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by bestforlast » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:21 pm

I think this "booking" is interesting.
I looked at the case number


It begins with SA so I thought I would check the website.
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I can find the meaning of the first letter S but not the A. Would someone have another look for me incase I am missing something please?
Also I find it interesting that according to Chernoff website, the legal firm specialises in cases involving drink driving.
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I saw this last week. It really does not make sense.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: in GERMANY over Christmas
« on: February 14, 2010, 11:08:17 AM »
look at the time on the clock on this twitter account; 14.55 or 2.55. Any link to the courtroom clocks or the judges's watch??

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Murray left voicemail
« on: February 14, 2010, 07:58:01 AM »
Quote from: "karmaknowstruth"
:?: Finally we are back to the content of that voicemail which has bugged me for a long while.  If you haven't seen this post from last week.......
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WHO is in on the HOAX ? ? ? ?

 :arrow: Postby karmaknowstruth » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:51 pm
With everything about to hit the fan and with MJ's fans there on the scene along with more media sources ever in almost 8 months brace yourselves for whatever shit hits.

We can speculate or we can simply sit back and watch the show. I just prey that MJ fans and others do not instigate a riot.

The fact that DR Murray is finally now in the present spotlight and with all his very strange behavior and after watching the Dateline special last Saturday, the time line of events sure do seem intentional leading up to unexpected revelations.

It seems obvious to us there is in fact a death hoax going on, but how will we ever know for sure who is in on the death hoax??

 :shock:  Murray could be the patsy.
 :twisted: Murray could be a murderer.
 :oops: Murray could have made a neglectful mistake

MURRAY COULD VERY WELL BE IN ON THE HOAX, but screwed up during the plan.

The newly reveled exclusive (from Dateline) cell phone message Murray gave to his patient Bob Russell is really bugging me A LOT. I got to wondering why Murray would say he gave MJ propofal @ 10:50, then leave the room to pee and make a phone call 4 minutes later. Was that phone call spoken in code to let Bob know some plan had been put into action ?
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Excerpt from Dateline story:
But Dr. Murray's cell phone records tell a very different story, according to the LAPD. They show that during the time that Murray says he was monitoring Jackson --essential for someone under the influence of Propofol-- the doctor was on the phone, calling a friend, his medical office - and his patient - Bob Russell. Murray got Russell's voicemail. We've obtained the message he left.

Here is the entire phone message Murray left to his patient Bob:

"This is Doctor Murray, Bob. Hi, how are you? Um, sorry I missed you.
Just wanted to talk to you about your results of the EECP. You did quite well on the study.
We would love to continue to see you as a patient even though I may have to be absent from my practice for uh-because of an overseas sabbatical."


"Sorry I missed you..." would this mean that Bob had called him but Murray wasn't able to answer his phone? And when is it normal practice that a patient has a Dr's cell number or a Dr calls patients from their cell phone outside the office setting, (oh, I forgot that doc Murray wasn't practicing any longer). I guess it was a Thursday normal business hours, eh?

"Just wanted to talk to you about your results of the EECP. You did quite well on the study."
FYI >>>>
Enhanced External Counterpulsation Treatment (EECP) is a treatment, not a study.


Please if you want a quick lesson on EECP treatment here's a link.
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An EECP study is quite a time involved treatment, that was not done by Murray personally. Talking to Bob about the results would mean Bob saying if he was feeling better, not Murray giving him some sort of test results.
Someone please tell me if I'm wrong in assuming that.

"We would love to continue to see you as a patient even though I may have to be absent from my practice for uh-because of an overseas sabbatical".

Everyone knows (and Dateline confirmed) that Murray left his practice in early 2009 to be MJs personal doctor,so why did Murray repeat it to Bob in the cell message?

Was this a hidden code saying things are in action so I will be seeing you soon so I can hide out with you? Or could it be saying "We would love to continue to see you as a patient even thought I MAY HAVE TO BE ABSENT FROM....MAY being the key word used here.
Did Murray say it that way knowing he may or may not be absent from his practice because of something that had just happened or was about to happen, HOAX or MURDER?
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A few Definitions of sabbatical:
>>An extended period of leave, often one year long, taken by an employee in order to carry out projects not otherwise associated with the employee's job. ...
>>Noun 1. sabbatical leave - a leave usually taken every seventh year
>>sabbatical leave a year or shorter period of absence for study, rest, or travel, given at interval.
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This is Bob's comment from the Dateline interview concerning Murray's sabbatical indicating that obviously he already knew about it before Murray's cell phone message.

Bob Russell: "He was so excited. I mean it was just evident-- with his excitement and-- you know, kind of repeating, "Hey, I'm going to-- you know, I'm going with Michael and I'm heading off to Europe." He was just like, you know, a kid ready to do a cartwheel, "Man, I'm-- I'm-- I'm heading up the mountaintop.
I think he just got enamored with the-- the star, the-- wow-- I-- I don't know how to-- how to define it.

In your mind is BOB RUSSEL involved deeper with Murray than we know?

Here is Bob's final comment he made during the Dateline interview:
Bob Russell: "I'm going to say that I-- I don't want to believe it. It is hard to reconcile the doctor they describe as saving their lives with one who could take a life by giving a patient a potentially deadly drug without the proper safeguards in place simply because that famously rich, troubled patient asked for it.
The comeback tour that never happened could have been memorable for both the artist and his physician. It seemed so perfect for both of them. The weeks ahead may provide answers to how all of that ended in tragedy for both doctor and patient."

Some further review information and and videos I ran across while researching Conrad Murray.
Snyderman says what I remember that Murray did not ride in the ambulance with MJ and was missing.....perhaps went to hide out at Bob's?
NBC interview with Dr Nancy Snyderman NBC News Chief Medical Editor
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DR. MURRAY SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR - MICHAEL JACKSON - "THREATENED"
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Watch the beginning showing Murray's lawsuits & debts against him
and that he was hired by AEG but MJ never signed the pmt contract.

MICHAEL JACKSON's death - MONEY- Suspicious behavior, Nurse lee and others-
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comment on blackskinqueen's youtube channel

OH! And BTW! I just read where Dr. Murray hired the same lawyer that got this nurse off the hook for administering the SAME drug to a patient that died.......It's been 7? months now? This is terrible. It's soo obvious that this Dr. is shaky and very guilty of negliance! (sp?) I'm still sick over the disrespect Michael has endured while he was alive AND NOW in death!

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CONRAD MURRAY VIDEO MESSAGE: "Truth will prevail"
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I think there is more to Murray than we know right now. I sure hope Michael doesn't have to come out of hiding to save his sorry ass, what a mess for MJ that would be.

What do you thing about Murray and Bob? Is Bob involved?
Am I thinking way too deeply?

xoxoxo
Interesting post.You have a point. Maybe Dr Murray KNEW that he was not going to be around and that is why he mentioned an overseas sabbatical.
If he was employed to be Mj's doctor in the UK, then it would not be considered a sabbatical no? It would be employment?
I looked at the meaning of sabbatical:
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Noun   1.   sabbatical leave - a leave usually taken every seventh year
sabbatical
leave, leave of absence - the period of time during which you are absent from work or duty; "a ten day's leave to visit his mother"
sabbatical year - a sabbatical leave lasting one year

Noun

Singular
sabbatical
      
Plural
sabbaticals

sabbatical (plural sabbaticals)

   1. An extended period of leave, often one year long, taken by an employee in order to carry out projects not otherwise associated with the employee's job. During the sabbatical, the employer may pay some or all of the wages that would have been otherwise earned or some or all of the expenses incurred. University lecturers, for example, may be granted a one-year paid sabbatical once every seven years.



Being in jail may constitute to a sabbatical?? ;)

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Other Odd Things / Re: Who is this man?
« on: February 14, 2010, 06:14:05 AM »
Quote from: "TinkerbellLovesMJ"
Quote from: "karmaknowstruth"
I'm starting to think it is extremely important to examine all photos with a magnifying glass to sort out and ID and keep track of the extras in the crowd.

For instance, in the photo above please look at the sheriff standing in the back between Murray and the sheriff.  Does he look similar to the bald man in the helicopter body transport photos?  

Because I really believe in a death hoax and believe Murray is part of the hoax I believe that Michael has certain people doing tasks.  So if we compare photos and see the same people showing up we need to find out who they are.

I have to leave my computer for awhile.  If anyone happens to have the helicopter transport photo handi, could you compare?  Be back later, thanks

xoxoxo
Excellent post! I totally agree with you about examining all photos to keep track of everyone in them. I think they might provide clues too. Here is a close up of the helicopter transport. Its the closest I could come to finding a clear picture of the bald man. The other shots and video footage are all shot from up above and hard to zoom in close to see the faces up close.
I think this may be the bald guy ( when Debbie Rowe called the cops July)
Second picture down, got his back to us and looking left
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compare him to the one from this picture

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Michael Jackson News / Re: DOES DEBBIE ROWE KNOWS SOMETHING?
« on: February 14, 2010, 05:52:48 AM »
I think this is an interesting coincidence.
KIRSCHE posted this in this thread ( credit goes to Kirsche)
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Look at the arrest picture for Michael Joseph Jackson AKA Malcolm Moore.

Note where the arrest took place.. PALMDALE.
According to Wikipedia Debbie Rowe has a ranch in PALMDALE.

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Coincidence or interesting???

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Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "MJsDangerousGirl"
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Okay maybe this is nothing!  But I found this VERY interesting.  Go and type in MJJ.  Just put in Michael Joseph Jackson.  It pops up some Malcolm Moore guy w/ an alias of MJJ...??

clue?  not a clue?  I am lame.???  :?

Okay...I did like you said. I've put in Michael Joseph Jackson without the DOB
and first came this[attachment=1:jed3nqxl]EEk.JPG[/attachment:jed3nqxl]


And then I clicked the Booking Number and this came up...


Kirsche BRILLIANT FIND!
I find interesting that the area of the arrest was PALMDALE. Is this a coincidence? According to Wikipedia, Debbie Rowe lives in erm... Palmdale!!!
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Also the day before, when they were executing the search warrants, July 28th, Debbie Rowe was photographed going to Arnold Klein's office.
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According to this website, the time line is interesting.

The "arrest" and booking day was Wednesday July 29th 2009. A lot happened 2 days later according to this:
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Friday July 31, 2009:

    * Jackson’s mother to retain guardianship of kids; Debbie Rowe gets visitation
    * Michael Jackson's mother Katherine wins custody of his three children... but Debbie Rowe will have visitation
    * Jackson's Mum gets custody of kids, Debbie Rowe gets visits
    * Debbie Rowe To Get Visitation Rights Under Custody Agre...
    * Michael Jackson's mother Katherine wins custody of his children... but Debbie Rowe will have visiting rights
    * Debbie Rowe Gets $4M For Ending Custody Fight: Report
    * Michael's mum to take the children in custody agreement with Debbie Rowe
    * Michael Jackson's mom to keep kids; Debbie Rowe gets visitation
    * Debbie Rowe gets visitation, but Katherine Jackson keeps custody of Michael Jackson's kids under new agreement
    * Michael Jackson's mother - not Debbie Rowe - will get permanent custody of singer's three kids
    * Debbie Rowe pleased with custody decision
    * Michael's Mom Gets Custody of Kids; Debbie Rowe Gets Visits, No Cash
    * Debbie Rowe wants Jackson's kids to see a shrink
    * Debbie Rowe's Attorney Applauds Her "Selflessness" Settling Custody
    * JACKSON CUSTODY ARRANGEMENT REACHED: Katherine will get the kids; Debbie Rowe to have visitation for her two.
    * Katherine Jackson, Debbie Rowe Reach Custody Agreement
    * TMZ Lumps Steve Jobs With Debbie Rowe and Mel Gibson

Tuesday July 28, 2009:

    * Debbie Rowe stays quiet on custody

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TMZ Articles / Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Life Is a Carnival
« on: February 14, 2010, 05:38:45 AM »
This is interesting.
According to the Trinidad Express,

Entertainment news network TMZ.com yesterday reported that, according to the American Board of Medical Specialties directory, Murray was a specialist in internal medicine and that he was born in 1953 in Grenada. He received his medical degree in 1989 from Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tennessee.

Local residents, schoolmates and neighbours, including doctors from the St Clair Medical Centre in St Clair, however, told the Express that Murray grew up in San Juan.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Dr. Murray- Clothes 2005????
« on: February 14, 2010, 05:33:15 AM »
Quote from: "akiraka"
Quote from: "imabeliever2"
Hmmm. it is strange that he's wearing the same clothes, but I noticed the watch is different.  I too have a few outfits that I wore 5+ years ago that I can still wear today and still be in touch with style.  ;)

Oh, come on ! He is a rich guy! Can you think a man like him could wear 4 years same pants??????
Be resonable!

Look at his car!


How do we not know that a lot of photos were done in one go and then released afterwards at strategic points?

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I find it interesting that this Malcolm Moore was arrested the day after the search warrants were executed and evidence collected. Also, he wasn't offically jailed till January which means and this is JUST a theory.
IF MJ was still alive and he went to his memorial as some have said, he could have done so according to this inmate find.
The search warrants have been executed and they have found that he had prescriptions in false names which is a criminal offence. I don't think the poor man could go through any more publicity and anyway he had passed no? So everything was done quietly and privately. ( unusually.) The media were sent in an another direction. I kept thinking why were some of the will and custody hearings done in private and some information released? This could be a reason. IF, this is the same person, then custody etc would need to be arranged.
Another angle, is indeed this is the real doctor that was treating Michael and after the search warrants, they arrested him and the video released of the "child payments" was actually the sentencing or something to do with it.
I believe where the clothes are concerned that this is important ( someone pointed that out already, not wishing to take credit). If someone is in jail with no visitors, then he has basically the clothes off his back as he would have to wear prison uniform I would assume. The man who is portrayed as CM ( for we don't really know do we?) has had a lot of "PR" photos wearing the same clothes.
The court appearance in January, dark suit and yellow tie matched the PR photo of him infront of his practice.


The beige suit with red tie that he wore on court day and then to go backto work 2 days later.
The video released saying he was in "hiding"
We do not know in what timespan these could have been taken. I assume, that the ones with similar clothing were taken all together and then released at different times for PR.
The tracksuit and the carnvial.. the picture of him in a tracksuit with his lawyer might have been after the "photoshoot"!  There was one picture released last year of him barechested at a "carnival" but nothing else. Now all these surface! It is very easy to be at a carnival for photo purposes; get some people in costume, a set and there you go, you are in Trinidad. Remember, Chernoff said about his flight risk than other to visit his mother he has not been out of the country.
We are assuming theories (even me) on what we have been fed; even the inmate details ( which is EXCELLANT!!)
Interestingly, the brothers went to Santa Barbara on lockdown. NCCF which is on the inmate record is just over the way from SB on the other side of the mountains and is the county where Neverland is situated. Also, it is near where the trials took place in 2005.
I am sorry I have written a long post. Does anyone think this is plausable?

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Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "bestforlast"
It is a brilliant find!!!
Did anyone see that in the Jacksons tv programme, they went to Kilpatrick, a juvenile correctional center?
I was curious about this so looked on wikipedia.
There was a film made in this center and the supervisor's character name was Malcolm Moore!!
The film is Gridiron gang.
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 :shock: wow again, i admit, i do have my doubts sometimes (leaning more towards murder with a tendency to a possible hoax) but this is too much of a 'coincidence'.
i did say last year: what if this was the greatest hoax in history? (after the ambulance pic came out) and people literally pulled out the straightjackets behind their backs. and i say this again: if anyone can pull something like this off, it's michael jackson.  
 
keep convincing me, guys!  :D

True Story
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Real-Life Porter

Perhaps the most meaningful day on the set was the afternoon some of the real characters from the Gridiron Gang documentary paid a visit to the production at Camp Kilpatrick. Coaches Sean Porter (now a probation camp director in Valencia, California) and Malcolm Moore (the former USC and NFL great who is currently a deputy probation officer in Antelope Valley, California) got to meet their acting counterparts. (Two players on the 1990 Mustangs team also came face-to-face with the actors who portray them in the film).
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I think this is just coincidence but I will put it out there.
Also This Christmas the film, Laz Alonso who was in Avatar ( I think) played a character called Malcolm Moore
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It is a brilliant find!!!
Did anyone see that in the Jacksons tv programme, they went to Kilpatrick, a juvenile correctional center?
I was curious about this so looked on wikipedia.
There was a film made in this center and the supervisor's character name was Malcolm Moore!!
The film is Gridiron gang.
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Isn't it in the public interest that it is made public? He may not be a celebrity in his own right but the case he is involved in, is high profile. When OJ was arrested, his mugshot was publicised. Also, the mugshot could "prove" that he was actually arrested and charged. The paper we have been provided with just states a name with no picture. Heck I could be CM or anyone of us!
 It has never been a problem with any other high profile case involving a celebrity. A copy of the mugshot has always been released; I remember Hugh Grant!!
Seems strange to me and not "in the norm".
If I was in the family, I would want "proof" other than a piece of paper that an arrest had been made.
(NOTE I know he voluntarily surrendered himself but on the papers released, he was arrested nonetheless)

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Other Odd Things / Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
« on: February 13, 2010, 07:08:35 AM »
Quote from: "mehere"
Somewhere buried in this thread is the my post about the yellow taxi.
IThere's a song written by Joni MItchell Big Yellow Taxi and has been resung by many current artists
One of the versus reads
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
‘Til it's gone

Also the song talks about what people are doing to the environment, etc.

Just a thought!

I apologise as I didn't see your post about the lyrics before I posted them on this thread. there was no intent to take any credit at all.
When I saw the cab, my initial thought was the song and started to hum it in my head and thought the lyrics appropriate.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Who is this man?
« on: February 13, 2010, 07:05:15 AM »
Just saw the pictures of Conrad murray at the carnival in 2005 from TMZ.
I thought it strange that it looks like the guy on the far left is the same guy that has been accompanying Murray of late, who I thought initially was his bodyguard. ( look at his earring on left ear)
If he is a bodyguard, why was he with Murray in "2005"???
What do you think?

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Also in October 2009 ( the date of birth states 13 Oct)
Katherine, Tito, Marlon & Jackie are in London. Jermaine is in India.
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Interesting Tito is reportedly to have been born on 15th October 1953.

TIMELINE

May 14, 1951: Jackie Jackson was born.

October 15, 1953: Tito Jackson was born.

December 11, 1954: Jermaine Jackson was born.

March 12, 1957: Marlon Jackson was born.

August 29, 1958: Michael Jackson is born in Gary, Indiana.

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