Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => The Redirects => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => TIAI ~ 2010 => Topic started by: jono on November 30, 2010, 12:23:49 AM
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search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts)
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hmmm, new updates are on their way...
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Oh shit!
We are getting an update!
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:o :o :o :o :o :P :P :P :P
Corinthians 11:30 (New International Version, ©2010)
If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness.
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I can hardly wait!
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Oh shit!
We are getting an update!
.... or we're being directed to re-read the previous ones!
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Well.... an update or a post. We had the redirect to all of TS's posts on Sep 8th or 9th and then got a new post the next day.
TS said most likely update #7 won't happen before BAMsday... so either #1 BAMsday is gonna happen in the next 24 hours, #2 tomorrow TS will have a new POST, or #3 there was a change in plans and update #7 will happen before BAMsday. I vote for #2. :D
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ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT!
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Well.... an update or a post. We had the redirect to all of TS's posts on Sep 8th or 9th and then got a new post the next day.
TS said most likely update #7 won't happen before BAMsday... so either #1 BAMsday is gonna happen in the next 24 hours, #2 tomorrow TS will have a new POST, or #3 there was a change in plans and update #7 will happen before BAMsday. I vote for #2. :D
Yep Yep....I think #2 as well.... a new post from TS :)
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LETS ALL JOIN THE "YEP YEP" CLUB......HA HA ..........XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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I go for a new post as well. I am afraid TS felt the need to explain himself after the accusations thrown at him. And maybe it was planned all along and we will have a new piece of the puzzle.
My bet is he will post it today at 11:30 am or pm California time.
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YEP YEP XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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OH, I fell a little bit nervous now :shock:
Thank you, TS！
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I hope its a new post and not telling us to reread!
I think Ive done one time too many!
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I go for a new post as well. I am afraid TS felt the need to explain himself after the accusations thrown at him. And maybe it was planned all along and we will have a new piece of the puzzle.
My bet is he will post it today at 11:30 am or pm California time.
Totally agreeing with you Souza!
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I go for a new post as well. I am afraid TS felt the need to explain himself after the accusations thrown at him. And maybe it was planned all along and we will have a new piece of the puzzle.
My bet is he will post it today at 11:30 am or pm California time.
Totally agreeing with you Souza!
I agree with you as well.
The past week or more I have been reading what has been discussed regarding TS/TIAI but I have not been commenting on any of it. I made a conscious decision to keep my thoughts to myself.
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Connecting the Dots.....
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or maybe it is just a suggestion to do a little homework review.
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I'm also hoping that there's a new update today! But in regards to TS feeling the need to explain himself...I hope that's not the motivation for the new update (if there is one). The redirect today points to 23 matches of his posts. Of all the members that have ever posted on this site, I can't think of one that comes close to providing so much relevant info in just 23 posts...let alone those who have over 1000 posts. Yet, he is the one constantly criticized. I've been catching up on reading posts lately (life has become hectic for me!)...and it really is disheartening to read the accusations against TS sprouting up yet again. However, I'm sure TS knows that those criticizing him are in the minority and something tells me he's pretty thick-skinned ;)
So, yes TS...we are hoping for another update but there's no need to explain yourself to anyone. Your explanation is clearly stated in today's redirect for those willing to take the time to read it.
With L.O.V.E. always.
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You know, I think I will review these updates again, I shouldn't be too busy at work today so I will do some reading. The last time there was a re-direct to TS's posts an update followed. I hope that's the case this time as well, I would be very interested to see what TS has to say at this stage of the hoax.
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I must be seeing things differently...been known to happen :lol:
This re-direct is a query to a search, the heading is:
Search found 23 matches
OK, so I look at this like there is a common element throughout all these posts....something that was searched for: a word, a number, a phrase etc.
What would that be? There seems to be many, however, there must be something in common within each post to render the search results.
Anyone following this......or did I just fall off the cliff of reason? The coffee is calling.....
Peace, Love & Blessings
PS> Perhaps it's something within the headlines?
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I'm also hoping that there's a new update today! But in regards to TS feeling the need to explain himself...I hope that's not the motivation for the new update (if there is one). The redirect today points to 23 matches of his posts. Of all the members that have ever posted on this site, I can't think of one that comes close to providing so much relevant info in just 23 posts...let alone those who have over 1000 posts. Yet, he is the one constantly criticized. I've been catching up on reading posts lately (life has become hectic for me!)...and it really is disheartening to read the accusations against TS sprouting up yet again. However, I'm sure TS knows that those criticizing him are in the minority and something tells me he's pretty thick-skinned ;)
So, yes TS...we are hoping for another update but there's no need to explain yourself to anyone. Your explanation is clearly stated in today's redirect for those willing to take the time to read it.
With L.O.V.E. always.
"He" said he had rhinosorus skin! I don't think he's going to rush any more because people pressure him. But I'm going to think "yep, yep" all my long day...
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I go for a new post as well. I am afraid TS felt the need to explain himself after the accusations thrown at him. And maybe it was planned all along and we will have a new piece of the puzzle.
My bet is he will post it today at 11:30 am or pm California time.
Totally agreeing with you Souza!
okay. that's 2:30p my time. cancelling my 2:30 appt. yep, yep. :)
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I must be seeing things differently...been known to happen :lol:
This re-direct is a query to a search, the heading is:
Search found 23 matches
OK, so I look at this like there is a common element throughout all these posts....something that was searched for: a word, a number, a phrase etc.
What would that be? There seems to be many, however, there must be something in common within each post to render the search results.
Anyone following this......or did I just fall off the cliff of reason? The coffee is calling.....
Peace, Love & Blessings
PS> Perhaps it's something within the headlines?
This does make sense too, wishingstar. Good analysis. We should consider this too.
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I go for a new post as well. I am afraid TS felt the need to explain himself after the accusations thrown at him. And maybe it was planned all along and we will have a new piece of the puzzle.
My bet is he will post it today at 11:30 am or pm California time.
Absolutely right Souza 8-)
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TS = Too Soon?
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Oh shit!
We are getting an update!
.... or we're being directed to re-read the previous ones!
That was my initial thought. People have been trying to discredit TS without providing any proof. Soooo READ...re-read... and if you don't understand..KEEP READING and digesting in the information instead of blaming TS for your own lack of patience with yourself. Not all of us naturally have the mental capacity to absorb all the information at once, or not all of us are USED TO utilizing that mental capacity, we've been dumbed down big time by society - the media especially. But if this hoax has taught me anything, it is that I am smarter than I thought and my own mind knows no limits but the ones I put on it myself.
But of course maybe there will be a new update. I sure hope so! I don't think it's necessary (for me) for TS to explain anything right now. But I will welcome it for sure. Maybe Souza is right and it's been planned all along.... I'll just keep watchin! ;)
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I will be very aware of this update, as I can, today is a very difficult day for me, I'm at work and the situation in the country is not very good due to heavy rains.
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First thought it was that he wants us to read it again.
But I wouldn't complain if we get a new post.
Maybe the BAM takes longer to happen than TS expected.....and he just can't stay away from us THAT long :D
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I must be seeing things differently...been known to happen :lol:
This re-direct is a query to a search, the heading is:
Search found 23 matches
OK, so I look at this like there is a common element throughout all these posts....something that was searched for: a word, a number, a phrase etc.
What would that be? There seems to be many, however, there must be something in common within each post to render the search results.
Anyone following this......or did I just fall off the cliff of reason? The coffee is calling.....
Peace, Love & Blessings
PS> Perhaps it's something within the headlines?
This does make sense too, wishingstar. Good analysis. We should consider this too.
Thank you SOL ;)
I just was looking around and found the gematria to the number 23 interesting:
http://www.gematrix.org/?word=23 (http://www.gematrix.org/?word=23)
the matches sort of speak for themselves.........
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First thought it was that he wants us to read it again.
But I wouldn't complain if we get a new post.
DITTO!!!
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I go for a new post as well. I am afraid TS felt the need to explain himself after the accusations thrown at him. And maybe it was planned all along and we will have a new piece of the puzzle.
My bet is he will post it today at 11:30 am or pm California time.
Totally agreeing with you Souza!
I agree with you as well.
The past week or more I have been reading what has been discussed regarding TS/TIAI but I have not been commenting on any of it. I made a conscious decision to keep my thoughts to myself.
And +1
I also expect a post from TS later - Not to explain himself ('Cos the "accusations" had no ground to rest on) but because it was planned all along... It is interesting that if this is indeed the case, it will be TS 24th post (888)... It may be a Thriller of a post!
Let's see... ;)
With L.O.V.E
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I hope it is along these lines...............
[youtube:3ku2m057]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9TnDv6MpLg&hd[/youtube:3ku2m057]
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I must be seeing things differently...been known to happen :lol:
This re-direct is a query to a search, the heading is:
Search found 23 matches
OK, so I look at this like there is a common element throughout all these posts....something that was searched for: a word, a number, a phrase etc.
What would that be? There seems to be many, however, there must be something in common within each post to render the search results.
Anyone following this......or did I just fall off the cliff of reason? The coffee is calling.....
Peace, Love & Blessings
PS> Perhaps it's something within the headlines?
wishingstar, yes I'm following you're thoughts about the search - no need to cliff dive - it is mysterious. How was it done? If you click on TS you see 'Last visited: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:30 pm'. So who did the search? Was it TS from outside the forum?
Also with 11/30, 11=2 and 30=3.
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I hope it is along these lines...............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9TnDv6MpLg&hd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9TnDv6MpLg&hd)
... that would be awesome to have a stylish BACK post (grin).
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It's not a search using a key word, it's the page that comes up when you click "find all posts by xxxx". Try it on any random member. Click their name and it takes you to their profile page. Then click "find all posts". The page that comes up listing all posts by that user says at the top "Search results in xxx matches", xxx being the username's number of posts.
No mystery. TS post coming soon...
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This redirect is all the posts that TS is involved with.
What am i missing?
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This redirect is all the posts that TS is involved with.
What am i missing?
It generally means that TS will post.
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Oh, thanks hun.
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MICHAEL JACKSON
MOONWALK
Chapter One
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I've always wanted to be able to tell stories, you know, stories that came from my soul. I'd like to sit by a fire and tell people stories - make them see pictures, make them cry and laugh, take them anywhere emotionally with something as deceptively simple as words. I'd like to tell tales to move their souls and transform them. I've always wanted to be able to do that. Imagine how the great writers must feel, knowing they have that power. I sometimes feel I could do it. It's something I'd like to develop. In a way, songwriting uses the same skills, creates the emotional highs and lows, but the story is a sketch. It's quicksilver. There are very few books written on the art of storytelling, how to grip listeners, how to get a group of people together and amuse them. No costumes, no makeup, no nothing, just you and your voice, and your powerful ability to take them anywhere, to transform their lives, if only for minutes.
Bravo!
I am not opposed to a great story especially one as thrilling as this. I am not opposed to a lie created with a purpose of teaching valuable lessons. I have indeed enjoyed this story with all it's ups and downs. I have cried, laughed, and plain got pissed at a few things but, I will never regret any of it. This has been the greatest adventure of my life.
I am a true crime junkie. This story has had elements of that, it has had elements of make believe, it has elements of real people's lifes (believers and non-believers) mingled into Michael's History he is creating every day. If there is not enough books written on the art of story telling, there should be enough material here for that to happen.
I am not against TS/Michael but, there does come a time when people should be informed of deception even from the man himself. In TS' updates he is blunt about the fact that some of the things he said maybe misleading. It is all in how you interpret his words in which you will see he never hid that fact. I have expressed my opinions on this subject in a very subtle way. There are things I know from experience that would make anyones blood curdle. There are times when the illusion needs to be shattered before someone becomes so involved in the fantasy or make believe it causes more harm than was intended.
I do not believe it is or ever was TS' intention to do harm by words. I believe there was a reason for all of it and that was to teach. Everyone will walk away with valuable lessons and that is the reason I don't have a problem with the deception part of this. The ends justify the means.
I became more vocal about the manipulation part of this "hoax" because I see things differently than most. Maybe that is because of the lifestyle I have lived and continue to live. I am a liar by trade. Everything I have done in my professional life has been based on illusion. False feelings and false reality. There are lines I have crossed in my past that I now have to wonder who was more wrong the person who asked me to fulfill a fantasy or me, the one who helped to create the lie and took money for it.
We all lie in our lives whether you realize it or not. Every time you tell someone they look great and underneath you say "I would never wear that outfit" you have lied. I think most people understand what a little white lie is? I have eyes that see the hustle of the game because I have been there before. I have been hustled and I have been the hustler. The problem becomes a problem when people don't know how to step out of the make believe world and go back to reality.
Escapism is not a bad thing when you know the difference.
My main point in being as vocal as I am recently in speaking about the manipulation is simply because if a person is aware of the manipulation then they can make a conscious and informed decision if they chose to continue on this adventure. It isn't my intentions to have people turn against or disbelieve anything TS/Michael says. Besides that TS and I both know alot of words don't sink in and within a matter of minutes someone will be right back in the illusion.
I have said alot of things on this forum and I have been very blunt in some of the things I have said. There is a reason for that. I am hoping some of the knowledge I learned in my lifetime will in some way help someone to see the game for what it is.
There is book knowledge, there is experience knowledge, and there is street knowledge. I am only exposing my street knowledge for education purposes only, not to draw any attention to myself for noteriety. The biggest hustlers and pimps are the NWO and satan with his lie.
If I am telling you straight up I am a liar that doesn't mean I lie all the time. Everything I have wrote on this board is the truth about me. The best whistleblowers are the ones who know the dirty little secrets. ;)
I am a firm believer in reviewing things more than once. I re-read or re-watch things all the time because there are many details I overlook the first time around. Reviewing is necessary for the info to become like second nature like breathing. Repitition sets info into your subconsious mind. I am thinking this is why TS would redirect to his posts. Practice makes perfect or very close to it, lol
I also wouldn't rule out a new update but, I wouldn't be crushed if it didn't happen.
Peace
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I don't know if this is necessarily related to today's re-direct (November 30) but I've been slowly going through all of TS's posts and found this interesting. It was November 30 last year that the official release date for the This Is It DVD was made. So an announcement for TII on the Thriller anniversary.
It's in: TIAI Revealed, Part 6: “This Is It” Movie Rating (R20-R28)
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1929&p=27570#p27570 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1929&p=27570#p27570)
Edit: adding more:
R20. 2 to 3 Hours of Additional Footage on “THIS IS IT” DVD/Blu-ray
{http://www.collider.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-director-kenny-ortega-says-expect-2-to-3-hours-of-additional-footage-on-this-is-it-dvdblu-ray/}
This was a video clip of an interview with Kenny Ortega, about the fact that the DVD and Blu-ray versions of “This Is It” would have 2 or 3 hours of additional footage. Please notice that this redirect was on November 22, which was a week before the official release date (and specific content) was made public. That did not happen until November 30 {http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/michael-jacksons-it-dvd-and-blu-ray-release-date-announced}.
Once the DVD release date was made public, the website gave the specifics of what would be included in the additional footage {http://www.thisisitmovieondvd.com/, then click “Special Features” at the top}.
Notice that the first thing on the list is “Staging the Return”; of course this is intended to come across as the plan for MJ to return to the stage last summer, at the 02 arena in London. But could it have a double meaning??
Notice also that the extras on the Blu-ray are “Smooth Criminal” (which Revealed the hoax death), and even “Making Smooth Criminal”; additionally, there will be extra on “Thriller”—the clip with the MJ “Resurrection”. So once again, “This Is It” movie has MJ “Resurrection”, MJ “Return”, and MJ hoax “Revealed”! Shouldn’t this qualify for an “R” rating ?!?
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Thanks for your post Im_convinced... I am too very conscious about the fact that we can be hoaxed as well lol (hoax within a hoax within a hoax ;) ) I have already prepared myself mentally.
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THE END OF THE [s:3j4hfcdp]WORLD[/s:3j4hfcdp], HOAX IS COOOOMIIIIIING
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Telling stories....yes.... I can see him doing it ......
Nobody told me stories ever before .....
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THE END OF THE [s:25y2ik93]WORLD[/s:25y2ik93], HOAX IS COOOOMIIIIIING
Yes it is....and I find myself not wanting it to end :(
Because he will not be with us anymore after that.... he will not tell us stories anymore...
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THE END OF THE [s:2y1k9eh0]WORLD[/s:2y1k9eh0], HOAX IS COOOOMIIIIIING
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Watching and waiting.
L.O.V.E.
8-) :D
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Telling stories....yes.... I can see him doing it ......
Nobody told me stories ever before .....
Define "Him", TS? Michael? Harvey from TMZ?
I must confess that I have been very entertained and have learn a lot o the way and also met very nice people :)
Once the hoax ends, must be with a MJ BAM, like this (http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-543.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net) (http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-559.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net) (http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Avatar/FireworksSmileyWaves.gif) (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk143/faeini1/1sm180congrat.gif)
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THE END OF THE [s:9yr1cv09]WORLD[/s:9yr1cv09], HOAX IS COOOOMIIIIIING
:lol: :lol: :lol:
That subject puts you in a good mood :lol:
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THE END OF THE [s:2livoqlb]WORLD[/s:2livoqlb], HOAX IS COOOOMIIIIIING
:lol: :lol: :lol:
That subject puts you in a good mood :lol:
LOL Gema! I must be crazy :lol:
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[Once the hoax ends, must be with a MJ BAM, like this (http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-543.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net) (http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-559.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net) (http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Avatar/FireworksSmileyWaves.gif) (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk143/faeini1/1sm180congrat.gif)
I love it!
:lol:
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THE END OF THE [s:1ur2243g]WORLD[/s:1ur2243g], HOAX IS COOOOMIIIIIING
:lol: :lol: :lol:
That subject puts you in a good mood :lol:
LOL Gema! I must be crazy :lol:
Before the hoax, if people called me crazy I could get upset, after the hoax I get upset if they call me sane :lol: :lol:
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I'm surprised to see no one mentioned the connection between the 11:30 clock redirect and the leaked snippet of "Much Too Soon" today, 11/30...
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Is there a new update cominggggg ? :D :D :D :D
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True! That TMZ article!
But, that song has been in youtube since one week ago. I just saw videos dated last week.
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I'm surprised to see no one mentioned the connection between the 11:30 clock redirect and the leaked snippet of "Much Too Soon" today, 11/30...
Thanks, Mo. Kind of forgot about that. Even though we already heard a snippet a week or two ago (my days are running together). I still have a feeling we might get something more today. Who knows. But I've been listening to that song all day, trying to analyze the lyrics. It's a beautiful song, but it's very vague and open for interpretation. I'm wondering if the title is important. "Much Too Soon"... is it still much too soon for the BAM?
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Telling stories....yes.... I can see him doing it ......
Nobody told me stories ever before .....
Define "Him", TS? Michael? Harvey from TMZ?
I must confess that I have been very entertained and have learn a lot o the way and also met very nice people :)
Once the hoax ends, must be with a MJ BAM, like this (http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-543.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net) (http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-559.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net) (http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Avatar/FireworksSmileyWaves.gif) (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk143/faeini1/1sm180congrat.gif)
There's only one HIM Gema .......
Great BAM you pictured there, but when it ends what's left? Back to our old lives again?
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Back to old life?
No way to go back 8-) moving forward, as usual :geek:
Life goes on and with a pocket full of experiences! :D
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I think the clock pointed to a post from TS today rather than to Much too soon song.
We'll see.
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Back to old life?
No way to go back 8-) moving forward, as usual :geek:
Life goes on and with a pocket full of experiences! :D
Life will be boring without this great adventure ......
Will he dissapear again in some corner of the world, asking for privacy?
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I think the clock pointed to a post from TS today rather than to Much too soon song.
We'll see.
That's my gut feeling as well. Still waiting to see... the day has only just begun :D
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I think the clock pointed to a post from TS today rather than to Much too soon song.
We'll see.
That's my gut feeling as well. Still waiting to see... the day has only just begun :D
Just begun for the lucky ones....here is almost midnight and I will miss the rest of it for sure :evil:
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I think the clock pointed to a post from TS today rather than to Much too soon song.
We'll see.
That's my gut feeling as well. Still waiting to see... the day has only just begun :D
Just begun for the lucky ones....here is almost midnight and I will miss the rest of it for sure :evil:
Aww :( Well, we will all be here waiting for you in the morning! Get some rest :)
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thank you jaci, you are too kind :D
See you all in the morning
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I'm surprised to see no one mentioned the connection between the 11:30 clock redirect and the leaked snippet of "Much Too Soon" today, 11/30...
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You very well could be right.....................the clock could indicate 11/30 and the connection to the leak of "Much Too Soon". If that is the case.....I think we have our message!!!!
Holding on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Could be
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I hope it is along these lines...............
[youtube:1drbdhzk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9TnDv6MpLg&hd[/youtube:1drbdhzk]
Many thanks to the sweetheart who embedded the video within the post for me (as I do not know how to do so). ;)
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I hope it is along these lines...............
[youtube:1fq4es3l]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9TnDv6MpLg&hd[/youtube:1fq4es3l]
Many thanks to the sweetheart who embedded the video within the post for me (as I do not know how to do so). ;)
I did ;)
Just select the whole linke and click YouTube when you are composing your message.
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I don't know if this is necessarily related to today's re-direct (November 30) but I've been slowly going through all of TS's posts and found this interesting. It was November 30 last year that the official release date for the This Is It DVD was made. So an announcement for TII on the Thriller anniversary.
It's in: TIAI Revealed, Part 6: “This Is It” Movie Rating (R20-R28)
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1929&p=27570#p27570 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1929&p=27570#p27570)
Edit: adding more:
R20. 2 to 3 Hours of Additional Footage on “THIS IS IT” DVD/Blu-ray
{http://www.collider.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-director-kenny-ortega-says-expect-2-to-3-hours-of-additional-footage-on-this-is-it-dvdblu-ray/}
This was a video clip of an interview with Kenny Ortega, about the fact that the DVD and Blu-ray versions of “This Is It” would have 2 or 3 hours of additional footage. Please notice that this redirect was on November 22, which was a week before the official release date (and specific content) was made public. That did not happen until November 30 {http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/michael-jacksons-it-dvd-and-blu-ray-release-date-announced}.
Once the DVD release date was made public, the website gave the specifics of what would be included in the additional footage {http://www.thisisitmovieondvd.com/, then click “Special Features” at the top}.
Notice that the first thing on the list is “Staging the Return”; of course this is intended to come across as the plan for MJ to return to the stage last summer, at the 02 arena in London. But could it have a double meaning??
Notice also that the extras on the Blu-ray are “Smooth Criminal” (which Revealed the hoax death), and even “Making Smooth Criminal”; additionally, there will be extra on “Thriller”—the clip with the MJ “Resurrection”. So once again, “This Is It” movie has MJ “Resurrection”, MJ “Return”, and MJ hoax “Revealed”! Shouldn’t this qualify for an “R” rating ?!?
Thank you Andrea, this is interesting indeed:
In the redirect from 11/22/2009 and in Update 6 TS gives the link to http://www.collider.com/2009/10/31/excl ... vdblu-ray/ (http://www.collider.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-director-kenny-ortega-says-expect-2-to-3-hours-of-additional-footage-on-this-is-it-dvdblu-ray/) in which KO announces the DVD/BlueRay release, and in the included interview KO is indeed speaking of "about 2 to 3 hours of additional footage that goes in deeper into the sort of whole development idea of the plan" see video below from 2:30
[youtube:240tcscd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnDsANPhLhw[/youtube:240tcscd]
But instead of 2 to 3 hours of additional footage there is "only" 1:43:36 additional footage on the Blue Ray (description here http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2800/mi ... sisit.html (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2800/michaeljacksonthisisit.html)). On the official site there is also only being mentioned an amount of "more of 1-1/2 hours of additional footage on the Blue-Ray" http://www.thisisitmovieondvd.com/ (http://www.thisisitmovieondvd.com/), not 2 to 3 hours like Kenny said in the interview.
So is it possible that Kenny didn't know the exact length of the additional footage one month before it was officially pronounced? I think that's highly unlikely....
And now, 1 year after the official announcement of the DVD/BlueRay-release (same date as Thriller release date), we have listed exactly 23 (2to3) posts by TS.
Is this a coincidence or may http://www.thisisalsoit.com (http://www.thisisalsoit.com) be meant to be this additional footage KO is speaking of, The Sequel of This is it? And today, exactly on 11/30, one year later, TS is pointing that out by showing us the total number of his posts?
I feel it's thriller night tonight...
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I don't know if this is necessarily related to today's re-direct (November 30) but I've been slowly going through all of TS's posts and found this interesting. It was November 30 last year that the official release date for the This Is It DVD was made. So an announcement for TII on the Thriller anniversary.
It's in: TIAI Revealed, Part 6: “This Is It” Movie Rating (R20-R28)
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1929&p=27570#p27570 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1929&p=27570#p27570)
Edit: adding more:
R20. 2 to 3 Hours of Additional Footage on “THIS IS IT” DVD/Blu-ray
{http://www.collider.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-director-kenny-ortega-says-expect-2-to-3-hours-of-additional-footage-on-this-is-it-dvdblu-ray/}
This was a video clip of an interview with Kenny Ortega, about the fact that the DVD and Blu-ray versions of “This Is It” would have 2 or 3 hours of additional footage. Please notice that this redirect was on November 22, which was a week before the official release date (and specific content) was made public. That did not happen until November 30 {http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/michael-jacksons-it-dvd-and-blu-ray-release-date-announced}.
Once the DVD release date was made public, the website gave the specifics of what would be included in the additional footage {http://www.thisisitmovieondvd.com/, then click “Special Features” at the top}.
Notice that the first thing on the list is “Staging the Return”; of course this is intended to come across as the plan for MJ to return to the stage last summer, at the 02 arena in London. But could it have a double meaning??
Notice also that the extras on the Blu-ray are “Smooth Criminal” (which Revealed the hoax death), and even “Making Smooth Criminal”; additionally, there will be extra on “Thriller”—the clip with the MJ “Resurrection”. So once again, “This Is It” movie has MJ “Resurrection”, MJ “Return”, and MJ hoax “Revealed”! Shouldn’t this qualify for an “R” rating ?!?
Thank you Andrea, this is interesting indeed:
In the redirect from 11/22/2009 and in Update 6 TS gives the link to http://www.collider.com/2009/10/31/excl ... vdblu-ray/ (http://www.collider.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-director-kenny-ortega-says-expect-2-to-3-hours-of-additional-footage-on-this-is-it-dvdblu-ray/) in which KO announces the DVD/BlueRay release, and in the included interview KO is indeed speaking of "about 2 to 3 hours of additional footage that goes in deeper into the sort of whole development idea of the plan" see video below from 2:30
[youtube:1y47yfhb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnDsANPhLhw[/youtube:1y47yfhb]
But instead of 2 to 3 hours of additional footage there is "only" 1:43:36 additional footage on the Blue Ray (description here http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2800/mi ... sisit.html (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2800/michaeljacksonthisisit.html)). On the official site there is also only being mentioned an amount of "more of 1-1/2 hours of additional footage on the Blue-Ray" http://www.thisisitmovieondvd.com/ (http://www.thisisitmovieondvd.com/), not 2 to 3 hours like Kenny said in the interview.
So is it possible that Kenny didn't know the exact length of the additional footage one month before it was officially pronounced? I think that's highly unlikely....
And now, 1 year after the official announcement of the DVD/BlueRay-release (same date as Thriller release date), we have listed exactly 23 (2to3) posts by TS.
Is this a coincidence or may http://www.thisisalsoit.com (http://www.thisisalsoit.com) be meant to be this additional footage KO is speaking of, The Sequel of This is it? And today, exactly on 11/30, one year later, TS is pointing that out by showing us the total number of his posts?
I feel it's thriller night tonight...
Interesting thought, but I still don't think it's Thriller night tonight.
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I'm glad TS re-directed to all his posts again. I had read them all a couple times before but I managed to get through all of them today (taking breaks of course) and I highly recommend it to those who may need a refresher.
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I'm surprised to see no one mentioned the connection between the 11:30 clock redirect and the leaked snippet of "Much Too Soon" today, 11/30...
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You very well could be right.....................the clock could indicate 11/30 and the connection to the leak of "Much Too Soon". If that is the case.....I think we have our message!!!!
Holding on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*sigh* does it make me a bad hoaxie if the message "much too soon" makes me kind of sad?
take your time michael, we'll be here.
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Perhaps the 23 posts was alluding to "the eleventh hour" on the 24 hour clock? It would fit in with the clock showing 11.30. One way or another we are getting closer to something being revealed. Could the hoax run for 24 months or something like that?? That's what makes this so intriguing and occasionally frustrating .... we just DON'T KNOW what is coming around the next bend ;)
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MICHAEL JACKSON
MOONWALK
Chapter One
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I've always wanted to be able to tell stories, you know, stories that came from my soul. I'd like to sit by a fire and tell people stories - make them see pictures, make them cry and laugh, take them anywhere emotionally with something as deceptively simple as words. I'd like to tell tales to move their souls and transform them. I've always wanted to be able to do that. Imagine how the great writers must feel, knowing they have that power. I sometimes feel I could do it. It's something I'd like to develop. In a way, songwriting uses the same skills, creates the emotional highs and lows, but the story is a sketch. It's quicksilver. There are very few books written on the art of storytelling, how to grip listeners, how to get a group of people together and amuse them. No costumes, no makeup, no nothing, just you and your voice, and your powerful ability to take them anywhere, to transform their lives, if only for minutes.
Bravo!
I am not opposed to a great story especially one as thrilling as this. I am not opposed to a lie created with a purpose of teaching valuable lessons. I have indeed enjoyed this story with all it's ups and downs. I have cried, laughed, and plain got pissed at a few things but, I will never regret any of it. This has been the greatest adventure of my life.
I am a true crime junkie. This story has had elements of that, it has had elements of make believe, it has elements of real people's lifes (believers and non-believers) mingled into Michael's History he is creating every day. If there is not enough books written on the art of story telling, there should be enough material here for that to happen.
I am not against TS/Michael but, there does come a time when people should be informed of deception even from the man himself. In TS' updates he is blunt about the fact that some of the things he said maybe misleading. It is all in how you interpret his words in which you will see he never hid that fact. I have expressed my opinions on this subject in a very subtle way. There are things I know from experience that would make anyones blood curdle. There are times when the illusion needs to be shattered before someone becomes so involved in the fantasy or make believe it causes more harm than was intended.
I do not believe it is or ever was TS' intention to do harm by words. I believe there was a reason for all of it and that was to teach. Everyone will walk away with valuable lessons and that is the reason I don't have a problem with the deception part of this. The ends justify the means.
I became more vocal about the manipulation part of this "hoax" because I see things differently than most. Maybe that is because of the lifestyle I have lived and continue to live. I am a liar by trade. Everything I have done in my professional life has been based on illusion. False feelings and false reality. There are lines I have crossed in my past that I now have to wonder who was more wrong the person who asked me to fulfill a fantasy or me, the one who helped to create the lie and took money for it.
We all lie in our lives whether you realize it or not. Every time you tell someone they look great and underneath you say "I would never wear that outfit" you have lied. I think most people understand what a little white lie is? I have eyes that see the hustle of the game because I have been there before. I have been hustled and I have been the hustler. The problem becomes a problem when people don't know how to step out of the make believe world and go back to reality.
Escapism is not a bad thing when you know the difference.
My main point in being as vocal as I am recently in speaking about the manipulation is simply because if a person is aware of the manipulation then they can make a conscious and informed decision if they chose to continue on this adventure. It isn't my intentions to have people turn against or disbelieve anything TS/Michael says. Besides that TS and I both know alot of words don't sink in and within a matter of minutes someone will be right back in the illusion.
I have said alot of things on this forum and I have been very blunt in some of the things I have said. There is a reason for that. I am hoping some of the knowledge I learned in my lifetime will in some way help someone to see the game for what it is.
There is book knowledge, there is experience knowledge, and there is street knowledge. I am only exposing my street knowledge for education purposes only, not to draw any attention to myself for noteriety. The biggest hustlers and pimps are the NWO and satan with his lie.
If I am telling you straight up I am a liar that doesn't mean I lie all the time. Everything I have wrote on this board is the truth about me. The best whistleblowers are the ones who know the dirty little secrets. ;)
I am a firm believer in reviewing things more than once. I re-read or re-watch things all the time because there are many details I overlook the first time around. Reviewing is necessary for the info to become like second nature like breathing. Repitition sets info into your subconsious mind. I am thinking this is why TS would redirect to his posts. Practice makes perfect or very close to it, lol
I also wouldn't rule out a new update but, I wouldn't be crushed if it didn't happen.
Peace
What an amazing post this is. Thank you so much for posting this. I LOVED reading it. :)
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MICHAEL JACKSON
MOONWALK
Chapter One
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I've always wanted to be able to tell stories, you know, stories that came from my soul. I'd like to sit by a fire and tell people stories - make them see pictures, make them cry and laugh, take them anywhere emotionally with something as deceptively simple as words. I'd like to tell tales to move their souls and transform them. I've always wanted to be able to do that. Imagine how the great writers must feel, knowing they have that power. I sometimes feel I could do it. It's something I'd like to develop. In a way, songwriting uses the same skills, creates the emotional highs and lows, but the story is a sketch. It's quicksilver. There are very few books written on the art of storytelling, how to grip listeners, how to get a group of people together and amuse them. No costumes, no makeup, no nothing, just you and your voice, and your powerful ability to take them anywhere, to transform their lives, if only for minutes.
Bravo!
I am not opposed to a great story especially one as thrilling as this. I am not opposed to a lie created with a purpose of teaching valuable lessons. I have indeed enjoyed this story with all it's ups and downs. I have cried, laughed, and plain got pissed at a few things but, I will never regret any of it. This has been the greatest adventure of my life.
I am a true crime junkie. This story has had elements of that, it has had elements of make believe, it has elements of real people's lifes (believers and non-believers) mingled into Michael's History he is creating every day. If there is not enough books written on the art of story telling, there should be enough material here for that to happen.
I am not against TS/Michael but, there does come a time when people should be informed of deception even from the man himself. In TS' updates he is blunt about the fact that some of the things he said maybe misleading. It is all in how you interpret his words in which you will see he never hid that fact. I have expressed my opinions on this subject in a very subtle way. There are things I know from experience that would make anyones blood curdle. There are times when the illusion needs to be shattered before someone becomes so involved in the fantasy or make believe it causes more harm than was intended.
I do not believe it is or ever was TS' intention to do harm by words. I believe there was a reason for all of it and that was to teach. Everyone will walk away with valuable lessons and that is the reason I don't have a problem with the deception part of this. The ends justify the means.
I became more vocal about the manipulation part of this "hoax" because I see things differently than most. Maybe that is because of the lifestyle I have lived and continue to live. I am a liar by trade. Everything I have done in my professional life has been based on illusion. False feelings and false reality. There are lines I have crossed in my past that I now have to wonder who was more wrong the person who asked me to fulfill a fantasy or me, the one who helped to create the lie and took money for it.
We all lie in our lives whether you realize it or not. Every time you tell someone they look great and underneath you say "I would never wear that outfit" you have lied. I think most people understand what a little white lie is? I have eyes that see the hustle of the game because I have been there before. I have been hustled and I have been the hustler. The problem becomes a problem when people don't know how to step out of the make believe world and go back to reality.
Escapism is not a bad thing when you know the difference.
My main point in being as vocal as I am recently in speaking about the manipulation is simply because if a person is aware of the manipulation then they can make a conscious and informed decision if they chose to continue on this adventure. It isn't my intentions to have people turn against or disbelieve anything TS/Michael says. Besides that TS and I both know alot of words don't sink in and within a matter of minutes someone will be right back in the illusion.
I have said alot of things on this forum and I have been very blunt in some of the things I have said. There is a reason for that. I am hoping some of the knowledge I learned in my lifetime will in some way help someone to see the game for what it is.
There is book knowledge, there is experience knowledge, and there is street knowledge. I am only exposing my street knowledge for education purposes only, not to draw any attention to myself for noteriety. The biggest hustlers and pimps are the NWO and satan with his lie.
If I am telling you straight up I am a liar that doesn't mean I lie all the time. Everything I have wrote on this board is the truth about me. The best whistleblowers are the ones who know the dirty little secrets. ;)
I am a firm believer in reviewing things more than once. I re-read or re-watch things all the time because there are many details I overlook the first time around. Reviewing is necessary for the info to become like second nature like breathing. Repitition sets info into your subconsious mind. I am thinking this is why TS would redirect to his posts. Practice makes perfect or very close to it, lol
I also wouldn't rule out a new update but, I wouldn't be crushed if it didn't happen.
Peace
What an amazing post this is. Thank you so much for posting this. I LOVED reading it. :)
Me too. Something I find amazing about this hoax is that it is so HUGE - everybody on the planet is a part of it even if most don't realize it. All of this is on a scale that so eclipses anything I can think of - I mean, MJ is EVERYWHERE. He has a massive influence in our cultures in a way that a lot of people almost don't really notice anymore because that has always been there. "Repetition sets info into your subconscious mind." I must admit that I love KNOWING that I am currently "involved" with the greatest hoax of all time, and all that we will learn as a result of it. Not just believers, but EVERYONE. I love how our forum, this group of "perfect strangers" have come together like this and what unites us is hope. And love. WOW. Waiting for the BAM...but once he returns...
What if, when Michael returns, he calls on his Army of L.O.V.E. What will we do? Like, FOR REAL.
Hey, I just noticed that TIAI re-directed just recently to: viewtopic.php?f=72&t=16112#p273814 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=16112#p273814)
I go for a new post as well. I am afraid TS felt the need to explain himself after the accusations thrown at him. And maybe it was planned all along and we will have a new piece of the puzzle.
My bet is he will post it today at 11:30 am or pm California time.
Souza was right, we're getting a new post/update from TS!
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I go for a new post as well. I am afraid TS felt the need to explain himself after the accusations thrown at him. And maybe it was planned all along and we will have a new piece of the puzzle.
My bet is he will post it today at 11:30 am or pm California time.
Souza was right, we're getting a new post/update from TS!
:D :D :D :D :D :D
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no new post yet....what's LA time now?!
Only 21:20.... I guess we have to wait a little longer
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no new post yet....what's LA time now?!
9:20pm
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if we're getting a new post....
maybe 11:30 tonight?
like the Thriller song.."it's close to midnight..."
i don't know.
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Thank you.... I can't get used with this 10 hours difference.
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we're waiting....and I think we shall receive something.... I just have a feeling we are going to receive something.... TS is revising his words right now..... aren't you TS :lol: ?
Because the post has to be PERFECT :lol: !!
Love you Michael :D
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we're waiting....and I think we shall receive something.... I just have a feeling we are going to receive something.... TS is revising his words right now..... aren't you TS :lol: ?
Because the post has to be PERFECT :lol: !!
Love you Michael :D
:lol: :lol: :lol: :P :P :P :o :o :o :!:
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if we're getting a new post....
maybe 11:30 tonight?
like the Thriller song.."it's close to midnight..."
i don't know.
Exactly what I was thinking! on the anniversary of thriller and close to midnight...
and I guess TS confirmed that with his redirect
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we're waiting....and I think we shall receive something.... I just have a feeling we are going to receive something.... TS is revising his words right now..... aren't you TS :lol: ?
Because the post has to be PERFECT :lol: !!
Love you Michael :D
:lol: :lol: :lol: :P :P :P :o :o :o :!:
We're spoiled aren't we :D ?