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Pardon but why not defib if he has no pulse? This is the most famous man in the world. What good reason could there possibly be to not defib him if he has no pulse and is being sent to ER?
The stories just don't fit. A question (sorry if I overlooked it) but where did they say that it was asystole and not VF? I can't remember that I read that.And if it's true that he had a pulse at hospital (which I doubt because it's hard to get someone back from asystole) he couldn't have VT because it was not higher than 100bpm.
If this is not a hoax, I have no doubt that they were unable to defibrillate him. Not by choice, but because you do not defibrillate asystole. If it is a hoax, then they just didn't slip up in this case.
Lady Medic, please talk about how the endotracheal unit was not sitting properly on the mouth in the ambulance pic, as well as the paramedic was only using one arm to perform, presumably, CPR, as well as the choice to back out of Carrolwood instead of use the round about or turn around, as well as the obviously novice driving skills witnessed in that back out performance, as well as the fact that the paramedics left the ambulance doors wide open upon arrival at ucla as well as the complete lack of IV, cpr or any life saving techniques visible when entering ucla ER.Because from where I'm sitting it looks like you're trying to discourage us because of the topics you chose to address and the ones you chose to omit and that makes me wonder if you're really a hoaxer. And if you are a hoaxer, what makes you believe considering your professional backround?Additionally, should I just take your word for your stated expertise? Not trying to offend, just saying, you could be my next door neighbor who's a tree trimmer by trade spinning me a line of BS for all I know.I hope you answer and take me very seriously and at face value because I am very very genuine in my line of questioning.
Does anyone else have any objective* questions
Quote from: "LadyMedic"Does anyone else have any objective* questions Yeah. For the 500th time. Why are you here.
Quote from: "bec"Quote from: "LadyMedic"Does anyone else have any objective* questions Yeah. For the 500th time. Why are you here.Because I just read a post two days ago that someone stated dispatchers are not allowed to hang up until an ambulance arrives. Finding the truth isn't about believing only what you want and ignoring fact.
They are saying that MJ had been dead for 5-6 hours not 1-2 hours before arriving at Carolwood. So knowing that, does he still look dead, lol. I know that's a stupid question to ask. Please look at these pics. I have asked this question about 4 times and never did get an answer to it. How bout this... Can you look at these pictures and tell me what the differences are? Maybe if you spot the differences that I am referring to, you may be able to say dead or alive.. ESPECIALLY since 5-6 hours had supposedly past. BTW, look it up on youtube Latoya says he died at like 8 that morning according to what the family had been told. These are so small.. Sorry I tried to make them bigger but it distorted them : ( I hope you can see what I cam talking about.Look at the forehead and tell me if you see any differencesLook at the mouth and tell me the differences that you seeThis is the whole face side by side with one pic flipped to get a side by side. Maybe I am wanting to see something that isn't there.. To me, it looks as if he is in discomfort in one of the pictures. Can someone who has been dead for 5 hours moved their facial muscles? I am being very serious cause I know they have gas sometimes and muscle twitches. But I am not sure how long after death the muscles can twitch. After 5-6 hours??? Also, the muscles twitching is different then what I am seeing here. He is pursing his lips together (the best he can with the thing in his mouth) and his forehead looks wrinkled to me like he is in some pain. Thank you so much!!!
Quote from: "LadyMedic"Quote from: "bec"Quote from: "LadyMedic"Does anyone else have any objective* questions Yeah. For the 500th time. Why are you here.Because I just read a post two days ago that someone stated dispatchers are not allowed to hang up until an ambulance arrives. Finding the truth isn't about believing only what you want and ignoring fact.Nice dodge. I mean why are you on the hoax boards at all, but you knew that.
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