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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 01, 2010, 08:14:55 PM
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has to be talking about the stuff that shakes your house when someone drives down the street in a car with this stuff on :roll:  :lol:  either that or the celtic stuff. my husband likes this it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and not in a good way. :lol:
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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 01, 2010, 10:26:04 PM
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432Hz Song for you  :D

[youtube:2n518z9g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNpyjrW-qPo[/youtube:2n518z9g]
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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 02, 2010, 01:19:55 PM
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[youtube:2zbuv1rm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNpyjrW-qPo[/youtube:2zbuv1rm]

 :D  :D  :D

This explains why this song (and most all his songs) gives me goosebumps and makes me feel pure love. It's as if nothing else matters but the song. You're completely IN it. As opposed to having it just be in the background. Music is not meant to be in the background. We are meant to be in it, to be an active participant in the song. So that after the song ends, we are just a little bit different, a little bit better, than before listening to it. This is what Michael means when he says he feels completely "nourished" by it...  :)
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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 02, 2010, 01:30:52 PM
Thanks for sharing Sarahli , Ive never heard about this at all before
Since its hard for me to understand all these english words lol , I googled it and found a lot of articles about it , Thanks

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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 02, 2010, 01:40:28 PM
I do not want to oppose you guys views in this just for the sake of it, ok? Always with the love :) But my understanding here is that the song has been TRANSPOSED to 432, being the original tuning A440. Not saying the MJ's music does not transport me to places where very few other musicians have ever been able to though :)

I'm just not convinced that tuning to 440 produces negative music. Anytime we sing a song a capella, we can be singing to 440 or any other frequency without being really aware of it (unless you have perfect pitch of course). I just can't get my head around as to how 440 is less natural than other frequencies given that all sounds exist in nature! Take a guitar and play an A, then move down to G# in a glissando and you will have gone through all frequencies from 450 to 415. In Asian music, all this mini intervals in a semitone  in our western system can be part of the music -we mostly just use 12 notes but they can employ other sounds that exist 'in between' these notes, and their music still beautiful so...

I will definitely be doing some more reading on this subject though! :)
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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 02, 2010, 02:26:53 PM
I actually don't have an argument against this, because there's so much we don't know. I'm wondering where Rockefeller back in the early 20's would have this kind of knowledge. I'll be a loonie and say maybe it connects with so much I've been reading about contact with aliens (such as what goes on at Area 51 and below Denver airport), that they may have given much of our very advanced technology to us at various key times, in exchange for things they wish from us humans.  :( Their knowledge goes back to ancient times, since UFO's have been around for thousands of years. Somewhat related is the mytery of the building of the pyramids done through some type of anti-gravity devices, as well as Edward Leedskalnin's Coral Castle in Florida You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. I've always heard it relates to sound frequency. Just by a quick look-up here's one post where some guy talks about 600 Hz for anti-gravity. Makes sense if this could affect atomic structure, music at specific Hz could affect our emotions, minds etc.  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

I've always loved Dr. Henry Makow. He has tons of excellent articles on NWO, other conspiracies, sexual influences in our culture.

Finally there is one interview where Michael talks about how music affects plants and animals and how they respond. Does anyone know where that is to post it? All I know is MJ's music thrills me to the core of my being and I "can't stop till I get enough". :D  :D  :D  And it makes me feel lighter, too. :lol:
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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 02, 2010, 03:26:32 PM
At least we can agree to say that music (frequencies) affects us emotionally in a way or the other and if it can affect us in the right way I think it can also affects us in the wrong way. In all things there is the bad side and the good side. Maybe not specifically with the 440Hz frequency  :lol:  I really don't know about that one!  
Thank you all for your answers. God bless you.
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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 03, 2010, 12:54:32 AM
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Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?

"This unnatural standard tuning frequency, removed from the symmetry of sacred vibrations and overtones, has declared war on the subconscious mind of Western Man."

by L. C. Vincent
(for henrymakow.com)

Prologue

Vibration throughout the frequency spectrum of sound, heat, and light, is the organizational principle of matter.  Sound is the organizational principle of our Universe, of physical matter and most importantly, living matter.

The science of Cymatics illustrates that when sound waves move thru a physical medium (air, water, sand, metallic particles, etc.) the frequency of the waves has a direct effect upon the structures which are created by the sound waves as they pass thru that particular medium.  YouTube videos show these fascinating patterns and arrangements here:


[youtube:36tfh5us]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtiSCBXbHAg[/youtube:36tfh5us]

Sound is also the basis for form and shape:

[youtube:36tfh5us]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Io6lop3mk&feature=related[/youtube:36tfh5us]

CONSPIRACY

Imagine an incredibly powerful, wealthy person who secretly prospers from conflict, disease and war learns that certain sound frequencies (those easily divisible by two, signifying opposition) create conflict, discord and disharmony while those divisible by three  (signifying balance, polity, reconciliation, harmony) produce symmetry, and visually harmonic, pleasing structures.

Now imagine that he has the power to establish the tuning standard of all musical instruments throughout the Western World.

Imagine that he bases the entire scale of musical artistic creation upon a frequency which would skew vibrations towards discord.

It sounds like science fiction.  Yet this is exactly what transpired in September 1939 when Rockefeller (Illuminati) financial interests dictated that the standard tuning for the note of "A" above middle C would henceforth be said to vibrate at precisely 440 cycles per second.  

This unnatural standard tuning frequency, removed from the symmetry of sacred vibrations and overtones, has declared war on the subconscious mind of Western Man.

The standard tuning fork, which is set to vibrate the note "A" above middle C at 440 cycles per second, is based upon a frequency only divisible by two rather than three, which means that all of the musical notes both above and below it are affected.

Despite the apparent "sweet music" a symphony orchestra can produce, when all instruments are tuned based on the A=440Hz key frequency, they are covert weapons no matter what "music" they may be playing.

These destructive frequencies entrain the thoughts towards disruption, disharmony, disunity.  Additionally, they also stimulate the controlling organ of the body -- the brain -- into disharmonious resonance, which ultimately creates disease and war.

"MILITARIZATION OF MUSIC"

In a paper entitled "Musical Cult Control," Dr. Leonard Horowitz writes:  

The music industry "...features this imposed frequency that is 'herding' populations into greater aggression, psycho social agitation, and emotional distress predisposing people to physical illness...." while the agents of this conspiracy provide 'therapeutic' pacification in the form of myriad psychotropic drugs and tranquilizers for the stress they purposely created, and chemotherapy for the more serious illnesses it inspires."

He says, "Energy (vibration) impacts "life" (biology) and our bodies through the most common medium of life:  water.  Our body weight, which is nearly 80 percent water, vibrates and resonates to frequencies, and frequencies entrain our physical matter as well as thought processes.  Light and sound have been shown as the primary drivers of intercellular communication, which indicates that our health, or lack of it, may indeed by a product of the vibrational resonance of sound and light."

As noted, the Rothschild-Rockefeller (Illuminati) alliance chose "....to determine the musical factors capable of producing psycho pathology, emotional distress and 'mass hysteria.'"

BAD VERSUS GOOD VIBRATIONS

The initial effort to make A=440 Hz the basis of standard tuning took place in 1910 when the Rockefeller Foundation issued a grant to the American Federation of Musicians to popularize the concept.  The initial effort failed.

However, the BSI -- British Standards Institute -- officially adopted A=440 Hz in 1939, promoted by the strange consortium of Rockefeller Foundation influence and the Nazi government.  Ironically, The British adopted a tuning standard promoted by the Third Reich, just as both went to war.  While 440Hz had been rejected by British musicians only 3 months prior, Josef Goebbels persuaded the BSI to adapt 440Hz saying it was of extraordinary importance.

As Dr. Leonard Horowitz concludes:  "Music bioenergetically affects your body chemistry, psycho  neuro immunology, and health.  Your body is now vibrating musically, audibly and subliminally, according to an institutionally imposed frequency in harmony with aggression and in dissonance rather than vibrating in harmony with Love."  

Musical instrument tuning using the artificially imposed standard of A=440Hz may promote physical and mental disease and distrust, while effectively suppressing spirituality, intuition and creativity.  This universal tuning frequency has been empirically shown to suppress the creative, intuitive aspects of our mind, while negatively affecting our body chemistry and our immune systems.

CONCLUSION

I don't know if anyone can prove a direct link between aggression, disassociation, paranoia and violence to a tuning system that was promoted by both the Rockefellers and the Third Reich. However, just the fact that these two entities came together to push this standard is more than suspicious in my mind.

Although more than a few people have made the connection between the music of John Philip Sousa and his marching music as a stimulus to war, that specific link is in reference to composition, not frequency and vibration based on a tuning system.

"Intuitively, I think my sources are correct.  But how does one go about proving that a specific frequency tuning is creating social stress, disharmony or physical violence and war?  But the fact that the Rockefellers and the Third Reich pushed this tuning standard over the opposition of British musicians makes it suspicious, even sinister."

The Rockefeller--Illuminati axis, their money and research, imposed this artificial tuning "standard" upon Mankind for the purpose of creating chaos. It continues to this day to funnel our minds and emotions along paths of negativity.  It is high time for new, good vibrations to become ascendant and a "new standard" of vibrational tuning to emerge.   It is time for the power of Love to triumph!
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L C Vincent
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I'm not a specialist and really cannot say much about the accuracy of this information and the author also concludes that the direct link is difficult to make but the interest of the Rockfeller and the Nazis in this subject is suspicious enough to raise questions. There is a connection between our body, our soul and the frequencies around us, I have no doubt about that. We know that the Illuminati control the Music Industry so the 'authorized' music and here we see that they even may control the frequency. Meaning that they don't 'just' put symbols in videos etc.


Oh, yeah. THIS is exactly how people on the H.A.A.R.P. Project manipulated a herd of moose to, as a herd, (all means all!) begin to WALK BACKWARDS, on the plain where they had been just grazing or hanging out like moose DO.

They aimed their e.l.f.--designer frequencies at a herd of ANIMALS, to rule out personal resistence, or choice of volition.  Oh, YEAH, this is a powerful weapon. In the H.A.A.R.P. awareness seminars I attended years ago, they seemed to be using ultra low frequencies---it was explained to me as meaning beyond human hearing; the sound you almost hear at the very very low end of the a.m. dial on a radio, in additon to certain expressions of sound we can hear...It was all too deep for me! I don't understand how one can measure the Hz, to know which to use or how to utilize this----but rest assured----THERE ARE UNSCRUPULOUS PEOPLE WHO DO!!  :o

Just as a side trip; you know Lucifer was the original minister of music, in the heavenlies, with musical instruments built into his body.....he used his one power to create iniquity  :twisted: using MUSIC as a  :x weapon, instead of using it to bless and fill heaven with melody...  :(

But he's not the final, ULTIMATE authority, any more than the evil queen's poison apple trumped the plan of Snow White's Prince.  :D


Here is the thing I want to say here about this (AMAZING DISCOVERY, BTW :!:  8-) ). I have suspected for some time, now, that when Michael Jackson was quoted as saying that "This will be the greatest

 DEMONSTRATION

of Freedom in History"...he MEANT he actually WAS, INDEED, demonstrating something, some device, some contraption, some trickery, ON US---on everyone who was watching him die on the news June 25th...

Now, wait, before you get all indignant, and protest that our Sweety would NEVER---- :o  :?  :x  :evil:  :cry:

YES HE WOULD, and...furthermore,

 he IS.

He NEEDS to :!:  8-)

If you believe the message---that he is trying to make us SEE---then, you KNOW that we wouldn't even believe him if he did NOT demonstrate this on us :roll:  :!:  :!:  :!:

You KNOW it! It is a hard pill to swallow that none of your most cherished thoughts about a loved one are not your own...

Many people HAVE been questioning their own thoughts, though. All over the web, fans and non fans have been asking themselves

 "WHY" :?  :oops:  :cry:  :?:  :?:

["Why am I bawling like this over someone I never knew?"   :?

"Why am I still crying a year later?"

 "Why has this entertainer disrupted my entire life all year? What hold does he have over me---I can't explain it to my husband!!?"  :roll:  :oops:    :P  :P  :P  :?

"You want to marry MJ? Me too!" (side trip, again: when would this EVER be something to be joyful about; the potential sharing of a husband... :? )

Why are billions of women who haven't followed him since the eighties, back in mad passionate loooove with the guy???]  :?  :o  :lol:

WHY does a fifty2 (now :) ) year old man, have gals from 10 to 60 (so far, whose :|  :roll:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :shock:  :?  :oops:  :lol:  posts I personally have read) explaining in GREAT gorey detail, what sexual things they'd love to do to him if they ever got him alone, or with others on the site(!)

 :?: WHY :?:

When I first stumbled upon this type of post, MJ had just died. I lambasted these girls for being disrespectful of someone I loved, and for being necromancers! :x  :o   :oops:  :oops:  :P  :P I accused them of feeding upon his corpse. :?  :oops:  :roll: I was so offended...But they were ALL out of control---

And SO was I!  :o  :lol:

THIS is NOT normal grieving. Uh...

Think about it--- were all crying harder than ANY of his immediate family. :roll:  :oops:  :o

My own mother had just died. She was (IS) my favorite person in the entire universe. I didn't even know Michael Jackson, beyond being some hot, all made-up publicity-stunt celebrity-guy, who coincidentally ;)  :D  was the soundtrack to all our lives ... from my youth. The time he died, it was close of day, here, so, I was trying to drive home from work and had to stop the car, because I was crying so hard I couldn't SEE or even breathe, to drive...It was REAL. My heart was broken.

 But...uh...WHY?

HOW did HE get in there, inside my heart to the point that his demise shattered every feeling I had? Many many of you did the same thing, and also thought it was bizarre--but then, we all told ourselves, "Hey, this is Michael Jackson---he's been a household word in my FAMILY all my life---he IS family----THAT'S why". Oh. Ok. Signed, sealed, delivered. ALL without you suspecting a thing. :shock:  ;)


SOME thing ELSE is going on...and, THIS IS IT.

Mind control. On such a scale we would NEVER believe it, UNLESS he was able to do it to us (albeit , in a way harmless way--such as MAKING us beLIEve we love him).

It is ingenius :!:  :!:  :lol: We would NEVER suspect---because we already thought we DID love him. :)  :?  When it all goes way over the top, we'll all just think it is because of our loss. But...we believe he's alive---he HOAXED his death, now...WHY are we still so emotional about him??? WHAT is going on?

I THINK it is this: The Greatest Demonstration of Freedom in history...when he reappears, or stops the "transmission of the "MAJOR LOVE-RAY frequency",  :shock:  :lol: we will INSTANTLY know it--that it WAS an outside influence---and then, believing him, now,  he just has to tell us (what he has discovered about)  HOW we can become immune /protect ourselves, from this kind of weaponry EVER being used on us again. :)  :mrgreen: Think about this. I''m sure this is IT. He is doing this.  :idea:  :D
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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 03, 2010, 02:06:26 AM
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So true! MJ has his sound weapon and he knows how to use it. I'm one of his victims :lol:

I just thought of a Doctor Oz show a few weeks ago where he had some guy come on who could break a wine glass with the right frequency and tone of sound, as shown here:
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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 03, 2010, 04:35:49 AM
Great post Its Her.

You're maybe right, one of the purpose of this hoax is to show how impressionable we can be. This is really to show us the incredible power of the media. This is one of the biggest lesson that I've learned since the day Michael 'died', even if I knew before and was the kind of person to say don't believe everything you read or see, that day I was really not happy with myself because when crying Michael's 'death' I understood that I had walked into the trap. And not only because this is a fake death but also because this pain and these tears were for a person I never met in all my life! Michael you got me!  :lol:  We can have pain of course but to a certain extent only. Lesson learned.
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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 04, 2010, 04:05:20 PM
but there are no sound waves        he's only been feeding us information  ;)
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 05, 2010, 07:48:29 AM
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but there are no sound waves        he's only been feeding us information  ;)

How do we KNOW there "are" (currently, ongoing, now :o )no sound waves?  EVERY sound wave isn't detectable by human hearing...think: dog whistles. :shock:  :?  :lol:  It could be something undetectable on his CDs. It could be a certain tempo of a beat--I've heard matching heart rhythms works this way...Many many of his songs have an unmistakeable crack of a whip in them, metronome-like, in the background. Hypnotic. He always SAID he would put his soul into his music...

It boggles my mind :o  to try to IMAGINE how he could be doing this---I mean from what point on earth could sound control hundreds of billions of people? Satellite? Through your cell?

Yet, we have seen it over and over in science fiction. Remember that Star Trek 8-) episode where there is some funny business going on in one of the colonies where there is a prison or psychiatric prison or something, and they are having such rousing success, rehabilitating even the most unmanageable prisoners?

The story begins with a distress signal, and the guy they beam up is SO compromised, and controlled by something, all he can say is, "My name is---Aaarrrrgh! :x  I am from-----Aaaargh! :x " much to the frustration of Captain Kirk and the rest. The patient they have beamed up to the ship is not a patient at all, but the inventor of a machine having a "beam"which causes intense pain when certain lines (drawn mentally by this device) are crossed. Captain Kirk sends himself and others as a landing party to investigate this abuse of patients. All seems very well. The patients are not locked up, but walk freely, and are docile, open and honest about their problems which were healed by Dr. So and So (who is now the basketcase the Enterprise beamed up!).

I haven't seen Star Trek in ages, so I may have some things mixed up, here, but the main point of the episode is mind control by this beam the hospital has. Some rogue patient has taken control and used the device ON Dr. VanGhelder (I believe is his name, now that I think about it).

This beam is able to wipe away ALL individual thought, including memories, and is able to even plant fake memories, too. Does anyone remember this episode?

CLASSIC Star Trek :!:  :!:   8-)


Captain Kirk receives a cooperative tour of the facility, and they decide all is well, until something happens to make him not feel quite right about things and he decides to take another look at the "device", WITHOUT any of the hospital staff---only a lady Dr. in the landing party, with whom he has some "history" (is there a woman with whom Captain Kirk does NOT have "history"?? ;)  :lol: )which makes it "interesting".

Anyway, she's the doctor, knowing SOMEthing--- :? not very much--about the technology, so HE gets to be the guinea pig. He sits in the chair and she is instructed to turn on the beam. "Nothing happened", he says.  :?  She said SOMEthing happened---his face went COMPLETELY  :shock: vacant and blank. He said to try some simple suggestion imput. So she turns it on again, long enough to say,  "You are hungry".

He rubs his hands together and says,  :D anticipatorily chuckling,  "Boy, I could eat a horse! Can't wait to get back to the ship" (or something like that). He thinks he is just making conversation while she uses the beam on him, but SHE knows  :o it was HER suggestion he had thought was his own. She turns him around and says, "I PUT that suggestion in your mind--just now---I did!"

Kirk is immediately sober :|  and alarmed at the full implication of that device's possibilities. But, he is still SO certain that it was his OWN thought of being hungry, ---still unconvinced that someone could PUT their thoughts into his head and have them FEEL like his own---that he tells her to do it again, this time with a HARMLESS suggestion which could in NO way be true for him. He tells her to make something up... ;)

She retells a story of the two of them at a Christmas party, and says what really did happen, THEN, but that now, she is suggesting that things happened a DIFFERENT way, changing historical memory of this event for him. She suggests that he was IN LOVE WITH HER, couldn't get enough of her and that they had kissed (or something like that).

She stops the beam and he is completely unaware that ANYthing has happened to him. he begins to grab her and maul her and tries to kiss her :roll: , and no matter HOW she protests that she made it all up---he insists that he remembers it JUST LIKE THAT. I can't remember HOW she convinces him that it is the mind control device that welded this thought to his mind...

You know, Captain Kirk has been endowed by his creator, with such a strong intellect and other heroic features that he is usually able to use these powers to shake the things off, which enslave other men! ;)  :lol:  :lol: So, I probably can't remember this because it was one such a cop-out----sorry. It was decades ago that I saw this last. :oops:  :( Perhaps she slapped him silly for mauling her and THAT reset ;)  his thinking... :shock:  :lol:  :lol:  :roll: So sorry---I just can't remember. :?

The point is: how mysteriously LIKE what I believe MJ is doing to us NOW!!! OMG!! EVEN right down to the  :idea: suggestion he is using on ALL of us!  :arrow:  :arrow:  :arrow: That we are desperately in LOVE with him :!:  :!:  :lol:  

Harmless, yet, definitely interruptive :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  in each of our general daily lives...



[You know, MJ it is really NOT :x  funny. I have had an attractive, single doctor, these last 14 months, who, incidentally told me he needs a wife...whom I have not been able to date, because every time I'm in his office THRILLER (NO LIE, Dude) comes on the radio which he has on in there. I feel like I am being dogged by you, or betraying a lover, even going to the guy!! :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :P  :P  :P  :P  :lol:  When will this end?????? Let me go, Lover.   :oops:   :) ]
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Re: Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?
September 05, 2010, 11:30:39 AM
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[You know, MJ it is really NOT :x  funny. I have had an attractive, single doctor, these last 14 months, who, incidentally told me he needs a wife...whom I have not been able to date, because every time I'm in his office THRILLER (NO LIE, Dude) comes on the radio which he has on in there. I feel like I am being dogged by you, or betraying a lover, even going to the guy!! :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :P  :P  :P  :P  :lol:  When will this end?????? Let me go, Lover.   :oops:   :) ]

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