Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Serenitys_Dream on November 26, 2009, 02:25:41 AM
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Deleted TNZ is fake they are hoaxing us!
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Great! Interesting! :shock: 28 more days to go! :D
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there is something going on in my head for a while but I cannot put my finger on it. Sometimes I even think I lost my mind cause I seem to come to conclusions beyond logic. And still, things DO ad up.
In your post take also into consideration that the special TII trailer was published by TNZ before TII was released. Is there any way they could have known before the release of TII that there would be something after credits?
And the way they speak and give answers to comments...
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Maybe I´m confused...but please tell me what is TNZ? I dont find any website of it.. I just know TMZ. :roll:
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Maybe I´m confused...but please tell me what is TNZ? I dont find any website of it.. I just know TMZ. :roll:
TNZ = True News Zone
See the first links in Serenity's post
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yea, but they got no official site dont they? i mean myspace and twitter are not a typical site for a newspaper or even an authentic newsmaker. or am i still confused? :)
sorry for that, but the myspace site is completely overloaded and looks kind of trashy.
I can´t believe in that... :roll:
What do you think?
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They are very good with their blogs and you can definitely tell they put a lot of effort and dedication in their work and what they present us with. Good for TNZ(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/cool.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) They are very interesting indeed! (http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz114/nessyj79/s_secret.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/popcorn.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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I hope it is with christmas! BEST GIFT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! <333333333
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First time I saw that video I got like this :shock:
The same with the date of the magazine :shock:
Michael was/ is a dancer. He can be 51 but moves really like a 20 years old boy!
Still can´t believe he is gone :( can TNZ be right about the x-mas come back?
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if it is christmas day i hope i dont choke on my turkey
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yea, but they got no official site dont they? i mean myspace and twitter are not a typical site for a newspaper or even an authentic newsmaker. or am i still confused? :)
sorry for that, but the myspace site is completely overloaded and looks kind of trashy.
I can´t believe in that... :roll:
What do you think?
TNZ (The True News Zone) is not an official news agency. This is an independent news source that has been created to address the Michael Jackson supposed `Death Hoax`. In my opinion, the person or people behind this myspace and Twitter are deeply connected to what is going on. It could even be Michael himsel. What better disguise could he have than to be a form of media, a news source which mimics the tabloid sensationalist of the like of TMZ.
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I hope it is with christmas! BEST GIFT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! <333333333
I think there is a lot more information on TNZ`s site than just a return date...
One problem I have noticed is everyone has stopped asking WHY and is only focusing on the WHEN. I believe that the `why has this happened` & `what is the meaning of all this` are just as important as the `when is MJ coming back`.
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I hope it is with christmas! BEST GIFT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! <333333333
I think there is a lot more information on TNZ`s site than just a return date...
One problem I have noticed is everyone has stopped asking WHY and is only focusing on the WHEN. I believe that the `why has this happened` & `what is the meaning of all this` are just as important as the `when is MJ coming back`.
agree with you! the why is very important!
and serenity, thanks for posting this ;)
i've wondered also who's behind TNZ..
they seem to know a lot of stuff!
the blogs are very interesting and i always love to read them!
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Deleted. TNZ is garbage!
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In my opinion, the person or people behind this myspace and Twitter are deeply connected to what is going on. It could even be Michael himsel. What better disguise could he have than to be a form of media, a news source which mimics the tabloid sensationalist of the like of TMZ.
That is exactly the feeling ZI had when I first read their blog. Since then I came back and read over and over their posts and cannot shake that feeling. Since there are so many "fake" MJ's over the net these days I felt like I was loosing my mind and start seeing things that are not there :lol: . I am sort of relieved that I am not the only one with that feeling
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if it is christmas day i hope i dont choke on my turkey
You made me giggles! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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When I watched the movie 2012, I noted that Africa was the only land not destroyed worldwide. Also in the past I have done a LOT of research in the area of who the real ancient Isrealites were, they were black-skinned, as well as the ancient Egyptians (MJ's Remember the Time video), lots of documented evidence. See www.hebrewisraelites.org (http://www.hebrewisraelites.org) for lots details. The Afro-americans are the lost Israelties. Also 400 years slavery. Jesus was black-skinned. MJ does indeed look like that Egyptian bust. This hoax is bigger than we can imagine, and older than we can imagine. God has written an unimaginable beautiful, layered complex story, HIStory, and I love it all. It will all unfold as planned. I'm thankful to live in this year of time to be a witness!!!
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This is awesome... :o I'm having goosebumps
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What has all this to do with Michael Jackson?
I don´t get it.
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That statue really looks like Michael. :shock:
Is it just me or is that Time cover really hot! I like his lips in that picture. :oops:
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What has all this to do with Michael Jackson?
I don´t get it.
hmmm...this is all about Michael Jackson. The myspace, the twitter, all the pictures. all their blogs are all about Michael Jackson so what aren't you getting
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What has all this to do with Michael Jackson?
I don´t get it.
hmmm...this is all about Michael Jackson. The myspace, the twitter, all the pictures. all their blogs are all about Michael Jackson so what aren't you getting
The HebrewIsraelite´s site.
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What has all this to do with Michael Jackson?
I don´t get it.
hmmm...this is all about Michael Jackson. The myspace, the twitter, all the pictures. all their blogs are all about Michael Jackson so what aren't you getting
The HebrewIsraelite´s site.
I haven't looked at that site myself but I think the poster is making a point in how the Egyptians may have been black and that Jesus may have been black etc. This links back to the Eygptian bust and THE CUSH area in Africa which TNZ is suggesting Michael has some interest in.
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Here is an interesting piece from one of TNZ's Blog. I suggest that if you haven't read them than do so and if you have maybe reread them!
CHRISTMAS COMING SOON. Do Not Read If You Plan To Be Surprised.
As we previously stated, on September 3rd everybody witnessed mighty brilliant Funeral Performance directed by Mr. Michael Joseph Jackson and based on eternal Biblical Scenario "Last Supper". All that fully demonstrated cultural and philosophical meaning of the happening. If we just extrapolate the plot, we will clearly see that Mr. Jackson aka a la Jesus Christ plays the role of the newest messiah.
Therefore, we have all the reason to expect Rebirth or Resurrection and Christmas perfectly suit it.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse (http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse) ... =513654361
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Thanks!
hhmmmmmm......was talk bout that back in July I remember.
Well, I respect everyones opinions but I do not share or agree :)
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Thanks!
hhmmmmmm......was talk bout that back in July I remember.
Well, I respect everyones opinions but I do not share or agree :)
I also respect your opinion and believe we must all listen to our hearts and realize that we have all been gifted with
freedom of choice too.
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I am also hoping someone can explain to me why this particular picture looks the way it does...
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/phpio451pPM.jpg)
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Looks like a photo montage!
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When I watched the movie 2012, I noted that Africa was the only land not destroyed worldwide. Also in the past I have done a LOT of research in the area of who the real ancient Isrealites were, they were black-skinned, as well as the ancient Egyptians (MJ's Remember the Time video), lots of documented evidence. See http://www.hebrewisraelites.org (http://www.hebrewisraelites.org) for lots details. The Afro-americans are the lost Israelties. Also 400 years slavery. Jesus was black-skinned. MJ does indeed look like that Egyptian bust. This hoax is bigger than we can imagine, and older than we can imagine. God has written an unimaginable beautiful, layered complex story, HIStory, and I love it all. It will all unfold as planned. I'm thankful to live in this year of time to be a witness!!!
Your post has me thinking some more...
Liberian Girl has been so prominent in this whole thing I wanted to point out that Liberia is in Africa too.
`The name Liberia denotes "liberty". This country was `Founded as a colony by the American Colonization Society in 1821-22, it was created as a place for slaves freed in the United States to emigrate to in Africa, on the premise they would have greater freedom and equality there.`
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia)
[youtube:2we70bqs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ethtD4R1kk[/youtube:2we70bqs]
Maybe there are clues in either the Lyrics or the video for `Remember the Time` Michael`s Eygptian themed mini-movie.
[youtube:2we70bqs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWPmOdjEtxs[/youtube:2we70bqs]
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I got that picture from This is it trailer.
(http://i99.servimg.com/u/f99/14/49/17/82/th1111.jpg)
It's where they got the series of black and white pictures. IMHO those BW pictures are not an evidence. They could have used pictures from previous videos as well.
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Thank you for the links SERENITY.
Remember the Baseball Pic. clue, Baseball game season is 180 days and 180 days is approximately 6 months, so from June 25 - 180 days later would be around December 25 (I posted this in the old forum). So, I think Michael will come out and reveal himself around Christmas day.
Regarding the Egyptian Bust that looks like Michael, remember the History Album, in the pamphlet that goes with it, on page 31, Michael's Egyptian bust is there with a bird which I think is a Phoenix.
With Remember The Time, I checked the lyrics and the country that was mentioned there is Spain. I don't know if there's some meaning to it.
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Thank you for the links SERENITY.
Remember the Baseball Pic. clue, Baseball game season is 180 days and 180 days is approximately 6 months, so from June 25 - 180 days later would be around December 25 (I posted this in the old forum). So, I think Michael will come out and reveal himself around Christmas day.
Regarding the Egyptian Bust that looks like Michael, remember the History Album, in the pamphlet that goes with it, on page 31, Michael's Egyptian bust is there with a bird which I think is a Phoenix.
With Remember The Time, I checked the lyrics and the country that was mentioned there is Spain. I don't know if there's some meaning to it.
You and me...on the phone....hhhmmmm, yeas sure ancient Egypt, on the phone :roll:
Bad jokes on the side, I was told since July that the song remember the time had a meaning....still I can´t find it in this hoax (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Confused/confused-31.gif) in Spain???
I am rigth now in Spain. Where should I go to find clues? (http://images.zaazu.com/img/privateeye-private-eye-detective-sherlock-smiley-emoticon-000745-medium.gif)
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I hope it is with christmas! BEST GIFT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! <333333333
I may not celebrate christmas this year :( so this would be one AMAZING GIFT :)
Im gonna write a letter to SANTA :mrgreen: LOL
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in regards to todays thisisalsoit link (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/this-is-it- ... 846-25.htm (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/this-is-it-the-rehearsals-the-movie-trailers-f14/don-t-forget-the-spider-in-tii-movie-t3846-25.htm))
TNZ twitted : TrueNewsZone While thinking about spiders, don't forget about Ziggy Stardust. (thisisalsoit)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Thank you for the links SERENITY.
Remember the Baseball Pic. clue, Baseball game season is 180 days and 180 days is approximately 6 months, so from June 25 - 180 days later would be around December 25 (I posted this in the old forum). So, I think Michael will come out and reveal himself around Christmas day.
Regarding the Egyptian Bust that looks like Michael, remember the History Album, in the pamphlet that goes with it, on page 31, Michael's Egyptian bust is there with a bird which I think is a Phoenix.
With Remember The Time, I checked the lyrics and the country that was mentioned there is Spain. I don't know if there's some meaning to it.
i dont no about the spain thing but the phoenix could be pnoenix rising from the ashes
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Thank you for the links SERENITY.
Remember the Baseball Pic. clue, Baseball game season is 180 days and 180 days is approximately 6 months, so from June 25 - 180 days later would be around December 25 (I posted this in the old forum). So, I think Michael will come out and reveal himself around Christmas day.
Regarding the Egyptian Bust that looks like Michael, remember the History Album, in the pamphlet that goes with it, on page 31, Michael's Egyptian bust is there with a bird which I think is a Phoenix.
With Remember The Time, I checked the lyrics and the country that was mentioned there is Spain. I don't know if there's some meaning to it.
i dont no about the spain thing but the phoenix could be pnoenix rising from the ashes
In Egypt it symbolized the sun, the sun dies at night and is reborn in the morning.
The phoenix was regarded by the Greeks and Egyptians as a demigod, and according to legend, this being consumed by his own flames every 500 years, later reborn from its ashes like a phoenix young and new.
And now....where to place it in the hoax :?
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i will leave that to you ,i think i did my bit :lol:
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Deleted. TNZ is crap!
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Thank you for the links SERENITY.
Remember the Baseball Pic. clue, Baseball game season is 180 days and 180 days is approximately 6 months, so from June 25 - 180 days later would be around December 25 (I posted this in the old forum). So, I think Michael will come out and reveal himself around Christmas day.
Regarding the Egyptian Bust that looks like Michael, remember the History Album, in the pamphlet that goes with it, on page 31, Michael's Egyptian bust is there with a bird which I think is a Phoenix.
With Remember The Time, I checked the lyrics and the country that was mentioned there is Spain. I don't know if there's some meaning to it.
i dont no about the spain thing but the phoenix could be pnoenix rising from the ashes
Remember the scene from TII where Michael is telling the others on stage to imagine the jacket burning and he says let it burn. During the thriller era he was always associated with that red jacket. To me, this scene is signifying the resurrection of the phoenix, Michael. Letting the jacket burn (Michael) as he will rise from it`s ashes just like a phoenix; Michael resurrected from death and his former self.
interesting serenity!! good thinking! :D
makes sence to me!
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just a thought on the burning jacket thing!!
this could mean his end of the Thriller album / recored breaking thing!! so to speak.. and constantly being in its shadow with everything he has released since!! therefore burning the jacket is the start of something new!! like TII breaking box office records an so on!!
you never know what he has up his sleave!! 8-)
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just a thought on the burning jacket thing!!
this could mean his end of the Thriller album / recored breaking thing!! so to speak.. and constantly being in its shadow with everything he has released since!! therefore burning the jacket is the start of something new!! like TII breaking box office records an so on!!
you never know what he has up his sleave!! 8-)
also good one ;) hmmmm you guys bring up some interesting points!
to me it indeed looks like the ending of an era end the beginning of something new...
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just a thought on the burning jacket thing!!
this could mean his end of the Thriller album / recored breaking thing!! so to speak.. and constantly being in its shadow with everything he has released since!! therefore burning the jacket is the start of something new!! like TII breaking box office records an so on!!
you never know what he has up his sleave!! 8-)
keep them coming we are getting somewhere at last :D you are all very clever people well done
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Here is an interesting piece from one of TNZ's Blog. I suggest that if you haven't read them than do so and if you have maybe reread them!
CHRISTMAS COMING SOON. Do Not Read If You Plan To Be Surprised.
As we previously stated, on September 3rd everybody witnessed mighty brilliant Funeral Performance directed by Mr. Michael Joseph Jackson and based on eternal Biblical Scenario "Last Supper". All that fully demonstrated cultural and philosophical meaning of the happening. If we just extrapolate the plot, we will clearly see that Mr. Jackson aka a la Jesus Christ plays the role of the newest messiah.
Therefore, we have all the reason to expect Rebirth or Resurrection and Christmas perfectly suit it.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse (http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse) ... =513654361
Wouldn't Easter be more inline with ressurection and rebirth? :?
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Here is an interesting piece from one of TNZ's Blog. I suggest that if you haven't read them than do so and if you have maybe reread them!
CHRISTMAS COMING SOON. Do Not Read If You Plan To Be Surprised.
As we previously stated, on September 3rd everybody witnessed mighty brilliant Funeral Performance directed by Mr. Michael Joseph Jackson and based on eternal Biblical Scenario "Last Supper". All that fully demonstrated cultural and philosophical meaning of the happening. If we just extrapolate the plot, we will clearly see that Mr. Jackson aka a la Jesus Christ plays the role of the newest messiah.
Therefore, we have all the reason to expect Rebirth or Resurrection and Christmas perfectly suit it.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse (http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse) ... =513654361
Wouldn't Easter be more inline with ressurection and rebirth? :?
YES IM THINKING THE WHITE RABBIT,LILLIES,KO TWITTER ABOUT SNOW MELTING OR SOMETHING AND THE DVD EGGS
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Deleted. TNZ is Lying.
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i read somewhere that mj was born on a full moon and that it featured heavy in his life,and in thriller there is a full moon ,so back to the burning jacket thing ,cant think no more i have lost it now
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i read somewhere that mj was born on a full moon and that it featured heavy in his life,and in thriller there is a full moon ,so back to the burning jacket thing ,cant think no more i have lost it now
Yes he was born on a full Moon if you put his birth date in to this site and then scroll to the bottom it tells you about the moon on that date.
http://www.paulsadowski.org/BirthData.asp
Thursday, August 28, 1958
Moon's age (days): 13
Distance (Earth radii): 62.18
Percent Illumination 98.37%
Ecliptic latitude (degrees): 4.57
Ecliptic longitude (degrees): 325.35
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Funny.
I just had a talk about how full moon afects me.
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Thank you serenity for your analysis....
I also had the feeling that there´s much more hidden meaning on the TNZ page than is visible on first sight.
We are all somehow trying to see things from Michael´s perspective here, trying to take a look inside his head...
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On the other hand, the caption asks: "Ever want to be someone else? Now you can."
This statement can also include Michael, taking a break from "being himself."
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Deleted. TNZ can`t be trusted!
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About the April thing. In Catholic religion, April is the month for Holy Week, fasting and the preparation for the Death of Christ. This brings to my mind the Picture Clue of the Doughtnuts. Remember the 2 trees behind the lady. There actually is a reading about The Two Trees. The two trees are actually the Holy Cross of Jesus Christ where he gave the greatest gift of all by offering His Life for the salvation of Mankind. And wasn't it April when the O2 came into discussion between MJ and whoever.
Christmas is the day when all the prophecies unfold where changes would come for mankind with the birth of Christ. For me, Michael will come back on Christmas day because that's the day of love.
PHOENIX AND CHRISTMAS :
The Phoenix lives in a nest of frankincense and myrrh. Remember the 3 Wise Men bringing gifts of myrrh and frankincense. Frankincense indicates the Priestly intercession of Christ for mankind, meaning a spiritual intercession.The Myrrh indicates Christ's coming death for all mankind - His sacrificial death on the cross.
I read somewhere the importance of where the phoenix head is facing. If the symbol of the Phoenix is facing left, then they are using the Phoenix for satanic reasons, but if the Phoenix is facing right, then it is a good one.
As for the Illuminati for their New World Order, they use the Messianic parallelism for their occult, like staging a false Christ, A Man of Perdition.
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TNZ just tweeted this: ''while thinking about TII 'Thriller' with ukrainian subtitles, don't forget about "Christmas Eve" by Gogol ;)''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Eve_%28Gogol%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Eve_%28Gogol%29)
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so wot time xmas day and how? on the tv? im out for xmas dinner imagine if i missed it!! thats why im a little in doubt bout xmas day but it all points to then which is gud i mean wot a great xmas that will be!! Just confused bout june tribute then?? Does that mean he will announce his actual concert then rather than it being a tribute?? bring on the 25th!!! :P
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I did not understand the wiki link :oops:
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I did not understand the wiki link :oops:
well it's a christmas story and at the end of it, it seems like the main caracter has died (killed himself), but then he comes back. so he's still alive :)
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Yiiipiiieeeeee!!!!
thanks
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just posted this on another topic but i think it should be here as well..
A thought on christmas!! can you imagine what he would get accused of coming back at christmas!!
the one an only.. JESUS.. it would be a massacre for Michael i think.. as people would turn round the evnts an make him out like he was trying to be as big as or the next JESUS!!
same as if it was easter!!
thats just my opinion!! an how people would turn it into something else!!
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just posted this on another topic but i think it should be here as well..
A thought on christmas!! can you imagine what he would get accused of coming back at christmas!!
the one an only.. JESUS.. it would be a massacre for Michael i think.. as people would turn round the evnts an make him out like he was trying to be as big as or the next JESUS!!
same as if it was easter!!
thats just my opinion!! an how people would turn it into something else!!
has he not been accused of this already messiah complex ring any bells
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yeah i know that!! but he's getting his name back for being the kind hearted genuine person he was.. then to ruin it all again by pulling a JESUS STUNT as i think people will see it!! if he was to pop up on that day!!
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he could always say he is santa claus spreading joy and happiness and goodwill
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he could always say he is santa claus spreading joy and happiness and goodwill
hahahahaha.. yeah this would definatly be better.. :) in fact i'm gonna look at it like that from now on on!!
who better than santa (Michael).. WOO!! :)
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he could always say he is santa claus spreading joy and happiness and goodwill
:lol: :lol: :lol: yes, let´s take in Santa´s way...better than Jesus!!
I like the solution ;)
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just posted this on another topic but i think it should be here as well..
A thought on christmas!! can you imagine what he would get accused of coming back at christmas!!
the one an only.. JESUS.. it would be a massacre for Michael i think.. as people would turn round the evnts an make him out like he was trying to be as big as or the next JESUS!!
same as if it was easter!!
thats just my opinion!! an how people would turn it into something else!!
has he not been accused of this already messiah complex ring any bells
we celebrate jesus resurrection on easter, christmas was de born and i'm with SPAKKLE29FUL: he could always say he is santa claus spreading joy and happiness and goodwill
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and he could come down my chimney anytime ill get some KFC just in case :lol:
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and he could come down my chimney anytime ill get some KFC just in case :lol:
And, guess what he'll be wearing - HIS GOLDEN PANTS.
And you'll know it's him because of his EEEEEEE and AWHHHH and his HICCUP sound instead of the HO HO HO and he'll be bringing his water gun and another for you so you'll have a shooting day together.
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so wot time xmas day and how? on the tv? im out for xmas dinner imagine if i missed it!! thats why im a little in doubt bout xmas day but it all points to then which is gud i mean wot a great xmas that will be!! Just confused bout june tribute then?? Does that mean he will announce his actual concert then rather than it being a tribute?? bring on the 25th!!! :P
dont worry, you will know when he comes back. WE ALL WILL!
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I posted this somewhere else but I think this would be a better spot.. I typed in TNZ on the twitter search box and she says: " @DreamChild777 True News Zone TNZ answerd an email from me and said YES larry King is in on the hoax!"
So I think they might be in on the hoax as well. Maybe they are the ones giving us all the links on thisisalsoit.com
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I posted this somewhere else but I think this would be a better spot.. I typed in TNZ on the twitter search box and she says: " @DreamChild777 True News Zone TNZ answerd an email from me and said YES larry King is in on the hoax!"
So I think they might be in on the hoax as well. Maybe they are the ones giving us all the links on thisisalsoit.com
Thanks Nelly ;)
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Wow, Lisa Marie is friends with TNZ :)
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Deleted! TNZ suxs!
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Am I reading it right(if there's a message) - You should/decide /for /yourself
The arrangement of the first line of friends reads out a sentence/message. Were the member's lists arranged as such? And underneath are 4 Michael JacksonS.
So, the message would be - among the 4 Michael JacksonS, you should decide for yourself which one is the real Michael Jackson?
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Am I reading it right(if there's a message) - You should/decide /for /yourself
The arrangement of the first line of friends reads out a sentence/message. Were the member's lists arranged as such? And underneath are 4 Michael JacksonS.
So, the message would be - among the 4 Michael JacksonS, you should decide for yourself which one is the real Michael Jackson?
yes i think something like that ;)
interesting isn't it!!
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/TNZ.jpg)
Am I reading it right(if there's a message) - You should/decide /for /yourself
The arrangement of the first line of friends reads out a sentence/message. Were the member's lists arranged as such? And underneath are 4 Michael JacksonS.
So, the message would be - among the 4 Michael JacksonS, you should decide for yourself which one is the real Michael Jackson?
Good point Juliet! I definitely think TNZ has been trying to tell us something from day 1 when they first came on the scene! Their message couldn't be far from the truth! In order to find the truth we must listen to our heart and make our own decisions! ;)
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Oh noooo! not this again!
Dejá vú from July :?
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Thank you FRANCISCA ;) and BANESSA. ;) I thought it was only my imagination running wild again. :roll:
And with what GEMA said OH NOOOO not again is at the back of my mind, too :?:
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Okay, I just read something regarding one of the Michael JacksonS. The Michael Jackson on the right is the myspace.com thisisalsomj
I read the chatango messages and somebody wrote something about that MJ, changing his age/gender profile, first a 97 yrs.old woman and then into a 51 yrs.old man.
I actually thanked the guy for pointing out the age and gender change in his profile.
Here's the link http://www.myspace.com/thisisalsomj (http://www.myspace.com/thisisalsomj)
That means, the final 3 contestants are...... :roll:
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ok guys i'm lost with all this.. but just checking out that myspace link ^^ an its got the new forum page on it!! as an example of where to check the hoax thing out!!
so don't know if this is relevant but it must be being updated constantly an therefore my opinion is "i always feel like someone is watching ussssssssssssssss"
:shock: there is a point to this i just can't put my finger on it!! sorry if i've lost you all.. :?
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ok guys i'm lost with all this.. but just checking out that myspace link ^^ an its got the new forum page on it!! as an example of where to check the hoax thing out!!
so don't know if this is relevant but it must be being updated constantly an therefore my opinion is "i always feel like someone is watching ussssssssssssssss"
:shock: there is a point to this i just can't put my finger on it!! sorry if i've lost you all.. :?
:? you have lost me please help me find my mind :lol:
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ok guys i'm lost with all this.. but just checking out that myspace link ^^ an its got the new forum page on it!! as an example of where to check the hoax thing out!!
so don't know if this is relevant but it must be being updated constantly an therefore my opinion is "i always feel like someone is watching ussssssssssssssss"
:shock: there is a point to this i just can't put my finger on it!! sorry if i've lost you all.. :?
:? you have lost me please help me find my mind :lol:
its one of the MJ's myspace page.. got some good stuff on it and our new forum page!! so whoever it is is obviously checking this site out!! cos its the new page not the old forum so there keeping an eye on us!!
does this help.. if not i'm doomed and officially a crack pot.. hahaha.. any1 got a spare cell!! haha
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lisap27 wrote:
ok guys i'm lost with all this.. but just checking out that myspace link ^^ an its got the new forum page on it!! as an example of where to check the hoax thing out!!
so don't know if this is relevant but it must be being updated constantly an therefore my opinion is "i always feel like someone is watching ussssssssssssssss"
Yes, definitely someone's watching us because the info they have, we are all aware of, even the links they've entered. But they have acknowledged forums and YT vids,too.
So, just in case people will be misled again to thinking whoever the person is,might be Michael, please be careful, okay.
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Bad day for me to pop in... :?
Whaaaaaaat?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TaxXgIl53bQ/SmvKqbBDIOI/AAAAAAAAAtI/ScEJUXiVb8c/s400/Michael%20Jackson%20Moonwalker.jpg)
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Bad day for me to pop in... :?
Whaaaaaaat?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TaxXgIl53bQ/SmvKqbBDIOI/AAAAAAAAAtI/ScEJUXiVb8c/s400/Michael%20Jackson%20Moonwalker.jpg)
I THINK YOU NEED TO GET BACK IN THE PADDED CELL NOW :lol:
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:lol: :lol: I just can´t get to understand the posts today.
I give up ;)
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has anyone seen TMJK7's new tweet??
I'm so happy, everything is almost back to normal. -Me-Te-Mp-Sy-Ch-Os-Is. 43.56837.968.255.263.63337.9687.7877678. (H-7)
when i typed it in i got he loves you all and needs your support but i dont know about the other stuff.
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has anyone seen TMJK7's new tweet??
I'm so happy, everything is almost back to normal. -Me-Te-Mp-Sy-Ch-Os-Is. 43.56837.968.255.263.63337.9687.7877678. (H-7)
when i typed it in i got he loves you all and needs your support but i dont know about the other stuff.
whats back to normal :?
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psychosis?
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this is the current status of TNZ on myspace:
THE FIRST LETTER OF ST. PAUL TO THE CORINTHIANS http://lnk.ms/3Cq2L (http://lnk.ms/3Cq2L)
:?
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psychosis?
:? oh no what about psychosis what is the meaning
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"I'm so happy, everything is almost back to normal. -Me-Te-Mp-Sy-Ch-Os-Is. 43.56837.968.255.263.63337.9687.7877678. (H-7)"
Still figuring out why he/ she wrote that.
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It´s interesting.
I actually don´t believe in any of the dates anymore, and I´ll believe when I see... maybe he just comes back without a warning or a date we wait on.
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Deleted. TNZ hoaxes us!
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I would also like to add:
TNZ (The True News Zone) is not an official news agency. This is an independent news source that has been created to address the Michael Jackson supposed `Death Hoax`. In my opinion, the person or people behind this myspace and Twitter are deeply connected to what is going on. It could even be Michael himself. What better disguise could he have than to be a form of media, a news source which mimics the tabloid sensationalist of the like of TMZ but provides REAL information.
The myspace site of TNZ loads tons of images from a Russian site e.g.
http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/g/o/goa_goa/the2.jpg (http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/g/o/goa_goa/the2.jpg) and http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/g/o/goa_goa/c ... kopiya.jpg (http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/g/o/goa_goa/cover-time-kopiya.jpg).
Even the pics names are giving Russian words.
ljplus.ru seems to be a kind of portal for web users.
Now let's recap that the TII bootleg was put into the web with cyrillic subtitles (Russian or as claimed Ukrainian subtitles - this I may not judge).
So I would like to know why there is a Russian server being used for distribution of a lot of quite interesting and quite aggressive content.
Is this a "counter-revolution" and a "let's hop on the MJ train" freerider abuse of MJ's popularity for third party's interests? Are we being mislead again?
Did we question this site as the others before?
Or could it be possible that Michael is using worldwide ressources to get his network ready?
How close is he to B. Obama and the White House? Does this count in the organization of his disappearance?
Just asking.
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ok guys i'm lost with all this.. but just checking out that myspace link ^^ an its got the new forum page on it!! as an example of where to check the hoax thing out!!
so don't know if this is relevant but it must be being updated constantly an therefore my opinion is "i always feel like someone is watching ussssssssssssssss"
:shock: there is a point to this i just can't put my finger on it!! sorry if i've lost you all.. :?
Yes.
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has anyone seen TMJK7's new tweet??
I'm so happy, everything is almost back to normal. -Me-Te-Mp-Sy-Ch-Os-Is. 43.56837.968.255.263.63337.9687.7877678. (H-7)
when i typed it in i got he loves you all and needs your support but i dont know about the other stuff.
43.56837.968.255.263.63337.9687.7877678. says:
He Loves You All and Needs Your Support
The other word they posted is Metempsychosis. It is a greek word refering to transmigration of the soul after death, or reincarnation
see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metempsychosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metempsychosis)
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TNZ also twitted this: Read Between The Line: CHRISTMAS EVE @ TMZ http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/.. (http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/..).
they were referring to this article:
http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/29/pamela-bach-arrested-dui/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/29/pamela-bach-arrested-dui/)
And referred to a girls statement: Christmas Eve is inappropriate for court date
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TNZ also twitted this: Read Between The Line: CHRISTMAS EVE @ TMZ http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/.. (http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/..).
they were referring to this article:
http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/29/pamela-bach-arrested-dui/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/29/pamela-bach-arrested-dui/)
And referred to a girls statement: Christmas Eve is inappropriate for court date
i dont quite understand.. are we supposed to infer that he is coming back on that day?
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Deleted. I am so upset I believed TNZ...LIARS!
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TMJK7's last twitter reads: "Needed to delete the precious ones, I know you'll understand. Thank you all & Keep smiling.(-000-)"
ANyone know what the (-000-) means?
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TMJK7's last twitter reads: "Needed to delete the precious ones, I know you'll understand. Thank you all & Keep smiling.(-000-)"
ANyone know what the (-000-) means?
se mjssoulmate post here
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=226&start=50 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=226&start=50)
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TMJK7's last twitter reads: "Needed to delete the precious ones, I know you'll understand. Thank you all & Keep smiling.(-000-)"
ANyone know what the (-000-) means?
000 is the symbol used at the end of a sentence which means hugs but to be joined with a parenthesis & hyphens, I don't really know if the meaning changes and/or maybe more stress on the meaning.
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i think the 000 symbol (with arrows on both sides i guess) was also on MJ siganture or autograph on some of the the past pics, it was discussed and the pics should be available on forum (this or old one), but i cannot actually find it right now
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Next is a poster for "This Is It" but in TNZ's version the Image of Michael has extra limbs added and has 8 limbs in total; A Spider. This also reminds me of the spider Michael comes out of in the "thriller" scene in the movie "This Is It".
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/tttTHISISIT.jpg)
I wasn't thinking of a spider when I saw this. I thought of that Hindu God Shiva http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva.
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Well all I can say about all this is hmmm.......
I do think however, that MJ will NOT use Christmas as his time to come back. This would be very, VERY bad in my opinion. Christmas is Christ's birthday (of course) and if MJ chose December 25th as his "day" to come back, he will get ALOT of criticism...because people wil think he thinks he's comparing himself to Christ. If you think alot of people disliked MJ before...the he will have even more haters if he does this on Christmas.......Same with Easter.
Michael is extremely religious and I doubt very highly that he would disrespect God in this manner.
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If he's ever coming back and if he is coming back in Christmas, I don't think he would use 25th, as you said Jacksonologist, but maybe somewhere around Christmas.
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how about newyears day a new beginning and all that ,mj if your watching thats a good day for your return :D
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how about newyears day a new beginning and all that ,mj if your watching thats a good day for your return :D
i'm with you! new year it´s OK! :roll: :P
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how about newyears day a new beginning and all that ,mj if your watching thats a good day for your return :D
i'm with you! new year it´s OK! :roll: :P
yes somewhere near that time would be very cool!!! 8-)
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Eh....Screw New Years!! How about right now? LOL
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[quoteAnd finally we have the cover from "TIME" magazine which is on both the myspace and the twitter page:
This is a picture of Michael Jackson but he resembles someone else...who do you think it is?
I believe the date at the top is December 26, 2009/January 1, 2010 and states "PERSON OF THE YEAR". As "TIME" magazine would publish such a cover after the big event. This leads me to believe that Michael will definitely be revealed before December 26, 2009][/quote]
Okay, is this suppose to be a real magazine cover of MJ?
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Serenity's Dream,
Interesting you mentioned Doubting Thomas because I was going to post an article about this last week and now I see that you posted.
Yes, Thomas doubted although he was one of the disciples. He wouldn't believe until he was able to put his finger in the wounds of his side and hands. Sure enough, when Jesus did appear to them Thomas was given the opportunity to do so. Jesus also said next, that many have seen him and believe but Blessed are those who have not seen yet believe.
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In Regards to TNZ's Myspace page. I noticed Quincy Jones is a friend and MJ's mother! C'mon!! R U Kidding me!! :lol: I just looked at this. I should be a friend too. Dang!! These people coming on here to be friends, well known people. THis is really odd!! hmmm.
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In Regards to TNZ's Myspace page. I noticed Quincy Jones is a friend and MJ's mother! C'mon!! R U Kidding me!! :lol: I just looked at this. I should be a friend too. Dang!! These people coming on here to be friends, well known people. THis is really odd!! hmmm.
Don't assume too much - important people are also friends to Mr. Michael Louis Brittingham's myspace who is a vulture and freerider.
There are also automatic replies when many requests are coming in. This Brittingham has registered the homesite in GB on June 28 btw and carries an Indian / Pakistanian name but claims to be living in CA. He is asking to be added to his followers on MySpace... what a crap.
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Thanks for sharing.
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TMJK7's last twitter reads: "Needed to delete the precious ones, I know you'll understand. Thank you all & Keep smiling.(-000-)"
ANyone know what the (-000-) means?
000 is the symbol used at the end of a sentence which means hugs but to be joined with a parenthesis & hyphens, I don't really know if the meaning changes and/or maybe more stress on the meaning.
I thought 'O' meant hugs.
[quoteAnd finally we have the cover from "TIME" magazine which is on both the myspace and the twitter page:
This is a picture of Michael Jackson but he resembles someone else...who do you think it is?
I believe the date at the top is December 26, 2009/January 1, 2010 and states "PERSON OF THE YEAR". As "TIME" magazine would publish such a cover after the big event. This leads me to believe that Michael will definitely be revealed before December 26, 2009][/quote] Where did you find that?
In Regards to TNZ's Myspace page. I noticed Quincy Jones is a friend and MJ's mother! C'mon!! R U Kidding me!! :lol: I just looked at this. I should be a friend too. Dang!! These people coming on here to be friends, well known people. THis is really odd!! hmmm.
How do we even know that, that is MJ's real mother?
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How do we even know that, that is MJ's real mother?
I guess Nelly she was saying that just because you see someone's myspace page doesn't necessarily mean they posted it. If I am correct?
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i think the 000 symbol (with arrows on both sides i guess) was also on MJ siganture or autograph on some of the the past pics, it was discussed and the pics should be available on forum (this or old one), but i cannot actually find it right now
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=65&start=25 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=65&start=25)
Hi! the pics are there in this topic it's being discussed right now =D
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There is also on TNZ's myspace the drawing by Michael Jackson for "The Girl is Mine" with Paul McCartney
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-6j_ha0QajE/S ... tiv_12.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-6j_ha0QajE/SkRQ9EDLRdI/AAAAAAAACBA/XRCa4YxYTXY/s400/michaelkreativ_12.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/McMJ-kopiya.jpg)
Added to this drawing are the words "THE CUSH IS MINE? COMING SOON"
damn im glad you brung this up cause i thought they were talking about cush, like this type of Kush http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kush_(cannabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kush_(cannabis))
LOL i was waiting for this blog so i could understand what weed had to do with anything...lol my bad :oops:
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There is also on TNZ's myspace the drawing by Michael Jackson for "The Girl is Mine" with Paul McCartney
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-6j_ha0QajE/S ... tiv_12.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-6j_ha0QajE/SkRQ9EDLRdI/AAAAAAAACBA/XRCa4YxYTXY/s400/michaelkreativ_12.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/McMJ-kopiya.jpg)
Added to this drawing are the words "THE CUSH IS MINE? COMING SOON"
damn im glad you brung this up cause i thought they were talking about cush, like this type of Kush http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kush_(cannabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kush_(cannabis))
LOL i was waiting for this blog so i could understand what weed had to do with anything...lol my bad :oops:
when I go to look to see what cush means, it doesnt give you any information involving that link.
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There is also on TNZ's myspace the drawing by Michael Jackson for "The Girl is Mine" with Paul McCartney
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-6j_ha0QajE/S ... tiv_12.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-6j_ha0QajE/SkRQ9EDLRdI/AAAAAAAACBA/XRCa4YxYTXY/s400/michaelkreativ_12.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/McMJ-kopiya.jpg)
Added to this drawing are the words "THE CUSH IS MINE? COMING SOON"
damn im glad you brung this up cause i thought they were talking about cush, like this type of Kush http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kush_(cannabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kush_(cannabis))
LOL i was waiting for this blog so i could understand what weed had to do with anything...lol my bad :oops:
when I go to look to see what cush means, it doesnt give you any information involving that link.
click the did you mean link
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NELLYKA : I thought '0' meant hugs.
Yes, NELLY, so 000 is more hugs.
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im getting straight to the point im lost and confused :? help me
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NELLYKA : I thought '0' meant hugs.
Yes, NELLY, so 000 is more hugs.
whats with the arrow then underneath the O's?
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Did you see the 2 videos posted on TNZ myspace?
Breathtaking.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... uenewszone (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&vanity=truenewszone)
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... =100207285 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=100207285)
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=62716996 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=62716996)
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Did you see the 2 videos posted on TNZ myspace?
Breathtaking.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... uenewszone (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&vanity=truenewszone)
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... =100207285 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=100207285)
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=62716996 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=62716996)
THE FIRST AND THE SECOND ARE THE SAME, THE THIRD I SAW IT ON YOU TUBE... ONE OF THE FIRSTS VIDEOS I SAW ABOUT CONRAD MURRAY... WHEN TNZ UPLOAD THIS ONE?
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Now TNZ has a new blog post. It refers MJHD, MJKIT and Mo & Souza's blog about the twin theory
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this last blog post left me confused.. :?
what's your opinion?
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Now TNZ has a new blog post. It refers MJHD, MJKIT and Mo & Souza's blog about the twin theory
yea i read it and im confused...lol
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Now TNZ has a new blog post. It refers MJHD, MJKIT and Mo & Souza's blog about the twin theory
yea i read it and im confused...lol
Yeah I am a little too. What did it even state?
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The new TNZ banner is really weird, a lil scary :roll: It surprised me :shock: His eyes are just piercing me.
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Ok now I'm freaking out !! Am I the only one to hear the mj message?!!!!? I'm on TNZ myspace right now and michael wish us a merry Xmas, I can't find where it's coming from !!!
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Ok now I'm freaking out !! Am I the only one to hear the mj message?!!!!? I'm on TNZ myspace right now and michael wish us a merry Xmas, I can't find where it's coming from !!!
lol! that's weird. maybe you have another tab or window open with some old youtube message or smth?
LATER EDIT: there is a comment from MICHAEL JACKSON - SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW user. it is the second comment now. That's where it comes from :). You'll swee a cartoon of a guy with a stereo. that's it
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No I don't dyanne, I reload TNZ myspace page and it's coming from here.
It's a repetitive message from mj (I think it's old but he is talking about christmas).
I'm not crazy, it's on TNZ myspace, put your loudspeaker on. NOW this is weird !!
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Ok now I'm freaking out !! Am I the only one to hear the mj message?!!!!? I'm on TNZ myspace right now and michael wish us a merry Xmas, I can't find where it's coming from !!!
lol! that's weird. maybe you have another tab or window open with some old youtube message or smth?
LATER EDIT: there is a comment from MICHAEL JACKSON - SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW user. it is the second comment now. That's where it comes from :). You'll swee a cartoon of a guy with a stereo. that's it
OH GOD ! Thanks Dyanne :P I was freaking out :lol: :lol:
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No I don't dyanne, I reload TNZ myspace page and it's coming from here.
It's a repetitive message from mj (I think it's old but he is talking about christmas).
I'll try to write it here :
"Thank you for all your love, your support and your loyalty
I love you all so much, it's just been a source of strength and inspiration
I wish you a very happy Christmas and a peaceful new year,
I look forward to see you soon and I love you all dearly
Thank you very much"
I'm not crazy, it's on TNZ myspace, put your loudspeaker on. NOW this is weird !!
Yes, the message is on TNZ page. Scroll down to the comments and you'll see what I mean. It is a message from 1995. See here:
[youtube:3jikmmt4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKn-0Ey4T54[/youtube:3jikmmt4]
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Thanks again ;) He looks so cute on this video :D
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what was that i thought i was totally crazy it is just getting stranger by the day is someone playing games or what :lol: anyway merry christmas to you mj
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You're welcome. :). He does look cute. Like a little boy ready to come out and play :).
I liked his short hair looks but I have to admit that for me Michael got hotter and sexier as he aged :D
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Now TNZ has a new blog post. It refers MJHD, MJKIT and Mo & Souza's blog about the twin theory
yea i read it and im confused...lol
yeah, that is where i lose all faith in TNZ...cuz i honestly cannot accept the twin theory! until michael and his twin sit side by side and tell me otherwise!
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what was that i thought i was totally crazy it is just getting stranger by the day is someone playing games or what :lol: anyway merry christmas to you mj
:lol: First of all you should know this: I am home alone, it is 3 am and the only lights in the house come from the TV and the laptop. Imagine how I freaked out!!!!
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It's getting stranger and stranger indeed. I really don't know if they're (whoever) is messing with us. If (IF) it's Michael, I sure do miss him and I'm waiting.....
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what was that i thought i was totally crazy it is just getting stranger by the day is someone playing games or what :lol: anyway merry christmas to you mj
:lol: First of all you should know this: I am home alone, it is 3 am and the only lights in the house come from the TV and the laptop. Imagine how I freaked out!!!!
im taking a bodyguard next time :lol: :lol:
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Now TNZ has a new blog post. It refers MJHD, MJKIT and Mo & Souza's blog about the twin theory
yea i read it and im confused...lol
yeah, that is where i lose all faith in TNZ...cuz i honestly cannot accept the twin theory! until michael and his twin sit side by side and tell me otherwise!
Yaya, read carefully. They are saying exactly the opposite! That the twin theory is not possible.
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You're welcome. :). He does look cute. Like a little boy ready to come out and play :).
I liked his short hair looks but I have to admit that for me Michael got hotter and sexier as he aged :D
I liked his short hair too :) And I totally agree with you about michael looking hotter and sexier as he aged :mrgreen:
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what was that i thought i was totally crazy it is just getting stranger by the day is someone playing games or what :lol: anyway merry christmas to you mj
:lol: First of all you should know this: I am home alone, it is 3 am and the only lights in the house come from the TV and the laptop. Imagine how I freaked out!!!!
im taking a bodyguard next time :lol: :lol:
8-) 8-)
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what was that i thought i was totally crazy it is just getting stranger by the day is someone playing games or what :lol: anyway merry christmas to you mj
:lol: First of all you should know this: I am home alone, it is 3 am and the only lights in the house come from the TV and the laptop. Imagine how I freaked out!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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O Merry Christmas to you too Michael...hopefully my Christmas wish will come true and you will be back with me!!
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@ dyanne,
LOL, ok thanks for clearing that up! i've been so lazy about adding them on myspace since i never use it anymore. meanwhile, i've been trying to gather what their blogs say through here...i guess it's time i join their myspace and read it! :lol:
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what was that i thought i was totally crazy it is just getting stranger by the day is someone playing games or what :lol: anyway merry christmas to you mj
:lol: First of all you should know this: I am home alone, it is 3 am and the only lights in the house come from the TV and the laptop. Imagine how I freaked out!!!!
:lol: :lol: same here.....i jumped from the chair when I saw the pic of MJ and the multiple eyes,,,,I got scared :lol:
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Ok now I'm freaking out !! Am I the only one to hear the mj message?!!!!? I'm on TNZ myspace right now and michael wish us a merry Xmas, I can't find where it's coming from !!!
Waaaa...yes I hear it.
The first time I went there today I had my speakers off.. so didn't hear it. I just saw that amazing piccy of MJ staring at me.
Now I have gone back to turn & turned my speakers on. His voice is so lovely to hear. What a beautiful message.
How can we find out if this is an old recording???
EDIT: Ok I just read the post above with the Christmas message from Michael.
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Ok now I'm freaking out !! Am I the only one to hear the mj message?!!!!? I'm on TNZ myspace right now and michael wish us a merry Xmas, I can't find where it's coming from !!!
Waaaa...yes I hear it.
The first time I went there today I had my speakers off.. so didn't hear it. I just saw that amazing piccy of MJ staring at me.
Now I have gone back to turn & turned my speakers on. His voice is so lovely to hear. What a beautiful message.
How can we find out if this is an old recording???
CHECK UP THE PAGE ITS ALREADY CONFIRMED
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Ok now I'm freaking out !! Am I the only one to hear the mj message?!!!!? I'm on TNZ myspace right now and michael wish us a merry Xmas, I can't find where it's coming from !!!
Waaaa...yes I hear it.
The first time I went there today I had my speakers off.. so didn't hear it. I just saw that amazing piccy of MJ staring at me.
Now I have gone back to turn & turned my speakers on. His voice is so lovely to hear. What a beautiful message.
How can we find out if this is an old recording???
CHECK UP THE PAGE ITS ALREADY CONFIRMED
Thanks - I just saw that. It pays for me to start at the beginning ! :D
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@ dyanne,
LOL, ok thanks for clearing that up! i've been so lazy about adding them on myspace since i never use it anymore. meanwhile, i've been trying to gather what their blogs say through here...i guess it's time i join their myspace and read it! :lol:
Well, I think you should do that, since their blog is available only for friends in myspace. I joined only for that, we don't use myspace much in my country :)
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@ dyanne,
LOL, ok thanks for clearing that up! i've been so lazy about adding them on myspace since i never use it anymore. meanwhile, i've been trying to gather what their blogs say through here...i guess it's time i join their myspace and read it! :lol:
ok see this is where i get confused...at the begining he is saying that TII is all mike but he is acting like doubles so we can believe that there are doubles, IMO theres doubles BUT i have also thought that 02 mike was really mike acting and they say that that is the double so idk which is true but ima go with my gut on this and say TII is doubles 02 is mike acting
then he states, about the twin thing, that there is no way that 1 family could bare 2 children with vitiligo and sing the same ect and they not be identical...which is correct, on the other forum i hinted that i thought one of them wore make up and thats why his color would vary in the 80s like in 1985 captain EO he was very light then in 1989 liberian girl he was brown again, that has always bothered me because it just doesnt make sense and as far as musicly i dont think anyone ever said that they both wrote songs or even sang,and if we were to solely go by the blog and the videos both danced differently and 1 sang live and 1 didnt and im sure, if you believe in the twin therory or not,we all can agree that there is one mike singing all those songs
BUT then towards the end he kinda hints that there is 2 MJs, not twins by birth of course but 2 people sharing 1 life and then with there new picture with the michael with 3 sets of eyes and 2 mouths and there the this is it poster with 3 sets of arms i think that they are hinting that there are 2 or 3..but not twins by birth...
again i could be wrong but thats kinda the vibe i get from the blog
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@ dyanne,
LOL, ok thanks for clearing that up! i've been so lazy about adding them on myspace since i never use it anymore. meanwhile, i've been trying to gather what their blogs say through here...i guess it's time i join their myspace and read it! :lol:
ok see this is where i get confused...at the begining he is saying that TII is all mike but he is acting like doubles so we can believe that there are doubles, IMO theres doubles BUT i have also thought that 02 mike was really mike acting and they say that that is the double so idk which is true but ima go with my gut on this and say TII is doubles 02 is mike acting
then he states, about the twin thing, that there is no way that 1 family could bare 2 children with vitiligo and sing the same ect and they not be identical...which is correct, on the other forum i hinted that i thought one of them wore make up and thats why his color would vary in the 80s like in 1985 captain EO he was very light then in 1989 liberian girl he was brown again, that has always bothered me because it just doesnt make sense and as far as musicly i dont think anyone ever said that they both wrote songs or even sang,and if we were to solely go by the blog and the videos both danced differently and 1 sang live and 1 didnt and im sure, if you believe in the twin therory or not,we all can agree that there is one mike singing all those songs
BUT then towards the end he kinda hints that there is 2 MJs, not twins by birth of course but 2 people sharing 1 life and then with there new picture with the michael with 3 sets of eyes and 2 mouths and there the this is it poster with 3 sets of arms i think that they are hinting that there are 2 or 3..but not twins by birth...
again i could be wrong but thats kinda the vibe i get from the blog
Well, first of all, I discovered that I have to read their blog 3-4 times to understand everything :). This is what I understood so far:
- the 2 in 1 thing: you have the shy and gentle Mike we've all seen all these years. But he cannot be all that. Remember he is also human and no human being can be only kind and gentle and forgiving... that's where saints come for and I think we can all agree that Mike is not a saint. So, he must have a "dark" side. Not evil, just a bad one. A side that would show up when he is pissed off. Also, this side would help him when business is involved. You cannot do such good deals like the Beatles catalogue if you're all about love and kindness and forgiving. Think about Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde
- they are also implying that in this game we see what Mike wants us to see. So no doubles in TII, just him, making some strange moves, leaving out some signature ones like the moonwalk or the 45 degrees lean in Smooth Criminal. This, combined with some apparently bad lipsynch ... voila! more Mikes
- as far as the twin is concerned, in am 100% sure that this theory doesn't stand up. This would mean that for 50 years the family has hidden a brother. And no paparazzi, no tabloids were able to spot him. For me this seems impossible and in wouldn't make sense. After all, nobody knew at the beginning how BIG he would be so why hide his brother? Unless somebody shows me some birth certificate for the brother... I don't buy that! But it is just my opinion
- about the poster with 3 eyes: it symbolizes the "being Michael" phenomenon. Like everywhere you go on forums, myspace, facebook, blogs etc you find at least one person pretending to be him. IMO some are indeed trolls, others are part of his team. It's about uniting us all into one voice, one consciousness and to spread the message.
This is about us seeing him as a whole, his both sides, about sending a message, getting back on the media, reinventing himself.
This is about everything I've comprehended by now. And I think this is just the beginning :).
Hope it helped
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Deleted. TNZ sucked me in, I am so angry!
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Yes SSerenity, that's exactly my thoughts :)
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- they are also implying that in this game we see what Mike wants us to see. So no doubles in TII, just him, making some strange moves, leaving out some signature ones like the moonwalk or the 45 degrees lean in Smooth Criminal. This, combined with some apparently bad lipsynch ... voila! more Mikes
this point of the blog i get and i kinda agree but i still think that there was different mikes in the movie..it may be less people than i thought tho...
- as far as the twin is concerned, in am 100% sure that this theory doesn't stand up. This would mean that for 50 years the family has hidden a brother. And no paparazzi, no tabloids were able to spot him. For me this seems impossible and in wouldn't make sense. After all, nobody knew at the beginning how BIG he would be so why hide his brother? Unless somebody shows me some birth certificate for the brother... I don't buy that! But it is just my opinion
again i dont believe its a twin from birth thats way to far fetched but i do think we have been seeing 2 people which would explain the facial changes ect
- about the poster with 3 eyes: it symbolizes the "being Michael" phenomenon. Like everywhere you go on forums, myspace, facebook, blogs etc you find at least one person pretending to be him. IMO some are indeed trolls, others are part of his team. It's about uniting us all into one voice, one consciousness and to spread the message.
this also makes sense, i dont follow the whole cassandra thing or think that mike would speak to us as someone as obvious os peterpanmj or something like that so i guess i dont realize how big this fake mj thing is BUT i cant help but think that its a sublimal to us seeing different mjs over the year and unless mj himself says that he never used a double and every picture ect was of him and him only i refuse to believe that we have been seeing him and him only and i firmly think that him using double/doubles is part of the hoax
This is about us seeing him as a whole, his both sides, about sending a message, getting back on the media, reinventing himself.
This is about everything I've comprehended by now. And I think this is just the beginning :).
Hope it helpedn
and i agree that this is about us seeing him as a whole, i have been saying this in the begining even before the movie therory i thought he faked his death to renew his legacy
but thank you for you point of view of things
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TNZ's blog says this at the end:
"It actually takes TWO TO TANGO.
One of those should be selfless and shy, generous and gentle -- to follow; other one, shameless and daring, unfearing and torrid, he should be above any limits -- to lead the dance.
It takes TWO to dance with a DEATH. The two have yet to reverse their roles time and again. They will dance, they will fight, they will quarrel. They will sell us that we have seen nothing yet, over and over. So we, over and over, time and again will buy this two-in-one. We will believe everything, knowing that we have to believe nothing. We will believe honestly, against everything. We will believe repeatedly. Only because we know, for a certainty, this metaphysical pair is up and equal to anything.
So let this dance last. Let this quarrel burn. Let this battle go on endlessly. Because this dance and this battle is nothing else, but LIFE as it is. So be it."
Supposing this metaphysical pair was physical, supposing there were two real Michaels Jacksons able to rock the world, they would think properly of 'broadening the field of struggle'.
Because THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH. (In other words there isn't room enough in the world for 2 PHYSICAL Michael Jacksons)
I believe this is more of a commentary on the duality of personality. That we all have more than one person inside of us, the many faces of each individual and Michael is not excluded from this either. We must accepted that all people are multifaceted and Michael Jackson is no exception, we all often struggle with who we are.
The key word is metaphysical in my opinion.
"Metaphysics is the branch of philosophy concerned with explaining the ultimate nature of reality, being, and the world. More recently, the term "metaphysics" has also been used more loosely to refer to "subjects that are beyond the physical world".
Agree with you, I couldn't imagine there are really 2 MJ existing, physically
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on another note whats up with this link? do you guys think this has anything to do with mike http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extension_ ... e_la_lutte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extension_du_domaine_de_la_lutte) this is the last link on the page... :(
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@ dyanne,
LOL, ok thanks for clearing that up! i've been so lazy about adding them on myspace since i never use it anymore. meanwhile, i've been trying to gather what their blogs say through here...i guess it's time i join their myspace and read it! :lol:
ok see this is where i get confused...at the begining he is saying that TII is all mike but he is acting like doubles so we can believe that there are doubles, IMO theres doubles BUT i have also thought that 02 mike was really mike acting and they say that that is the double so idk which is true but ima go with my gut on this and say TII is doubles 02 is mike acting
then he states, about the twin thing, that there is no way that 1 family could bare 2 children with vitiligo and sing the same ect and they not be identical...which is correct, on the other forum i hinted that i thought one of them wore make up and thats why his color would vary in the 80s like in 1985 captain EO he was very light then in 1989 liberian girl he was brown again, that has always bothered me because it just doesnt make sense and as far as musicly i dont think anyone ever said that they both wrote songs or even sang,and if we were to solely go by the blog and the videos both danced differently and 1 sang live and 1 didnt and im sure, if you believe in the twin therory or not,we all can agree that there is one mike singing all those songs
That is exactly my take on it but you layed it out so eloquently
BUT then towards the end he kinda hints that there is 2 MJs, not twins by birth of course but 2 people sharing 1 life and then with there new picture with the michael with 3 sets of eyes and 2 mouths and there the this is it poster with 3 sets of arms i think that they are hinting that there are 2 or 3..but not twins by birth...
again i could be wrong but thats kinda the vibe i get from the blog
Well, first of all, I discovered that I have to read their blog 3-4 times to understand everything :). This is what I understood so far:
- the 2 in 1 thing: you have the shy and gentle Mike we've all seen all these years. But he cannot be all that. Remember he is also human and no human being can be only kind and gentle and forgiving... that's where saints come for and I think we can all agree that Mike is not a saint. So, he must have a "dark" side. Not evil, just a bad one. A side that would show up when he is pissed off. Also, this side would help him when business is involved. You cannot do such good deals like the Beatles catalogue if you're all about love and kindness and forgiving. Think about Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde
- they are also implying that in this game we see what Mike wants us to see. So no doubles in TII, just him, making some strange moves, leaving out some signature ones like the moonwalk or the 45 degrees lean in Smooth Criminal. This, combined with some apparently bad lipsynch ... voila! more Mikes
- as far as the twin is concerned, in am 100% sure that this theory doesn't stand up. This would mean that for 50 years the family has hidden a brother. And no paparazzi, no tabloids were able to spot him. For me this seems impossible and in wouldn't make sense. After all, nobody knew at the beginning how BIG he would be so why hide his brother? Unless somebody shows me some birth certificate for the brother... I don't buy that! But it is just my opinion
- about the poster with 3 eyes: it symbolizes the "being Michael" phenomenon. Like everywhere you go on forums, myspace, facebook, blogs etc you find at least one person pretending to be him. IMO some are indeed trolls, others are part of his team. It's about uniting us all into one voice, one consciousness and to spread the message.
This is about us seeing him as a whole, his both sides, about sending a message, getting back on the media, reinventing himself.
This is about everything I've comprehended by now. And I think this is just the beginning :).
Hope it helped
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- about the poster with 3 eyes: it symbolizes the "being Michael" phenomenon.
I must admid I was thunderstruck when I opened TNZ´s page and heard Michael´s christmas message today.
A peaceful merry christmas also for you, Michael! :)
The three pairs of eyes are quite remarkable - similar to the "Being Michael Jackson" poster.
In the headline it reads: Michael Jackson, Michael J. Jackson & Michael Jackson the One.
Why three of all things?
Is it only symbolic for the different sides of a person that make "the one"?
Edit: I found out later that "the christmas message" was posted by a visitor on TNZ.
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Where is the message from Michael? Sorry for being dumb...
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Where is the message from Michael? Sorry for being dumb...
I think it depends on what you think of TNZ and their (possible) role in the whole...
- what do you think is the purpose for putting this message up now?
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Where is the message from Michael? Sorry for being dumb...
I think it depends on what you think of TNZ and their (possible) role in the whole...
- what do you think is the purpose for putting this message up now?
I know what I think, but am afraid to put it here for fear of being bashed. I just didn't know where the message was and I wanted to hear it :)
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Where is the message from Michael? Sorry for being dumb...
I think it depends on what you think of TNZ and their (possible) role in the whole...
- what do you think is the purpose for putting this message up now?
I know what I think, but am afraid to put it here for fear of being bashed. I just didn't know where the message was and I wanted to hear it :)
I haven´t seen any bashing here so far - and only various points of view make a discussion juicy imo.
Please go ahead... :P
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@ rag doll Well, here it is. I'm hoping for a Christmas come back, but I don't think it will be then. I think that the clip that was played relentlessly after the "death" from "They Don't Care About Us" .."Some things in life they just don't wanna see But if Martin Luther was livin' He wouldn't let this be" leans more towards the Jan. 18 date being put out there. It is Martin Luther King Day. IMO it was right out there from the beginning. My secondary thought would be Easter but I went down that road a few days ago and it didn't end well LOL.
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TNZ has a lot of stuff that's been proven wrong still on it.. disappointing. :cry:
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Where is the message from Michael? Sorry for being dumb...
Guy, there is no message from Michael on TNZ's page. At least not a recent one. There is indeed a Christmas message, it is an old one and it is played by one of the users through an application. See the previous page of this thread, one of my comments at the beginning of it: there is a comment from MICHAEL JACKSON - SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW user. That's where it comes from :). You'll see a cartoon of a guy with a stereo. that's it. Scroll down on the TNZ page to the comments and you'll see it
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@ rag doll Well, here it is. I'm hoping for a Christmas come back, but I don't think it will be then. I think that the clip that was played relentlessly after the "death" from "They Don't Care About Us" .."Some things in life they just don't wanna see But if Martin Luther was livin' He wouldn't let this be" leans more towards the Jan. 18 date being put out there. It is Martin Luther King Day. IMO it was right out there from the beginning. My secondary thought would be Easter but I went down that road a few days ago and it didn't end well LOL.
Interesting... -
the "History / They don´t care about us" part with the M.L.K. speech was the very first fragment of "This is it" that was published.
And I agree with you that this special part surely wasn´t choosen accidentally...
Thank you for sharing your sight! ;)
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@ rag doll Well, here it is. I'm hoping for a Christmas come back, but I don't think it will be then. I think that the clip that was played relentlessly after the "death" from "They Don't Care About Us" .."Some things in life they just don't wanna see But if Martin Luther was livin' He wouldn't let this be" leans more towards the Jan. 18 date being put out there. It is Martin Luther King Day. IMO it was right out there from the beginning. My secondary thought would be Easter but I went down that road a few days ago and it didn't end well LOL.
Interesting... -
the "History / They don´t care about us" part with the M.L.K. speech was the very first fragment of "This is it" that was published.
And I agree with you that this special part surely wasn´t choosen accidentally...
Thank you for sharing your sight! ;)
You're welcome :) I don't think it was an accident either. There was so much other footage to be used even other parts of the song..but this..no this was for a reason.
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Mayb TNZ hate us :lol:
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Mayb TNZ hate us :lol:
At least they don't seem to like Souza and me ;)
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@ dyanne,
LOL, ok thanks for clearing that up! i've been so lazy about adding them on myspace since i never use it anymore. meanwhile, i've been trying to gather what their blogs say through here...i guess it's time i join their myspace and read it! :lol:
ok see this is where i get confused...at the begining he is saying that TII is all mike but he is acting like doubles so we can believe that there are doubles, IMO theres doubles BUT i have also thought that 02 mike was really mike acting and they say that that is the double so idk which is true but ima go with my gut on this and say TII is doubles 02 is mike acting
then he states, about the twin thing, that there is no way that 1 family could bare 2 children with vitiligo and sing the same ect and they not be identical...which is correct, on the other forum i hinted that i thought one of them wore make up and thats why his color would vary in the 80s like in 1985 captain EO he was very light then in 1989 liberian girl he was brown again, that has always bothered me because it just doesnt make sense and as far as musicly i dont think anyone ever said that they both wrote songs or even sang,and if we were to solely go by the blog and the videos both danced differently and 1 sang live and 1 didnt and im sure, if you believe in the twin therory or not,we all can agree that there is one mike singing all those songs
BUT then towards the end he kinda hints that there is 2 MJs, not twins by birth of course but 2 people sharing 1 life and then with there new picture with the michael with 3 sets of eyes and 2 mouths and there the this is it poster with 3 sets of arms i think that they are hinting that there are 2 or 3..but not twins by birth...
again i could be wrong but thats kinda the vibe i get from the blog
I asked them "If you guys think that there were no body doubles in TII and it was all Michael himself peretending (trying to look like) to be a body double of himself, why do you think 02 London guy is NOT Michael but a body double? He looks more like Michael than the guys in TII? He could have some extra plastic make up to look like a body double again just like in TII?" and waiting for them to reply. They confused me too :)
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Mayb TNZ hate us :lol:
At least they don't seem to like Souza and me ;)
:lol: I always tought that there were body doubles in TII too. And I wrote that "Now I wonder how many people I made to watch TII again and again becoz I always told them there were body doubles. Because that's what I saw (if he didn't have an extra make-up). Anyways, if Michael pretended to be a body double of himself to make more people watch TII, Kudos to him because he did it! Thanx to a couple of sillies like me, Mo&Souza and some more :) He's a genius!"
They didn't write anything so they don't like me no more too :lol:
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Well, TNZ
1) seem rather aggressive
2) eager to show us every detail of the plot
3) does not stop ridiculing MJ and us
4) is a good writer
5) knows all about our conversations
6) has their material that they upload sitting in Russia
7) reminds me of some writer we know already.
Didn't this writer leave for fresh waters?
I am really astounded about the harsh unpleasant reads that they publish and about the MJ myspace pages following TNZ.
Do they really believe we are buying it from them if we did not buy it from others since 5 months?
This is not MJ speaking, this is not MJ caring, this is not MJ loving.
To me TNZ is subliminal hate and destruction and all I can say is they are not on his side IMHO but trying to destruct him one more time.
Listen to your belly while reading them. Be careful about what they want to sell to us.
This is not MJ.
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Just lets take it all with a pinch of salt.
I must say that TNZ´s blog can be confusing, at times aggressive, yes, but they do write very well and some theories are fitting mine ;)
I don´t think the writers behind the blog are Michael´s fans, that is why to me is very interesting to read them. Thinking they are average people, non fans, makes me think twice about MJ the human person, not the artist. But I can be mistaken about them, of course.
I am pretty critical with everything I read, even if I am naive most of the time, still I come in to a debate in everything, not only in this matter, but about almost everything in my life.
Thanks for reading.
Now, I go back to the cell with Spakkle29ful :lol:
Anyone want to join? Tonight we have 2 cold showers for the price of one!
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@ dyanne,BUT then towards the end he kinda hints that there is 2 MJs, not twins by birth of course but 2 people sharing 1 life and then with there new picture with the michael with 3 sets of eyes and 2 mouths and there the this is it poster with 3 sets of arms i think that they are hinting that there are 2 or 3..but not twins by birth...
again i could be wrong but thats kinda the vibe i get from the blog
TNZ's blog says this at the end:
"It actually takes TWO TO TANGO.
One of those should be selfless and shy, generous and gentle -- to follow; other one, shameless and daring, unfearing and torrid, he should be above any limits -- to lead the dance.
It takes TWO to dance with a DEATH. The two have yet to reverse their roles time and again. They will dance, they will fight, they will quarrel. They will sell us that we have seen nothing yet, over and over. So we, over and over, time and again will buy this two-in-one. We will believe everything, knowing that we have to believe nothing. We will believe honestly, against everything. We will believe repeatedly. Only because we know, for a certainty, this metaphysical pair is up and equal to anything.
So let this dance last. Let this quarrel burn. Let this battle go on endlessly. Because this dance and this battle is nothing else, but LIFE as it is. So be it."
Supposing this metaphysical pair was physical, supposing there were two real Michaels Jacksons able to rock the world, they would think properly of 'broadening the field of struggle'.
Because THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH. (In other words there isn't room enough in the world for 2 PHYSICAL Michael Jacksons)
I believe this is more of a commentary on the duality of personality. That we all have more than one person inside of us, the many faces of each individual and Michael is not excluded from this either. We must accepted that all people are multifaceted and Michael Jackson is no exception, we all often struggle with who we are.
The key word is metaphysical in my opinion.
"Metaphysics is the branch of philosophy concerned with explaining the ultimate nature of reality, being, and the world. More recently, the term "metaphysics" has also been used more loosely to refer to "subjects that are beyond the physical world".
exactly serenity! that's also my thought about their blog :)
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Deleted. TNZ is lying to us all!
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Do you think there is a real michael myspace on the TNZ top friends? I have my doubts on the 3 one, what do you think?
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TNZ are only using all the material that we have found so far - only to give it a contrary meaning. The disappearance of some chess figurines and the appearance of others in a different corner of public eyes claiming "the truth" for them is making up a new chapter after 06/25.
I came to think that the battle has just begun and that's why MJHD has left the field.
Get a rope and a safety jacket for the storms that are approaching.
I suggest to all those not so sure of what to make of it - save the reasons and indicators why you were convinced that MJ is alive and well on your desktop and don't forget about them during the next weeks.
As there are signs of a wishful thinking out there in cyberspace that MJ could return on Christmas, the debates are heating up and the haters are back to prepare the world for MJ and that date in their sense.
We are likely to be presented more disgusting lies and microscopic details of what MJ did not do right in some "public judging opinion".
During last months, tabloids were put on spotlight and sometimes ridiculed as not having cited and commented in true manners about MJ. They were presented undeniable inconsistencies and lies they did spread. They came up with insecurity signs in their approach to spreading MJ stories. They even did apologize in public about their lies. This is a never happened before novum and we can be proud of our efforts to force them to apologize.
They even started listening to us and gave us space to meet in order to learn what we found and think and whether there was something in for them. LKL live blog in fact has become a chat and the majority of haters there has turned into a majority of questioning people.
However, infotainment media are likely to defend their habits and status. They are likely to invent even more hateful and disgusting lies.
Be prepared for this in times when new and democratic media are not only being discovered by MJ friends but also MJ foes.
IMHO TMZ may have a lot to do with TNZ (e.g. TMZ allow a globally protected and protection surveyed brand logo to be copied and modified on myspace). This is copyright and brand infringement and if TNZ authors are really located in New York they know about it.
So either TMZ is in on TNZ or TNZ has VERY good lawyers.
Why TNZ is using Russian servers and not US servers for linking their material speaks to me that they are storing copyrighted material where US authorities do not have access to prosecution.
TNZ do have also a twibbon.com account:
In google cache of Nov 10, 2009 we'll find this:
TrueNewsZone
@HoaxDeathPage: "we can't be in rest in peace! the site will be okay in the coming days" - Great news: MJHD will COME BACK in its own time;)
55 minutes ago from web | View TrueNewsZone's twitter profile
at that time: 966 Following 459 Followers
* Name: True News Zone
* Location: New York
* Web: http://www.myspace.com/true.. (http://www.myspace.com/true..).
* Joined: 10/15/2009 9:24:35 PM
Well, whether they knew anything about MJHD from the site, web or backstage, we don't know.
Btw. I found a site where MJHD was stated to have been launched June 1, 2009 and I found another saying the site was worth more than 130,000 $ now. I doubt that there will be anybody buying it.
TNZ appearance and MJHD disappearance fit into the tide of events after the movie.
Their intention however is not clear. They are - as remarked earlier in the thread - no friends, fans, believers or followers. They are not neutral either. But they know how to twist words.
And they must be an international group with a lot of money behind. There is no advertisement on the page. (?) The site is maintained regularily, there is almost always somebody online and those folks do have a lot of time dedicated to layout, pictures and it's done professionally.
To me TNZ is following some third party interests as a freerider on MJ's attention. They are not convincing to me.
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http://www.myspace.com/thisisalsomj (http://www.myspace.com/thisisalsomj)
this is very interesting guys!
come and chat whit us!
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TNZ are only using all the material that we have found so far - only to give it a contrary meaning. The disappearance of some chess figurines and the appearance of others in a different corner of public eyes claiming "the truth" for them is making up a new chapter after 06/25.
I came to think that the battle has just begun and that's why MJHD has left the field.
Get a rope and a safety jacket for the storms that are approaching.
I suggest to all those not so sure of what to make of it - save the reasons and indicators why you were convinced that MJ is alive and well on your desktop and don't forget about them during the next weeks.
As there are signs of a wishful thinking out there in cyberspace that MJ could return on Christmas, the debates are heating up and the haters are back to prepare the world for MJ and that date in their sense.
We are likely to be presented more disgusting lies and microscopic details of what MJ did not do right in some "public judging opinion".
During last months, tabloids were put on spotlight and sometimes ridiculed as not having cited and commented in true manners about MJ. They were presented undeniable inconsistencies and lies they did spread. They came up with insecurity signs in their approach to spreading MJ stories. They even did apologize in public about their lies. This is a never happened before novum and we can be proud of our efforts to force them to apologize.
They even started listening to us and gave us space to meet in order to learn what we found and think and whether there was something in for them. LKL live blog in fact has become a chat and the majority of haters there has turned into a majority of questioning people.
However, infotainment media are likely to defend their habits and status. They are likely to invent even more hateful and disgusting lies.
Be prepared for this in times when new and democratic media are not only being discovered by MJ friends but also MJ foes.
IMHO TMZ may have a lot to do with TNZ (e.g. TMZ allow a globally protected and protection surveyed brand logo to be copied and modified on myspace). This is copyright and brand infringement and if TNZ authors are really located in New York they know about it.
So either TMZ is in on TNZ or TNZ has VERY good lawyers.
Why TNZ is using Russian servers and not US servers for linking their material speaks to me that they are storing copyrighted material where US authorities do not have access to prosecution.
TNZ do have also a twibbon.com account:
In google cache of Nov 10, 2009 we'll find this:
TrueNewsZone
@HoaxDeathPage: "we can't be in rest in peace! the site will be okay in the coming days" - Great news: MJHD will COME BACK in its own time;)
55 minutes ago from web | View TrueNewsZone's twitter profile
at that time: 966 Following 459 Followers
* Name: True News Zone
* Location: New York
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Well, whether they knew anything about MJHD from the site, web or backstage, we don't know.
Btw. I found a site where MJHD was stated to have been launched June 1, 2009 and I found another saying the site was worth more than 130,000 $ now. I doubt that there will be anybody buying it.
TNZ appearance and MJHD disappearance fit into the tide of events after the movie.
Their intention however is not clear. They are - as remarked earlier in the thread - no friends, fans, believers or followers. They are not neutral either. But they know how to twist words.
And they must be an international group with a lot of money behind. There is no advertisement on the page. (?) The site is maintained regularily, there is almost always somebody online and those folks do have a lot of time dedicated to layout, pictures and it's done professionally.
To me TNZ is following some third party interests as a freerider on MJ's attention. They are not convincing to me.
Hello Grace, I've become a huge critic of TNZ and I agree that they're only intention is to gain attention amongst Michael Jackson fans but in the long-term I'm not sure about their ambitions, a tabloid in the making perhaps? It wouldn't be surprising seeing as most tabloids use Michael Jackson as a means to claim fame, notoriety and financial gain.
But the thing I want to bring up is the extradition laws between the UK and Russia, it isn't possible to extradite someone from Russia to the UK to face legal prosecution and I think given America and Russia's unstable past it could well be the same situation.
Here is an is an example: Read about the case and then scroll down to 'Contents' and click on 'Extradition Declined' and the Russian stand point will become clear to you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_ ... n_declined (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko_poisoning#Extradition_declined)
I'd be surprised if Russia's political stance on this issue would be different to the one that is currently used at the moment as far as Russian a citizens extradition to the UK and so I doubt that they're going to bothered if TMZ presses charges for copyright infringement because there isn't going to be any prospect of legal proceedings materializing.
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Yep, Scream, this is one of the white holes on justice maps.
That's why the bootleg of TII was uploaded in the version we saw.
I just wonder who is behind TNZ.
What they are bringing up is what we put together on MJHD and here.
The material from MJHD is enough to fill a tabloid for at least one year.
I think it is not worth looking into a sale of the site.
Look at the content of the data base.
Any imagination of how much traffic that would generate if sorted and put into a serial novel?
Millions of $. I believe from experience in the greed of ugly men.
[And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.]
In this case I stick to hope that justice will eat its children.
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I also have my doubts Michael would reveal himself on Christmas due to his religious beliefs.I don't see anything wrong with him doing it sometime though through the holiday season.
Maybe he will choose Dec 26th,which is my birthday and what a gift that would be!!!!!
I wonder if he does read our posts because if he does,I welcome him to my house for my small and somewhat boring annual birthday party and do his live message via satellite from here!!!! That would liven up my 29th!!! :lol:
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I also have my doubts Michael would reveal himself on Christmas due to his religious beliefs.I don't see anything wrong with him doing it sometime though through the holiday season.
Maybe he will choose Dec 26th,which is my birthday and what a gift that would be!!!!!
I wonder if he does read our posts because if he does,I welcome him to my house for my small and somewhat boring annual birthday party and do his live message via satellite from here!!!! That would liven up my 29th!!! :lol:
I dont believe he will believe on Christmas. But he'll be with his kids, I think and hope.
And TNZ, perhaps it was an old member. A banned member? Dont know. I believe they copy everything only from forums. I follow them, but Im not a huge tnz-addict ;) Pay not so much attention on them.
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deleted. i will not promote the Liars at TNZ!
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Russia has reiterated its proposal to the United States to sign a bilateral extradition agreement, the Russian justice minister said.
Although Moscow and Washington agreed in 2007 to draft an agreement on the extradition of crime suspects, further progress on the deal is still pending.
"We have reiterated our earlier proposal to the U.S. on the bilateral extradition agreement. In our opinion, it is wrong that countries such as the United States and Russia do not have even a basic normative document on extradition," Alexander Konovalov said after his recent visit to the U.S.
During the visit, Konovalov met with officials from the U.S. Department of Justice in New York and Washington, and visited a penitentiary facility in New Jersey.
According to the Russian minister, the fight against terrorism, organized crime and corruption should be the key aspect of cooperation between the two countries in the sphere of law enforcement.
"We have agreed to establish permanent contacts in this area of cooperation," Konovalov said.
"We have also proposed to our American partners to establish a permanent dialogue Russia-EU and the U.S. on the fight against drug-trafficking," the minister said, adding that the Americans could provide valuable assistance to Russia in preventing the flow of narcotics from Afghanistan.
An estimated 90% of heroin consumed in Russia is trafficked from Afghanistan via Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, and the vast majority of heroin consumed in Europe passes through Russia on its way from Afghanistan, where illegal drug production has reportedly risen 44 times since 2001.
The U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) has about 67,000 troops in Afghanistan under a UN mandate to give security support to the Afghan government and stop the flow of drugs from the country.
So there you have it, there is no extradition treaty between the United States and Russia, this is the link: http://www.america-russia.net/eng/news/227912482 (http://www.america-russia.net/eng/news/227912482)
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TNZ image:
(http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/g/o/goa_goa/burial_blog.jpg)
Original painting:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/donut_queen.jpg)
TNZ's cut out of Mike's signature:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/donut_queen_sign.jpg)
I layered the original painting and TNZ's cut out up in photoshop:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/donut_queen2.jpg)
:shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Posts like these scare me, they are really getting deep. this on the original post that was on TNZ bothers me...
Revelations 1:18 - "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."
Is TNZ trying to say that Michael is Jesus, or trying to be Jesus? I really don't think Michael would do that; but I don't know; what do you guys think. I agree if he came back on christmas or easter, that is what people are going to think he is trying to do.
I read the left behind series, and I will say there would also be people trying to say he is the antichrist. My dad thinks oprah is the antichrist, LOL
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TNZ image:
(http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/g/o/goa_goa/burial_blog.jpg)
Original painting:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/donut_queen.jpg)
TNZ's cut out of Mike's signature:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/donut_queen_sign.jpg)
I layered the original painting and TNZ's cut out up in photoshop:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/donut_queen2.jpg)
:shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
so are these pictures by mike? and if so they look just like the pictures posted by tmz abut his last gifts to his kids? did he make them 2?
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Mayb TNZ hate us :lol:
At least they don't seem to like Souza and me ;)
Why do you guys said that? I have not been following TNZ so I won't know. Are they trying to be rude? :|
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Mayb TNZ hate us :lol:
At least they don't seem to like Souza and me ;)
Why do you guys said that? I have not been following TNZ so I won't know. Are they trying to be rude? :|
Don´t worry. They are sharp. That´s all.
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okay guys, i dont know where to post this, or if it was on the forum but 'He's Back!"
He restored his account. I don't want to say too much because I don't want him to be bothered.
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okay guys, i dont know where to post this, or if it was on the forum but 'He's Back!"
He restored his account. I don't want to say too much because I don't want him to be bothered.
Who's Back? How did you know that? Sorry I don't understand.. :P (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
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okay guys, i dont know where to post this, or if it was on the forum but 'He's Back!"
He restored his account. I don't want to say too much because I don't want him to be bothered.
Who's Back? How did you know that? Sorry I don't understand.. :P (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
exactly whos back :?
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okay guys, i dont know where to post this, or if it was on the forum but 'He's Back!"
He restored his account. I don't want to say too much because I don't want him to be bothered.
Who's Back? How did you know that? Sorry I don't understand.. :P (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
exactly whos back :?
LOL seems like everyone was wondering who's back. Nellyka, are you talking about the user "Back"? Or Mike is back? Or TNZ is the user Back? (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)(http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png) :?
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It would make sense for him to return on Christmas.
He "died" June 25.
Christmas is December 25.
December 25
- June 25
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6 months
Half a year, enough time to clear his head and come back.
If he doesn't show up by 2011, he's dead or doesn't want to come back.
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During the airing of the finale of the Jack5ons Family Dynasty, the Administrator (the person who created the chat room) of the chatroom on TNZ's myspace came in to the room. You know it is the Administrator as they have a different icon next to their name than all the other people in the room, when you look in the list of people who are currently in the room. The Administrators screen name is Jokecalmschina. If you don't already know this name it is an anagram for Michael Jackson (rearrange the letters). Jokecalmschina is also the screen name of the person who was leaving FAKE clues in many chat rooms created by different hoax websites on the Chatango network of chat rooms and others. They were banned in from the old MJHD forum and chat room!
23:46 xx (love) Jokecalmschina
23:48 JokeCalmsChina I have found my path and will never return!
23:48 JokeCalmsChina (love)
This proves TNZ are a bunch of fake, liars, hoaxing us!
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IMHO TMZ may have a lot to do with TNZ (e.g. TMZ allow a globally protected and protection surveyed brand logo to be copied and modified on myspace). This is copyright and brand infringement and if TNZ authors are really located in New York they know about it.
So either TMZ is in on TNZ or TNZ has VERY good lawyers.
Honestly, that was my first thought as well.
TMZ was the first "news source" for everything regarding Michael Jackson since 25th of June -non-believers an hoaxers alike.
As we know, TMZ obviously loves ambiguous puns and mysterious insinuations - let´s make it clear - they apparently know more.
So it makes sense in a stratetic way to create an alternate pool and platform where all those strange hints and clues are pointed out and can be discussed in public. That challenges attention without giving away themselves.
The fact that the TNZ logo resembles the lettering of TMZ so strikingly is a bold sign in a way - I don´t think Time Warner would be able to see a joke when it comes to delibrate misuse of one of their trademarks - certainly not.
Maybe this is a rare example of how the "Press" thwarts the "Press"?
In the name of the people.
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I allways have a look at there page on myspace, but my english isn't good enough to understand all.
Days before TII come in the cinema they have showed a video at youtube...with a long list of credits, but you can't read it....i think it was the original credit list from the movie, but at that time nobody knows it.
So i think they are the leaders of it all....they know the plan and there a a bridge between us and Michael and all the plan.
The video looks like the Sony Video about TII...same makers....i don't know if i can say it that you understand....it was like the same ppl are made it.
I wonder when the countdown starts again....look at the countdown....over the 0 there are different Numbers.
I think 59 seconds, 59 minutes and 2? hours....you can see it ! One day before BAM, they starts the countdown.
But i think there is a little problem.....will Michael be in time ? He often comes late... :lol:
Have a great day !
Hopeless
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So basically they came in and pretended to be MJ saying he is not coming back? Seems like they just are trying to cover their asses with being wrong all the time. They give up.
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http://www.myspace.com/thisisalsomj
this is very interesting guys!
come and chat whit us!
Thanks for the link...... interestingly the version of Another Day which is set up on this page still works as opposed to all the others which seem to have been taken down by Sony.
So Another Day is available to listen as link above.
:D
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During the airing of the finale of the Jack5ons Family Dynasty, the Administrator (the person who created the chat room) of the chatroom on TNZ's myspace came in to the room. You know it is the Administrator as they have a different icon next to their name than all the other people in the room, when you look in the list of people who are currently in the room. The Administrators screen name is Jokecalmschina. If you don't already know this name it is an anagram for Michael Jackson (rearrange the letters). Jokecalmschina is also the screen name of the person who was leaving clues in many chat rooms created by different hoax websites on the Chatango network of chat rooms and others.
23:46 xx (love) Jokecalmschina
23:48 JokeCalmsChina I have found my path and will never return!
23:48 JokeCalmsChina (love)
So is Michael Jackson the one who is really behind TNZ? and if so maybe the images, blogs and information on that myspace page should be considered more credible...
Im a bit confused, Im not able to watch the series as Im in the UK how did you know that, was there a computer screen in shot that you could see :?: Please could you explain for me, I think I may be a little bit "thick" today :?: :oops:
Thank you
L.O.V.E. :roll: :D
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During the airing of the finale of the Jack5ons Family Dynasty, the Administrator (the person who created the chat room) of the chatroom on TNZ's myspace came in to the room. You know it is the Administrator as they have a different icon next to their name than all the other people in the room, when you look in the list of people who are currently in the room. The Administrators screen name is Jokecalmschina. If you don't already know this name it is an anagram for Michael Jackson (rearrange the letters). Jokecalmschina is also the screen name of the person who was leaving clues in many chat rooms created by different hoax websites on the Chatango network of chat rooms and others.
23:46 xx (love) Jokecalmschina
23:48 JokeCalmsChina I have found my path and will never return!
23:48 JokeCalmsChina (love)
So is Michael Jackson the one who is really behind TNZ? and if so maybe the images, blogs and information on that myspace page should be considered more credible...
I'm sorry but I can not believe that you guys are still talking about if Michael could be behind TNZ. TNZ is BS! They're full of crap. They're people who are making their own investigation, that's all! Nothing More, Nothing Less! I don't like their attitude because they're trying to act cool like they know everything and they're trying so hard to make people believe that they're related to Michael. But that's so IMPOSSIBLE! They always thought that Michael was going to come back on the 25th of December and what happened? Nothing. Because they know NOTHING!
And about that JCC I want to remind you guys that one of the believers CONFESSED that she was the JCC who wrote on the forums. God knows who that JCC was who wrote on TNZ's page but I'm 100% SURE that it was NOT Michael! So you still pay attention to TNZ, go ahead but you can get hurt with their stupid mind games. That's all I'm saying.
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the pictures are easily made in photoshop..
and the pic of Mj looks like Jesus to me...
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During the airing of the finale of the Jack5ons Family Dynasty, the Administrator (the person who created the chat room) of the chatroom on TNZ's myspace came in to the room. You know it is the Administrator as they have a different icon next to their name than all the other people in the room, when you look in the list of people who are currently in the room. The Administrators screen name is Jokecalmschina. If you don't already know this name it is an anagram for Michael Jackson (rearrange the letters). Jokecalmschina is also the screen name of the person who was leaving clues in many chat rooms created by different hoax websites on the Chatango network of chat rooms and others.
23:46 xx (love) Jokecalmschina
23:48 JokeCalmsChina I have found my path and will never return!
23:48 JokeCalmsChina (love)
So is Michael Jackson the one who is really behind TNZ? and if so maybe the images, blogs and information on that myspace page should be considered more credible...
Im a bit confused, Im not able to watch the series as Im in the UK how did you know that, was there a computer screen in shot that you could see :?: Please could you explain for me, I think I may be a little bit "thick" today :?: :oops:
Thank you
L.O.V.E. :roll: :D
I am not sure what your question is here. I am in Canada, I was watching the show on TV and was on my computer on TNZ's myspace page. My post is about the conversation that was occurring in the chat room that is embedded on TNZ's myspace page. The chat had to be embedded on that page by the owner of the myspace page. The creator of the chat uses the screen name JokeCalmsChina (an anagram for Michael Jackson). Seems plausible then that TNZ is also JokeCalmsChina.
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During the airing of the finale of the Jack5ons Family Dynasty, the Administrator (the person who created the chat room) of the chatroom on TNZ's myspace came in to the room. You know it is the Administrator as they have a different icon next to their name than all the other people in the room, when you look in the list of people who are currently in the room. The Administrators screen name is Jokecalmschina. If you don't already know this name it is an anagram for Michael Jackson (rearrange the letters). Jokecalmschina is also the screen name of the person who was leaving clues in many chat rooms created by different hoax websites on the Chatango network of chat rooms and others.
23:46 xx (love) Jokecalmschina
23:48 JokeCalmsChina I have found my path and will never return!
23:48 JokeCalmsChina (love)
So is Michael Jackson the one who is really behind TNZ? and if so maybe the images, blogs and information on that myspace page should be considered more credible...
I'm sorry but I can not believe that you guys are still talking about if Michael could be behind TNZ. TNZ is BS! They're full of crap. They're people who are making their own investigation, that's all! Nothing More, Nothing Less! I don't like their attitude because they're trying to act cool like they know everything and they're trying so hard to make people believe that they're related to Michael. But that's so IMPOSSIBLE! They always thought that Michael was going to come back on the 25th of December and what happened? Nothing. Because they know NOTHING!
And about that JCC I want to remind you guys that one of the believers CONFESSED that she was the JCC who wrote on the forums. God knows who that JCC was who wrote on TNZ's page but I'm 100% SURE that it was NOT Michael! So you still pay attention to TNZ, go ahead but you can get hurt with their stupid mind games. That's all I'm saying.
The person claiming to have made a JCC clue may have done so but is a JCC clue the same as a JokeCalmsChina clue? This person claims to have made ONE clue not all of them. Were they logged in to Jokecalmschina's actual registered chat room account or did they use a temporary name when they left this supposed clue? Which clue was it they left? As I am aware of whom this person is, ie. their twitter, chat account etc. I am sorry but they are just not that intelligent to be behind TNZ in my opinion. Besides they are pretty busy running a forum and spewing hatred on twitter to also maintain TNZ's myspace and offer interesting tweets in response to others inquiries on twitter.