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Excellent post on the tubing, however I still believe the vein theory across the forehead is the illusion of the lighter tone. It is very clear that there is a lighter swatch across his nose and his forehead and I can't see any tubing across the forehead. The light definitely is an illusion there and you have to change the lighting to see it best.I did see that tubing across the cheek before in the pic, not making much of it. (not realizing he is intubated??? I guess) I am a little confused though. After being intubated there would be no need for this tubing. The airway is being occupied by the intubation. Around here the paramedics do not intubate, it is only done at the hospital.
This breaks my heart. I dont want to look at this photo anymore because if this is not a hoax, then we are looking at a photograph of MJ's dead body. :cry:
Hey everyone! I tried to post in here the other day and then all of sudden I lost what I wrote and I couldn't get back to the forum...I wanted to say that I posed this same question to a cousin of mine who works in the Coroner's office assisting in autopsy's, before this she worked in assisting in surgeries. I asked her that if this was a vein then his heart was beating and that would make chest compressions not needed and thus making the pic a fake... this is what she had to say in response to my question... The last paragraph I won't include, she gives her take on what might have happend the day he died from a medical perspective. Since I and all of you think this may not be the case, I will leave it out unless you like what she says about the pic and then I can post it for you all if you would like. Here is what she said about the veinQuote Ok, so I looked at the pic for a while and did as much reading as I could find...but I didn't find anything about the doctor's story, other than that he was giving him 50 mg of propofol before bed. OK, so here goes...1) Paramedics DO intubate and quite frequently. A face mask is never used in resuscitation as it is not a reliable method to get oxygen to the lungs. The throat may close or swell and the oxygen won't get to the lungs...an endotracheal tube goes all the way down to the bronchi and secures an airway that can't be obstructed.2) In regards to the bulging vein...when i look carefully at the pic (which is a horrible image, very unclear) I see a clear plastic tube which is part of the nasal O2 cannula under his nose. The nasal cannula has the two nose prongs in his nostril which you can see, and the tube continues out from each side until it joins up and attaches to an O2 tank. You can clearly see the tube across his left cheek and I believe the tube that goes across the right runs up beside his right nostril and is lying across his forehead, something easily done when an urgent resuscitation is going on. 3) The hand on the chest is NOT involved in the performing of CPR, which doesn't mean they weren't performing CPR when he was removed from the house, but this particular photo does not show hands performing CPR. He may have been reaching for something, and the angle makes it look like his hands are on MJ's body, but they are in front of his throat and not anywhere near his chest.So I'll tell you what I think happened, from experience and what little I know of the case...but I'll close to guarantee this is what went down...So according to her, the vein looks like a plastic tubing from the o2 canula resting on his forehead. Not a vein...I must say, I took another look and could see it as well.
Ok, so I looked at the pic for a while and did as much reading as I could find...but I didn't find anything about the doctor's story, other than that he was giving him 50 mg of propofol before bed. OK, so here goes...1) Paramedics DO intubate and quite frequently. A face mask is never used in resuscitation as it is not a reliable method to get oxygen to the lungs. The throat may close or swell and the oxygen won't get to the lungs...an endotracheal tube goes all the way down to the bronchi and secures an airway that can't be obstructed.2) In regards to the bulging vein...when i look carefully at the pic (which is a horrible image, very unclear) I see a clear plastic tube which is part of the nasal O2 cannula under his nose. The nasal cannula has the two nose prongs in his nostril which you can see, and the tube continues out from each side until it joins up and attaches to an O2 tank. You can clearly see the tube across his left cheek and I believe the tube that goes across the right runs up beside his right nostril and is lying across his forehead, something easily done when an urgent resuscitation is going on. 3) The hand on the chest is NOT involved in the performing of CPR, which doesn't mean they weren't performing CPR when he was removed from the house, but this particular photo does not show hands performing CPR. He may have been reaching for something, and the angle makes it look like his hands are on MJ's body, but they are in front of his throat and not anywhere near his chest.So I'll tell you what I think happened, from experience and what little I know of the case...but I'll close to guarantee this is what went down...
Why would an even source of light cause those kinds of deformities to the face? That doesn't even look real to me
this thread makes my head spin and tummy hurt....just thinking that its Michael is making me sick...No wonder if he really is gone they had the casket closed...but that would also remove peoples doubts but man...So your saying the pic is not shopped...but could be a dummy or him really in the ambulance right
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