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I think this is being blown way out of proportion. Anna asked a question (well, several):Quote from: "_Anna_"I will put it this way: if God can make things happen and is managing life's situations, then why did Michael have to suffer like that? Why did he have to be humiliated, ridiculed and have his heart thrown in the dirt when he is innocent? Since the very beginning, why did he have to suffer like that, what did he ever do wrong to have God put such weight on his shoulders? Admittedly, they may have been rhetorical ones but the point is that TS answered her query by redirecting to Job, an upright and righteous man who has done nothing wrong yet went through humiliation and ridicule—all according to "God's" plan. "God" allowed "Satan" to bring all sorts of calamities, suffering, and adversity into his life to test his character and faith. From what I've read, "God" deliberately allows for adversity in order to shape his believers into the people he wants/needs them to be.I'm not a religious person either, but I have read the literature (still in the process of finishing it actually). Reading a book doesn't automatically make you an adherent of any religion. Becoming part of a religion is a conscious choice. If you reassure yourself why you believe (or don't believe) what you do, I don't see how reading the bible (or TS' redirects) could unwillingly brainwash you. Mind-control is a legitimate and understandable concern. The more I read your posts, however, the more I see a classic case of prejudice. To use you as an example Anna, you're allowing an individual's interpretation of a book (and how they applied that interpretation) to define your opinion of the book, a book that you have no intention of personally acquainting yourself with first-hand, yet you still have formulated an opinion about it without getting to know it. This same prejudice, to this day, has people believing that Michael is a pedophile. They have no intention of acquainting themselves with Michael's true character nor, more importantly, what actually happened in 1993 and 2005. They flat out refuse to get to know Michael or familiarize themselves with the settlement in 1993 and the 2005 court case, and instead rely on the media's interpretation of what happened, the media's interpretation of Michael.And I say all this, not to imply that you need to read the bible, but to say that you shouldn't let your personal prejudices hinder you from seeing what's actually being said; don't let the source of the information throw you off and more importantly don't let anyone elses' interpretations (but your own) define your reality.Quote from: "_Anna_"Quote from: "Sarahli"And what if the Bible is also Michael's message?It could be, I don't know, only he knows.. But now, do you think Michael would try to express himself through the Bible? why would he try to push his beliefs on people?Well, to put myself in Michael's shoes, he seems to have a true and genuine concern for people; if he wholeheartedly believed the bible, why wouldn't he warn those he loved?
I will put it this way: if God can make things happen and is managing life's situations, then why did Michael have to suffer like that? Why did he have to be humiliated, ridiculed and have his heart thrown in the dirt when he is innocent? Since the very beginning, why did he have to suffer like that, what did he ever do wrong to have God put such weight on his shoulders?
Quote from: "Sarahli"And what if the Bible is also Michael's message?It could be, I don't know, only he knows.. But now, do you think Michael would try to express himself through the Bible? why would he try to push his beliefs on people?
And what if the Bible is also Michael's message?
However, to preach at someone doesn't do anything. If you guide people through a process of self discovery, personal research, etc. They will then make up their own minds.This is that journey again IMHO. This is the school of MJ! LOL
I think that Melody said a very KEY thing... If I put myself in Michael's shoes... we have to constantly do this since this is HIS hoax. He created it. He orchestrated it. He is executing it.It is so very important to reference what MJ said in his songs, in his books, in his speeches to figure out what he could be wanting us to know about.There IS a message. What do we believe that message is? If we believe TS, he has told us already that MJ's plan is to turn the NWO upside down, that we are in critical times (end of the world), that MJ reads his Bible daily, etc. I feel that we are going round and round in circles sometimes (maybe it's just me LOL).We can't feel bad for MJ and all he's gone through... that is HIS journey... he is being prepared for his part in God's plan. I truly believe that MJ has been given the power to impact millions of lives and thank GOD he takes that responsibility very seriously. I believe he lives his life the way he does not only for himself and his family, but to be the best example he can be because he KNOWS his decisions will impact MILLIONS!Well if you believed the world was ending, all the signs were there (corruption, greed, evil ways, eyes turning from God, etc.), and you knew you had an audience you would feel somewhat of a duty to share what you know. For instance, if you knew there was a bomb in a building and you were the only one, and there were 10 of your friends in there, wouldn't you feel a responsibility to say something? Of course! You would have to tell them! Even if they said, a bomb? Ha! You're crazy! You're over reacting! You would still want to say that you did everything in your power. That's all MJ is doing IMHO.However, to preach at someone doesn't do anything. If you guide people through a process of self discovery, personal research, etc. They will then make up their own minds.This is that journey again IMHO. This is the school of MJ! LOLI'm just rambling now but want to say thank you again to Melody for a very well written and well expressed post!
There IS a message. What do we believe that message is? If we believe TS, he has told us already that MJ's plan is to turn the NWO upside down, that we are in critical times (end of the world), that MJ reads his Bible daily, etc.
Quote from: "lilwendy"There IS a message. What do we believe that message is? If we believe TS, he has told us already that MJ's plan is to turn the NWO upside down, that we are in critical times (end of the world), that MJ reads his Bible daily, etc. can you please tell me where can I see with my eyes Michael stating he reads Bible daily? I just want to see with my eyes. Because I've read this sentence about Michael reading the Bible daily and who said that was Ian Halperin.If you know what I mean.As long as I don't see Michael saying with his own mouth "I read Bible daily", I don't believe it. I know it might sound harsh but it's how I think. I don't believe anybody who makes statements about him. Only he can know what he does inside his home.And I've never seen Michael with my own eyes saying he reads the Bible daily.Isn't it like this- to not believe anything you hear or see, and just because it's printed in black ink doesn't make it the gospel. "When you hear it from my mouth, then you can believe it"- Michael
curls wrote:GodIt's strange that God doesn't mind expressing Himself/Herself in all the religions of the world,while people still cling to the notion that their way is the only right way. Whatever you try to sayabout God, someone will take offense, even if you say everyone's love of God is right for them.For me the form God takes is not the most important thing. What's most important is theessence. My songs and dances are outlines for Him to come in and fill. I hold out the form. Sheputs in the sweetness.I've looked up at the night sky and beheld the stars so intimately close, it was as if mygrandmother had made them for me. "How rich, how sumptuous," I thought. In that moment Isaw God in His creation. I could as easily have seen Her in the beauty of a rainbow, the grace ofa deer bounding through a meadow, the truth of a father's kiss. But for me the sweetest contactwith God has no form. I close my eyes, look within, and enter a deep soft silence. The infinity ofGod's creation embraces me. We are one.
Well, I knew all those, I wondered if there is a video of it, but thank you for posting tough.