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Re: TIAI 11/18Postby bec » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:50 am QuoteTarja wrote:Talking about what I said today: mindcontrol through religious procedures. It's the proof that I was right. It is the typical way of taking the things into people if they are aware their theories don't catch as many people as they want. I simply don't agree with the brainwashing the Bible still does on people and how people still guide themselves after it. And because TS in almost all his redirects gives quotes from the Bible it implies: read the Bible or stick out of this. And I don't think Michael wants everyone to be numbed by the Bible and either I think he discriminates those who don't believe in it. Messages should be sent for everyone not just for a part of the comunity. Michael's message is unity and not discrimination. He never showed any sign of leading people into believing in the Bible or any other religious book, either he discredited those with different beliefs. Such way of believing and such way of regarding the God fact takes away half of people's own personality. they are not able to think for themselves because God already said what is good and what is bad, what they should or shouldn't do. people become numb. This is the exact word in my opinion: numb I want to understand everything regarding this hoax and I do not accept the theory: read the Bible or just stick out of it. It is not what Michael stands for, it is not in his nature. And the bad feeling that TS gives me because of this increases since 5-6 months agoI agree with you, Tarja.But I don't necessarily take TS's redirects this way. This is MJ's hoax so if these verses mean something to him, and he is trying to express himself through them to us, then it doesn't matter whether I believe in the book or not. It's a sign, an encouragement, a clue, whatever, but I don't see it as a command or philosophy promotion.I take it more like those poetry magnets. You put together words and phrases to make a poem. TS uses web pages the same way. Bible quotes are easy to isolate and are highly metaphorical. Might be less a religious message and more a faith based message that we are supposed to get from it.
Tarja wrote:Talking about what I said today: mindcontrol through religious procedures. It's the proof that I was right. It is the typical way of taking the things into people if they are aware their theories don't catch as many people as they want. I simply don't agree with the brainwashing the Bible still does on people and how people still guide themselves after it. And because TS in almost all his redirects gives quotes from the Bible it implies: read the Bible or stick out of this. And I don't think Michael wants everyone to be numbed by the Bible and either I think he discriminates those who don't believe in it. Messages should be sent for everyone not just for a part of the comunity. Michael's message is unity and not discrimination. He never showed any sign of leading people into believing in the Bible or any other religious book, either he discredited those with different beliefs. Such way of believing and such way of regarding the God fact takes away half of people's own personality. they are not able to think for themselves because God already said what is good and what is bad, what they should or shouldn't do. people become numb. This is the exact word in my opinion: numb I want to understand everything regarding this hoax and I do not accept the theory: read the Bible or just stick out of it. It is not what Michael stands for, it is not in his nature. And the bad feeling that TS gives me because of this increases since 5-6 months ago
@ traja...... can i just say " I hear you"? thank you for that post. Needed to be said and thank you for saying it. Just my opinion
Quote from: "LovelyLurker"@ traja...... can i just say " I hear you"? thank you for that post. Needed to be said and thank you for saying it. Just my opinionI felt like saying that. Couldn't shut up. You are one of the very few who "feel" what I said in those messages. Thank you, LovelyLurker. At least I am not alone
But I don't necessarily take TS's redirects this way. This is MJ's hoax so if these verses mean something to him, and he is trying to express himself through them to us, then it doesn't matter whether I believe in the book or not. It's a sign, an encouragement, a clue, whatever, but I don't see it as a command or philosophy promotion.I take it more like those poetry magnets. You put together words and phrases to make a poem. TS uses web pages the same way. Bible quotes are easy to isolate and are highly metaphorical. Might be less a religious message and more a faith based message that we are supposed to get from it.
diggyon » Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:22 am Tarja wrote:LovelyLurker wrote:@ traja...... can i just say " I hear you"? thank you for that post. Needed to be said and thank you for saying it. Just my opinionI felt like saying that. Couldn't shut up. You are one of the very few who "feel" what I said in those messages. Thank you, LovelyLurker. At least I am not aloneHi,actually I'm not Christian but I do believe in the Bible. I also respect other religions and their Holy Books. So for me it's a matter of respect rather than belief. And yes, Michael is sending us messages through Bible passeges. So what's wrong with that?! The passeges can be interpreted and the message can be understood!!! What if he has used passegs from the Talmud or the Quran!? It's only a message he is sending to us. All we need is to understand the message and not think about the Holy Book from which it comes from!!!!! I think we have all come too far with this subject. There is really no need to discuss that any more. Again: the Bible passeges should be interprited and understood, nothing more nothing lessPeace
Hi,actually I'm not Christian but I do believe in the Bible. I also respect other religions and their Holy Books. So for me it's a matter of respect rather than belief. And yes, Michael is sending us messages through Bible passeges. So what's wrong with that?! The passeges can be interpreted and the message can be understood!!! What if he has used passegs from the Talmud or the Quran!? It's only a message he is sending to us. All we need is to understand the message and not think about the Holy Book from which it comes from!!!!! I think we have all come too far with this subject. There is really no need to discuss that any more. Again: the Bible passeges should be interprited and understood, nothing more nothing lessPeace