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Lady J

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How can we be sure that these documents are real and were not modified in any way?

good point.
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Quote from: "FarAway"
How can we be sure that these documents are real and were not modified in any way?

good point.



yep because tsometimes...she doesnt look like elvis or Priscilla at all.....
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OKAY, EVERBODY! THAT\'S A WRAP!

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thank you, @onemoretime  ;)
I appreciate your comment/infos!
yes... same here! I am a bit confused  :?

Thank you for your kind words.  :)

The additional information on this topic by you, jessicakthx and the other posters is quite informative.

Either the woman, claiming to be the real LM, is fake, or she is another unknown daughter of Elvis, we won't know, until she undergoes a DNA-test, which will be difficult. Or she fears the truth either way.

It is a story, credible in parts, but for me not plausible enough all in all.
And as I mentioned, the little ones, she presents, don't resemble her "father" at all, I think.
LMP, Michael's wife, as a baby and toddler, very much looks like the LMP, when she got older.
But that is only my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised, if another truth were found out, even one, nobody had thought of yet.

If she really had promised half of Graceland to the person, who finds the ultimate proof, her being the heir to the throne, then it might be easier to find some (Swedish) scientists to back her up, in order to probably get the reward.

Elvis had the same problem as Michael. Everybody wanted the best for (from) him - a part of the cake (his money).
As soon as money is involved, the alarm-bells ring first. And then rationality sets in. What are the motives behind the concern - sincere or not.
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paula-c

! shit! A thousand times shit !,... more than double, double .. more documents whom I can tell you this, that or my family for them I'm crazy .. I would place a straitjacket :shock:  :lol:
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Quote from: "suspicious mind"
seriously though if we ourselves want to retain any crediblilty to the original intent of the forum we CAN NOT go down every path that leads in some strange direction. if we give credence to every off beat thought as a possiblility then we might as well just say we accept micheal having someone hooking him up to an iv of propofol every night to go to sleep.as far as the mj - lmp marriage. if there was motive other than genuine affection it was probably for the most part just to get some people goat.


AGREED!!
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Quote from: "LieBecomesTheTruth"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
seriously though if we ourselves want to retain any crediblilty to the original intent of the forum we CAN NOT go down every path that leads in some strange direction. if we give credence to every off beat thought as a possiblility then we might as well just say we accept micheal having someone hooking him up to an iv of propofol every night to go to sleep.as far as the mj - lmp marriage. if there was motive other than genuine affection it was probably for the most part just to get some people goat.


AGREED!!
second that
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I love you Michael...as much as you love super soaker fights!!! xD

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MashMike

in my humble opinion this girl has nothin' to do with LMP, she is fake, the real LMP is the one whom we know who was married with MJ she looks the same as she was a little kid
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NO BROKEN BRIDGES CAN TURN US AROUND,CAUSE WHAT WE\'RE SEARCHING FOR, WILL SOON BE FOUND,CAUSE WE\'RE ALMOST THERE, JUST ONE MORE STEP,JUST ONE MORE STEP,DON\'T GIVE UP CAUSE WE\'RE ALMOST THERE

Wow ye guys are amazing.. Ur doing a better job than the FBI lol... Ya should send this to TMZ about the fake marriage and see if they can come up with anything  :lol:  :lol: I do think its really MJ thou or do I my mind is so messed up.. It is MJ...

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In Our Darkest Hour, In My Deepest Despair
Will You Still Care? Will You Be There?
In My Trials And My Tripulations
Through Our Doubts And Frustrations
In My Violence, In My Turbulence
Through My Fear And My Confessions
In My Anguish And My Pain
Through My Joy And My Sorrow
In The Promise Of Another Tomorrow
I\'ll Never Let You Part, For You\'re Always In My Heart.

I am sure its Lisa's double, and IMO Michael isn't fool to marry a double. So it was Michael's double too. May be it was done coz of those ugly charges !! ? Maybe...
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FYI ..  this woman who was claiming to be the real Lisa Marie was sued by her publishing agent as she backed out of a DNA test...  so she refused to take a DNA test to prove her claims.

The end.
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paula-c

As I'm reading in the paper That Appears as a marriage certificate, is an affidavit, Said That Appeared Michael Joseph Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley, Each One Brings Their personal data, passport number, place of residence, age, parents Who are historical , occupation. In the bottom paragraph reads as follows, Also I Have Declared Both testified, Also under the Faith of the oath, Wishing to marry, to Have legal capacity and are free to contract it, That Among Them There is no impediment, so this marriage Which "Could not be Celebrate" (here I Do Not Understand That CAN NOT be Held Does Not Because I say), and Therefore, compliance with Legal Requirements to celebrate. All of Which Is Raised In These minutes signed by the Spouses together to certify and give me Faith, in compliance with the Provisions of Act number 659, on Acts of civil status, paragraph 4) of Article 68
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Quote from: "Puff"
Lisa Marie Presley is known to the world for two reasons: She is Elvis's daughter and she is the heir to a 100 million dollar trust. She is also the woman that married Michael Jackson.
But actually we don't know very much about her, very little of her life story has reached the press.
Is the woman married to Michael Jackson really Lisa Marie? Many are in doubt - Hakan Borglund (Sweden) has spent years to prove that she is not.
Aftonbladet's reporter Annika Sundbaum-Melin has searched for the truth for four months. Dentists, odontologists and laymen have been heard. This
is her report.

"Lisa Marie is a fraud"

Swedish scientists: Elvis's real daughter disappeared 1978.

The woman who is married to Michael Jackson is not Lisa Marie Presley!

That is the sensational statement of two Swedish scientists who have been investigating Lisa Marie Presley for several years.

- The real Lisa Marie ceased to appear in the press as early as 1978, says Mr Hakan Borglund at the University of Uppsala and Mr Greger Johnson, scientist at the University of Lund.
Hakan Borglund has dedicated the last five years to study the facts about Elvis Presley's only child. At this point he is of the opinion that he has evidence that the Lisa Marie Presley portrayed in the press is a double and not the real thing.

- 1982 the double appears in the press for the first time, after that,for a period of five years there wasn't any pictures published of Lisa Marie whatsoever. That was during the pubertal facial growth spurt, when the face changes the most, explains Mr Borglund , who is a Master of Science in Computer Technology at the University of Uppsala.

Mr Borglund has done a facial analysis of Lisa Marie based on earlier doctor dissertations concerning the facial pubertal growth of among others 25 girls of Northern European ethnic origin born in Denver.

"Not even a surgeon can shrink the skull"

- I have compared pictures of Lisa Marie at the age of nine and the pictures that are taken recently. It shows that Lisa Marie's skull have shrunk 13 percent after puberty. A skull can not shrink ,it is impossible even if you have the most skilled surgeon to help you, says Mr Borglund.

Head Dentist Dr Christer Ekstrom, who himself has done research on facial growth and done a thesis on the subject is not quite as sure as to Mr.
Borglund's evidence.

- The time between nine and 18 years of age is a long period of time in matters concerning biology, great individual variations are possible. I have read Mr Borglund's analysis and I am impressed of his work. The analysis is not good as an absolute proof, I would concider it as circumstancial evidence that we are dealing with two different persons , and he may very well be correct in his conclusion.

Greger Johnson, Scientist at the University of Lund agrees with Mr Borglund.

- Mr Borglund's facial analysis is a piece of solid workmanship that in a scientific way shows that the person now calling herself Lisa Marie is a double.

"Lisa Marie's life was in danger"

Bill Beeny, the owner of an Elvis museum in St: Louis has quoted Mr Borglund's analysis in a talkshow on American TV.

- I know that Mr Borglund is right. I have other information that confirms Mr Borglund's analysis. The real Lisa Marie is living undercover and she was moved away at a very early stage, because of serious threats of kidnapping the family recieved when Lisa Marie was a little girl. Producing a double was the only way to protect her since her life was in danger, says Mr. Beeny.

"A DNA-test would prove that we are right"

- My personal theory is that everything started out to protect a child and that it somewhere went wrong on the way. Lisa Marie is an adult now, and has to be allowed to live her own life, not to be hidden away in the shadow of a lookalike. A DNA-test would proof that we are right, says Mr Beeny.

But, Why?

- Yes, why hasn't Lisa Marie gotten her inheritance yet? Why is Graceland and her money run by her mother and the Church of Scientology?

- I don't really speculate in why, I just whant to find out where the real Lisa Marie is, says Mr Borglund.

CAPTIONS:

1. Mr Hakan Borglund, University of Uppsala, and Mr Greger Jonsson, scientist at the University of Lund (upper left corner), are convinced
that Lisa Marie is a fraud.

2. The real Lisa Marie-this is what she should look like. This is how Elvis Presley's daughter looks like today , when the picture of her is produced by a state of the art computer. The picture is based on three separate pictures, one each of her parents 20 and one of Lisa Marie age nine. The media company Gothenburg Experience, Inc. has produced  the image with a morphing program in a very powerful computer by letting the three pictures blend into one and showing a picture of Lisa Marie at age 26.

3. Fake Lisa Marie-this is what she looks like. This is what the woman looks like that married Michael Jackson. But this is not Lisa Marie Presley
according to Swedish scientists Mr Greger Johnson and Mr Hakan Borglund.

- I have compared pictures of Lisa Marie at age nine with current pictures of her. The result is that her head has shrunk by 13 percent since puberty.
A cranium can not shrink as you get older even if the most skilled surgeon would help you, it is impossible, says Mr Borglund.

4. "The cranium has shrunk by 13 percent- it is impossible"

The solid line shows the size of Lisa Marie's cranium at age nine, the dotted line shows her double's size of the cranium today, 17 years later.

If this was Lisa MarieABs cranium it would have had to shrink 13 percent, according to Mr BorglundABs analysis, which is medically impossible.

Mr Borglund has conducted measurements of Lisa Marie's facial proportions on 38 official pictures of her. The measurements are based on the Canadian thesis " The pattern of facial growth before and during puberty, as shown by French - Canadian girls".

The Canadian scientists states in their thesis from 1979 that the cranium has reached 90 percent of final size by the age of six.


Lisa Marie-year by year

1967 Elvis Presley and Priscilla Beaulieu marries

1968 Lisa Marie is born

1973 Priscilla leaves Elvis and files for divorce

1977 Elvis Presley dies. At his funeral is the nine year old Lisa Marie (her last public appearence for nine years)

Elvis leaves everything to his daughter as stated in his last will, Lisa Marie is to recieve the inheritance on her 25 birthday

Priscilla figures that she also should have some of the inheritance (even though she wasn't married to him when he passed away), she sues the estate and succeds in recieving a couple of million of Lisa Marie's inheritance.

1986 When Lisa Marie is 18 she flashes by in American magazines and then disappears again.

1988 She appears again when she marries Danny Keough whom she met at the Scientology church.

1990 After another two years she again appears in the press after having given birth to a daughter.

1992 She also gives birth to a son, but pictures of her children appears even more seldom than do the pictures of her.

1993 "People Weekly" tells that Lisa Marie and her family is living in a three-bedroom apartment in Hollywood without bodygards.

When Lisa Marie turns 25 she turns the inheritance down, worth somwhere around 100 million dollars. According to the first information in Swedish press , it was Lisa Marie's own wish that the inheritance be postponed until she is 30 since she considered herself to be to immature to handle it.
Other sources stated that Priscilla had succeded in getting Lisa Marie incapacitated. Either one have been confirmed.

Jack Soden is running Graceland Enterprises. And in the background is Priscilla who has been running the company in later years. Many say that the Scientology church has a big influence in the running of Graceland.

1994 Dee Presley , who was married to Vernon and Lisa MarieABs step-grandmother says live on american TV during the Elvis tribute from Memphis

- Priscilla is so hard and cold, I havnABt been able to met Lisa Marie since 1978.

Lisa Marie shocks the world by marrying Michael Jackson. A controversial marriage that many consider to be unvalid.

By Annika Sundbaum-Melin

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What the hel......... :shock: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi,

what do you think about this ?
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(Sorry,if this is a double post)

whoa!  :shock:
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