?
A: Brittney Murphy
B: Ed Mcmahon
C: Farrah Fawcett(not murdered but still...)
D: COrey Haims
E: Johnson & Johnson Heiress (I forget her name!) :roll:
Feel free to add to the list this is good for our comparison and review of Death announcements right? ;)
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good idea...
there was one... but i dont remember the name...
he was in a boygroup...
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I have just watched the video of him announcing for the first time ever, today, and this is what I see based off of a body language deciphering website I found.
"People tend to look up to the right to visualize or create a new response or down to the right to create the sounds of a new response. We recall information that occurred in the past by looking up to the left or down to the left. Spot a liar by listening for pauses and right eye movement. Be credible by answering spontaneously."
The whole time he is talking he continues to look to his right down at the paper, while he is stating the whole ordeal. Than right before he says something along the lines of "May our love be with you Michael, always." (At least that's what I got.) He looks down to his left. Just something I noticed.
http://www.pattiwood.net/article.asp?PageID=2314 (http://www.pattiwood.net/article.asp?PageID=2314)
mjboogie's "game":
A: "Cedar-Sinai Medical Center spokeswoman Sally Stewart confirmed Murphy’s time of death at “10:04 a.m. Pacific Time” on Sunday. "I cannot provide additional details," she said." (If that's what you want? Time of death okay?)
http://www.examiner.com/x-31506-International-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m12d20-Actress-Brittany-Murphy-dead-at-32
B: McMahon died shortly after midnight at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center surrounded by his wife, Pam, and other family members, said his publicist, Howard Bragman."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/23/entertainment/main5105636.shtml
C: "Her longtime partner, Ryan O'Neal, said she died in her hospital bed in Los Angeles after being admitted earlier this week."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5639364/Farrah-Fawcett-dies-aged-62-after-losing-battle-with-cancer.html
D:Couldn't really find WHO announced it so yeah...
E: "Her death was announced by Tequila on her Twitter page and confirmed by police." "Los Angeles police and firefighters were called to a house at 11:51 a.m. Monday. Johnson was pronounced dead at the scene.
"It appears to be a natural death," says police Officer Sara Faden. "There's no evidence of foul play. A toxicology report from the coroner's office will proceed next."
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20334459,00.html
F: PATRICK SWAYZE - “Patrick Swayze passed away peacefully today with family at his side after facing the challenges of his illness for the last 20 months,” the actor’s publicist said in a press statement.
http://snarkfood.com/dirty-dancing-star-patrick-swayze-dead-at-57/34645/
Hope that's what your were looking for. :)
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I have just watched the video of him announcing for the first time ever, today, and this is what I see based off of a body language deciphering website I found.
"People tend to look up to the right to visualize or create a new response or down to the right to create the sounds of a new response. We recall information that occurred in the past by looking up to the left or down to the left. Spot a liar by listening for pauses and right eye movement. Be credible by answering spontaneously."
The whole time he is talking he continues to look to his right down at the paper, while he is stating the whole ordeal. Than right before he says something along the lines of "May our love be with you Michael, always." (At least that's what I got.) He looks down to his left. Just something I noticed.
http://www.pattiwood.net/article.asp?PageID=2314 (http://www.pattiwood.net/article.asp?PageID=2314)
mjboogie's "game":
A: "Cedar-Sinai Medical Center spokeswoman Sally Stewart confirmed Murphy’s time of death at “10:04 a.m. Pacific Time” on Sunday. "I cannot provide additional details," she said." (If that's what you want? Time of death okay?)
http://www.examiner.com/x-31506-International-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m12d20-Actress-Brittany-Murphy-dead-at-32
B: McMahon died shortly after midnight at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center surrounded by his wife, Pam, and other family members, said his publicist, Howard Bragman."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/23/entertainment/main5105636.shtml
C: "Her longtime partner, Ryan O'Neal, said she died in her hospital bed in Los Angeles after being admitted earlier this week."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5639364/Farrah-Fawcett-dies-aged-62-after-losing-battle-with-cancer.html
D:Couldn't really find WHO announced it so yeah...
E: "Her death was announced by Tequila on her Twitter page and confirmed by police." "Los Angeles police and firefighters were called to a house at 11:51 a.m. Monday. Johnson was pronounced dead at the scene.
"It appears to be a natural death," says police Officer Sara Faden. "There's no evidence of foul play. A toxicology report from the coroner's office will proceed next."
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20334459,00.html
F: PATRICK SWAYZE - “Patrick Swayze passed away peacefully today with family at his side after facing the challenges of his illness for the last 20 months,” the actor’s publicist said in a press statement.
http://snarkfood.com/dirty-dancing-star-patrick-swayze-dead-at-57/34645/
Hope that's what your were looking for. :)
Great Analysis. like how you compared how other Celebs death were announced. Jermaine shouldn't of had said anything :lol: Someone at UCLA should of made the statement.. Way Off
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RE: Anna Nicole Smith (I don't know if this is the actual announcement but...)
Smith died Thursday at a South Florida hospital after being discovered unconscious in her hotel room. The reality TV star, Playboy Playmate and former Guess model was 39… Smith checked into the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Florida, on Monday with her lawyer and boyfriend, Howard K. Stern. Smith's private nurse called hotel workers at 1:38 p.m. and security officials went to the room, Seminole Police Chief Charlie Tiger said. Before rescue workers arrived, Smith's bodyguard performed CPR on her, Tiger said. She was taken to Memorial Regional Hospital in Hollywood, where she was pronounced dead at 2:49 p.m.
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This is going great so far! TIme of death is good but specifically I wanted to bring to everyone's attention the manner in which the death announcements were made as well as WHO is making them.
I still find it ODD for Jermaine to do it! With THome !! Why in the hell was Thome standing up there like that! He is/was not MJ"s publicist and he is/was not MJ's FAMILY!!
As we see with the post that these kind members here have added there has always been a publicist or official announcing these deaths. The Johnson girl's girlfriend did it on twitter but notice it says that it was CONFIRMED by police!
Remember MJ's publicist Raymone Bain? Somebody like her maybe would have done it but Jermaine!!! Even a hospital official, even LAPD@@!! We can go on with this. HOnestly I will never understand why Jermaine and also ummmm.....THome (the guy that Joe and Latoya stated possibly had something to do with MJ"s death) :evil: made that announcement!!!! Coroner NADA!
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ok, but we see that also other deads are not always pronounced by a doctor :(
Why does Jermaine not belong to michael's family?