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When ever they mention Conrad Murray his age is always 57 ,even though over 20 months has passed.

Yep, 50 + 7.

I start thinking a doubt on Michael's age could point to 49 in 2009 fitting much more logically than 50.
We love mysteries, don't we?

(Plus some ladies claim to stay at 49 to never get 50+, I'll see if I'll join them one day  :lol: )
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Quote from: "steph"
When ever they mention Conrad Murray his age is always 57 ,even though over 20 months has passed.

Fake identities do not get old  :lol:
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Re: LA Times-Prosecution asks for delay in trial
February 26, 2011, 05:16:00 AM
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The Jackson brothers look rather chummy with Kenny.  Ummm is Kenny holding Jackie's hand in the pic?lol :lol:  :lol:

Probably Jackie said to Kenny: "We Know What's Going On dude, and this is going to be a fast rollercoaster ride, so pls Hold My Hand" :lol:

I know right.lol  They are really holding hands. :lol:
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This is just so hysterical,I honestly need to remember who I made a bet with.....
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all4loveandbelieve

Re: LA Times-Prosecution asks for delay in trial
February 26, 2011, 09:22:48 PM
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including the findings of its star forensic witness Can it be Michael , in some destorted way???

The more time goes on, the more I feel in a roller coaster, going up and down, up and down oops I am getting dizzy here..  :mrgreen:
I feel you on that roller coaster lol :lol:


Thanks becca26 that I am not the only one. Blessings
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Jackson judge says he might delay trial of doctor
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LOS ANGELES – A judge says he is considering delaying the trial of the doctor charged in Michael Jackson's death because the physician's attorneys haven't turned over witness statements to prosecutors.

Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor says he is extremely distressed by the lack of information that defense attorneys have given to prosecutors in advance of a trial slated to begin March 24.

Defense attorney J. Michael Flanagan says attorneys are still preparing their case and expect to continue their investigation even after trial starts.

That stunned Pastor, who says he may delay the trial or fine attorneys who aren't complying with rules requiring them to give potential evidence to prosecutors 30 days before trial.

Dr. Conrad Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter.
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Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor says he is extremely distressed by the lack of information that defense attorneys have given to prosecutors in advance of a trial slated to begin March 24.
Why would a judge gets so emotionally involved. Looks like this guy needs to go take a holiday.
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Why I'm not surprised ? :lol: The delay is part of the plan because I believe the BAM will be in 2012 and this trial delay fits in the time schedule and to make the media more confused and eager... AND the trial is supposed to have world attention, yet the Middle East is breaking world news lately and in the next weeks/months, which was not foreseen. When things are "back to normal" the trial will be in the spotlights. Of course unforseen circumstances are included in the plan. Clever MJ ;)
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It's all for L.O.V.E.

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‎"A judge threatened Monday to hit Dr. Conrad Murray’s lawyers with $1,500-a-day... fines for failing to share evidence with prosecutors before the physician's trial next month in the death of Michael Jackson. Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor told lawyers for the pop icon’s personal physician that he would impose the fines or other sanctions Wednesday unless they met their legal obligation to turn over witness statements and expert reports to prosecutors."

“I am extremely distressed about the state of this case and whether in fact the defense is ready for trial,” Pastor said."

"Murray is set to go on trial March 24, but prosecutors have repeatedly asked the judge to delay the case, saying the defense is not ready for trial because it has not shared materials concerning its witnesses. Murray has refused to waive his right to a speedy trial, as most defendants do, to preserve his right to practice medicine.
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‎"A judge threatened Monday to hit Dr. Conrad Murray’s lawyers with $1,500-a-day... fines for failing to share evidence with prosecutors before the physician's trial next month in the death of Michael Jackson. Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor told lawyers for the pop icon’s personal physician that he would impose the fines or other sanctions Wednesday unless they met their legal obligation to turn over witness statements and expert reports to prosecutors."

“I am extremely distressed about the state of this case and whether in fact the defense is ready for trial,” Pastor said."

"Murray is set to go on trial March 24, but prosecutors have repeatedly asked the judge to delay the case, saying the defense is not ready for trial because it has not shared materials concerning its witnesses. Murray has refused to waive his right to a speedy trial, as most defendants do, to preserve his right to practice medicine.

HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!

Oh...my...God. I think non-believers must be pulling their hairs out and banging their heads against the wall. I am sorry for them. LOL.
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I hope the trial won't be delayed. And again I hope Michael comes back this year. He told in TII that we have only 4 years to get it right mentioning 2012. So whatever his plan is according to the end of the world, it would be too late if he comes back in 2012 in my opinion. He needs to come back this year. So I'm crossing my fingers for this trial not to be delayed.
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chloead505, am I right in thinking  you're our legal expert?  If so, can you confirm if it's normal practice and 'legal obligation' for the defence to have to 'share its evidence' with the prosecution before the trial begins?

If it is, then why are you laughing at these articles?
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chloead505, am I right in thinking  you're our legal expert?  If so, can you confirm if it's normal practice and 'legal obligation' for the defence to have to 'share its evidence' with the prosecution before the trial begins?

If it is, then why are you laughing at these articles?

Hi,
yes, I am a lawyer by profession. But I'm not a US lawyer so I don't want to pretend that I know US criminal law as it is very different from the continental system that we have here in Europe. I have been laughing on my occassions and in many threads, in fact. Sorry it is so ridiculous that I have to laugh - mainly at things to do with securing the crime scene, collecting evidence, people going in and out of the house, taking stuff, Murray running around with his liscence not suspended, doing tests on syringes that are 1,5 years old, ...quite lately the fairy tale about Murray's new defense lawyer having a personal conflict because he did some work for MJ back in 2005...and the list of absurdities (from a legal point of view at least) has no end..goes on and on. So now this plead to delay trial because judge is worried that defense is not ready...I mean WHAT??

Not sure about sharing evidence under US law. I do have a feeling that it's something that actually does exist, to a certain extent. But it's not like share as in have them look at your notes and the actual evidence, it's more about giving the other party the chance to (beforehand) get prepared to what is gonna be going down during the trial. So I'd think this includes disclosing a list of witnesses to give testimony for instance. I'm just a bit amazed at this construction and honestly I dont understand how that can be required from the defense. Sounds more natural vice versa - that is defense may require that from prosecution. I'd be happy to discuss this with a US lawyer...

I have never ever before heard about defense having to share evidence with prosecution. It is unthinkable  in my jurisdiction so I can't tell you more about that.

So to make it short, I am laughing at the ridiculousness of the whole trial/prosecution thing. It's just getting delayed and delayed, but the reasons for that sound so far-fetched that I'm just thinking you dont have to be a lawyer to realize it's a parody.
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WHAT ARE THEY IN COURT TODAY OR WHAT?  All these articles coming out.


Jackson judge says he might delay trial of doctor
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LOS ANGELES – Lawyers for Michael Jackson's doctor, insisting on a speedy trial on an involuntary manslaughter charge, appeared headed for a roadblock, with a judge saying Monday he doesn't think they are ready for trial and he may have to delay the planned March 24 start.

"I am extremely distressed about the state of this case and whether the defense is prepared for trial and its obligations to Dr. Murray," said Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor.

Prosecutors urged the judge to delay the start of jury selection, and Pastor asked them to present case law on the matter Wednesday, when he ordered Conrad Murray to appear. The doctor, who has pleaded not guilty, has been absent from the past few hearings under a waiver that allowed him to continue working at his clinics in Texas and Nevada.

Murray's medical license to practice in California has been suspended by Pastor. Defense attorney J. Michael Flanagan told the judge the urgency of getting to trial involves Murray's fear that if it takes too long, Texas and Nevada will lift his medical license as well.

Flanagan also suggested that Murray is running out of money to fund his defense.

"We need to go to trial right away," he said. "We don't have the budget that would let us draw this out."

Flanagan acknowledged, "We are still preparing this case," but said it was normal for evidence to develop even after the trial has begun.

"We will be ready for trial March 24," Flanagan said. "We are not ready today."
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Prosecutors objected that they are entitled to receive discovery of defense evidence 30 days before trial starts, a deadline which has already passed. Deputy District Attorney Deborah Brazil said she has received no reports from defense experts or any statements from proposed defense witnesses.

Flanagan angrily complained that the prosecution has not met all of its discovery obligations either.

The judge ordered Brazil and Deputy District Attorney David Walgren to turn over clean digital photos from Jackson's autopsy as well as all of the surveillance tapes recorded at his Bel Air home on June 25, 2009, the day he died of an overdose of the anesthetic propofol and other sedatives.

Pastor said that unless both sides quickly meet their discovery obligations, he will begin issuing sanctions of $1,500 per lawyer per day. The judge said he may have to start holding daily hearings in order to compel discovery.

Among the experts Flanagan said he expects to call is a leading authority on the use propofol. Flanagan said the witness believes Jackson was addicted to the pain killer Demerol and was withdrawing it at the time of his death, which may have complicated his reactions.

Outside court, Flanagan said prosecutors had 20 months to prepare their case while the defense began developing evidence in the past six weeks after a preliminary hearing.

Flanagan said outside court that he believes Pastor can't overrule the speedy trial requirement unless the defense is found unprepared on the day of trial. By then, the judge will have called hundreds of prospective jurors to the courthouse and arranged for extra security. He stressed that arranging for such a high-profile trial is time consuming and complicated.
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I think a group of teenagers could have put together a better trial or this forum. Yep that's it let us do it!!! :D
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