Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Understanding His Music & (Short) Films => Michael's Life & Clues He Left Us => Michael => Topic started by: Liberian Girl Heehee on December 10, 2010, 11:00:54 PM
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I received my copy of the MICHAEL cd tonight in the mail. I have to tell you all...it is wonderful. :P :P I heard the leak songs and although hearing them got me intrigued and excited, they are nothing compared to listening to them one after another on the cd, multiple times, is like. And I have to say...it is all Michael, as far as I am concerned. OK, so he is sharing the stage on Breaking News and I know that is highly unusual in and of itself. But, the beat is catchy and the words are as what are described in the booklet, "Michael's life under a microscope....Michael's personal story." I don't know if Michael is behind its production, but it sure feels like it. 8-) 8-)
No wonder the album is #1 in 8 countries. Michael....cool move, great album! :D 8-)
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So you are such a big fan that you enjoy 3 tracks sung by a completely different vocalist?
Breaking news, monster and keep your head up are sung by jason Malachi. Even a deaf, blind and retarded person could tell the difference between Michael's voice and any other persons.
People these days are so thick it boggles the mind.
Whatever floats your boat though.
Pathetic
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So you are such a big fan that you enjoy 3 tracks sung by a completely different vocalist?
Breaking news, monster and keep your head up are sung by jason Malachi. Even a deaf, blind and retarded person could tell the difference between Michael's voice and any other persons.
People these days are so thick it boggles the mind.
Whatever floats your boat though.
Pathetic
Once you can provide proof that it isn't Michael, don't bash other people for their views on the album. The burden of proof lies on you, not anyone else. It also lies on all the people who claim it isn't Michael.
Whatever floats your boat though.
Pathetic
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So you are such a big fan that you enjoy 3 tracks sung by a completely different vocalist?
Breaking news, monster and keep your head up are sung by jason Malachi. Even a deaf, blind and retarded person could tell the difference between Michael's voice and any other persons.
People these days are so thick it boggles the mind.
Whatever floats your boat though.
Pathetic
Hello filmhoax!!!!! :D
DEAF,BLIND,RETARDED,PATHETIC,WOW you are a very angry person!!!! :o :?
What's wrong with you my friend????
If you are angry please calm down and don't insult people here,ok??
Remember that WORDS can do so much harm and kill someone's spirit :cry: .If you really LOVE Micheal please stop this bulling.
WORDS
[youtube:2g0lscfe]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVV4T3cChlk[/youtube:2g0lscfe]
LOVE
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So you are such a big fan that you enjoy 3 tracks sung by a completely different vocalist?
Breaking news, monster and keep your head up are sung by jason Malachi. Even a deaf, blind and retarded person could tell the difference between Michael's voice and any other persons.
People these days are so thick it boggles the mind.
Whatever floats your boat though.
Pathetic
How do you know it is Jason Malachi? just because it was said by some people in facebook or my space? Michael always said "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it's the gospel"
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how did you receive the album before its release date? I have the full album myself but not the physical CD.
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FilmHoax is just venting his/her frustration and I can understand his/her point of view. Just try thinking thing's over and being a lot more constructive next time, you don't need to insult others to get your opinion across to other forum members. This forum preaches Love, not hate. Or atleast, it used to anyhow.
I would never purchase this album because I know full well that it isn't the product that had been promised to the fans of Michael Jackson. They're making financial gain by ripping them off. I AGREE with you on that point.
Hold My Hand - Released 3 or 4 years ago and it barely features Michael Jackson. Not a stong opening to an album like DSTYGE, WBSS, Bad, Jam, Scream, BOTDF and Unbreakable were, either. It doesn't seem a like a song he would start an album with to me, IMO.
Hollywood Tonight - The beginning reminds me of Will You Be There with the orchestra and choir. This is one of the better song's on "Michael" and I do believe it's him, whether he wanted it released? Not sure.
Keep Your Head Up - I hear both Michael Jackson and different singer on this song. It's average at best and a pure album filler because they've been left with nothing better to work with.
(I Like) The Way You Love Me - Released 6 years-ago on the Ultimate Collection. No point in a second release of a song that he clearly deemed too below par to include on a project he cared about.
Monster - Over produced to a grotesque level, nor am I convinced that's him singing. I can also hear lyrical content from other Michael Jackson song's on previous albums.
Best of Joy - This is a dated and below par piece of work. I can't imagine he'd want this released. It's a pure album filler.
Breaking News - Not Michael Jackson. Again, grostesquely over produced. It sound's more like a tribute. Terrible.
(I Can't Make It) Another Day - Ruined by the heavy guitar and over production, lyrical content has again been stolen from other Michael Jackson song's, "We've Had Enough" in particular.
Behind The Mask - This was a apparently a song Mike covered for the Thriller album, but the person/band that originally wrote and produced this song weren't impressed and prevented it's release. I'm not convinced by that explanation, I think he DID create his own version of this song because he enjoyed it so much, he wanted to put his own twist on it, much like "A Place With No Name" but I'd be surprised if he ever intended to be used as an official release on a new album.
Much Too Soon - Exceptionally dated. Though it is beautiful, it doesn't sound finished and "perfect" to me.
That's my two cents.
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I disagree. I've had a chance to listen to the songs and although they may seem overproduced and excessively commercialized to a revolting level, I still think, when taking it with a grain of salt, can be enjoyable. We shouldn't debate whether the album is authenticated or not, frankly. I think Michael, if he is truly behind this, would want us to admire the musical creation even if it isn't him. The artist in me tells me that I shouldn't buy the album, but at the same time, some of the tracks are actually pretty decent. Maybe not accustomed to hearing the Michael we've come to grow with over the years. Michael is sending a message, and I think the fact of the matter is we should just love and admire any work of art. I know it sounds incredibly awful to say this, but even if it isn't Michael, I still enjoy the music. I won't buy it, but I like it!
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Well, I gave in and pre-ordered the album today. I was extremely curious. I'm still second-guessing myself a little. but I already did it and it's too late to turn back. But I think that this album and all of the controversy surrounding it is a message of some kind. The video for "Hold MyHand" and the way it was made makes me believe that he was behind this.
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So you are such a big fan that you enjoy 3 tracks sung by a completely different vocalist?
Breaking news, monster and keep your head up are sung by jason Malachi. Even a deaf, blind and retarded person could tell the difference between Michael's voice and any other persons.
People these days are so thick it boggles the mind.
Whatever floats your boat though.
Pathetic
You're right that it doesn't sound anything like MJ.
Sony can't use fake vocals legally and it's WAY more trouble then it's worth. Frankly, JM sounds more like MJ then BN does.
I says it's a hoax.
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I can see everyone's point of view...
In my opinion, there are 10 tracks - 7 of which are really Michael Jackson. Doesn't that sound like it could really be the case? I mean, if he was going to try and trick us, wouldn't it make sense for him to have SEVEN of the songs really be him? Those 3 songs are clearly either not him, or he is manipulating his voice to sound different on purpose, which is my gut feeling. Because they are clearly different. Still good songs, but a different sounding voice nonetheless. Perhaps those 3 songs are a specific message. Very interesting lyrics and titles...
But I don't think this debate it's reason enough to boycott the album, because the rest of the songs are him for sure. Plus, if we believe Michael Jackson is alive, then we must also believe that he is behind the release of this album, right? If we want to believe that it's all Sony and their evil master plan...then we must also believe that Michael is dead. Because let's face it, even if MJ weren't dead and Sony were behind it, that wouldn't make sense because Michael would find a way to stop it - or at least find a way to warn us in a clear way. I'm just not ready to call Sony the bad guy when I think Michael is still with Sony and/or manipulating Sony in some way...Sony is necessary in this hoax, whether they know they're apart of it or not.
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Sony for sure would not have put this album out knowing about the 3 tracks from Jason, This is bigger than it seems and i think Cascio and Mj maybe behind it.
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Sony for sure would not have put this album out knowing about the 3 tracks from Jason, This is bigger than it seems and i think Cascio and Mj maybe behind it.
I agree with you, @dave859. And to take it one step further, I do not believe that Michael would put out an album that does not have 100% Michael singing on the actual album. Too risky on a lot of fronts. However, we may have been intentionally confused along the way with the leaked "snippets", family reaction, etc. The album's already #1 in 7 countries, and that's with 3 possible "imposter" tracks. Can you imagine the attention that the album will get when it's clear that it's ALL Michael? The Man LOVES controversy!
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Sometimes being so passionate about the Hoax and this whole thing makes us insensitive to others what kind of words are those if you believe filmhoax in the hoax why are you speaking like that? MJ is all about L.O.V.E. and so far the expressions you are using are against what Michael would say to anyone. Think about it if u are a MJ fan think about the love and do not get so carried away over the hoax that you disrespect others it doesn't look right and if Mike is reading it's a shame. I've heard the album I like it Breaking News sounds different rather than think if it really is him let's look at the message we have to read into the songs no matter who it is because it comes from Michael he is trying to communicate it's up to us if we get concentrated oh my it isn't MJ let's focus on dissecting the songs the messages.
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You can listen the album here (legal and free):
http://www.deezer.com/fr/#music/michael ... ael-725669 (http://www.deezer.com/fr/#music/michael-jackson/michael-725669)
It's really great.
I especially appreciate Hold my hand, Keep your head up, Monster, Best of Joy, Another Day and Behind the mask...
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how did you receive the album before its release date? I have the full album myself but not the physical CD.
I also got the real CD. There was a pre-sale at the official Sony store in my country! ;)
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I have listened to Breaking News a billion times. It's not this Jason Malachi guy that I keep hearing about. It's Michael. Quit believing the media's lies and think for yourself. Just because it sounds slightly different doesn't mean it's a different person. You have to listen to more than just the voice itself. I refuse to listen to the album online, I don't believe in that. I'll buy it Tuesday and see for sure, but I think the people who are saying it isn't him are ridiculous.
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I have listened to Breaking News a billion times. It's not this Jason Malachi guy that I keep hearing about. It's Michael. Quit believing the media's lies and think for yourself. Just because it sounds slightly different doesn't mean it's a different person. You have to listen to more than just the voice itself. I refuse to listen to the album online, I don't believe in that. I'll buy it Tuesday and see for sure, but I think the people who are saying it isn't him are ridiculous.
When you have the album in your hands, I invite you to visit the thread I started today. Please, read my points and try to relate to them. I am collecting people's opinions - pros and cons. But please, read my points. :oops:
viewtopic.php?f=120&t=16443&p=279902#p279902 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=16443&p=279902#p279902)
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Hey filmhoax - no need to be discourteous and rude. I am a big fan of Michael and have been ever since I saw him on the Ed Sullivan show when I was 10. I stayed with him, his music, and his dance until the day that he "died" so get off your high horse and start acting more like Michael would want you to then the way you responded to my post.
None of these songs are Jason Malachi, who may try to sound like MJ but his keys are flat and just cannot do it. Sounds more like Justin Timberlake, if you ask me. Here is an example....Please. What the heck is he doing anyway.
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/150573/1627044 (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/150573/1627044)
Some of you may be right in saying Michael wouldn't put this album out if it wasn't perfect. And I agree with you. But remember everyone....Michael is supposed to be DEAD! If he put out a perfect song or album, wouldn't more people than the 87% on TMZ's last poll, who said Michael faked his death, would think that Michael faked his death. Let's be real. This album is about controversy, hipe, is it or isn't it, sounds like, doesn't sound like, and as a result it's the top selling album all over the world. Now that sounds like Michael to me....through and through!
Anyway, I don't know how I got the cd early...it just arrived in the mail along with the t-shirt I pre-ordered. No tracking notice or anything, just BAM on my porch when I came home from work. I love it and although it may not be all Michael singing, it sure is Michael to me. :D :D 8-)
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So you are such a big fan that you enjoy 3 tracks sung by a completely different vocalist?
Breaking news, monster and keep your head up are sung by jason Malachi. Even a deaf, blind and retarded person could tell the difference between Michael's voice and any other persons.
People these days are so thick it boggles the mind.
Whatever floats your boat though.
Pathetic
that was VERY rude. If you can't be respectful then keep your onions to yourself. Seriously, no wonder Michael hasn't came back yet, his OWN FANS aren't spreading love to each other. :roll:
EDIT: of course i did not mean keep your onions to yourself. apparently i misspelled opinions and my web browser thought i was typing onions and corrected me. :lol: oopsie!
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I can see everyone's point of view...
In my opinion, there are 10 tracks - 7 of which are really Michael Jackson. Doesn't that sound like it could really be the case? I mean, if he was going to try and trick us, wouldn't it make sense for him to have SEVEN of the songs really be him? Those 3 songs are clearly either not him, or he is manipulating his voice to sound different on purpose, which is my gut feeling. Because they are clearly different. Still good songs, but a different sounding voice nonetheless. Perhaps those 3 songs are a specific message. Very interesting lyrics and titles...
But I don't think this debate it's reason enough to boycott the album, because the rest of the songs are him for sure. Plus, if we believe Michael Jackson is alive, then we must also believe that he is behind the release of this album, right? If we want to believe that it's all Sony and their evil master plan...then we must also believe that Michael is dead. Because let's face it, even if MJ weren't dead and Sony were behind it, that wouldn't make sense because Michael would find a way to stop it - or at least find a way to warn us in a clear way. I'm just not ready to call Sony the bad guy when I think Michael is still with Sony and/or manipulating Sony in some way...Sony is necessary in this hoax, whether they know they're apart of it or not.
Yes!!
I say you are totally right. Come on. What's wrong with us? There are seven tracks undisputed Michael Jackson on this album. 3 others which are voice altered. Very obviously! I think sometimes were are too skeptical for our own good, I mean, what more do we want? The album to be called "Hoax" instead of "Michael"?
In regards to the Evil $ony theory, no Evil Genius does fakes this bad. As stated, Jason Malachi sounds more like MJ then these songs do, especially Breaking News. Dude. That's unrecognizable as MJ. If Evil $ony wanted to produce fake MJ tracks, why not hire someone who sounds like MJ?
I don't care how crappy the recording or how much its processed, there's no point in altering MJs voice so it doesn't sound like MJ. No point in that at all.
As a perfect example, the song 'I Like The Way You Love Me', preludes with MJ singing over the phone. Really crappy reception too. And it sounds like... MJ. So what's the problem with the Cascio tracks? The phone singing seems to have been given to us as a rough voice sample, right there, on the album!
I say, like you do jaci, that the Cascio tracks are altered on purpose to disguise MJs voice. And there's only one person who would A. think of that and b. have the guts to DO that, and that's an alive and well MJ calling the shots on this hoax album.
Now, as you also said, maybe Sony doesn't know what they are being used to do. Maybe they really did hire these voice experts, and since it really IS MJ, of course they were able to say they're authentic.
So maybe this is what the Cascios are doing to help MJ. They are the entity that sells these tracks to Sony as the "secret MJ tracks" at MJs direction from behind the scenes. Perhaps they are helping participate in this mini hoax within the hoax, otherwise I see little purpose for them. Why parade these people in the media otherwise? Like, what's their hoaxy purpose otherwise if not acting as agent between believed-dead-MJ and Sony? They didn't look super dooper thrilled about being on Oprah, they don't seem like the type to seek attention for fame.
I don't know, my thoughts are still scattered in regards to the Cascio connection, reason for it, and how it fits exactly. Lots of possibilities for this one.
But bottom line, there's no purpose for Sony to alter dead MJs voice to sound like someone else if you don't have super dedicated fan hearing, and no reason for Sony to include questionable tracks on a dead-MJ album, and if all else fails, there's no reason, frankly, not to use a better voice impersonator if it were a grand murder conspiracy.
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I agree with jaci and bec about Michael's vocals being deliberately altered on the Cascio tracks.
These would have been the 3 songs that were recorded in that basement studio, not a professional recording studio. I think Michael wanted these 3 songs to sound different and recorded them that way on purpose. And who better to trust than the Cascio's, who have been friends with him for over 20 years and in all that time never betrayed his trust by going public with their friendship with him. I believe they were on Oprah with his go ahead, that much was obvious to me when I watched the interview and didn't feel for one second that this family actually LOST their close dear friend Michael.
Those 3 Cascio songs were specifically picked by Michael for the album - if Michael was really dead, Sony has a huge catalog of unreleased MJ songs that they could have chosen from, which would be undoubtedly Michael's voice to everyone, no questions asked.
But Michael wants questions asked - nothing gets attention like controversy. And nothing gets the mind activated more than questioning what's real and what's fake.
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This seems interesting and should explain some things...
http://x17online.com/celebrities/michae ... weitzm.php (http://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_jackson/michael_jakcsons_estate_lawyer_howard_weitzm.php)
Not allowed to paste here, but its worth reading the letter Howard Weitzman wrote. Dont know if this letter is legit, though.
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mjthelegendlives wrote: This seems interesting and should explain some things...
http://x17online.com/celebrities/michae (http://x17online.com/celebrities/michae) ... weitzm.php
Thanks for posting this information mjthelegendlives. I did read the letter, and although I do not put all my trust in those lawyer dudes, I do trust the guys that have worked with MJ for 20+ years. If they say that it is MJ, I believe them.
I agree with the earlier post that this could be a wake-up call to all the non-believers. Whatever Michael has in mind, he is a true genius. He has gotten our attention for sure and the buzz is on. I truly think that more people saying don't buy it will cause more people to run out and buy it just because of the controversy of MICHAEL. 8-)
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No matter what other's opinions are, to me MICHAEL is definately Michael. Because of the fact that Michael did write most songs, did the producing, is for me reason enough to buy the album and to support the message of Michael. I love all the songs, they have each their own style, but they have all the same message fame & media are delusive and fake. It strikes me that Hollywood, the world of fame, is used in 2 songs: Hollywood Tonight and in Monster. Hollywood & paparazzi as one in Monster. Behind The Mask is also meaning the fake empty world of fame.
As for the voices, in the intro of the Breaking News lyrics there's written: "He would often disguise his voice as a journalist .." and in the intro of the Monster lyrics: "Michael actually recorded some of his background vocals through a PVC pipe..." I would say he's experimenting with voices... Just my opinion.
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I want that album! I can't wait to buy it. I was looking in the stores yesterday, but the album wasn't there yet. :cry: And I don't wanna have a burned cd!
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This is just my opinion but I firmly believe that Michael was experimenting with the vocals.
INNOVATIVE is what Michael strives for. Why is it so hard to believe that he would try something
new and try to make his vocals sound different?
Trying new sounds, experimenting, and being one step ahead is what Michael is about. I don't
think the world was ready for this. I personally have grown to just accept that there will always
be surprises when it comes to his music... ;)
With that said, the album is FANTASTIC and I really think that YES it IS Michael
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Lovely One wrote: This is just my opinion but I firmly believe that Michael was experimenting with the vocals. INNOVATIVE is what Michael strives for. Why is it so hard to believe that he would try something
new and try to make his vocals sound different?
Nice way to put it Lovely One. I totally agree with you. Michael said there would be suprises and that the best is yet to come. People weren't expecting to hear a different style of vocals so they just pegged it as fake.
It's his death that is fake people, not his new music. 8-)
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Wow. internet gangsters. this is really gettin out of hand with this hoax people are just pointing fingers,,,that dont look like michael...that dont sound like michael..really? All the time everybody hung out with him and knew him personally you didnt notice he can sing different or not wear the same make up or do his hair different? its jason malachi..its robert alexander giles..its ecass...its navi...jeezus! Michael is michael and everybody is used to a certain way michaels songs were but its been almost a decade since a album dropped...what you want it to sound like thriller? welcome to modern pop..these people worked with michael they have more know of michael than some people on the internet that never personally sat with the king.
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I dont have the album yet, I am getting it for X-mas, I'm SO excited to listen to the songs, and I refuse to listen to any of the songs before I have the album! Just because thats me :P haha..
But as soon as I listen I'll come back and give my two cents..
But I think it makes a lot of sense for Michael to sing SEVEN of the tracks, and have the other 3 altered somehow. Seven is his number, maybe its his way of trying to tell us something.
I did listen to breaking news, no way that is Michael's raw voice, if it is him it's altered.
I dont believe the "It's 2010 Michael wanted to try something new with his voice" theory, simply because..Let's look at Michael's music career shall we? It spans over 5 decades, 5 decades in which music drastically changed, including Michael's music. Off the Wall and Invincible have COMPLETELY different sounds but Michael's VOICE is always the same, it's recognizable, unmistakable. Why now, when Mike releases an album from the grave is when his voice sounds different and we have to question it, it's NEVER happened in the past. We've always known 100% that it was Mike, and now everyone, even his family, is questioning these songs...so something's up. He must be doing it on purpose.
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I agree with jaci and bec about Michael's vocals being deliberately altered on the Cascio tracks.
These would have been the 3 songs that were recorded in that basement studio, not a professional recording studio. I think Michael wanted these 3 songs to sound different and recorded them that way on purpose. And who better to trust than the Cascio's, who have been friends with him for over 20 years and in all that time never betrayed his trust by going public with their friendship with him. I believe they were on Oprah with his go ahead, that much was obvious to me when I watched the interview and didn't feel for one second that this family actually LOST their close dear friend Michael.
Those 3 Cascio songs were specifically picked by Michael for the album - if Michael was really dead, Sony has a huge catalog of unreleased MJ songs that they could have chosen from, which would be undoubtedly Michael's voice to everyone, no questions asked.
But Michael wants questions asked - nothing gets attention like controversy. And nothing gets the mind activated more than questioning what's real and what's fake.
I agree with you three. I still say it's all him, deliberately sounding different on 3 tracks, but i still hear enough in all three tracks to make me believe it's him.
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Souza wrote: I still say it's all him, deliberately sounding different on 3 tracks, but i still hear enough in all three tracks to make me believe it's him.
Yes, me too! I have listened to all of MICHAEL about 10x since I got it on Friday. And, Breaking News much more since it was first "leaked". I have to say I hear Michael as one of the leads and also background singers on all three suspect tracks. And, I just had my ears checked, so no one suggest that. :lol:
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Trying new sounds, experimenting, and being one step ahead is what Michael is about.
AND IT SOUNDS GREAT! HeeHee! :mrgreen:
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Hi ,i just bought the album this weekend and i love all the songs ,i had to dance on most of the songs 8-) and i am sure its all michael on this album :D so no fakers , i wish there were more songs on the album ;) its great !!
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Album is already leaked in the Internet, so I am enjoying it too :lol:
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Lovely One wrote: This is just my opinion but I firmly believe that Michael was experimenting with the vocals. INNOVATIVE is what Michael strives for. Why is it so hard to believe that he would try something
new and try to make his vocals sound different?
Nice way to put it Lovely One. I totally agree with you. Michael said there would be suprises and that the best is yet to come. People weren't expecting to hear a different style of vocals so they just pegged it as fake.
It's his death that is fake people, not his new music. 8-)
Thank you to the ones that are using common sense!
I am soon to go see if my CD is in the mailbox, I have been in suspense for ages. I have just listened to one snippet online and cried my heart out.
I have to say that Michael is growing, artists do that! If you want to hear the pre'2000 Michael then you are a closed minded soul. I will take this CD with an open mind, not point fingers or judge. I will just enjoy! I am thankful for what he is giving us.
How can anyone claim it's not him without proof? Show me!
For a fan site I would expect a bit more LOVE and less telling others they are fools.
I think we are all above that, or should be.
I agree 100% "It's his death that is fake people, not his music"
Even in TII I questioned a bit about really Michael but I have learned that the Master has done just what he wanted and if we can't see that then we are not getting the message.
I love you all for staying with this site for so long as I have, for loving Michael unconditionally.
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I just love it when Michael Jackson and Elvis are mentioned in the same article :D :D
http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainm ... moves.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/music/20101214_From_Michael_Jackson_and_Elvis__Two_good_career_moves.html)
From Michael Jackson and Elvis: Two good career moves
"New" albums from Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley offer cheer for the ears and fodder for debate. Also in the spotlight - the very-much-alive female talents Jazmine Sullivan, Beyonce and Imogen Heap.
ACTION JACKSON: While just out today, the Michael Jackson album "Michael" (Epic, B) has already raised protests from the likes of producer/performer Will.I.Am, who declared it "disrespectful" for Jackson's label to release music that the artist didn't finish and approve himself, and which required a bit of vocal tweaking (as acknowledged by project participant Teddy Riley).
Uh, but let's make a few things clear. For starters, Will has an ax to grind. He recorded tracks with Jackson that didn't make the cut for this set, sure to sell like ice cream in July. In the wake of his death on June 25, 2009, MJ albums sold more than 8 million copies last year - by far the most of any artist in the world.
Now on to other concerns. What artist doesn't use Auto-Tune and Pro Tools these days to fix vocals? Or rely on others to flesh out sounds they've heard in their heads? (Check out MJ's answering-machine-recorded demo that opens "(I Like) The Way You Love Me.")
And, come on, shouldn't we finally be over the shock of a record label exploiting a dead star by digging and dressing up discards?
While boasting just 10 tracks, "Michael" covers all the expected bases, from warm, anthemic songs of encouragement such as "Hold My Hand" (recorded with Caribbean-toned Akon) and "Keep Your Head Up," to the strident, self-referential paranoia of "Breaking News," and another sultry tale of a woman corrupted by the glamour profession, "Hollywood Tonight."
Also hitting familiar MJ notes: the guitar-driven funk rocker "(I Can't Make It) Another Day," co-written and performed with Lenny Kravitz; another screeching, B-movie horror sequel, "Monster"; and, as closer, his sadder-but-wiser life-lesson, "Much Too Soon."
Jeez, the guy really was prescient.
So, does it matter that Jackson didn't cut all the backing vocals? Or that 50 Cent recorded his rap for "Monster" without MJ hovering in the control room?
I'd say "no" to both.
It would have been appropriate to give the fans more to chew on, though. HIStorically, this artist overstuffed his sets. "Michael" leaves you waiting for the next morsels (see below) to drop...."
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So you are such a big fan that you enjoy 3 tracks sung by a completely different vocalist?
Breaking news, monster and keep your head up are sung by jason Malachi. Even a deaf, blind and retarded person could tell the difference between Michael's voice and any other persons.
People these days are so thick it boggles the mind.
Whatever floats your boat though.
Pathetic
filmhoax - you never have anything positive to say. I wonder why you are even here except to cause dissention. Please, don't ruin the enjoyment for the rest of us. If you don't like it you can keep your opinions to yourself.
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Lovely One wrote: This is just my opinion but I firmly believe that Michael was experimenting with the vocals. INNOVATIVE is what Michael strives for. Why is it so hard to believe that he would try something
new and try to make his vocals sound different?
Nice way to put it Lovely One. I totally agree with you. Michael said there would be suprises and that the best is yet to come. People weren't expecting to hear a different style of vocals so they just pegged it as fake.
It's his death that is fake people, not his new music. 8-)
Thank you to the ones that are using common sense!
I am soon to go see if my CD is in the mailbox, I have been in suspense for ages. I have just listened to one snippet online and cried my heart out.
I have to say that Michael is growing, artists do that! If you want to hear the pre'2000 Michael then you are a closed minded soul. I will take this CD with an open mind, not point fingers or judge. I will just enjoy! I am thankful for what he is giving us.
How can anyone claim it's not him without proof? Show me!
For a fan site I would expect a bit more LOVE and less telling others they are fools.
I think we are all above that, or should be.
I agree 100% "It's his death that is fake people, not his music"
Even in TII I questioned a bit about really Michael but I have learned that the Master has done just what he wanted and if we can't see that then we are not getting the message.
I love you all for staying with this site for so long as I have, for loving Michael unconditionally.
Well said all of you!! I pre-ordered two copies and they didn't make it in the mail today. I went to the store and bought three more copies as I'll give some away as gifts to my kids. I am loving the music!!!!
I have to say that in the store the person in front of me had one cd in her hand and it was Michael. It make me smile. I noticed too that they had Michael CD's on two shelves and both were almost out. I am SOOOO hoping that he goes to #1 here in the US. Either that or I'll go broke trying to do my part :) Blessings to you all.
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I read an article saying that the new album Michael lacked power and was watered down. So this morning I was a little nervous about what I was going to hear when I popped the album into my cd player. After 5 songs I realized something. That dumbass article was wrong. Wow, after the first 5 songs I went back and played them over again because they were so good. For all of the people saying it isn't Michael on 3 of the tracks, you are wrong. Seriously. It is completely him. Maybe I can tell more because I didn't listen to him much growing up like I do now. I had the opportunity of listening to all of his albums almost all at the same time. After his "death" I bought his stuff and realized what I had been missing for years. I noticed all of the differences in his voice from Off The Wall to Invincible and maybe it was easier for me to tell these differences because I had not been raised on years of Thriller and Bad. I think people who listened to all of his 80s and 90s music are a little biased because they want to hear Billie Jean and Beat It, but instead Michael is introducing his new up to date style and I really think people are afraid to admit that his music is changing.
After hearing all of the songs I can say with 100% certainty that Michael is the only Michael singing on this album along with other backups and such. Also, this album proves to me that he is alive. Look at (I Like) The Way You Love Me on Michael. They play an original part of his demo to make it sound like the song is unfinished and then pow out of nowhere you hear Michael singing the lyrics and it doesn't sound anything like a demo. It sounds like he had just got done recording this song that's how fresh it sounds. I couldn't believe it. None of these songs are "unfinished" or anything. All of the music in every song is finished and incredibly well done. This album is a masterpiece. anybody with ears can notice that. Don't let the media persuade you. They are playing with us. He will be coming out with another album, I can assure you. Michael lives out of the spotlight now, while remaining in his own personal hidden spotlight while we enjoy his new songs like this. It's a perfect strategy. He knows exactly what he is doing.
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it's officially the release date in the U.S.
today's pretty bittersweet. my grandmother passed away 2 years ago. today she would have been 100. :(
the michael cd is the only thing i had to look forward to today. so thanks to whoever chose this date.
with that being said, i can't wait to finally join all of you in loving this cd!!!
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it's officially the release date in the U.S.
today's pretty bittersweet. my grandmother passed away 2 years ago. today she would have been 100. :(
the michael cd is the only thing i had to look forward to today. so thanks to whoever chose this date.
with that being said, i can't wait to finally join all of you in loving this cd!!!
I feel what you mean, my grandmother passed away on Dec 13 6 years ago, yesterday she would have been 102. I still miss her. I hope you'll feel better after listening Michael :)
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Well my CD didn't arrive from Amazon as they promised :cry:
But I had to go to town and pick up a few things...sooo I had a wonderful 45 minute ride home listening to Michael!! I had to buy it!!!! I had to hear it!!! And I probably will buy more to give as gifts :-)
Doing my part too!
I have to say I love every song!
Hold My Hand made me cry again :lol:
I am intrigued with Behind the Mask.
I love each song!!! I Like The Way You Love Me is wonderful and a bit more finished than on the Ultimate set.
I am so glad the lyrics are in the booklet!!!!!
Just as Michael always does!
Hi Hi !! Michael! We LOVE you!!
Off to start the CD again!
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i bought the album today. the actual album, not the itunes. the auto tune sucks sometimes but....
IT'S BRILLIANT! I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!
THANK YOU MICHAEL FOR THIS GIFT!
every song, i want to either dance or cry to. it's just absolutely wonderful. every song just gives me faith. it's like every track is in some miraculous way a moral booster. what a blessing! bravo! bravo! bravo!
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SHIRLEY, you all are kidding? .... No we are not kidding and my name is not Shirley. !!! Tribute to Leslie Neilson.
But Shirley you all are kidding?? I am listening to the album for the first time as I type this and unless someone can provide me with definative proof that this is not MR Jackson's voice then I am going to enjoy every song for the pure entertainment and musical chocolate that it is giving me.
I do think that if Mr Jackson is alive he allowed this album to be released as is for the pure enjoyment of the fans. Do you really think that this perfectionist of a man would have allowed an album to be released that he did not like???? come on...
If he has truely passed I believe that the people closest to him worked very hard to bring his music to his fans as best they could.
Prove to me definatively that Jason Malachi is singing on this album.... and I mean definatively. Skow me documents.... show me contacts.... show me something.
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oops..cannot edit again but I meant to say show me contracts and show me not skow me. Need sleep
Can you all just enjoy this album for the wonderful music and stop seeing things that perhaps are not there? Take a moment and enjoy.
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You guys are lucky that can actually listen to it, I bought my copy today, got it home, unwrapped the security seal - no CD!!! :o :o My daughter immediately joked about a conspiracy but I didn't see the funny side at the time! Now I'll have to return it and explain what happened, can't believe my (bad) luck!! :(
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You guys are lucky that can actually listen to it, I bought my copy today, got it home, unwrapped the security seal - no CD!!! :o :o My daughter immediately joked about a conspiracy but I didn't see the funny side at the time! Now I'll have to return it and explain what happened, can't believe my (bad) luck!! :(
Oh bummer! I unwrapped mine in the parking lot, had it playing full OMG it almost hurts my ears loud pulling out of the parking lot and home.
I'm enjoying! Just Pure Joy to me!!
My MJ fix of the year!!!! Anybody remember the cartoon where the dog hugs himself, floats up and then softly down? That's me when I listen to Michael!
I hope you did get your copy, I would be sure to let Sony know what happened. How rotten!
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I read an article saying that the new album Michael lacked power and was watered down. So this morning I was a little nervous about what I was going to hear when I popped the album into my cd player. After 5 songs I realized something. That dumbass article was wrong. Wow, after the first 5 songs I went back and played them over again because they were so good. For all of the people saying it isn't Michael on 3 of the tracks, you are wrong. Seriously. It is completely him. Maybe I can tell more because I didn't listen to him much growing up like I do now. I had the opportunity of listening to all of his albums almost all at the same time. After his "death" I bought his stuff and realized what I had been missing for years. I noticed all of the differences in his voice from Off The Wall to Invincible and maybe it was easier for me to tell these differences because I had not been raised on years of Thriller and Bad. I think people who listened to all of his 80s and 90s music are a little biased because they want to hear Billie Jean and Beat It, but instead Michael is introducing his new up to date style and I really think people are afraid to admit that his music is changing.
After hearing all of the songs I can say with 100% certainty that Michael is the only Michael singing on this album along with other backups and such. Also, this album proves to me that he is alive. Look at (I Like) The Way You Love Me on Michael. They play an original part of his demo to make it sound like the song is unfinished and then pow out of nowhere you hear Michael singing the lyrics and it doesn't sound anything like a demo. It sounds like he had just got done recording this song that's how fresh it sounds. I couldn't believe it. None of these songs are "unfinished" or anything. All of the music in every song is finished and incredibly well done. This album is a masterpiece. anybody with ears can notice that. Don't let the media persuade you. They are playing with us. He will be coming out with another album, I can assure you. Michael lives out of the spotlight now, while remaining in his own personal hidden spotlight while we enjoy his new songs like this. It's a perfect strategy. He knows exactly what he is doing.
I meant to comment on your post! Thank you! I agree!!
100% Michael. He does know exactly what he's doing!!
We LOVE you Michael!
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You guys are lucky that can actually listen to it, I bought my copy today, got it home, unwrapped the security seal - no CD!!! :o :o My daughter immediately joked about a conspiracy but I didn't see the funny side at the time! Now I'll have to return it and explain what happened, can't believe my (bad) luck!! :(
That's awful! :( Hope they believe you when you explain to the store.
My husband bought mine yesterday. I listened to it just now. And I love, love :o :P :D so much love it! Of course I'm can hear the questionable parts, but I think to myself for what purpose would they put some faker on. I know way back when I listened to 2000 watts I figured they must have lowered the speed, but now I know he has these 'special' abilities to disguise his voice, incredible range, beat box sounds, almost like a chamelion to change to the need around him. He loves controversy and mystery. I believe he didn't just leave special instructions on what he wanted for some songs or the albums; I believe he was working on it himself just like he and Kenny worked on TII final cut. He says he hears every part or instrument of the music in his head and goes out and finds the exact sound. I believe he did that with "Michael".
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I LUV IT TO BITS - I don't care what reviewers say - I make up my own mind and I love every song.
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You guys are lucky that can actually listen to it, I bought my copy today, got it home, unwrapped the security seal - no CD!!! :o :o My daughter immediately joked about a conspiracy but I didn't see the funny side at the time! Now I'll have to return it and explain what happened, can't believe my (bad) luck!! :(
That really sucks! :o
But it's kind of funny. :lol: How does somebody forget to put the CD in the package? :lol:
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I LUV IT TO BITS - I don't care what reviewers say - I make up my own mind and I love every song.
exactly what i think also.
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You guys are lucky that can actually listen to it, I bought my copy today, got it home, unwrapped the security seal - no CD!!! :o :o My daughter immediately joked about a conspiracy but I didn't see the funny side at the time! Now I'll have to return it and explain what happened, can't believe my (bad) luck!! :(
That really sucks! :o
But it's kind of funny. :lol: How does somebody forget to put the CD in the package? :lol:
Whaaaaat??!? That's crazy!! And so sad - I would have cried! LBS (Laughing but serious) :lol:
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I read an article saying that the new album Michael lacked power and was watered down. So this morning I was a little nervous about what I was going to hear when I popped the album into my cd player. After 5 songs I realized something. That dumbass article was wrong. Wow, after the first 5 songs I went back and played them over again because they were so good. For all of the people saying it isn't Michael on 3 of the tracks, you are wrong. Seriously. It is completely him. Maybe I can tell more because I didn't listen to him much growing up like I do now. I had the opportunity of listening to all of his albums almost all at the same time. After his "death" I bought his stuff and realized what I had been missing for years. I noticed all of the differences in his voice from Off The Wall to Invincible and maybe it was easier for me to tell these differences because I had not been raised on years of Thriller and Bad. I think people who listened to all of his 80s and 90s music are a little biased because they want to hear Billie Jean and Beat It, but instead Michael is introducing his new up to date style and I really think people are afraid to admit that his music is changing.
After hearing all of the songs I can say with 100% certainty that Michael is the only Michael singing on this album along with other backups and such. Also, this album proves to me that he is alive. Look at (I Like) The Way You Love Me on Michael. They play an original part of his demo to make it sound like the song is unfinished and then pow out of nowhere you hear Michael singing the lyrics and it doesn't sound anything like a demo. It sounds like he had just got done recording this song that's how fresh it sounds. I couldn't believe it. None of these songs are "unfinished" or anything. All of the music in every song is finished and incredibly well done. This album is a masterpiece. anybody with ears can notice that. Don't let the media persuade you. They are playing with us. He will be coming out with another album, I can assure you. Michael lives out of the spotlight now, while remaining in his own personal hidden spotlight while we enjoy his new songs like this. It's a perfect strategy. He knows exactly what he is doing.
I meant to comment on your post! Thank you! I agree!!
100% Michael. He does know exactly what he's doing!!
We LOVE you Michael!
I'm glad you agree! Most people just argue about this now, but it's really nice to see that somebody feels the same way. That made my day. Thank you!
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I wondered if anybody else that gets the yahoo news alerts on MJ are seeing these headlines "Lacko Jacko" and others that make my blood boil? I am also wondering if you folks are sending comments to the fact that they are wrong and unfairly judging this CD. Ugh again.
Why do these jerks think they can just think for others on this? WE the fans are the ones it is for, we are the ones that decide if we like it or not. They need to shut the hell up.
I am going to start defending my right to make up my own damn mind on this.
Am I wrong to think that we should jump down their throats for their continued disrespect?
Of course done with class and grace :lol:
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First, I want to say that I thought those particular songs might not be Michael at first...but after getting the album I can say with 100% certainty it is ALL him. I think it's just some new sounds, as well as promoting some necessary controversy. Wanted to share here what I posted on another thread (in response to an article that gave the album bad reviews):
I think there are some very DIFFERENT sounds on this album - but different doesn't equal bad. I think sometimes people are so scared of change, that they just don't give things a chance. Especially when it comes to Michael Jackson - these are new songs, new sounds for him. But are they really new to him? I doubt it. I'm sure he's always enjoyed making many different kinds of music that maybe nobody will ever hear. But anyway, these songs are truly good. I can see how one may not prefer the production style, but I really think that's how Michael wanted it to sound. He's trying to give us something we've never seen before. He's trying to shake us up a bit and get us ready to embrace CHANGE.
This album is a masterpiece. There's a song for everyone on it - me, my 13 year old sister, my grandma - you name it. There's something for everyone, and probably something you'll like that you wouldn't think you'd like. And the LYRICS...don't get me started. Do you know how sick and tired I am of turning on the radio only to hear the words "sex" "bitch" "drunk" "club" over and over again? And what's sad is that many songs of today not only lack substance lyrically, but musically as well. So that makes it just a blob of a song - a pointless waste of energy. But Michael's new album, as well as all his music, contains lyrics with substance AND music with substance. That is what makes Michael great, the album and the man.
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I wondered if anybody else that gets the yahoo news alerts on MJ are seeing these headlines "Lacko Jacko" and others that make my blood boil? I am also wondering if you folks are sending comments to the fact that they are wrong and unfairly judging this CD. Ugh again.
Why do these jerks think they can just think for others on this? WE the fans are the ones it is for, we are the ones that decide if we like it or not. They need to shut the hell up.
I am going to start defending my right to make up my own damn mind on this.
Am I wrong to think that we should jump down their throats for their continued disrespect?
Of course done with class and grace :lol:
Don't let your blood boil, it's not worth it. It will never change, especially when an album is great, has a lot of attention and sells good, there're always people who cannot stand this and start to react brainless, I believe it's called jealousy :lol:
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You guys are lucky that can actually listen to it, I bought my copy today, got it home, unwrapped the security seal - no CD!!! :o :o My daughter immediately joked about a conspiracy but I didn't see the funny side at the time! Now I'll have to return it and explain what happened, can't believe my (bad) luck!! :(
That's awful! :( Hope they believe you when you explain to the store.
My husband bought mine yesterday. I listened to it just now. And I love, love :o :P :D so much love it! Of course I'm can hear the questionable parts, but I think to myself for what purpose would they put some faker on. I know way back when I listened to 2000 watts I figured they must have lowered the speed, but now I know he has these 'special' abilities to disguise his voice, incredible range, beat box sounds, almost like a chamelion to change to the need around him. He loves controversy and mystery. I believe he didn't just leave special instructions on what he wanted for some songs or the albums; I believe he was working on it himself just like he and Kenny worked on TII final cut. He says he hears every part or instrument of the music in his head and goes out and finds the exact sound. I believe he did that with "Michael".
Thanks for that, yes they did believe me as when I explained what happened they opened the others on the display and they were all empty!! :lol: They'd been sent a bunch of dummy boxes without CDs for display and someone had put security seals on them and put them out for sale. Thankfully the manager found one in the storeroom which had a CD so I got my copy!! Love it already! ;)
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"Thanks for that, yes they did believe me as when I explained what happened they opened the others on the display and they were all empty!! :lol: They'd been sent a bunch of dummy boxes without CDs for display and someone had put security seals on them and put them out for sale. Thankfully the manager found one in the storeroom which had a CD so I got my copy!! Love it already!"
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Wow I'm glad you got your copy! I wonder who else may have an empty box as a gift?
Funny but sad.
I am listening again and I LOVE IT!!!
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First, I want to say that I thought those particular songs might not be Michael at first...but after getting the album I can say with 100% certainty it is ALL him. I think it's just some new sounds, as well as promoting some necessary controversy. Wanted to share here what I posted on another thread (in response to an article that gave the album bad reviews):
I think there are some very DIFFERENT sounds on this album - but different doesn't equal bad. I think sometimes people are so scared of change, that they just don't give things a chance. Especially when it comes to Michael Jackson - these are new songs, new sounds for him. But are they really new to him? I doubt it. I'm sure he's always enjoyed making many different kinds of music that maybe nobody will ever hear. But anyway, these songs are truly good. I can see how one may not prefer the production style, but I really think that's how Michael wanted it to sound. He's trying to give us something we've never seen before. He's trying to shake us up a bit and get us ready to embrace CHANGE.
This album is a masterpiece. There's a song for everyone on it - me, my 13 year old sister, my grandma - you name it. There's something for everyone, and probably something you'll like that you wouldn't think you'd like. And the LYRICS...don't get me started. Do you know how sick and tired I am of turning on the radio only to hear the words "sex" "bitch" "drunk" "club" over and over again? And what's sad is that many songs of today not only lack substance lyrically, but musically as well. So that makes it just a blob of a song - a pointless waste of energy. But Michael's new album, as well as all his music, contains lyrics with substance AND music with substance. That is what makes Michael great, the album and the man.
100% agreed!
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I received my copy of the MICHAEL cd tonight in the mail. I have to tell you all...it is wonderful. :P :P I heard the leak songs and although hearing them got me intrigued and excited, they are nothing compared to listening to them one after another on the cd, multiple times, is like. And I have to say...it is all Michael, as far as I am concerned. OK, so he is sharing the stage on Breaking News and I know that is highly unusual in and of itself. But, the beat is catchy and the words are as what are described in the booklet, "Michael's life under a microscope....Michael's personal story." I don't know if Michael is behind its production, but it sure feels like it. 8-) 8-)
No wonder the album is #1 in 8 countries. Michael....cool move, great album! :D 8-)
Indeed "Michael" is ALL Michael" The 3 songs in question where altered at Michael's request! Listen to Teddy Riley, Michael gave Teddy notes on how he wanted these songs presented. Michael planed for this album to come out when it did and Michael did a change up on the way he sang and had Teddy work his magic as well. The reason? Michael has very extremely important messages for us in those songs. He wanted people to listen to them over and over, so that you would hear what he is trying to say to us. Anyone who doesn't believe Michael Joe Jackson is capable of sounding like anyone that could duplicate him, is fooling themselves and really missing out on the purpose of the Album. This Album is a wake up call, so PLEASE pay attention to the message...ESPECIALLY in these 3 controversial songs
I love you all and God Bless you.....
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Indeed "Michael" is ALL Michael" The 3 songs in question where altered at Michael's request! Listen to Teddy Riley, Michael gave Teddy notes on how he wanted these songs presented. Michael planed for this album to come out when it did and Michael did a change up on the way he sang and had Teddy work his magic as well. The reason? Michael has very extremely important messages for us in those songs. He wanted people to listen to them over and over, so that you would hear what he is trying to say to us. Anyone who doesn't believe Michael Joe Jackson is capable of sounding like anyone that could duplicate him, is fooling themselves and really missing out on the purpose of the Album. This Album is a wake up call, so PLEASE pay attention to the message...ESPECIALLY in these 3 controversial songs
I love you all and God Bless you.....
I've tried to stay away from all the negativity about this CD. So I am confused about which 3 songs. Is it the 3 Cascio songs? Monster-Keep Your Head Up- Breaking news?
I really like all 3 and I find it hard to think that they are not as Michael wants them.
:lol: I love shrieking right along to Monster!!
Wake up call indeed! The lyrics are there, Michaels voice is there, the message is there!
Haven't studied them yet but by God they are amazing! I grow weary of those that want the old Michael of Thriller etc...nobody has a right to grow? Those that won't buy it are missing out on so much life and love. Perhaps they never noticed the differences in Dangerous and on to Invincible?
I hope it continues to climb!
I love you all too ;)
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Indeed "Michael" is ALL Michael" The 3 songs in question where altered at Michael's request! Listen to Teddy Riley, Michael gave Teddy notes on how he wanted these songs presented. Michael planed for this album to come out when it did and Michael did a change up on the way he sang and had Teddy work his magic as well. The reason? Michael has very extremely important messages for us in those songs. He wanted people to listen to them over and over, so that you would hear what he is trying to say to us. Anyone who doesn't believe Michael Joe Jackson is capable of sounding like anyone that could duplicate him, is fooling themselves and really missing out on the purpose of the Album. This Album is a wake up call, so PLEASE pay attention to the message...ESPECIALLY in these 3 controversial songs
I love you all and God Bless you.....
I've tried to stay away from all the negativity about this CD. So I am confused about which 3 songs. Is it the 3 Cascio songs? Monster-Keep Your Head Up- Breaking news?
I really like all 3 and I find it hard to think that they are not as Michael wants them.
:lol: I love shrieking right along to Monster!!
Wake up call indeed! The lyrics are there, Michaels voice is there, the message is there!
Haven't studied them yet but by God they are amazing! I grow weary of those that want the old Michael of Thriller etc...nobody has a right to grow? Those that won't buy it are missing out on so much life and love. Perhaps they never noticed the differences in Dangerous and on to Invincible?
I hope it continues to climb!
I love you all too ;)
Yes indeed those are the ones. Not Jason Malachi....Jason said so himself. Like Michael said, "They misunderstand me, it's cause they don't really know me AT ALL! Michael has grown so much over the years, in so many areas of his life. If one compares "What More Can I Give" to "2000 Watts" You can definately hear the vast vocal range. The acapela of 2000 Watts shows the strong vibrato that he has going on in the new songs!
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I wondered if anybody else that gets the yahoo news alerts on MJ are seeing these headlines "Lacko Jacko" and others that make my blood boil? I am also wondering if you folks are sending comments to the fact that they are wrong and unfairly judging this CD. Ugh again.
Why do these jerks think they can just think for others on this? WE the fans are the ones it is for, we are the ones that decide if we like it or not. They need to shut the hell up.
I am going to start defending my right to make up my own damn mind on this.
Am I wrong to think that we should jump down their throats for their continued disrespect?
Of course done with class and grace :lol:
Don't let your blood boil, it's not worth it. It will never change, especially when an album is great, has a lot of attention and sells good, there're always people who cannot stand this and start to react brainless, I believe it's called jealousy :lol:
If Michael loves controversy, then let the haters do their worst, MJ's invincible. Just about every place I go and there are stupid comments, I'm always happy to find lots of positive loving Michael comments that make them look stupider. I believe slowly the tide will change.
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I forgot to come back here! :lol:
Anyway, I LOVE ALL OF THE SONGS!!!!!!!!!!! I can't choose a favorite! :o
I'm listening to it right now, and so I'm going to write what I like about each song :D
1. Hold My Hand:
I love the whole song, it's so smooth but it's also something you can dance to! :D MJ sounds great, I just wish there was more MJ and less Akon. :o But the two sound great together! :)
2. Hollywood Tonight:
I love how Michael is beatboxing throughout the entire song. Is there any thing this man is bad at? :lol: I love the chorus to this song too, and overall it's just a nice beat!
3. Keep Your Head Up*
I heard this song back when it was leaked & I loved it! I love the message and it's a great song!
4. (I Like) The Way You Love Me
I love the beginning of this song, I can't tell if Michael's on a tape recorder or a phone, but it shows how he made his music! Just like he said, he would randomly think of a song, and he'd know how he wanted the instruments to sound, the rhythm that he wanted them to play. And the song is beautiful. "I was alone in the dark when i met chaaa. Oooooooooo ooooo" I just love this one :D
5. Monster*
I love this song! It's so upbeat and catchy. It reminds me of "Threatened"
(is that Michael saying "HA!" it sounds like him, :D)
6. Best of Joy
This is such a beautiful song! It's so smooth and Michael's vocals are just sooo gorgeous, especially in this song. "I am foreverrrrr! We are foreverrrr!" I love it. :)
7. Breaking News*
This was another one I heard back when it was released :D and I loved it! I love the violins in the beginning and it's a great song. :D
8. (I Can't Make It) Another Day
Ahhh ! I love this song! It's so POWERFUL! I love how Michael sings the chorus, the same way he sang the end of Earth Song. I don't know, I love when he "yell-sings" :twisted:
9. Behind the Mask
I love this song! Another one with Michael beatboxing! :D
(Isn't that the crowd from the Dangerous Tour: Live at Bucharest? 8-))
10. Much Too Soon
This song is so beautiful, I like to listen to it with my eyes closed because it's like Speechless, just Michael's voice accompanied by a few classical instruments. It's short and sweet. It sounds sad though. :(
*These were 3 that "don't sound like Michael" I used to think it was Jason Malachi singing, but now that I see others' well-thought out opinions, I too think that Michael intentionally manipulated his voice. ;)
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Before listening myself I read some critics about Michael's album, they said nothing was good at all about the album.
I find that total nonsense after listening for myself! What a great album it is! I didn't expect it to be this good. Some people like these reviewers only want to hear old mega hits like Thriller again in a new song and don't accept his music to change.
I choose not to spoil the joy of listening to this album with the theories like jason malachi or other Michael's singing. I think others would be doing good to do the same.
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Before listening myself I read some critics about Michael's album, they said nothing was good at all about the album.
I find that total nonsense after listening for myself! What a great album it is! I didn't expect it to be this good. Some people like these reviewers only want to hear old mega hits like Thriller again in a new song and don't accept his music to change.
I choose not to spoil the joy of listening to this album with the theories like jason malachi or other Michael's singing. I think others would be doing good to do the same.
Exactly! OMG I love every song, I can't even choose a favorite. I think it might be "(I Can't Make It) Another Day" though, because I love how powerfully Michael sings the chorus. I don't know what album those critics are listening to, but I LOVE "Michael"!
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I agree! I am totally enjoying Michael!
I read some of the reviews on Amazon, some are so wrong! Maybe we should all put our "Love it!" praises in and drown out the negative?
I am going there right now to put in 5 star praise!
I see it is $6.99 USD right now on Amazon! I have 2 CD's already but hmmm.
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I am enjoying Michael, however, it seems to be lacking something. I dunno :? In my opinion, it doesn't have the same bravado as previous Michael undertakings. Something. Perhaps it's just too short.
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The more I listen... the more it grows on me. It's growing by the minute. 8-) Still wish there was more.
The last line being "well I guess I learned my lesson much too soon" just feels empty like life interrupted. :cry:
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I JUST OPENED IT!!!!!! AHHHHHHH I'M SO EXCITED TO LISTEN!!!
I will post my review in a moment, after I have thoroughly basked in all its glory :D :D :D
I will say this about the cover picture though - I love it a lot. Looking at it is like a trip down memory lane :) It's like his whole life shown to us right here on paper <3 Beautiful.
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Alright you guys, I have just listened to the entire album.
Wow...
First off, after re-reading all your posts now having listened to it I want to say Jacilovesmichael I COMPLETELY love and agree with what you said above!!!
This album is a masterpiece, and the haters are pshhh :roll: the same old haters that are always dissin on MJ. We know they're just hating because thats their job. This music, in my opinion, is just as beautiful as anything he has created.
At first I was THIS close to skipping over "The Way You Love Me" because I thought ehh I've heard it before I wanna hear the new stuff, but then it started and MJs voice was talking and I was like :shock: ooh I'm all ears. Then I listened, I think it sounds so much better!!! Just all the little things he added in there really make a difference. Personally, I love hearing one version of a song and then later hearing the "completed" version, or how MJ really intended. I hope he does it with more songs in future albums.
Now I loved all these songs, but I have to say the one that stuck out to me, although it was short, was Much Too Soon. A really interesting way to close the album. I just thought it was soooooo beautiful. The melody is so pure, and MJs voice is just heavenly like always. This song really touched my heart.
NOW for those 3 songs. I can see why people would think it is not MJ. That is, people who are not investigators like us, or die-hard fans that are non-believers, etc. You have to look at it from a certain perspective that some people just aren't ready for yet. I think it sounds different, but not in the same way 2000 watts is different. But whether its MJ or not, it doesnt really matter because, being a 'believer' I know that MJ had 100% control over the presentation of this album and whatever we are hearing is what he wants us to hear. And there are multiple reasons for all the decisions he made. Did he change the voices just because he wants to try something new or is it specifically to cause controversy, knowing that certain people would not want to buy the album because of it. What I wanna know is why certain songs have little bits of info at the top and others don't.
But all in all it's a beautiful amazing album. I knew I would love it and I absolutely love everything about these songs :D FABULOUS WORK MICHAEL!!!!!!!!
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I JUST OPENED IT!!!!!! AHHHHHHH I'M SO EXCITED TO LISTEN!!!
I will post my review in a moment, after I have thoroughly basked in all its glory :D :D :D
I will say this about the cover picture though - I love it a lot. Looking at it is like a trip down memory lane :) It's like his whole life shown to us right here on paper <3 Beautiful.
Just immerse yourself!!!! Enjoy!!
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The more I listen to it the better I like it.
I still cannot do BN. I just can't. It's awful.
But I adore the Way You Love Me. Omg that song is pure happiness. I just smile and sing and dance with my dogs, they love it, I play that song and they jump up like hooray!! we dance!! Thanks Mr. Jackson.
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The more I listen to it the better I like it.
I still cannot do BN. I just can't. It's awful.
But I adore the Way You Love Me. Omg that song is pure happiness. I just smile and sing and dance with my dogs, they love it, I play that song and they jump up like hooray!! we dance!! Thanks Mr. Jackson.
I held off on BN, first time I heard it I was like "Huh?" BUT I like it now, listen to the words. He's just doing what many have done, talking about himself and what he goes through. It's a more intimate song than Why you trippin' on me, it's about how it affects him and how ridiculous it is they continue to lurk, intrude and say lies, turn him into just a name instead of a living human being. IMO
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I'm up late, watching CNN and their special on Christianity and I am making a ton of Apple Oatmeal mini muffins for my dogs :D They deserve it, my buddies. They dance with me too to MJ!!
Merry Christmas! I am looking forward to what 2011 brings us.
Michael we just need a tiny sign, we need to put away the coats of many buckles for a while and just enjoy what you have given us for so long and in the future.
We LOVE you and MISS you Michael!
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Enjoying MICHAEL :D should be the actual name of this album :!: Never mind all the questions and critics. You cannot enjoy if you have poison static bouncing between your ears. This album lives totally up to a phrase I saw on another of MJ's older solo issues: "MUSIC FOR PLEASURE" :D
It is all Michael Jackson 8-) . Every squeak. Every Classical homage. Every symphonic touch. Every soundbite personally selected from our collective memories of him. Every carefully placed secret hoax clue. Every puzzling purposeful nod from him, our way...
He is trying to make us SEE. I don't know what all these things mean, and, for certain, I haven't discovered them all, but they mean some thing ;) ; MJ is speaking, from "the HOAXED grave"....ooooOOOOoooo 8-) .
Check this out. I didn't listen to any of the chaos being generated by the leaked tracks. I didn't want some critic coloring my first impressions. I played the CD through, once, and read the little booklet along with it, the second time through.
I don't know what it means but the gold text is patchy in places and very hard to read---especially in less than great light. It seems someone was going for an antiquated look, where some of the gold leaf got rubbed off through the years. To someone hungrily looking for clues, it was :x irritating---to have parts of letters in words missing. I even tried to rub the print off, myself---thinking I had just gotten an inferior/worn copy. :oops: But that's not it.
It is by design, and only a few of the songs even have comments preceding the lyrics. Of those, only Keep Your Head Up, and Best of Joy, do NOT have the patchy gold written comments. These two are crystal clear. Makes you go, "Hmm".
Hold My Hand, (I Like) The Way You Love Me , and Monster, and Breaking News, are the ones with the patchy, hard to read, gold written comments. These made me go, "Whoa!!!"
I believe these are the ones with the secrets in them...
Now---
I've listened to the previously unreleased (until The Ultimate Collection ) The Way You Love Me over a thousand times. The choppy gold writing says of this version---on Michael--that MJ wanted to revisit it and perfect it. I love this song; I couldn't believe he'd mess with it. Lastly, the comments say, "May this song make you smile, like I did." oh my gosh :o Forget smiling! Try laughing with sheer fiendish delight! :twisted: :lol:
I was so used to hearing the 2004 release, that this one sounded "fuzzy" to me, less clean and crisp. Unmixed, I guess. MJ is too prominent, and what the heck is all that background noise? Seagulls? Dolphins? Baby monkeys and white noise? Some special friends IN the room with him?
Additionally, it was missing certain sounds, which I LOVE, which makes the song paint a picture in my head of lounging on the seashore, on blue and white wide stripe towels, and ocean liners, with giant stacks, in the same frothy water lapping at my feet... :D I just assumed MJ had put something subliminal inside, to paint this vision when the 2004 song is heard. The 2010 version doesn't DO this to me. It is too noisy and crowded---no way peaceful. I also missed the "Chris Montez-ish"(to my ear, anyway :oops: ), easygoing, "La La La La" homage, as the song ends.
The 2004 version :D IS the FINISHED, fully "painted", deep, rich, flowing version :!: The song is so seriously loving---it doesn't matter how you touch me...it's YOU, just do it, touch me. The 2010 "tweaking"/perfecting, has some things in it which seriously take the song in another, more bubblegum direction. IMHO, MJ would NEVER leave all that noise and those silly flutes at the end of such a hot song. :roll:
A wannabee or poser or stirrer :o of hoax pots, might ;)
...or maybe this is just the genuine demo, before MJ really played around with it. Go, listen to the finished 2004 one. 8-) 8-) 8-) Someone is playing with the truth, here... :o
Remember, just because it is in (gold) print, (on MJ's own album)doesn't mean it is the truth...
The other songs, I haven't investigated in depth, yet. One thing I noticed in Behind The Mask, is something from Is It Scary: where he says over and over, "I don't want to talk about it!" I don't know what it means. There are no comments in gold writing, patchy or clear, preceding this one. I just thought I would mention this tidbit, for documentation purposes. We all can hear it, plainly.
And, hey, is that Diane Dimond on BN :?: How does she rate? What is he trying to tell us about her? :o
:) More juicy stuff? genius explanations??
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Before I read the lyrics, I thought MJ was saying, "Bet It All" jeans, in Hollywood Tonight.
I actually made a mental note to google the brand. :!: :roll: I think hoaxing is taking its toll :P :lol:
(But, don't they SOUND interesting???)
:mrgreen: Someone, go invent these!$$$
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Love it, It's Her.
Hey, I can't place it, but, the ad lib from Another Day "It's just too much for me"... from what song? It's right on the tip of my tongue...........
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Love it, It's Her.
Hey, I can't place it, but, the ad lib from Another Day "It's just too much for me"... from what song? It's right on the tip of my tongue...........
Just the sentence you quoted , is in 2 Bad... :) what do you suppose these mean? Are they just to compare and verify that the vocals on Michael are really MJ? It was his idea to have people say they are not him... :shock:
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Love it, It's Her.
Hey, I can't place it, but, the ad lib from Another Day "It's just too much for me"... from what song? It's right on the tip of my tongue...........
Just the sentence you quoted , is in 2 Bad... :) what do you suppose these mean? Are they just to compare and verify that the vocals on Michael are really MJ? It was his idea to have people say they are not him... :shock:
I have no idea what they mean. What happened to the lines from Earth Song "what about death again", weren't they in the leaked version of KYHU? They're not on the album. Where'd they go?
I suppose these little things placed here n' there are designed to be followed like bread crumbs.
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Great post It's Her.
I checked my booklet and there are gold printed comments before every song and none looks rubbed off. Perhaps you got a bad copy?
I like that you say it's all Michael :D I do too, no question at all. He sings to each song the way he wants to. I heard BN before and a few seconds of Hold My hand but didn't listen to anything else to keep my mind in tune.
I like what Teddy tweeted
"Merry new Jacksmas!!! "
It's good, it's gotta be good....or is that Bad? :lol:
One of the tweeters had some intersting things to say, kinda hard language but it's ok the point is made.
http://twitter.com/teddyriley1 (http://twitter.com/teddyriley1)
".moonwalkerJ @TeddyRiley1 Re-Fucking-Tweet! 'MICHAEL' IS THE #1 SELLING GLOBAL ALBUM with 3 million shipments! Can I get a FUCK U for all the boycotters?
5:40 AM Dec 23rd via web
Retweeted by TeddyRiley1 and 61 others"
Woohoo! Maybe it isn't for the money but the money helps, I like the comments moonwalker makes about sony and how it is the top % of the top ten albums. Too bad the boycotters kept it to #3 by their stupid unproven rants. Maybe the Christmas sales this past week will prove to be good?
Off to bed..sleep tight my friends, dream of our man ;)
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Love it, It's Her.
Hey, I can't place it, but, the ad lib from Another Day "It's just too much for me"... from what song? It's right on the tip of my tongue...........
Just the sentence you quoted , is in 2 Bad... :) what do you suppose these mean? Are they just to compare and verify that the vocals on Michael are really MJ? It was his idea to have people say they are not him... :shock:
I have no idea what they mean. What happened to the lines from Earth Song "what about death again", weren't they in the leaked version of KYHU? They're not on the album. Where'd they go?
I suppose these little things placed here n' there are designed to be followed like bread crumbs.
Bread crumbs, yeah. To lead us back home, to the truth, and to him. :)
I haven't listened to any leaked versions. I think they are irrelevant, now, but am open to being shown otherwise. To me, they have done their job of jerking people around and making everyone crazy. Someone show me a reason that we need to consider the false, when we have the hard copy of evidence--the true--in our hot little hands, and I will consider these.
I did notice that some very recognizable "Hoo" s, characteristic of previously, only The Earth Song, have turned up in at least three of the tracks on Michael:
Another Day, HMH, and one other, which I forget right now... :oops:
It just seemed distracting to hear it in three other songs on the same album. Every single time I was taken out of the instant song, :? to go, “Hmm, Earth Song”. I feel someone is trying TOO hard to authenticate this album. It seems amateurish---something MJ KNOWS he would never need to do. HIS handiwork is veeeery subtle...I am confused as to why the living MJ would permit this, unless to, with the family, plant yet another seed of doubt in our minds. :o
I've said it before, but he IS sort of a "Push-me-Pull-you". He likes to pull us in conflicting directions. I know I spelled it wrong. I can't remember the spelling from the original (not Eddie Murphy) Dr. Dolittle ("Talk to the animals") movie....
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I just noticed the CORRECT listed name for the 2004 release of (I Like) The Way You Love Me, is,
The Way How You Love Me.
It is also listed on the "Album Info" obtained online, for my computer, as, "I Love The Way How You Love Me". Just Bizarre. Why mess with the name of it (on MICHAEL), too? It means SOMEthing. :shock: :lol:
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I like the album as well. I thought it was interesting how they posted letters written by MJ in the booklet and also thanked Taryll MJ's nephew when he was one of the main one protesting the album.
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The other songs, I haven't investigated in depth, yet. One thing I noticed in Behind The Mask, is something from Is It Scary: where he says over and over, "I don't want to talk about it!" I don't know what it means. There are no comments in gold writing, patchy or clear, preceding this one. I just thought I would mention this tidbit, for documentation purposes. We all can hear it, plainly.
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OMG i noticed that too!!! Right away when I heard him say that I paused it, rewound it, and I was like alright i KNOW i've heard that in another one of his songs before :lol: actually the song is 2 Bad. At the VERY end right before he goes "too bad, too bad about it" thats what he says in the exact same way.
And it looks like he uses another phrase from 2 bad in another song "It's just too much for me"
Hmm... does it mean something?? ;)
EDIT: oh! oh! and i ALSO noticed the "hoos" at the end of KYHU sounded very similar to the ones he does in Earth Song! ;) but only after the second or third time I listened did I notice that, whereas the phrases from 2 Bad I noticed instantly. So I'm wondering if maybe there are other times he does this that we just haven't noticed yet?? Him idk but it definitely means something IMO.
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I just noticed the CORRECT listed name for the 2004 release of (I Like) The Way You Love Me, is,
The Way How You Love Me.
It is also listed on the "Album Info" obtained online, for my computer, as, "I Love The Way How You Love Me". Just Bizarre. Why mess with the name of it (on MICHAEL), too? It means SOMEthing. :shock: :lol:
I would also like to know what's up with the baby seal noise in the back round of this delightful little diddy.
It kind of cracks me up a little.
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I like the way You Love Me reminds me of a sunny day sitting in the garden with a cool drink. Both versions feel like this to me and I like both versions but I agree that the 2010 version does sound like it could be the early demo.
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I like the way You Love Me reminds me of a sunny day sitting in the garden with a cool drink. Both versions feel like this to me and I like both versions but I agree that the 2010 version does sound like it could be the early demo.
Seems like indeed i love the intro when Michael says "This is the melody and this is the tempo ... " :D
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Add me to the group of fans loving the album. I was depressed at first, when the FULL album was leaked (as I'm typing this-I think it was leaked 7 days before the release...HOLY...)- but it was also one of the things that got me suspicious about who is leaking it and why.
I've always been suspicious about the drama and circus around the Cascio songs. There was just something WAY off there. The family jumping in like they did- the press coverage...the tweeting... it was- well, a great show, I think. Orchestrated by the greatest show-man on Earth.
I agree that all this was done to stir controversy and to direct fans to those three songs. Each of them has messages and cues galore. The rap in Monster is a goldmine, as are some lyrics in KYHU ("give yourself a chance-find the circumstance- rise and do it again"), also I wonder about Another Day (I know Lenny K wrote it- but still- it feels like a "I am sorry I had to walk away for now, I know you- the fans- make me strong..."). Breaking News, to me, is a masterpiece. Not just for the obvious message, but also for the fact he makes part of his mission clearn: Breaking <the> News (as he sings it in several instances).
Best of Joy is such a clear message of love, trust, and faith: "I am (we are) forever." Indeed, we are, love.
The live bit in Behind the Mask has confused me- but I just found the tread about it and I can think about it from another perspective now. I wish more fans would look BEHIND MICHAEL and stop being distracted- this is such an obvious master piece and such an obvious clue of Michael NOT being gone for good. It gave me great happyness!
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i would just like to say that i think KYHU is probably the clearest message Michael is giving us fans right now as of the situation he is in.
I mean just look at the lyrics. not only to the chorus, which is self-explanatory, but the verses.
we're killing up the life in the birds and the trees
and we're sucking up the air in the earth from under me
i cant even breathe, i cant even see
keep your head up
don't give up today
how long can we wait
i wish the love would come today
umm...helloooooooooooooooooo?!
all you need is love, i tell you i know its coming soon
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if you dare to rise above tomorrow
just give yourself a chance, and fight the circumstance
rise and do it again
i need your love
i need you now
i need your light right here today
i need you now
and these are just the OBVIOUS ones...
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I love reading posts like this! Positive and so from the heart.
I agree that the Cascio tracks are being brought to the front for a reason.
I wondered if others heard the word "Bitch" at the begining of Monster, it's a real low growl tone. Or it may be a different word! :lol:
I really like the song, I keep hitting repeat on that and Behind the Mask.
I was also dismayed when I heard the entire album was leaked and wondered how that happened! :lol:
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I wondered if others heard the word "Bitch" at the begining of Monster, it's a real low growl tone. Or it may be a different word! :lol:
:lol: :lol: BAHAHA i just listened and i heard it! thats funny.
i'll admit the first time i heard breaking news when it was released i thought without a doubt it wasnt mike...but now i think it DOES sound like him. its almost like the songs on the album are different than the ones online! :P its like the more i listen to them the more it sounds like him, like the sound of his voice is actually changing the more i listen! its really weird!
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2 Bad wrote:
"I wondered if others heard the word "Bitch" at the begining of Monster, it's a real low growl tone. Or it may be a different word!
BAHAHA i just listened and i heard it! thats funny.
i'll admit the first time i heard breaking news when it was released i thought without a doubt it wasnt mike...but now i think it DOES sound like him. its almost like the songs on the album are different than the ones online! its like the more i listen to them the more it sounds like him, like the sound of his voice is actually changing the more i listen! its really weird!"
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Oh good! At least my mind wasn't playing tricks on me if you heard it too!
The man is pretty clever.
Now "who is the Bitch"?
Who is it?' Hahahahah!
Running for my jacket of many buckles again!
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The other songs, I haven't investigated in depth, yet. One thing I noticed in Behind The Mask, is something from Is It Scary: where he says over and over, "I don't want to talk about it!" I don't know what it means. There are no comments in gold writing, patchy or clear, preceding this one. I just thought I would mention this tidbit, for documentation purposes. We all can hear it, plainly.
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OMG i noticed that too!!! Right away when I heard him say that I paused it, rewound it, and I was like alright i KNOW i've heard that in another one of his songs before :lol: actually the song is 2 Bad. At the VERY end right before he goes "too bad, too bad about it" thats what he says in the exact same way.
And it looks like he uses another phrase from 2 bad in another song "It's just too much for me"
Hmm... does it mean something?? ;)
EDIT: oh! oh! and i ALSO noticed the "hoos" at the end of KYHU sounded very similar to the ones he does in Earth Song! ;) but only after the second or third time I listened did I notice that, whereas the phrases from 2 Bad I noticed instantly. So I'm wondering if maybe there are other times he does this that we just haven't noticed yet?? Him idk but it definitely means something IMO.
:? What version of 2 Bad are you listening to? I hear the phrase, "I don't want to talk about it!" in Is It Scary, but NO where in either version of 2 Bad ...Too weird! :lol:
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The other songs, I haven't investigated in depth, yet. One thing I noticed in Behind The Mask, is something from Is It Scary: where he says over and over, "I don't want to talk about it!" I don't know what it means. There are no comments in gold writing, patchy or clear, preceding this one. I just thought I would mention this tidbit, for documentation purposes. We all can hear it, plainly.
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OMG i noticed that too!!! Right away when I heard him say that I paused it, rewound it, and I was like alright i KNOW i've heard that in another one of his songs before :lol: actually the song is 2 Bad. At the VERY end right before he goes "too bad, too bad about it" thats what he says in the exact same way.
And it looks like he uses another phrase from 2 bad in another song "It's just too much for me"
Hmm... does it mean something?? ;)
EDIT: oh! oh! and i ALSO noticed the "hoos" at the end of KYHU sounded very similar to the ones he does in Earth Song! ;) but only after the second or third time I listened did I notice that, whereas the phrases from 2 Bad I noticed instantly. So I'm wondering if maybe there are other times he does this that we just haven't noticed yet?? Him idk but it definitely means something IMO.
:? What version of 2 Bad are you listening to? I hear the phrase, "I don't want to talk about it!" in Is It Scary, but NO where in either version of 2 Bad ...Too weird! :lol:
[youtube:10l0jnuw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUKH3bL5qu0[/youtube:10l0jnuw]
it's at 4:41...
where do you hear it in is it scary??...lol
EDIT: okay i just listened to is it scary and i hear where he says "i dont wanna talk about it" but he's not saying it the same way, it sounds different to me. when he says it in 2 bad just that one line at the end it sounds exactly the same to me. in IIS the emphasis is on "about" in these 2 songs the emphasis is on "wanna" ...you kinda get what i mean?
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Its Her, "I don't wanna talk about it" is the 2nd to very last ad lib in 2 Bad. He says it once, blink n' you miss it style.
I don't hear it in Is It Scary (?)
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Its Her, "I don't wanna talk about it" is the 2nd to very last ad lib in 2 Bad. He says it once, blink n' you miss it style.
I don't hear it in Is It Scary (?)
[youtube:1dm6o9rc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUOkze9C6ug[/youtube:1dm6o9rc]
i think the spot starts at 4:32 ;)
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The other songs, I haven't investigated in depth, yet. One thing I noticed in Behind The Mask, is something from Is It Scary: where he says over and over, "I don't want to talk about it!" I don't know what it means. There are no comments in gold writing, patchy or clear, preceding this one. I just thought I would mention this tidbit, for documentation purposes. We all can hear it, plainly.
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OMG i noticed that too!!! Right away when I heard him say that I paused it, rewound it, and I was like alright i KNOW i've heard that in another one of his songs before :lol: actually the song is 2 Bad. At the VERY end right before he goes "too bad, too bad about it" thats what he says in the exact same way.
And it looks like he uses another phrase from 2 bad in another song "It's just too much for me"
Hmm... does it mean something?? ;)
EDIT: oh! oh! and i ALSO noticed the "hoos" at the end of KYHU sounded very similar to the ones he does in Earth Song! ;) but only after the second or third time I listened did I notice that, whereas the phrases from 2 Bad I noticed instantly. So I'm wondering if maybe there are other times he does this that we just haven't noticed yet?? Him idk but it definitely means something IMO.
:? What version of 2 Bad are you listening to? I hear the phrase, "I don't want to talk about it!" in Is It Scary, but NO where in either version of 2 Bad ...Too weird! :lol:
[youtube:26c4b5f8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUKH3bL5qu0[/youtube:26c4b5f8]
it's at 4:41...
where do you hear it in is it scary??...lol
EDIT: okay i just listened to is it scary and i hear where he says "i dont wanna talk about it" but he's not saying it the same way, it sounds different to me. when he says it in 2 bad just that one line at the end it sounds exactly the same to me. in IIS the emphasis is on "about" in these 2 songs the emphasis is on "wanna" ...you kinda get what i mean?
I just pulled up the lyrics to 2 Bad... http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/2bad.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/2bad.html)
Look who just walked in the place
Dead and stuffy in the face
Look who's standing if you please
Though you tried to bring me to my knees
Interesting. Additionally, reference to throwing rocks in 2 Bad lyrics:
Told me that you're doin' wrong
Word out shockin' all alone
Cryin' wolf ain't like a man
Throwin' rocks to hide your hands
Throwing rocks reference in Behind the Mask:
I know you love me
but it's hard to see,
cuz when he's in your arms
you're throwing rocks at me,
who do you love?
Also, Hollywood reference in 2 Bad:
Hell all up in Hollywood
Sayin' that you got it good
Creepin' from a dusty hole
Tales of what somebody told
Multiple Hollywood references on Michael album, Hollywood Tonight [obviously], Monster, and I thought one more track?
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Add me to the group of fans loving the album. I was depressed at first, when the FULL album was leaked (as I'm typing this-I think it was leaked 7 days before the release...HOLY...)- but it was also one of the things that got me suspicious about who is leaking it and why.
I've always been suspicious about the drama and circus around the Cascio songs. There was just something WAY off there. The family jumping in like they did- the press coverage...the tweeting... it was- well, a great show, I think. Orchestrated by the greatest show-man on Earth.
I agree that all this was done to stir controversy and to direct fans to those three songs. Each of them has messages and cues galore. The rap in Monster is a goldmine, as are some lyrics in KYHU ("give yourself a chance-find the circumstance- rise and do it again"), also I wonder about Another Day (I know Lenny K wrote it- but still- it feels like a "I am sorry I had to walk away for now, I know you- the fans- make me strong..."). Breaking News, to me, is a masterpiece. Not just for the obvious message, but also for the fact he makes part of his mission clearn: Breaking <the> News (as he sings it in several instances).
Best of Joy is such a clear message of love, trust, and faith: "I am (we are) forever." Indeed, we are, love.
The live bit in Behind the Mask has confused me- but I just found the tread about it and I can think about it from another perspective now. I wish more fans would look BEHIND MICHAEL and stop being distracted- this is such an obvious master piece and such an obvious clue of Michael NOT being gone for good. It gave me great happyness!
Yes. Yes. YES!
MJ broke the album online because he is doing something here, and wants EVERYone to be able to have access to ALL of it, and be in on it, even if you haven't the money for it yet. :!: He is just the sweetest, most clever, MOST inclusive :D guy I EVER heard of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The other songs, I haven't investigated in depth, yet. One thing I noticed in Behind The Mask, is something from Is It Scary: where he says over and over, "I don't want to talk about it!" I don't know what it means. There are no comments in gold writing, patchy or clear, preceding this one. I just thought I would mention this tidbit, for documentation purposes. We all can hear it, plainly.
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OMG i noticed that too!!! Right away when I heard him say that I paused it, rewound it, and I was like alright i KNOW i've heard that in another one of his songs before :lol: actually the song is 2 Bad. At the VERY end right before he goes "too bad, too bad about it" thats what he says in the exact same way.
And it looks like he uses another phrase from 2 bad in another song "It's just too much for me"
Hmm... does it mean something?? ;)
EDIT: oh! oh! and i ALSO noticed the "hoos" at the end of KYHU sounded very similar to the ones he does in Earth Song! ;) but only after the second or third time I listened did I notice that, whereas the phrases from 2 Bad I noticed instantly. So I'm wondering if maybe there are other times he does this that we just haven't noticed yet?? Him idk but it definitely means something IMO.
:? What version of 2 Bad are you listening to? I hear the phrase, "I don't want to talk about it!" in Is It Scary, but NO where in either version of 2 Bad ...Too weird! :lol:
[youtube:5zxh06cl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUKH3bL5qu0[/youtube:5zxh06cl]
it's at 4:41...
where do you hear it in is it scary??...lol
EDIT: okay i just listened to is it scary and i hear where he says "i dont wanna talk about it" but he's not saying it the same way, it sounds different to me. when he says it in 2 bad just that one line at the end it sounds exactly the same to me. in IIS the emphasis is on "about" in these 2 songs the emphasis is on "wanna" ...you kinda get what i mean?
I just pulled up the lyrics to 2 Bad... http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/2bad.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/2bad.html)
Look who just walked in the place
Dead and stuffy in the face
Look who's standing if you please
Though you tried to bring me to my knees
Interesting. Additionally, reference to throwing rocks in 2 Bad lyrics:
Told me that you're doin' wrong
Word out shockin' all alone
Cryin' wolf ain't like a man
Throwin' rocks to hide your hands
Throwing rocks reference in Behind the Mask:
I know you love me
but it's hard to see,
cuz when he's in your arms
you're throwing rocks at me,
who do you love?
Also, Hollywood reference in 2 Bad:
Hell all up in Hollywood
Sayin' that you got it good
Creepin' from a dusty hole
Tales of what somebody told
Multiple Hollywood references on Michael album, Hollywood Tonight [obviously], Monster, and I thought one more track?
Thanks, you guys, for doing the legwork, here!! I was only listening to the songs I loaded into my computer from the original CDs. I'll take a good listen and view the video after work today! Gotta get it right. :D
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Doesnt he mention something about throwing rocks in Bad?
Like, Your talk is cheap, youre not a man. Youre throwing stones to hide your hands. Something like that right? ;)
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The other songs, I haven't investigated in depth, yet. One thing I noticed in Behind The Mask, is something from Is It Scary: where he says over and over, "I don't want to talk about it!" I don't know what it means. There are no comments in gold writing, patchy or clear, preceding this one. I just thought I would mention this tidbit, for documentation purposes. We all can hear it, plainly.
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OMG i noticed that too!!! Right away when I heard him say that I paused it, rewound it, and I was like alright i KNOW i've heard that in another one of his songs before :lol: actually the song is 2 Bad. At the VERY end right before he goes "too bad, too bad about it" thats what he says in the exact same way.
And it looks like he uses another phrase from 2 bad in another song "It's just too much for me"
Hmm... does it mean something?? ;)
EDIT: oh! oh! and i ALSO noticed the "hoos" at the end of KYHU sounded very similar to the ones he does in Earth Song! ;) but only after the second or third time I listened did I notice that, whereas the phrases from 2 Bad I noticed instantly. So I'm wondering if maybe there are other times he does this that we just haven't noticed yet?? Him idk but it definitely means something IMO.
:? What version of 2 Bad are you listening to? I hear the phrase, "I don't want to talk about it!" in Is It Scary, but NO where in either version of 2 Bad ...Too weird! :lol:
[youtube:zcct51h8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUKH3bL5qu0[/youtube:zcct51h8]
it's at 4:41...
where do you hear it in is it scary??...lol :arrow: I hear it, quite a few times (I think he MEANS it!!! :lol: :lol: ) @ 4:31 on the original CD, BOTDF
EDIT: okay i just listened to is it scary and i hear where he says "i dont wanna talk about it" but he's not saying it the same way, it sounds different to me. when he says it in 2 bad just that one line at the end it sounds exactly the same to me. in IIS the emphasis is on "about" in these 2 songs the emphasis is on "wanna" ...you kinda get what i mean?
I just pulled up the lyrics to 2 Bad... http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/2bad.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/2bad.html)
Look who just walked in the place
Dead and stuffy in the face
Look who's standing if you please
Though you tried to bring me to my knees
Interesting. Additionally, reference to throwing rocks in 2 Bad lyrics:
Told me that you're doin' wrong
Word out shockin' all alone
Cryin' wolf ain't like a man
Throwin' rocks to hide your hands
Throwing rocks reference in Behind the Mask:
I know you love me
but it's hard to see,
cuz when he's in your arms
you're throwing rocks at me,
who do you love?
Also, Hollywood reference in 2 Bad:
Hell all up in Hollywood
Sayin' that you got it good
Creepin' from a dusty hole
Tales of what somebody told
Multiple Hollywood references on Michael album, Hollywood Tonight [obviously], Monster, and I thought one more track?
Thanks, you guys, for doing the legwork, here!! I was only listening to the songs I loaded into my computer from the original CDs. I'll take a good listen and view the video after work today! Gotta get it right. :D
I DO hear it on this video, but very faint. I'll try to find it on the original and the remix. I believed you--I just thought it weird that it wasn't on mine. It's got to be, eh? ooooOOOoooo :shock: :lol:
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Doesnt he mention something about throwing rocks in Bad?
Like, Your talk is cheap, youre not a man. Youre throwing stones to hide your hands. Something like that right? ;)
You're right!
So the double reference to Bad. What does this mean in relation to Behind The Mask?
Brain cramp, frustration, aggravation, omg it's like a brain teaser puzzle... Michael you're killing me! :lol:
Ps. and what the heck doesn't he want to talk about?
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Everything comes back to the Bad era.
Behind the Mask should be a hit single, like best track on the album, and it's referencing back to Bad, twice, in the lyrics and the ad libs. The whole death thing links back to Bad era; music and photos. TII, vast majority from the Bad era. Everything points to this time repeatedly. What is it about this era that he wants to make such emphasis on? Is it simply reminding us of the time when he was at the peak of his global popularity or is there something more to it then that?
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I agree Bec!!
I do love the entire album but Behind The Mask is......amazing! I love the horns, the words and just everything about it. That song stuck in my head right from the start.
Now if we can just figure all this out. But I'm not going to worry too much I am having too much JOY just hearing all the tracks!
Dang The King IS Back!!!
We LOVE YOU MICHAEL!
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Here are some more sprinkles for your I Scream (for Mikey! :lol: ).
The very precisely paced (3 of them only) "Hee. Hee. Hee." in Breaking News @ 3:20 and 3:51, is also (only three "Hees") @ 5:12, in In The Closet. Not that this is earthshattering; he can certainly repeat something which really works, ANYWHERE he likes. 8-) Just thought I'd mention it, that no one he's ever worked with, would ever THINK to skillfully place these certain ad libs even if his life depended upon it to make a fake album fly as real. May I also say, I have never heard such a fresh album of 8-) KILLER songs---which was released after the artist died. While some people were expecting warmed up studio leftovers... I'm thinking THIS "dead" guy is NOT dead :!: :shock:
Ya THINK :?: :?: :D :D :D
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Here are some more sprinkles for your I Scream (for Mikey! :lol: ).
The very precisely paced (3 of them only) "Hee. Hee. Hee." in Breaking News @ 3:20 and 3:51, is also (only three "Hees") @ 5:12, in In The Closet. Not that this is earthshattering; he can certainly repeat something which really works, ANYWHERE he likes. 8-) Just thought I'd mention it, that no one he's ever worked with, would ever THINK to skillfully place these certain ad libs even if his life depended upon it to make a fake album fly as real. May I also say, I have never heard such a fresh album of 8-) KILLER songs---which was released after the artist died. While some people were expecting warmed up studio leftovers... I'm thinking THIS "dead" guy is NOT dead :!: :shock:
Ya THINK :?: :?: :D :D :D
Ya THINK!? :lol:
Yep yep Killer!! I think the 3 Cascio tracks are very fresh, very different and for that I appreciate Michael more.
Caught the "hee hee hee" thanks for finding where they sounded like.
Nope he's alive and kickin' somewhere! A place with no name!
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Here are some more sprinkles for your I Scream (for Mikey! :lol: ).
The very precisely paced (3 of them only) "Hee. Hee. Hee." in Breaking News @ 3:20 and 3:51, is also (only three "Hees") @ 5:12, in In The Closet. Not that this is earthshattering; he can certainly repeat something which really works, ANYWHERE he likes. 8-) Just thought I'd mention it, that no one he's ever worked with, would ever THINK to skillfully place these certain ad libs even if his life depended upon it to make a fake album fly as real. May I also say, I have never heard such a fresh album of 8-) KILLER songs---which was released after the artist died. While some people were expecting warmed up studio leftovers... I'm thinking THIS "dead" guy is NOT dead :!: :shock:
Ya THINK :?: :?: :D :D :D
This is exactly my way of thinking. IMHO no way are these songs completely old - I mean that they have been 'touched up' by MJ recently.
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I got mine on pre-order as well and it came before xmas.
I have LISTENED, LISTENED AND LISTENED to it probably 30 times by now
Here is my report on it
Hold My Hand - At first i didnt care for it. I personally dont like Akon, dont like him, dont really like his voice. I thought he sang way too much in the song and not enough Michael at all. However the more i listened i liked it. I like the "ohohoh" parts the best i think. It does have a tune that just gets stuck in my head. Because Michael is in the song however i think it is why i warmed up to it. Not the best but certainly not the worst.
Hollywood Tonight - I like it. Very different! Has almost a hip hop vibe and i totally dont care for that stuff but it is nice to listen to for sure. You can clearly hear Michael's strong vocals
Keep Your Head Up - I hear both Michael Jackson and different singer on this song (backup singer?) Really like it very much. Makes you "feel good" for sure. I like the choir part too. Michael always liked adding that in some of his songs.
(I Like) The Way You Love Me - Love it!!! Michael's beautiful voice is heard throughout this entire peice and i adore the lyrics and meaning to it. This is one i always hit the repeat button on.
Monster - This one scared me a bit. Honestly not my favourite but it is a pretty fun song.
Best of Joy - This song gives me goosebumps. Iam a hopeless romantic and this song is stunningly beautiful. While yes it does have that 80's feel i love music from that era so iam just in love with this one. I think if released 25 years ago it could have been a number 1 hit. JMO!!!
Breaking News - Extremely catchy tune, wonderful rhythm, great lyrics and meaning. Michael is sick of the crap. Truly i think this is an eye opener. Hello people BREAKING NEWS...These words will be heard again in the near future on the Tv. No doubt about it. For anyone that is sitting on the fence and not a believer you need to wake up the truth is in front of us.
(I Can't Make It) Another Day - Very nice song and i think Lenny Kravitz and Michael sound good together. Starts off softer and quiet and then has that rock edge to it. Almost reminds me of "Give into Me" in certain parts.
Behind The Mask - I honestly had never heard of this song...dont know what to think of it really. Is this a LIVE performace or did they just put in the screaming fans for it?
It is totally Michael. Sounds like the thriller era as mentioned before. Dont love it, but dont hate it either
Much Too Soon - Hands down this one is my favourites. Really pulls at your heart. The music and the lyrics are a masterpiece!!! There is no mistaking Michael's angelic voice on this one. It is absolutely insanly stunning. I love songs with emotion
So with that being said iam very happy with the album and iam not arguing with anyone. It is Michael 100% for sure. While some song may not sound like the thriller or bad era Michael some of you are SOOO hung up on. It is him. Michael could sing the telephone book. It doesnt matter. He can do ballads, rock, pop, high pitches, soft, low, you name it. His range is incredible. Michael would not allow anything but himself to be on an album. Anything else would be crazy. This is the death hoax forum folks. It is supposed to be for believers. If you dont believe he is alive then i dont have anything to say to you.
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Here are some more sprinkles for your I Scream (for Mikey! :lol: ).
The very precisely paced (3 of them only) "Hee. Hee. Hee." in Breaking News @ 3:20 and 3:51, is also (only three "Hees") @ 5:12, in In The Closet. Not that this is earthshattering; he can certainly repeat something which really works, ANYWHERE he likes. 8-) Just thought I'd mention it, that no one he's ever worked with, would ever THINK to skillfully place these certain ad libs even if his life depended upon it to make a fake album fly as real. May I also say, I have never heard such a fresh album of 8-) KILLER songs---which was released after the artist died. While some people were expecting warmed up studio leftovers... I'm thinking THIS "dead" guy is NOT dead :!: :shock:
Ya THINK :?: :?: :D :D :D
Say, I forgot to mention, before, that I thought I found a REAL genuine fresh, absolutely NEW ad lib, when I heard him do these same "hee"s FOUR times. Then I found them on one of the Jacksons (live) albums; song: Things I Do For You.. :|
You know, all of the ad libs and grunts and sqeaks and squeals, and :lol: rebel yells, he's EVER done are probably recorded, to just be plugged in appropriately by MJ, who is the ONLY one who hears it inside his head and knows where something goes...
If any of you could find ONE thing that we all are unable to find recorded anywhere in his history, NO one on the planet could deny he is alive! Knowing that mischievous 8-) scoundrel, as we do, I bet he could NOT resist slipping something personal and totally NEW in on this album somewhere!! We have probably all heard it already, and thought, "Hmmm, that's new..." :shock: . Let's FIND it :!: :!:
That said, what about this: Has anyone ever, EVER heard MJ do a Middle Eastern sounding "riff" or improvisation? Oh, my gosh! This (in Breaking News) sent chills up and down my spine the first time! Still does! :D I LOVE this song! It is also like a gentler version of ---DO NOT LAFF--- :oops: the "call" TARZAN used to do, before he swung IN :!: :!: :!: on a vine, only in four notes instead of five! Yes, :oops: I have been snorting too much hoax dust. And so have YOU! :o :lol: