Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Persons Of Interest => The Jackson Family & Kids => Janet Jackson => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on February 10, 2011, 03:47:42 PM
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Repost from MJKIT, originally posted by bbb, Mon 7 Feb 2011 (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/t4144-janet-jackson-opens-up-about-her-brother-michael-s-death)
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[youtube:1wig66at]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE65HHRdJK0[/youtube:1wig66at]
more to come of what? grieve, or what?
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This just in from the L.A. Times....I'm sorry to report that I don't know how this information fits in with the Hoax...any thoughts?
Janet Jackson says brothers verbally abused her
Los Angeles —
Pop singer Janet Jackson says her big brother Michael Jackson used to tease her as a youngster about her bottom, while their other siblings called her a "horse," "pig" and "cow."
In an interview with NBC correspondent Meredith Vieira, on the promotional trail for her memoir, Jackson said the verbal abuse made her insecure about her looks.
"I would literally bang my head up against the wall because I didn't feel attractive," she said. "There was a lot of pain in my life. But I did. I felt very unattractive."
She used to laugh at the barnyard taunts, and said Michael's comments about her bottom were probably affectionate. But rather than confront him about his hurtful words, she simply internalized the pain.
Jackson, 44, relates her childhood trauma in her book "True You: A Journey to Finding and Loving Yourself," which will be published on Feb. 15.
As with her siblings, Jackson was beaten by her father who forced her to call him by his first name, Joseph. Still she escaped relatively lightly, recalling that she was struck with a belt just once.
"I know my father loves me," she said. "He just has a very, very different way of showing it."
Michael Jackson, almost eight years older than Janet, once tearfully recalled that his father would "tear you up" with a belt or some other convenient cord, and "would throw you up against the wall."
Of her brother, whom she last saw about six weeks before he died in 2009, Jackson said she embarked on the grieving process long after everyone else in the family.
"I don't know if it was trying to shield the pain, or just trying to hold it all together because I saw that everyone else around me was falling apart. And, never -- never taking that moment to really grieve. Really grieve, even at the service [in July 2009]."
But she recently allowed herself to watch his videos and listen to his music during a nightlong session in Paris.
"And, there was moments when I-- I felt the cry, and moments that made me laugh. And, it was good for me. I needed it," she said.
Jackson's NBC interview will air on Friday and next Monday on "Today," and Sunday Feb 13 on "Dateline."
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/sn ... 1377.story (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/sns-rt-entertainment-janet-jackson-brothers-verbally-abused-me-20110207,0,7541377.story)
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So, she wrote a book and will be promoted then.
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Interesting. What do you guys think?
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another book , ...and not understand your grief, I say, she made a film, giving interviews, singing at the Video Music Awards, ... and after the mourning :scratch:
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It is interesting that Dateline is airing this interview of Janet's the same day as the Grammy's?
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So, she wrote a book and will be promoted then.
Another book, interesting.....
Thanks for posting!
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She said, "Theres more to come. Theres more to come." Wonder what she was referring to????
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everyone is writing a book :study: not enough hours in the day to keep up :scratch:
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i saw this somewhere else earlier and someone else mentioned it just as it causght my eye. the layout here looks eerily like the lisa /ophra interview. so you think so?
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suspicious mind wrote:
i saw this somewhere else earlier and someone else mentioned it just as it causght my eye. the layout here looks eerily like the lisa /ophra interview. so you think so?
You know, you're absolutely correct about this! This IS eerie! WTH?
Does anyone know how to put up a side by side comparison between the two interviews?
Thanks!
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She said, "Theres more to come. Theres more to come." Wonder what she was referring to????
She couldn't say "The Best is Yet To Come" and that's why she said "There is More to Come" :lol:
The show is not over yet, there is more to come for sure. ;)
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What do they mean "opened up" about Michael's death? It's almost been 2 years, and she's had many interviews before this! She's already "opened up" about it. :scratch:
I also agree about the "There's more to come" thing :)
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Oh, a new opening up. I thought at first this was the other interview she gave. To Oprah, or the Robin Roberts one...
This makes me really think he is not dead. I doubt she would reveal how he "verbally abused" her were he really gone. Btw- REALLY? He was teasing her, NOT verbally abusing her. I work with people being verbally abused (and more)- and this is not verbal abuse. It is sibling teasing - not nice, but people recover from that.
Yes, another book indeed.
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suspicious mind wrote:
i saw this somewhere else earlier and someone else mentioned it just as it causght my eye. the layout here looks eerily like the lisa /ophra interview. so you think so?
You know, you're absolutely correct about this! This IS eerie! WTH?
Does anyone know how to put up a side by side comparison between the two interviews?
Thanks!
[youtube:2jblw4c1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE65HHRdJK0[/youtube:2jblw4c1]
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/images/20 ... prah-1.jpg (http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/images/2010/10/lisa-marie-presley-on-oprah-1.jpg)
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/lisa-mari ... -on-oprah/ (http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/lisa-marie-presley-on-oprah/)
You have to go to Oprah's site to see a clear copy of the video (many that were on youtube are gone...) Click on the link and then stop the video at :09
http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Lisa-Mar ... -Jackson_1 (http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Lisa-Marie-Presley-Speaks-Out-About-the-Death-of-Michael-Jackson_1)
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I was looking back to when Janet was in Paris in 2010 and it was during Paris`Fashion week. She busy attending runway shows, parties and other events the entire week...including evenings.
Roberto Cavalli's 40th anniversary party September 29, 2010 in Paris
(http://www.rap-up.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/janet-cavalli-2.jpg)
(http://honeygerman.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/janet-jackson-.jpg)
Other photos from that week
(http://girltalk247.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/janet-2.jpg?w=404&h=594)
(http://girltalk247.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/janet-4.jpg?w=394)
(http://img2.timeinc.net/instyle/images/2010/fashionweek/022210-Janet-Jackson-400.jpg)
(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Janet+Jackson+Lanvin+Paris+Fashion+Week+Spring+mxLCq4asM4il.jpg)
(http://thatgrapejuice.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/janet-naomi-3.jpg)
with Naomi Campbell
There are tons of photos on the Internet, of Janet, taken over that entire week. Now, I am not saying that she couldn`t have taken one evening to watch videos etc. but I doubt that someone who was having such a wonderful week with her new man, attending all these events and meeting up with old friends and acquaintances was grieving. Also one night of grieving and she is good to move on with her life...
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(http://honeygerman.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/janet-jackson-.jpg)
She looks like a puppet and the bf is the puppet master :lol: :lol:
She is a very pretty woman I must say.
I know people grieves differently, but this family kept "busy" to not grieve or there was nothing to grieve about on the first place.
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she has some pretty good sized hands for a woman doesn't she?
p.s. treatment today guys. prayers appreciated. thank you . love you
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I can NEVER watch a Janet Jackson interview without thinking there is SOMETHING going on here anymore. It's almost too painful too, especially in this interview conducted. I get the feeling she is really agitated by the constant questions regarding MJ's "death," but at the same time she seems like she is almost constantly hiding her emotions under her sleeve.
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May God give you strength Suspicious mind!
The Lisa/Oprah interview is with sunflowers, many open windows and highback chairs. But they both show lots of greenery outside.
Seems like everybody's capitalizing on MJ by writing a book. MJ teasing her about her butt is definately affectionate not abuse, especially since MJ clearly said that was one thing he loved about women.
"I love it when you shake that thing, especially." :lol:
But the media's always out to find something negative to write about MJ.
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everyone is writing a book :study: not enough hours in the day to keep up :scratch:
Yes your right Sparkle29Ful! but you made me :D and :lol:
Thankyou I needed that.
:)
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I can’t appreciate her even mentioning in passing that Michael “abused” her. That’s a crock. She and Michael have always spoken about how close and silly they were. And the nick name “dunk” seemed more of an endearment than an abuse. I hope Janet is not getting on the same bandwagon as the rest of the aspiring writers re Michael Jackson. That would finalize it for me. I could no longer listen to any of the siblings and fiend any real respect.
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don't believe what the article says about janet saying that michael and her other siblings abusing her. she never said that right out of her mouth. she said how they teased her saying like "horse,pig, donk" whatever. it was funny and they made her laugh but in the end it did hurt her. she wasn't one of those people that let stuff like that go easily she held every thing in.
this is the link if you don't believe me:
http://scoop.today.com/_news/2011/02/07/6006564-janet-jackson-opens-up-about-body-issues-relationship-with-father
As for the book, it is not about all Michael and what not. if you watch her previous interviews, she said it is about her journey of weight gain and weight loss. and how she dealt with them and such. apparently she claimed that she started writing the book even before Michael died and placed it on hold for a bit but it is now completed.
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I feel bad saying it but I've started despising her in a way. She turns my stomach. She is so freaking resentful, it's not even normal... talking about how Michael teased her about being a FAT COW for years and years. You're an adult now, Janet, it's about time you started dealing with it. She even said (when she was asked) that she did confront Michael about it later in life and that he apologized. So why on earth does she keep holding a PUBLIC grudge like that, always talking about it, even now? He teased her because she was fat, not just because her butt was big. She was a big girl, she was over-weight. That's something entirely different than being teased about something you really have no control over, e.g. your nose. I believe she's always been somewhat jealous, I have no other explanation.
Taraborrelli claims in The Magic And The Madness that when he went to visit the Jacksons once for an interview, Michael's brothers were calling him 'big nose', too. When Bashir asked Michael directly if his brothers had teased him, Michael said: "My father did." If Taraborrelli is right, Michael basically lied for his brothers about this, and what does Janet do? She seems to be rather vindictive.
And to make it clear, I can understand it's part of her book, but she's been talking about this for years, and it's really nobody's business but MICHAEL's and JANET's. She said he apologized. What else does he have to do? And as if people didn't already hate him enough, she keeps dragging his name through the mud like that. "Oh, my cruel brother used to tease me so bad, it scarred me for life." That's RIDICULOUS. Stop eating, Janet, then people will stop complaining about your fat behind.
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Brothers and sisters tease each other all the time. My two little boys tease their teenage sister by calling her a "big fat walrus" a lot right now because she acts similar to a cartoon walrus on TV who sings a lot and is a bit of a slob (just like my daughter!). The fact that my daughter knows she's carrying a few extra pounds doesn't bother her because she's comfortable in her own shape, she likes being curvy and I wouldn't want her to be like one of those anorexic skinny girls in magazines. She doesn't mind the teasing and just hits back with her own nicknames.
They're just words and yes some people are more sensitive than others but I believe if MJ was teased mercilessly by his father about his own appearance then it could also be a learned behaviour. MJ knows how much that hurt him but in Janet's case I remember reading he said that he only called her a big fat cow or whatever to try and encourage her to lose weight because he knew she was beautiful and wanted her to look her best. Not the best way to go about it, but in his way he probably thought he was helping her. For her own health and self-esteem she seems to be at her ideal weight now but I remember the National Enquirer front page pictures of her when she ballooned in weight, she was obviously very self-concious about being pictured that way. If she was happier at that weight she'd still be that weight, regardless of industry pressures. MJ teasing her probably just compounded all the misery she was feeling about herself and made her eat even more for comfort. She can't blame him still for this, he's explained and apologised. And considering what's been said by the world and his dog about MJ's appearance over the years she should really think before she mentions it at all. You think you had it bad Janet? How did he feel? Suddenly "big fat cow" doesn't seem like the worst insult in the world considering the names he's been called and is still called by some.
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For gods sake tha is what brothers and sisters do tease each other my brothers did and do with me and me with them. It is natures way of hardening you up for the outside world it's natural not cruel or unusual
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Janet's book has been in the works for awhile, so it isn't something that she just decided to write a few months ago. She has also mentioned before how Michael used to taunt her about her weight, so this isn't the first time she has addressed that issue either. In fact, I am almost positive that Latoya has also addressed the family riding Janet throughout her life about her weight.
Quite frankly, I think it's awful that Michael used to make fun of her, especially after Joe made fun of him so much! You would think that after the things Joe used to say to Michael that he would have been a little more sensitive to Janet's feelings, particularly since he knew how much she looked up to him. If he was concerned about her weight, there were other ways that he could have addressed it with her. He didn't have to call her a cow! Lisa has also said that Michael gave her a hard time for gaining a few pounds when they were married. I hope he doesn't start giving Paris a hard time about it if/when she gains a little weight. Another thing that really bothers me about the family giving Janet such a hard time about her weight is the fact that no one has ever mentioned anyone saying anything to Tito about his weight, and he certainly wasn't nearly as thin as the other brothers.
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But the thing is tht is what most brothers do take the p out of you my brothers did my children do it to each other idont mean they make each other cry but it is jesting that they love too do in fact when my daughter left home she missed all of that and popped home for another round of it
But with Janet she has taken it seriously if we are to believe this I feel Michael is kind and thoughtful but in the safety of his own home and family he liked to wind people up saying that my children always lookafter each other and protect each other
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I am not going to say anything about the details of Janet and Michael's relationship because I have no right to comment but I will say this: Hurt people hurt other people. Just that simple.
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For gods sake tha is what brothers and sisters do tease each other my brothers did and do with me and me with them. It is natures way of hardening you up for the outside world it's natural not cruel or unusual
exactly. It may not be right but that's the way it is. My brother was a horror, teased me mercilessly, but it doesn't mean he didn't love me. Simply human nature.
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She is quite the actress... I love the way she says that she is not grieving because there is "more to come". I feel the same way Janet.
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I come from a large family of 12 my parents had 10 girls and one boy and one adopted brother and trust me living with all those siblings was hell. We fought all the time and called each other names too but it was all done in fun thats what sisters and brothers do but trust me when I tell you there was so much love and we never took any of it to heart. we laughed about it after. So I know Michael didnt mean anything by it Im sure Janet called him names too sometimes during their childhood thats what all kids do to each other. Im sure she knew that her brother loved her very much so I dont think she should take it that far with saying it was abuse. I feel she is wrong for saying that.
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I think Janet was being sincere.
By The way...The Best Is Yet To Come is an old Frank Sinatra song.
[youtube:1bon1t5r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmf1AYgYj6I[/youtube:1bon1t5r]
Michael worshiped all of these older actor's and actresses that he grew up watching.
Pay attention to what MJ says in this video.
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Michael Jackson (as Frank Sinatra) and Diana Ross 1971
[youtube:2fyp56kl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpuzLQussDo[/youtube:2fyp56kl]
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For gods sake tha is what brothers and sisters do tease each other my brothers did and do with me and me with them. It is natures way of hardening you up for the outside world it's natural not cruel or unusual
Totally agree with you! with whom you can have a relationship like that if not with your brothers and sisters?
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Anyone watching her Dateline interview now?
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Anyone watching her Dateline interview now?
I am now, thanks!
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me too
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she's a very good actress :lol:
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yes watching it...thank god my mom called me to tell me if was on lol...then i was checking this site to see any updates..lol..thanks to all
huggs n faith to all
suzz
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She was talking about her difficulty about letting herself grieve for Michael (wonder why ;) ) and then she said, "There's more to come, more to come".
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I love the fact that her interview is this long. This is great publicity for Janet and the Jackson family.
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Janet talks about watching this in the Dateline interview:
[youtube:cvrs32g3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drSdhyBrIKw[/youtube:cvrs32g3]
So much fun! :D
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I missed it- shoot!- Well, I am sure it will be on youtube soon. :) LOVE the home movies!
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the part about teasing about her bottom reminds me of the bashir interview where he makes the comment about black people have big behinds ( or however he said it exactly)
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This is the first interview done by a Jackson that I enjoyed. I am so happy that the Jacksons were a large family and they had each other to lean on for comfort because that Joe was a piece of work. Without each other no telling how they would have turned out. :|
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this interview shows otherwise of the article posted before. don't believe these articles saying she felt verbally abused :roll: . i loved the interview as well. ;)
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If he was concerned about her weight, there were other ways that he could have addressed it with her. He didn't have to call her a cow!
But you don't know whether he confronted her in any other ways or not. Janet said Michael used to look at magazines and show her pictures of women, saying: "This is what your butt should look like." That is basically another way to tell her to lose weight, it's not merely teasing.
I don't know if you have any overweight friends or family members, but it can be very hard to convince them that they have to change. I have a very overweight friend, and you don't want to know how many times I've asked her how her diet's going, offering her help, etc. She doesn't care. And when people start getting rude, she likes to blame them, complaining about them being mean or something. Like Janet. But the thing is, as Michael himself pointed out in the Michael Jackson Tapes, you get frustrated, you don't want your friends or family members to be big, you want them to do something about it.
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I really enjoyed the interview myself.It seems that MJ and Janet are the only ones who has talked about Joe Jackson abusing them physically and mentally. I do remember Janet saying in another interview that Joe spanked her because she was in Joe's and Katherine's room. I think that was beating she was talking about that she couldn't remember what she did. I think she was 3 years old at the time. Janet said she was searching the internet of photos of her and the family. Then she was youtubing came across MJ's private home videos of herself. Did you think this was strange? You could tell when she was lying or keeping info about MJ. Her eyes would shift to the left.
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the part about teasing about her bottom reminds me of the bashir interview where he makes the comment about black people have big behinds ( or however he said it exactly)
that's a fact though
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Did anyone notice the "elephant in the room"? behind Meredith.
"Elephant in the room" is an English idiom for an obvious truth that is being ignored or goes unaddressed. The idiomatic expression also applies to an obvious problem or risk no one wants to discuss.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_in_the_room (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_in_the_room)
Oh, probably just a coincidence !!!!
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I missed it- shoot!- Well, I am sure it will be on youtube soon. :) LOVE the home movies!
Hello ignisaeternus!!!!!
Yes is on youtube,I'm now watching all parts.Here if you want to look:
Janet Jackson Dateline Interview 2011 (Part 1/6)
[youtube:30v8oyci]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyPjh3c2oUo&feature=related[/youtube:30v8oyci]
Janet Jackson Dateline Interview 2011 (Part 2/6)
[youtube:30v8oyci]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2c4FB6R4sc&feature=related[/youtube:30v8oyci]
Janet Jackson Dateline Interview 2011 (Part 3/6)
[youtube:30v8oyci]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX9DeQEr_wM&feature=related[/youtube:30v8oyci]
Janet Jackson Dateline Interview 2011 (Part 4/6)
[youtube:30v8oyci]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e-ytoUOzk4[/youtube:30v8oyci]
Janet Jackson Dateline Interview 2011 (Part 5/6)
[youtube:30v8oyci]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdrjpcl_eF8&feature=related[/youtube:30v8oyci]
Janet Jackson Dateline Interview 2011 (Part 6/6)
[youtube:30v8oyci]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ZPgeuF5bc&feature=related[/youtube:30v8oyci]
In the begining of part 5 I'm the only one to see a Michael Jackson impresonator,that one with the mask???
It's weird that the producers didnt knew that man is not Michael,lol :lol: .
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