Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => After June 25, 2009 => The Memorial => Topic started by: Leah-Kim on December 11, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
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All Yellow flowers?
Looking happy...
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Good pictures. Thanks for posting them. They all look happy, but is it because their having their picture taken? What do the yellow flowers symbolize? Why are the guys wearing them? :? :? :? :?
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WTH! They look like their at some party not getting read to say goodbye to Michael Jackson aka Timors boss! They all look like their having the time of their lives! Am I the only one that feels this way when looking at the pictures? :?
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They look too happy to be at a memorial. They look as if they are at a wedding, they are either heartless and fickle or know something we know but cannot prove.
BTW, would love to see backstage pictures of the children and siblings of MJ-they would probably speak volumes!
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WTH! They look like their at some party not getting read to say goodbye to Michael Jackson aka Timors boss! They all look like their having the time of their lives! Am I the only one that feels this way when looking at the pictures? :?
No your not the only one... I have attended many funerals and yes sometimes we have taken pics but always afterwards when we were rat arsed... Never before and yeah to me its weird..
And again the yellow theme....
Always yellow and red!!!
Anyone else notice how MURRAY has only ever worn Yellow or RED ties??? The RED tie was for the church video thingy where he cried..
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uh, I needed to see those photos!
thx
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all Timor :P
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Some of the pix look photochopped to me
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Kind of reminds me of Timors pics from Forest Lawn where they are by his Liberian girl pic with huge grins on their face!!
All smiles to put MJ 6ft under!! How respectful!! And then to put them on your website.. Its weird for me...
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Those pics are from Timor's website?!?!
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WOW. Not one bit of sympathy in the entire bunch. I agree... it looks more like a social event.
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:D <--this is the appropriate facial expression for memorial and funeral services?
not convinced :lol:
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WTH!!!! :shock: Mind you this was only 2 WEEKS after Michael's "passing"!! Do you know how emotionally distraught and messed up I was. I was in no shape to watch that funeral live. So I went home after work and watched it in the privacy of my own home. I was crying every few seconds (yes, even at work). Even after finding MJHD I still about bouts of crying spells for months. This is too insane to me really. Last time I checked you aren't suppose to be ke-ke'ing it up a funeral or a memorial. HOAX anyone?
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WTH! They look like their at some party not getting read to say goodbye to Michael Jackson aka Timors boss! They all look like their having the time of their lives! Am I the only one that feels this way when looking at the pictures? :?
you're definetly not the only one... :roll:
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these pictures / these people this is absolutely surreal .... who looks then there mourning.
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Memorial pics humm :| ....I can't recall having such a great time at a memorial...but that's just me...I guess I'm too sensitive :roll: ...By the way,what's all these signs with their fingers?So cool :roll:
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I don't know if this is a clue, but last pic, the guy on right, has got a red pic on his tie, i zoomed in and it's Hendrix (Who also died in suspicious circumstances!!??)
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Looking way too happy there guys. What does yellow symbolize?
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Hello Lee.H,
Been doing some research about the meanings of the colour yellow, Here are some facts:
Meanings Of Yellow...
"In Egypt and Burma, yellow signifies mourning.
In Spain, executioners once wore yellow.
In India, yellow is the symbol for a merchant or farmer.
In tenth-century France, the doors of traitors and criminals were painted yellow.
** Hindus in India wear yellow to celebrate the festival of SPRING. ** ;)
If someone is said to have a "yellow streak," that person is considered a coward.
In Japan during the War of Dynasty in 1357, each warrior wore a yellow chrysanthemum as a pledge of courage.
A yellow ribbon is a sign of support for soldiers at the front.
Yellow is a symbol of jealousy and deceit.
** In the Middle Ages, ACTORS portraying the DEAD in a PLAY wore yellow. ** ;)
(What colour was michael wearing on the funeral photo's- Liberian girl?) ;)
To holistic healers, yellow is the color of peace.
Yellow has good visibility and is often used as a color of warning. It is also a symbol for quarantine, an area marked off because of danger.
"Yellow journalism" refers to irresponsible and alarmist reporting." ;)
Mostly it represents happiness.
Sun, happiness,
**SPRING, NEW BEGINING.** ;)
Cheerfulness.
** A dull yellow represents sickness and decay a bit.**
Maybe simply represent food like corn and some flowers.
Yellow
Cheerful sunny yellow is an attention getter. While it is considered an optimistic color, people lose their tempers more often in yellow rooms, and babies will cry more. It is the most difficult color for the eye to take in, so it can be overpowering if overused. Yellow enhances concentration, hence its use for legal pads. It also speeds metabolism
What does wearing yellow at a funeral mean?
Yellow represents cheefulness, happiness. You are supposed to show sorrow or grief during a funeral which is best symbolized by wearing black.
Well yellow is the color of hope and happiness. I wouldn't recommend wearing yellow to a funeral. You are supposed to be celebrating their life after death to be wearing yellow on this type of occassion is not common.
There’s a good reason why it can feel all but impossible to refrain from smiling when you spot a bouquet of bright daffodils or a pot filled with sun-drenched chrysanthemums–the color yellow evokes feelings of joy and lightheartedness.
Also a symbol of friendship, a bouquet bursting with yellow blooms sends a message of NEW BEGGININGS and happiness. ;)
Friendship is the main meaning of the yellow rose but it also signifies familiar love and domestic happiness. Yellow roses also symbolize fun and FREEDOM. ;)
Today, the yellow rose is used to embrace a NEW BEGINING, apologize or express sympathy, and to say, "remember me" , "I am sorry', or "I care." Yellow roses are appropriate for marking the BEGINING OF A NEW LIFE of a new life together or for STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN. ;)
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Nevertheless, these people never have no grief .......What for creatures you must his to act so coldly Unemotional :? Nevertheless, his this person cannot play really people this probably her own roles, otherwise, nothing at all :D
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Sorry, but I cried buckets and I never had the opportunity to meet MJ ? This is one of the factors that causes me to doubt that he has died. For all those who said they loved him that he was so great, where were the human signs of loss, who was too choked to talk? How can so many bury thier emotional loss so deep, it is not that I want to see pain, but I felt in myself it was unavoidable, the grief was there.
Or is this how celebrity deals with loss?
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I just saw a vid of Stevie Wonder singing "The Way You Make Me Feel" and he did cry. He seems to be real and his emotion appears to be normal. He is really sad!
I talk about Stevie here because it is worth to mention that one person behaves like he is mourning.
Throughout the months after Michael's "death" I felt offended because no one seemed to really be sad - not as sad as I was and still am every now and then (when doubts enter my mind).
How can it be that his closest friends and relatives cope with his death so well and I was sick for weeks and months. It really is offending for me ... you feel me?
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i have never been to a furneral that could pass as a party so many smiles i was blinded ,and doesnt timor love the spotlight ;)
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No, nevertheless, such a thing there is not normally....Wander these people :? - or crazily happily :D
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mmmm I didn't know that's the kind of face that you should put when you go to a memorial. I will remember it for next time :? People are way too happy and the gestures with the hands it's like they're going to a bar to have some fun. Not even the women, that you could imagine would let out their emotions a little more, look not even a little sad, not blown eyes from crying. Anything!
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Again all smiles something is seriously wrong here.....
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It seems its all a laugh and a joke to some people
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I watched it on tv and was a complete wreck before-during and after would not have been all smiles for photos!!!!!!!
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IF he is indeed gone, these have to be the most disrespectful people I have ever seen. Plus, I cant believe any of the people in these photos are in on the hoax except Sharpton, Miko and Kenny. So I guess we are wittnessing some disrespectful (friends) here. :evil: :(
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It seems its all a laugh and a joke to some people
so it seems :?
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They laugh and smile for just 2 reason IMO!
1. They do not even care if he's dead or alive, they're just there for money. (Maybe) :lol:
2. Because he's very much alive! ;)
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IF he is indeed gone, these have to be the most disrespectful people I have ever seen. Plus, I cant believe any of the people in these photos are in on the hoax except Sharpton, Miko and Kenny. So I guess we are wittnessing some disrespectful (friends) here. :evil: :(
Well, Ms Shields speech was very "tearfull". Wasn´t it?? Let us not forget that she is an actress :)
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These people tend to celebrate life.
A bereavement is impossible with such emotion.
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Thanks for these I hadn't seen them, looks more like an award show... I'd get over Jennifer Hudson smiling but all MJ's close friends all smiles and happy happy!!! Berry Gordy and Al Sharpton look like they are having a ball...
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I remember crying just at the thought of the memorial. I cried the night before, I cried the hours before it started. And when they showed that golden casket going into the hearse, Oh my God, I had a break down. I was a complete mess through out the whole ceremony and for the rest of the day. I don't know how these people were able to smile, laugh and be so cheerful. I doubt that they are in on the hoax. Even though I was already a hoax believer, I was still crying. Michael knew many people, but had very few good friends. I doubt he was still close to any of those that were there at the memorial. Not that that excuses their coldness..
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poor michael if he is really gone ,but is must be a hoax, why else these people are smiling like they are at a marriage ?? :shock:
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crazy pictures i have never been to a funeral where people are smiling that happily just crazy
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I can not accept that this in a real bereavement could express themselves in this kind
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We should keep in mind that not everybody is in the Hoax. So people might be happy for other reasons as well in there. Being a part of such an event, being invited, hanging around with famous people etc. Look at Timor, he looks like he's having the fun of his life. But is it possible for him to be on the hoax? I wouldn't bet on it.
I'd cut them some slack, considering it's the Memorial and not the Funeral....But still...Hmm :?:
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While the fans couldn't stop crying these people are laughing .... :o
I just don't get it, because I don't think they are all in the hoax .... :evil:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
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Nor do I think it may involve as many people but obviously have some?
There would not like people but creatures to act as - How are we to explain such a behavior otherwise?
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Yellow Flowers stand for RESPECT. It means they respect the family of the deceased one, but I want to refuse to believe that. I want to believe MJ is alive, but it is so hard for me to understand...
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While the fans couldn't stop crying these people are laughing .... :o
I just don't get it, because I don't think they are all in the hoax .... :evil:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
They might not be all in the hoax but like us they smell a rat :D
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The colour yellow (imo) appears in this context a little too often to be accidentally:
Michael´s yellow shirt in the choosen Liberian Girl picture,
The yellow ties of his brothers at the Memorial,
The boutonniéres of the guests pictured above...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tie_a_Yell ... e_Oak_Tree (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tie_a_Yellow_Ribbon_Round_the_Ole_Oak_Tree)
The symbol of a yellow ribbon became widely known in civilian life in the 1970s as a reminder of an absent loved one, either in the military or in jail that they would be welcomed home on their return.
And do not forget this article from 8th of July:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31789413/ns ... nt-gossip/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31789413/ns/entertainment-gossip/)
Quote: "The color coordination wasn’t planned, said a person who helped the Jackson family with the wardrobe for the memorial. “The color has family significance,” he said. “It was fine for the world to notice, and they’ll explain it when they’re ready. But they wanted to put the message out there.”
Interesting choice of words, isn´t it?... ;)
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Quote: "The color coordination wasn’t planned, said a person who helped the Jackson family with the wardrobe for the memorial. “The color has family significance,” he said. “It was fine for the world to notice, and they’ll explain it when they’re ready. But they wanted to put the message out there.”
Interesting choice of words, isn´t it?..
RE-he-he-ALLY?
Something is just not right here!
And I've begun to wonder why the Liberian Girl picture? There are THOUSANDS of pictures of MJ; some that are probably more iconic and recognizable than the Liberian Girl one.
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Quote: "The color coordination wasn’t planned, said a person who helped the Jackson family with the wardrobe for the memorial. “The color has family significance,” he said. “It was fine for the world to notice, and they’ll explain it when they’re ready. But they wanted to put the message out there.”
Interesting choice of words, isn´t it?..
RE-he-he-ALLY?
Something is just not right here!
And I've begun to wonder why the Liberian Girl picture? There are THOUSANDS of pictures of MJ; some that are probably more iconic and recognizable than the Liberian Girl one.
The family put that message out there?? Where was this quote written? What is the source? Seems so strange that they would bother saying this..
“It was fine for the world to notice, and they’ll explain it when they’re ready. REALLY ARE YOU READY YET?? PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!!!
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I would be messed up if i had to say THE LAST goodbye to MY HERO, the man that was my biggest inspiration :roll: But he thats me :roll: :P i dont know him and in the first week after the memorial i was a little mess but then i found this BUT anyways :roll: It's strange IMO
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Yeah it looks like it's eating them up inside. :roll:
When I watched the memorial I was fighting to hold the tears back. And cried for weeks after. To see them all smiling and looking like there having the time of their lives is quite insulting. If they were all Michael's so called "friends" you'd think that if he had "died" there would be a lot more tears.
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:x The day after announcing the "death" Michael, take a taxi to work, I did not feel able to go driving I, well, I take the taxi and the driver was a fan of Michael and was listening at that point the song smile, as I could not stand the crying, get to work and locked myself in the bathroom to mourn. I could not see the full funeral or burial, and these people all the time smiling and posing for photographers to see who is more "pretty", and the brothers crying now in its reality.
One detail, Larry King was in mourning.
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Have you seen these pictures :?: :?: :?:
http://realstarnews.com/2009/07/michael-jacksons-private-funeral/
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If Michael really IS gone then these people are seriously f****d up!
These sort of pics really make it so damned hard to accept anything other than a hoax because I just can't believe for one second that there would be so many happy smiley faces at MJ's memorial.
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I have more pictures,One of the ladies with the miners clothes I have nothing to say :?
http://3xgp.com/blog/index.php/2009/07/07/pix-relive-michael-jacksons-memorial-service-in-photos-tuesday-july-7th-2009/
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If Michael really IS gone then these people are seriously f****d up!
These sort of pics really make it so damned hard to accept anything other than a hoax because I just can't believe for one second that there would be so many happy smiley faces at MJ's memorial.
Sure doesn't look like a memorial... ;)
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bet mj was taking the pictures :lol:
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WTF was this a memorial or a party, they don't look sad at all. If I saw these and didn't know where they were taken i'd def think they were at some awards bash.
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if mj has passed it is truly disgusting that his dancers are living it up at his memorial and funeral, and looking forward to the 02 tour - the drills without the master himself, they weren't fans, they did not care for the man
shocking
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Quote: "The color coordination wasn’t planned, said a person who helped the Jackson family with the wardrobe for the memorial. “The color has family significance,” he said. “It was fine for the world to notice, and they’ll explain it when they’re ready. But they wanted to put the message out there.”
Interesting choice of words, isn´t it?..
RE-he-he-ALLY?
Something is just not right here!
And I've begun to wonder why the Liberian Girl picture? There are THOUSANDS of pictures of MJ; some that are probably more iconic and recognizable than the Liberian Girl one.
The family put that message out there?? Where was this quote written? What is the source? Seems so strange that they would bother saying this..
“It was fine for the world to notice, and they’ll explain it when they’re ready. REALLY ARE YOU READY YET?? PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!!!
wow..wow.. wow.. I also wannna know the source of this.. this is a big coincidence! why is that some people say things like this and then is some other that call us crazy??.. you don't need to be a believer to find that this statement is odd, because.. what will they explain? what for? when? it will change something?
please I wanna know the source of this!!
lots of L.O.V.E!
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Quote: "The color coordination wasn’t planned, said a person who helped the Jackson family with the wardrobe for the memorial. “The color has family significance,” he said. “It was fine for the world to notice, and they’ll explain it when they’re ready. But they wanted to put the message out there.”
Interesting choice of words, isn´t it?..
RE-he-he-ALLY?
Something is just not right here!
And I've begun to wonder why the Liberian Girl picture? There are THOUSANDS of pictures of MJ; some that are probably more iconic and recognizable than the Liberian Girl one.
The family put that message out there?? Where was this quote written? What is the source? Seems so strange that they would bother saying this..
“It was fine for the world to notice, and they’ll explain it when they’re ready. REALLY ARE YOU READY YET?? PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!!!
wow..wow.. wow.. I also wannna know the source of this.. this is a big coincidence! why is that some people say things like this and then is some other that call us crazy??.. you don't need to be a believer to find that this statement is odd, because.. what will they explain? what for? when? it will change something?
please I wanna know the source of this!!
lots of L.O.V.E!
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Good pictures. Thanks for posting them. They all look happy, but is it because their having their picture taken? What do the yellow flowers symbolize? Why are the guys wearing them? :? :? :? :?
i dont know what the yellow means... but i remember Jermaine saying that they would lett everyone know the meaning of the yeallow later.... (this was right after or befoere the memorial) ,,,, but htey have not told us...
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Like Conrad Murray always wears yellow ties...or red ties.I never saw a picture of CM with ties of another color! I think it has a meaning!
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Next time one of the Jacksons is on Twitter, I'm going to ask them what significance the colours were at the memorial and burial.
If they want to "put it out there" then I will give them the opportunity!! ;)
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WTH!!!! :shock: Mind you this was only 2 WEEKS after Michael's "passing"!! Do you know how emotionally distraught and messed up I was. I was in no shape to watch that funeral live. So I went home after work and watched it in the privacy of my own home. I was crying every few seconds (yes, even at work). Even after finding MJHD I still about bouts of crying spells for months. This is too insane to me really. Last time I checked you aren't suppose to be ke-ke'ing it up a funeral or a memorial. HOAX anyone?
You're not alone. I was the same way. I don't understand the joyful faces. And it doesn't just look they are putting up a front...they look truly happy. I sure hope they know something we "think" we know.
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Pics from some fan, who attended the "Memorial"...
(http://www.frankichan.com/website/MJ8.gif)
(http://www.frankichan.com/website/MJ2.gif)
(http://www.frankichan.com/website/MJ12.gif)
(http://www.frankichan.com/website/MJ15.gif)
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taken from http://www.proflowers.com (http://www.proflowers.com)
History and Meaning of Yellow Roses
Primary Significance: Friendship, Joy, Get Well
Yellow roses have a shorter, albeit no less fascinating, history than other roses. It wasn't until around the 18th century that yellow roses were discovered growing naturally in parts of the Middle East. Prior to this, roses in cultivation predominantly existed in various shades of pink and to a lesser extent, white. However, once the first yellow roses were introduced, their popularity quickly spread.
During roughly this same time period, new rose cross-breeding and hybridization techniques were being innovated. These experiments would play an important role in the evolution of the yellow rose. One of the more compelling attributes of most roses is their sweet smelling fragrance. This was a trait that the first yellow roses did not share, and in fact, quite the opposite was true! In time however, as breeding and cultivation methods were refined, hybridizers were able to gradually phase in the more pleasing aroma that rose-lovers are accustomed to.
Also changed over the years were the meanings related to yellow roses. Throughout history, the color yellow has been closely associated with the sun. As the source of light and warmth, the sun is integral to life on Earth, and has been worshiped in many early societies. It should come as no surprise that the color of the sun would hold many positive connotations. In many Eastern cultures, for example, the color yellow represents joy, wisdom and power. However, in Europe at the time of the introduction of these roses, the color yellow carried much more negative overtones. Consequently, yellow roses were long used as a symbol for jealousy and dying love. As time went on, however, the more universal meanings connected with the color yellow have come to prevail and entwine themselves with the yellow rose. Today yellow roses are more commonly associated with joy and friendship.
A bouquet of yellow roses now brings to mind all of the sunny, cheerful feelings of warmth and happiness. In contrast to the romantic meanings attributed to other roses, the yellow rose is purely a symbol for friendship. This gives it a unique place in the pantheon of roses. Yellow roses can send the perfect message of appreciation and platonic love without the romantic subtext of other colors. They can represent feelings of joy and delight, and are an ideal way to brighten someone's day who may be feeling down. There is perhaps no other flower that is able to bring out a smile in quite the way that a yellow rose can.
Need we say more? That yellow rose along with those peoples behavior indicates that there is no death here. They are celebrating-pure and simple-and delighting in the fact that they have pulled off a huge hoax.....it will only get better my friends, count on it!!!!
I just read somewhere that yellow roses also signify big life events and freedom. Can you imagine that!?!?!? Hee hee!!!! We are on to something!!!!
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These photos are just the icing on the cake arent they....Such happy smiling faces after Michael was gone for only 2 weeks. You can see it in their eyes. No sadness there. How obvious can they be. They were not even trying to be sad
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Gosh it looks like a cool after party!!!
Usher did a great job at almost breaking down singing Gone Too Soon!!! Now he looks so HAPPY!!! Good job eh guys?
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It was just another concert everybody...and a photo op for some.
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The photos are really shocking,everyone seemed so sad and heartbroken during the memorial and minutes later they are all smiles, i saw these photos when reading a Russian journal back in 2009, they also were shocked by those photos and questioned the authenticity of MJ's death.If MJ is really gone then is is sooo sad, they are all hypocrites
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Hardly any were close friends of MJ's. Brooke was the closest....many, many moons ago. There was no love loss there. Interestingly, it seems like I saw her EVERYWHERE around that time too (endorsements, featured in magazines, etc). It all makes you wonder, right?
The photos are really shocking,everyone seemed so sad and heartbroken during the memorial and minutes later they are all smiles, i saw these photos when reading a Russian journal back in 2009, they also were shocked by those photos and questioned the authenticity of MJ's death.If MJ is really gone then is is sooo sad, they are all hypocrites
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yep, u're definitey right, none of them were close friends,but is it possibe to cry your eyes out and show that ur'e sooo heartbroken and then a few minutes later to smile as if nothing has really happened??? that is really odd to me, i could not stop crying for months
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You're right! I lost a co-worker some years back and our ENTIRE staff was a crying, snotty mess because we'd just saw him a few days prior. I hadn't worked with him very long but he was the sweetest guy. You'd think that MJ's death would've been devastating for them considering that they were chosen to work for the biggest star in the world on a major project that NEVER happened. These are what we'd call "Kool-aid smiles", as if the show was successful and they got paid!
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These photos are just the icing on the cake arent they....Such happy smiling faces after Michael was gone for only 2 weeks. You can see it in their eyes. No sadness there. How obvious can they be. They were not even trying to be sad
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Above you see Al Sharpton when he was rearly happy....at the Memorial.
Here you can see Al Sharpton when he is rearaly sad...at James brown Funeral
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7C1VVpH94kQ/SwC6C ... -large.jpg (http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7C1VVpH94kQ/SwC6CZXw3gI/AAAAAAAALbs/U0e61j5RWTE/13095686-13095688-large.jpg)
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/ ... ichael.jpg (http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/06/28/alg_sharpton-michael.jpg)
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Here it's better...i had posted it in the other treat ....Al Sharpton when he is rearly sad :
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/ ... ichael.jpg (http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/06/28/alg_sharpton-michael.jpg)
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Was James Brown burried with blue or black clothes?
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQgneaC_KEuRy1jcyHxLiRuZzUFtFRPqsILG3jFE6sv3QKgqV1C)
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRf1PhO1qTMrrW0FYpBUuf063oB9UQAlnbIJ7tZ-HF2jsSFHD2JCQ)
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LOOK LIKE ALL THIS HAPPY SMAIL PEOPLE HAPPILY PLAYNG HOAX ROLE BACK THERE ALREADY --- FROM THE BEGINNING>
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Sorry Kim - not able to quote ur pic correctly.. :(
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here are some behind the scenes-pics of Shaheen Jafargholi at the memorial rehersals...
In rehearsals the day before
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jul2009/1/6/image-1-for-backstage-with-shaheen-jafargholi-gallery-511491385.jpg)
Just minutes before his performance
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jul2009/2/8/image-8-for-backstage-with-shaheen-jafargholi-gallery-168333258.jpg)
On his way to the Staples Centre
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jul2009/5/7/image-7-for-backstage-with-shaheen-jafargholi-gallery-32637929.jpg)
With Stevie Wonder
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jul2009/0/6/image-6-for-backstage-with-shaheen-jafargholi-gallery-140862439.jpg)
With Brooke Shields
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jul2009/8/0/image-4-for-backstage-with-shaheen-jafargholi-gallery-260112104.jpg)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/2009/07/08/back ... -21505027/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/2009/07/08/backstage-with-shaheen-jafargholi-115875-21505027/)
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CANNOT SEE THEM