Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: *Mo* on May 15, 2010, 12:20:50 PM
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Michael Jackson Doc in Mid-Air Emergency
Originally posted May 15th 2010 10:14 AM PDT by TMZ Staff
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/04/09/0409_conrad_murray_ex.jpg)
Dr. Conrad Murray may have saved a life this morning ... 30,000 feet above the ground.
Sources tell TMZ Murray was on a US Air flight from Houston to Phoenix when a flight attendant came over the loudspeaker and asked if there was a doctor on board.
Turns out a passenger fainted and could not be revived. We're told Murray jumped out of his seat, evaluated the female passenger (who was in her 20s and traveling with a baby), and quickly noticed she had a "very weak pulse."
Somehow -- don't ask us -- Murray inserted an IV and was able to stabilize the passenger until the plane made an emergency landing in Albuquerque.
The passenger was taken for further treatment. Her condition is not known.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0o1HNShJ4 (http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0o1HNShJ4)
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Um.. ok. Dont really know what to say.
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What in heaven's name is this all about?
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where was he going or comimg from then????? and why??? :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
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Murray the hero..oh boy :roll: :roll:
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How very obliging of him.
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well well... he was a bad man, now he is a hero to save a woman life...great point for a courtroom...
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well well... he was a bad man, now he is a hero to save a woman life...great point for a courtroom...
No CPR this time?
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well well... he was a bad man, now he is a hero to save a woman life...great point for a courtroom...
No CPR this time?
loll don't know but i can imagine that in a courtroom...''you see, i'm able to perform CPR in the good way, your honor...'' :roll:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAIs3tUYOi4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAIs3tUYOi4)
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I don't know what to say..? Firsts murderer now a hero. Just trying to figure out what this could mean in the hoax.?
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a flight attendant came over the loudspeaker and asked if there was a doctor on board.
Nobody noticed that MICHAEL JACKSON'S doctor was with them on the same plane ??? Not ONE ?
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a flight attendant came over the loudspeaker and asked if there was a doctor on board.
Nobody noticed that MICHAEL JACKSON'S doctor was with them on the same plane ??? Not ONE ?
We will find out soon enough..
:mrgreen:
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a flight attendant came over the loudspeaker and asked if there was a doctor on board.
Nobody noticed that MICHAEL JACKSON'S doctor was with them on the same plane ??? Not ONE ?
I thought they had a list of who is on a plane - ie the name DOCTOR Murray would have given it away somewhat.
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Conny seems to be happily traveling around, without being bothered by anyone, and turns out being a hero!
Heal Murray! :lol:
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I wonder if the woman he saved will speak up for him in court.
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So they carry needles and IV equipment on board planes now? This seems very staged to me!
Most doctors would not even prescibe an IV drip without running tests first. You can get sued for that! With the trouble he is in why would he do this.
This was definately set up!
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"Somehow -- don't ask us -- Murray inserted an IV and was able to stabilize the passenger until the plane made an emergency landing in Albuquerque".
he was able to revive a person .. This shows that he is a doctor who knows how to do things? 8-)
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I thought it cannot get any crazier... but now I just cannot get the image of "Dr.Murray jumping out of his seat" out of my mind :lol: :lol: :lol: what a day...
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If we don't hear more about it..
Its just bogus.
Lets wait and see.
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They replaced the pics with these:
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/05/15/0515-conrad-murray-wm-tmz-ex-credit.jpg)
Harve must have been on the same plane! :lol:
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If Mo, Murray is very famous and the stewardess has to ask "if there is a doctor on board," nobody bothers, has its fans, ... and Arnie and Jason have to hide :lol:
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So they carry needles and IV equipment on board planes now? This seems very staged to me!
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Yes they do.. they carry life saving first aid kits on board in the event someone falls seriously ill mid air.
I dont know about the needles.. i will have to look into that because i would imagine that all the kit they carry then the air stewards should be trained to use.
Air stewards are trained to a very high standard of First Aid care. They use defibrilators, etc.
Not sure about needles.
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Mo, I agree! Maybe TMZ photographers travel with him now everywhere he goes. How convenient!
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@ Dancing, interesting to know if you get sick on a plane. You have to have a needle to insert an IV drip into a vein. They carry sterile bags of saline solution on board?
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Murray, Arnie and Jason should go for all three parties together ... Arnie and Jason so maybe do not get "horrible death threats" :lol:
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@ Dancing, interesting to know if you get sick on a plane. You have to have a needle to insert an IV drip into a vein. They carry sterile bags of saline solution on board?
I dont know.. i will have to look into it.
I know they carry extensive first aid kits. Once when i was on a plane, a chap had a heart attack in one of the toilets whilst we were in the air and i saw them using a defibrilator on him with oxygen masks, etc..
They have to carry that sort of stuff, for sure as when you are in a plane and fall ill.. then you need the stuff on board to administer first aid.. its a long way back to the ground to get help!!
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Thanks for the info, Dancing! Good to know.
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If Murray was the only Doc on board, I think I'd rather take my chances.
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Mo, I agree! Maybe TMZ photographers travel with him now everywhere he goes. How convenient!
How do you know it wasnt a member of the public who recognised Murray and took a snap.. and then sold the picture to TMZ??
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i dont know about stewards with needles.. i dont think they have needles in their first aid box..
You are not even allowed to have a little scissor in your hand-lugage.
But hey Murray is a doc, maybe there are other rules for doctors.
Btw never heard about saline solution drips in first aid kits.
They do have AED on board. (Automated External Defibrillator)
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TMZ, by chance will not have the photo of Murray doing CPR? :lol:
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Found info.. the DO carry first aid kits with needles.
There are two kits. One that the attendants can use and one that only medical professionals can use.
That must be why they put a call out for a doctor:
Each first-aid kit must be accessible to the flight attendants and include:
* bandages
* compresses for applying pressure, moisture, heat, or cold
* antiseptic swabs
* arm and leg splints
* tape
* scissors.
An airplane's medical kit must be accessible to the flight crew, but is for use only by medical professionals. It must include:
* blood pressure cuff
* stethoscope
* plastic airways to deliver oxygen to help with breathing
* nitroglycerin tablets for chest pain
* dextrose solution for hypoglycemia
* epinephrine for asthma or allergic reactions
* injectable diphenhydramine HCl for serious allergic reactions
* hypodermic needles
* protective latex gloves.
http://www.enotalone.com/article/8537.html (http://www.enotalone.com/article/8537.html)
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No travel sized Propofol?
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i think it is possible for airplane emergency equipment to contain iv and saline solution. especially on long flights, people might suffer from dehydration, so that woud be the quickest way to help that (that might have even been the whole problem...you dehydrate, you faint -> weak pulse). it's just funny that they always call for a doctor and don't have plane staff to be able to do that. what if there is no doctor on the flight? they shrug and don't do anything and let someone die cuz nobody could insert an iv? i seriously doubt that. so that 'calling for a doctor' might even be staged in the first place, especially given the fact that murray is not an unknown person and they could have just walked up to him and ask for help instead of waking the whole plane up. they cannot tell me nobody recognized him, i'm not gonna buy that. this guy is 6"6' tall, and his face has been all over the news for a solid year. it's not like one can say 'i didn't see him'. so i guess, a drama had to be created somehow...
but the whole image is really funny, supposedly noone recognizing murray and when his call comes, he jumps off to SAVE A LIFE BY INSERTING AN IV...quite the opposite of what he's accused of, but: same action - opposite effect! naturally, this is for one purpose only, to reinstate murray's qualities as a doctor (yes, he CAN save a life, too) and to prove that he's fo' real and not an actor. this is one more mark on his 'good doctor' scale, which is gonna have to weigh in heavier than the bad part for him to get off scott free. and it happened close to the trial, possibly when he was on his way to l.a. for that reason. a recent good deed, in fact, a heroic one...how convenient... :roll:
:mrgreen:
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No travel sized Propofol?
:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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i think it is possible for airplane emergency equipment to contain iv ans saline solution. especially on long flights, people might suffer from dehydration, so that woud be the quickest way to help that (that might have even been the whole problem...you dehydrate, you faint -> weak pulse). it's just funny that they always call for a doctor and don't have plane staff to be able to do that. what if there is no doctor on the flight? they shrug and don't do anything and let someone die cuz nobody could insert an iv? i seriously doubt that. so that 'calling for a doctor' might even be staged in the first place, especially given the fact that murray is not an unknown person and they could have just walked up to him and ask for help instead of waking the whole plane up. they cannot tell me nobody recognized him, i'm not gonna buy that. this guy is 6"6' tall, and his face has been all over the news for a solid year. it's not like one can say 'i didn't see him'. so i guess, a drama had to be created somehow...
but the whole image is really funny, supposedly noone recognizing murray and when his call comes, he jumps off to SAVE A LIFE BY INSERTING AN IV...quite the opposite of what he's accused of, but: same action - opposite effect! naturally, this is for one purpose only, to reinstate murray's qualities as a doctor (yes, he CAN save a life, too) and to prove that he's fo' real and not an actor. this is one more mark on his 'good doctor' scale, which is gonna have to weigh in heavier than the bad part for him to get off scott free. and it happened close to the trial, possibly when he was on his way to l.a. for that reason. a recent good deed, in fact, a heroic one...how convenient... :roll:
:mrgreen:
That poor woman will be wheeled into court to testify.
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Maybe what TMZ is saying is this:
Murray was with Michael when he noticed that Michael was faint. One of Michael's children was there. He (Dr Murray) jumped up out of his chair, reacting very quickly. He checked him (Michael) and found him to have a weak pulse. He inserted an IV as he (Michael) had been complaining of being dehydrated the day before. Medical help arrived and transported him to a hospital. His (Michael) condition is unknown at this time?
I also find odd that someone could take a picture of him IN the plane and then so quickly get it to TMZ? If I were a passenger, the last thing I would think about is getting that photo to the press. Hmm...will have to think about this some more. I don't know if the story is to be taken literally.
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excerpt from the linked tmz-article on p.1:
TMZ spoke with the woman, who tells us she got lightheaded on the flight and "fainted for like 30 minutes." She says she came to with an IV in her arm and Murray standing over her. She says he told her, "You probably know me ... I was Michael Jackson's doctor."
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0o1ZsT0Mf (http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0o1ZsT0Mf)
...and then she went: "WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!" and fainted again...
:mrgreen:
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but the whole image is really funny, supposedly noone recognizing murray and when his call comes, he jumps off to SAVE A LIFE BY INSERTING AN IV...quite the opposite of what he's accused of, but: same action - opposite effect! naturally, this is for one purpose only, to reinstate murray's qualities as a doctor (yes, he CAN save a life, too) and to prove that he's fo' real and not an actor. this is one more mark on his 'good doctor' scale, which is gonna have to weigh in heavier than the bad part for him to get off scott free. and it happened close to the trial, possibly when he was on his way to l.a. for that reason. a recent good deed, in fact, a heroic one...how convenient... :roll:
:mrgreen:
yes, how convenient...
i think that we were talking about murray not being charged... this is good for the hoax... :roll:
he need to be not guilty, because he really don´t do anything if MJ is alive...
:mrgreen:
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That poor woman will be wheeled into court to testify.
most certainly, she will. probably with a bonus to make it impossible for her not to... :mrgreen:
"REASONABLE DOUBT" !!!
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Datroot wrote:
No travel sized Propofol?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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excerpt from the linked tmz-article on p.1:
TMZ spoke with the woman, who tells us she got lightheaded on the flight and "fainted for like 30 minutes." She says she came to with an IV in her arm and Murray standing over her. She says he told her, "You probably know me ... I was Michael Jackson's doctor."
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0o1ZsT0Mf (http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0o1ZsT0Mf)
...and then she went: "WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!" and fainted again...
:mrgreen:
What the hell? That hilarious.
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She had a ''very weak pulse'' where have we heard that before. Somebody is putting in some overtime to tried and make Murray look like a hero. Lucking for her the wonderful Doc was aboard.
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voiceforthesilent, However, the interpretation may be that, that's what a lot of good minds analyzing Forum .. my brain is already fuming after almost a year in this, and many people here are seeing Michael's face in the coffee mousse Murray :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Maybe what TMZ is saying is this:
Murray was with Michael when he noticed that Michael was faint. One of Michael's children was there. He (Dr Murray) jumped up out of his chair, reacting very quickly. He checked him (Michael) and found him to have a weak pulse. He inserted an IV as he (Michael) had been complaining of being dehydrated the day before. Medical help arrived and transported him to a hospital. His (Michael) condition is unknown at this time?
I also find odd that someone could take a picture of him IN the plane and then so quickly get it to TMZ? If I were a passenger, the last thing I would think about is getting that photo to the press. Hmm...will have to think about this some more. I don't know if the story is to be taken literally.
The other thing bothering me about this story...Dr Murray is going from Houston to Phoenix on US Airlines? It might have been quicker to go straight into Phoenix. It's only a 2 hour flight tops and if you have a connecting flight you go through Colorado, not New Mexico. Flying through Colorado would put you in Denver in about 1 1/2 hours. That's just my observation but since I don't fly much that direction I may be missing something.
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voiceforthesilent, However, the interpretation may be that, that's what a lot of good minds analyzing Forum .. my brain is already fuming after almost a year in this, and many people here are seeing Michael's face in the coffee mousse Murray :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yep - I've officially lost my mind :lol: :lol:
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i was just trying to imagine what i would say if it had have been me who fainted,and came round, to see an i.v.in me ... and murrays face :lol: :lol: staring at me................sorry i am still laughing hysterically about it.............. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Fainting = unconsciousness = apparent death.
A woman with a baby = symbol of ongoing life & regeneration of life.
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well well... he was a bad man, now he is a hero to save a woman life...great point for a courtroom...
No CPR this time?
It couldn't!!!There was no bed aboard..... ;)
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hands up all those who think this has all been staged.......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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hands up all those who think this has all been staged.......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/jackotour2_380x223_808031a.jpg)
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Can you immagine if you were that woman and you came to only to find Dr. Murray standing over you and an IV in your arm? I'd be screaming "PLEASE not the PROPOFOL! NO NO NO!"
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very ,very strange :shock: was he flying business class by the way :mrgreen: things are getting weirder and weirder everyday :lol:
he couldnt save michael ,but he could save this passenger? :?
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Does this not scream
MJ AIR
???????
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I just thought of something regarding the IV:
“IV” for Roman numeral “4”...?
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I just thought of something regarding the IV:
“IV” for Roman numeral “4”...?
DO you Think 4 your Self ;)
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This is getting surreal everyday :lol: :lol: :lol: TMZ is trying to restore Murray's image. :D
Murray has supporters.
Murray has fans.
Murray saves lives.
But beware wherever Murray is an IV is there. Ok he cannot use Propfol but still.
Sunflower Heaven vs Mid-Air Emergency :idea:
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I have been medically trained as a flight attendant on an international airways.
We are taught everything except injecting. We can do CPR, adminsiter emergency medication, oxygen etc.
We are taught that a faint over a minute is not a faint but an unconscious person.
The first thing to do would be to check airway, breathing, circulation and put the person in recovery position (to avoid any kind of lack of circulation or choking etc. Then assess the situation, history etc.
Second thing is that the manifest will be checked and a Dr will be paged. It is always easier if a doctor is on board as doing anything midair could result in lawsuits. If there is no suitable Dr on board and if we cannot figure out what is wrong with the patient, then the plane would make an emergency landing.
So here is what is wrong
- it was a short flight and the girl was out for half an hour?
- attendants surely read the onboard magazines, so how come no one recognised such a tall man as DCM
- did he not mention he was a Dr while buying his ticket
- and after he introduced himself as Dr Murray, how could they trust him with the life of this girl, I know I wouldn't. Especially let him administer an IV
- where did the IV come from. All airlines don't usually carry that around on short hauls.
- they still did not say what happened to the girl, weak pulse and you administer IV. Don't they do oxygen first?
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They replaced the pics with these:
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/05/15/0515-conrad-murray-wm-tmz-ex-credit.jpg)
Harve must have been on the same plane! :lol:
OMG the show is getting better everyday :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I just thought of something regarding the IV:
“IV” for Roman numeral “4”...?
Four: The symbolic meaning of number Four deals with stability and invokes the grounded nature of all things. Consider the four seasons, four directions, four elements all these amazingly powerful essences wrapped up in the nice square package of Four. Fours represent solidity, calmness, and home. A recurrence of Four in your life may signify the need to get back to your roots, center yourself, or even "plant" yourself. Fours also indicate a need for persistence and endurance.
P.S: "plant" yourself and we had sunflowers! Four(IV) also indicates persistence and endurance. Didn't Michael ask for our patience and endurance in TII? Interesting.
Meaning of 4 in Bible:
We have seen that three signifies Divine perfection, with special reference to the Trinity: The Father, one in sovereignty; the Son, the second person, in incarnation and salvation, delivering from every enemy; the Holy Spirit, the third person, realising in us and to us Divine things.
Now the number four is made up of three and one (3+1=4), and it denotes, therefore, and marks that which follows the revelation of God in the Trinity, namely, His creative works. He is known by the things that are seen. Hence the written revelation commences with the words, "In the beginning God CREATED." Creation is therefore the next thing—the fourth thing, and the number four always has reference to all that is created. It is emphatically the number of Creation; of man in his relation to the world as created; while six is the number of man in his opposition to and independence of God. It is the number of things that have a beginning, of things that are made, of material things, and matter itself. It is the number of material completeness. Hence it is the world number, and especially the "city" number.
The fourth day saw the material creation finished (for on the fifth and sixth days it was only the furnishing and peopling of the earth with living creatures). The sun, moon, and stars completed the work, and they were to give light upon the earth which had been created, and to rule over the day and over the night (Genesis 1:14-19).
Four is the number of the great elements—earth, air, fire, and water.
Four are the regions of the earth—north, south, east, and west.
Four are the divisions of the day—morning, noon, evening, and midnight. Or in our Lord's words, when He speaks of His coming at evening, midnight, cock-crowing, or in the morning (Mark 13:35). We are never to put off His coming in our minds beyond tomorrow morning.
Four are the seasons of the year—spring, summer, autumn, and winter.
Four are the great variations of the lunar phases.
If you want to read more, here's the link: http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/4.html
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This is getting surreal everyday :lol: :lol: :lol: TMZ is trying to restore Murray's image. :D
Murray has supporters.
Murray has fans.
Murray saves lives.
But beware wherever Murray is an IV is there. Ok he cannot use Propfol but still.
Sunflower Heaven vs Mid-Air Emergency :idea:
LOL!
MAYBE MURRAY HAVE TO TRY TO HEAL THE WORLD...
MOONWALK...
NOOOO.... HE CAN´T.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
COULD YOU IMAGINE MURRAY SINGING??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Can you immagine if you were that woman and you came to only to find Dr. Murray standing over you and an IV in your arm? I'd be screaming "PLEASE not the PROPOFOL! NO NO NO!"
I don't think I'd have said that....but I would probably have asked him for a Coke. LOL :lol:
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This is getting surreal everyday :lol: :lol: :lol: TMZ is trying to restore Murray's image. :D
Murray has supporters.
Murray has fans.
Murray saves lives.
But beware wherever Murray is an IV is there. Ok he cannot use Propfol but still.
Sunflower Heaven vs Mid-Air Emergency :idea:
LOL!
MAYBE MURRAY HAVE TO TRY TO HEAL THE WORLD...
MOONWALK...
NOOOO.... HE CAN´T.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
COULD YOU IMAGINE MURRAY SINGING??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes he'll sing "DA TROOT WILL PREVAIL" song. :lol:
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So they carry needles and IV equipment on board planes now? This seems very staged to me!
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Yes they do.. they carry life saving first aid kits on board in the event someone falls seriously ill mid air.
I dont know about the needles.. i will have to look into that because i would imagine that all the kit they carry then the air stewards should be trained to use.
Air stewards are trained to a very high standard of First Aid care. They use defibrilators, etc.
Not sure about needles.
I am not so certain flight attendants are trained in anything more than basic first aid (simple situations) and perhaps basic life saving and the use of a defibrilator (no offense). Actually, that is why they call for an MD in such events and change flight plans to land to get the individual to a hospital. In any event.....I find it odd that the necessary equipment would be available to insert an IV. Plus, with todays flight restrictions I am not even certain how a trained medical professional could carry on IV catheters (with the introducer needle) because they are sharp and metal and considered dangerous, right? Odd, considering the tight flight security restrictions...after all, one cannot even carry on a tweezers or nail clipper anymore. However, I don't claim to know everything....but find the story odd, very odd and the timing impeccable considering the entire saga here. Plus, the media had to use the "faint pulse" scenario again. Again, it is odd how Dr. Murray can pump fluids into this lady to revive her but yet I heard no mention of him doing this for MJ! Seems to me he went straight to performing CPR on the bed. Wow.........makes you wanna go hmmmmm!
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OK, here's my two cents....there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that this was staged....it's just too coincidental not to be....these clues are being put out in such a subliminal way, the average person, who knows who Michael Jackson is and believes that he is dead, would never understand what is going on right in front of their eyes....but for us, the BeLIEvers, it's a smorgasboard of clues being laid out before us piece by piece...MJ Air? ABSOLUTELY!!....this man, Conny Murray, is for sure the pawn in this brilliant, huge game of chess...TMZ and The Sun are simply the means by which we are kept in the game ....MJ is showing us that he truly is The Man Behind The Curtain....his genius is OFF THE CHARTS, MAN! WOW!
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So they carry needles and IV equipment on board planes now? This seems very staged to me!
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Yes they do.. they carry life saving first aid kits on board in the event someone falls seriously ill mid air.
I dont know about the needles.. i will have to look into that because i would imagine that all the kit they carry then the air stewards should be trained to use.
Air stewards are trained to a very high standard of First Aid care. They use defibrilators, etc.
Not sure about needles.
I am not so certain flight attendants are trained in anything more than basic first aid (simple situations) and perhaps basic life saving and the use of a defibrilator (no offense). Actually, that is why they call for an MD in such events and change flight plans to land to get the individual to a hospital. In any event.....I find it odd that the necessary equipment would be available to insert an IV. Plus, with todays flight restrictions I am not even certain how a trained medical professional could carry on IV catheters (with the introducer needle) because they are sharp and metal and considered dangerous, right? Odd, considering the tight flight security restrictions...after all, one cannot even carry on a tweezers or nail clipper anymore.
How about taking fluids into the cabin? IV -> fluids. I had to throw away my 50ml bottle of perfume in order to be allowed to board, but that was on a transatlantic flight. Are there restrictions to fluids in carry on luggage on domestic flights in the US?
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So they carry needles and IV equipment on board planes now? This seems very staged to me!
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Yes they do.. they carry life saving first aid kits on board in the event someone falls seriously ill mid air.
I dont know about the needles.. i will have to look into that because i would imagine that all the kit they carry then the air stewards should be trained to use.
Air stewards are trained to a very high standard of First Aid care. They use defibrilators, etc.
Not sure about needles.
I am not so certain flight attendants are trained in anything more than basic first aid (simple situations) and perhaps basic life saving and the use of a defibrilator (no offense). Actually, that is why they call for an MD in such events and change flight plans to land to get the individual to a hospital. In any event.....I find it odd that the necessary equipment would be available to insert an IV. Plus, with todays flight restrictions I am not even certain how a trained medical professional could carry on IV catheters (with the introducer needle) because they are sharp and metal and considered dangerous, right? Odd, considering the tight flight security restrictions...after all, one cannot even carry on a tweezers or nail clipper anymore.
How about taking fluids into the cabin? IV -> fluids. I had to throw away my 50ml bottle of perfume in order to be allowed to board, but that was on a transatlantic flight. Are there restrictions to fluids in carry on luggage on domestic flights in the US?
To answer your question.....yes. On domestic flights in the US one is only permitted to have one quart size zip-loc bag to carry on any liquids, gels or creams. One has to decide what is most important to carry on and stow the rest in the check-in bag.
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Yes, Mo, there is a restriction on all flights within the US too....I don't know the exact amount of fluid ounces allowed per item, but they are basically "travel size" containers....I too had to throw out a brand new toiletry item to board a flight and it totally pissed me off! :D
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So they carry needles and IV equipment on board planes now? This seems very staged to me!
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Yes they do.. they carry life saving first aid kits on board in the event someone falls seriously ill mid air.
I dont know about the needles.. i will have to look into that because i would imagine that all the kit they carry then the air stewards should be trained to use.
Air stewards are trained to a very high standard of First Aid care. They use defibrilators, etc.
Not sure about needles.
I am not so certain flight attendants are trained in anything more than basic first aid (simple situations) and perhaps basic life saving and the use of a defibrilator (no offense). Actually, that is why they call for an MD in such events and change flight plans to land to get the individual to a hospital. In any event.....I find it odd that the necessary equipment would be available to insert an IV. Plus, with todays flight restrictions I am not even certain how a trained medical professional could carry on IV catheters (with the introducer needle) because they are sharp and metal and considered dangerous, right? Odd, considering the tight flight security restrictions...after all, one cannot even carry on a tweezers or nail clipper anymore.
How about taking fluids into the cabin? IV -> fluids. I had to throw away my 50ml bottle of perfume in order to be allowed to board, but that was on a transatlantic flight. Are there restrictions to fluids in carry on luggage on domestic flights in the US?
To answer your question.....yes. On domestic flights in the US one is only permitted to have one quart size zip-loc bag to carry on any liquids, gels or creams. One has to decide what is most important to carry on and stow the rest in the check-in bag.
Thank you! But...would a doctor actually put IV fluids in his carry on luggage..? Is there a doctor in tha house that can answer my question..? :lol:
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Somehow -- don't ask us -- Murray inserted an IV and was able to stabilize the passenger until the plane made an emergency landing in Albuquerque.
Lol as if he walks around with IV's now :lol: and how funny the pics of him on the plane not on one of them is his face clear, who knows it might not even be him and like no one would recognise this guy MJ's doc the one who does cpr on BED :roll:
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Maybe it's not that complicated, it just looks like a young woman having a hypoglycemia (e.g she didn't have a breakfast). She fainted/ got unconcious. Dr. Murray did put an IV with Dextrose, then she gets recovered. Common issue.
Someone posted above that there is Dextrose is in airplane's medical kit for use only by medical professionals, and they had Murray there. And as far as I know, Dextrose is just available in IV, fluid.
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MURRAY IS NOW A HERO, WHEN HE'S BEEN BASHED FOR "KILLING" MIKE NOW THE SAME WITH MIKE WHILE "ALIVE" HE WAS BASHED ON NOW EVERYONE LOVES HIM AND MENTIONS THEY WERE FRIENDS WITH HIM AND WOT NOT WHEN HE WAS "ALIVE" NO ONE DARED TO GO NEAR HIM I THINK WE GET THIS THE MAN IS TEACHING A LESSON FIRST A "MURDERER" NOW A "HERO"
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hands up all those who think this has all been staged.......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/jackotour2_380x223_808031a.jpg)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You're a funny, funny guy, Michael! :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Now, Michael's way of report da news is unique great journalist! What don't you do Mike? I find it hard to believe the dude would set up an IV look we weren't born yesterday and Mike knows that so clues clues and clues!!! Mike is gonna mess up the media so bad the man is nice, but never mess with da man every again. Apparently nice dude is a prankster who knew this could be wow you've gone far Mike keep it up you're having the last laugh and we having it with you :lol:
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So weird but mmmmm... :?
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Somehow this doesn't look like the same Murray I have seen in a suit before. See I've been bickering all over this board about Murray in a suit holding his gut up lol, and holding his coat closed and now he "saves a life and appears in a thin shirt!!!!!" They are trying to shoot down my Murray is Michael theory. Because MJ can't put in IVs, at least I don't think he can :shock:
But who knows, this story seems like a fake to me and so does this Murray.
Nefari
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Found info.. the DO carry first aid kits with needles.
There are two kits. One that the attendants can use and one that only medical professionals can use.
That must be why they put a call out for a doctor:
Each first-aid kit must be accessible to the flight attendants and include:
* bandages
* compresses for applying pressure, moisture, heat, or cold
* antiseptic swabs
* arm and leg splints
* tape
* scissors.
An airplane's medical kit must be accessible to the flight crew, but is for use only by medical professionals. It must include:
* blood pressure cuff
* stethoscope
* plastic airways to deliver oxygen to help with breathing
* nitroglycerin tablets for chest pain
* dextrose solution for hypoglycemia
* epinephrine for asthma or allergic reactions
* injectable diphenhydramine HCl for serious allergic reactions
* hypodermic needles
* protective latex gloves.
http://www.enotalone.com/article/8537.html (http://www.enotalone.com/article/8537.html)
Im quoting myself because people dont seem to read the whole thread and question things that have already been answered.
Yes they have needles on board in their first aid kits.
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Connie's being given a big lift in public relations lately.
1] Prayer meeting with big name evangelist....perception.....Connie's a good God fearing guy
2]Connie likes his drive through coffees with cream on top.......He's aproachable and he has admirers but he's just like the rest of us.
3]Connie the hero.....saves the life of a mum on a flight...while demonstrating that he's an efficient and competant doctor.
Lets see the sway of media and if it will change the perception of the masses.
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If they're doing a big PR promotion for Murray and it's paralleling how the media accused Michael as doing certain things to improve his image, maybe they will have him marry the mother of his last kid. The media always said Michael married Lisa for a distraction from the bad molestation news at the time.
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If they're doing a big PR promotion for Murray and it's paralleling how the media accused Michael as doing certain things to improve his image, maybe they will have him marry the mother of his last kid. The media always said Michael married Lisa for a distraction from the bad molestation news at the time.
Hmm.. maybe Murrays next heroic deed might be to save a kids life.. or stop an armed robbery in progress.. or discover the cure for cancer.. that kind of thing.
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I post this under Conrad Murray, and look at the time the articles
were published.
ETonline at 8:31 a.m. PDT
TMZ at 10:14 a.m. PDT
So, who scoops who?
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I just mentioned this to a teen who doesn't follow any of this. I said, "guess who assisted someone that fainted on a plane"? "Who?" she says. I say, "Dr. Conrad Murray". She busted out with a loud laugh and said, "that is soo staged." Dr. Murray is enormous. I guess his face hasn't been on the t.v. much and didn't make the connection when they saw him. Let's face it, unless you're a music, film or Michael fan, you probably wouldn't know who Dr. Murray is.
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Java of Murray's face has appeared a thousand times in the newspapers here .. there is not equal? 8-)
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If they're doing a big PR promotion for Murray and it's paralleling how the media accused Michael as doing certain things to improve his image, maybe they will have him marry the mother of his last kid. The media always said Michael married Lisa for a distraction from the bad molestation news at the time.
That is so funny! We'll have to be on the look out for this one :)
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Does anyone know who this woman was? Maybe part of the Murray entourage...Dr.,photographer, paid actress mother and child or another Murray mammas? You know they chose their seats ahead and yes planned this, I believe this was a setup.
I am looking for name of that woman.
Also flying to Phoenix...like the bird Phoenix? (symbol meaning!)
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Found info.. the DO carry first aid kits with needles.
There are two kits. One that the attendants can use and one that only medical professionals can use.
That must be why they put a call out for a doctor:
Each first-aid kit must be accessible to the flight attendants and include:
* bandages
* compresses for applying pressure, moisture, heat, or cold
* antiseptic swabs
* arm and leg splints
* tape
* scissors.
An airplane's medical kit must be accessible to the flight crew, but is for use only by medical professionals. It must include:
* blood pressure cuff
* stethoscope
* plastic airways to deliver oxygen to help with breathing
* nitroglycerin tablets for chest pain
* dextrose solution for hypoglycemia
* epinephrine for asthma or allergic reactions
* injectable diphenhydramine HCl for serious allergic reactions
* hypodermic needles
* protective latex gloves.
http://www.enotalone.com/article/8537.html (http://www.enotalone.com/article/8537.html)
Im quoting myself because people dont seem to read the whole thread and question things that have already been answered.
Yes they have needles on board in their first aid kits.
Dancing, this type of needle is very different then an IV. They are two different types of equipment, one cannot substitute for the other.
So no, this list does not indicate that Dr. Murray should have had access to an IV. Much less any fluids to administer with one.
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does anybody else wonder why TMZ posted essentially the same story twice under different headings?
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does anybody else wonder why TMZ posted essentially the same story twice under different headings?
I do...why would they do that :?: maybe to get twice the attention for it..
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well all i can say is.................THIS WAS DONE FOR A REASON................first one to realise WHAT REASON...................gets a lollipop................... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I think this is one to be read again a little more between the lines.
Midair - in the middle of a US Air flight. Between take-off and landing. At peak of a curve if you like. Reminds us of A.I.R. "art is resistance".
A mother to a baby (to note: a female with a small one. Symbol of ongoing life and regeneration of life) is losing consciousness and appears to be dying / dead (fainting = apparent dead) and could not be revived (without further professional help).
Doc Murray - as always representing MJ - is jumping out of his seat to help (my camera can imagine this more done by MJ than by tall CM ;)) - thus getting in action.
He manages to "insert an IV" - to insert something that is in the first place strange to the body and feeds it from the outside.
With the action the "passenger" is being stabilized until the plane made an emergency landing.
Wiki says:
A passenger is a term broadly used to describe any person who travels in a vehicle, but bears little or no responsibility for the tasks required for that vehicle to arrive at its destination.
Hmmm.
Unconscious, fed from the outside, saved in the middle of the flight that was ended by an emergency landing but not responsible for the tasks?
Is this a response to the "Sun shower"?
Do we need professional help?
I would say not more than those around us. ;)
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Java of Murray's face has appeared a thousand times in the newspapers here .. there is not equal? 8-)
Not here.
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I think this is one to be read again a little more between the lines.
Midair - in the middle of a US Air flight. Between take-off and landing. At peak of a curve if you like. Reminds us of A.I.R. "art is resistance".
A mother to a baby (to note: a female with a small one. Symbol of ongoing life and regeneration of life) is losing consciousness and appears to be dying / dead (fainting = apparent dead) and could not be revived (without further professional help).
Doc Murray - as always representing MJ - is jumping out of his seat to help (my camera can imagine this more done by MJ than by tall CM ;)) - thus getting in action.
He manages to "insert an IV" - to insert something that is in the first place strange to the body and feeds it from the outside.
With the action the "passenger" is being stabilized until the plane made an emergency landing.
Wiki says:
A passenger is a term broadly used to describe any person who travels in a vehicle, but bears little or no responsibility for the tasks required for that vehicle to arrive at its destination.
Hmmm.
Unconscious, fed from the outside, saved in the middle of the flight that was ended by an emergency landing but not responsible for the tasks?
Is this a response to the "Sun shower"?
Do we need professional help?
I would say not more than those around us. ;)
Grace you always amaze me. Very good job.
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There are two kits. One that the attendants can use and one that only medical professionals can use.
Each first-aid kit must be accessible to the flight attendants and include:
* bandages
* compresses for applying pressure, moisture, heat, or cold
* antiseptic swabs
* arm and leg splints
* tape
* scissors.
An airplane's medical kit must be accessible to the flight crew, but is for use only by medical professionals. It must include:
* blood pressure cuff
* stethoscope
* plastic airways to deliver oxygen to help with breathing
* nitroglycerin tablets for chest pain
* dextrose solution for hypoglycemia
* epinephrine for asthma or allergic reactions
* injectable diphenhydramine HCl for serious allergic reactions
* hypodermic needles
* protective latex gloves.
Dancing, this type of needle is very different then an IV. They are two different types of equipment, one cannot substitute for the other.
So no, this list does not indicate that Dr. Murray should have had access to an IV. Much less any fluids to administer with one.
But why would planes have in the second kit Dextrose Solution or Injectable Dyphenydramine HCL if they cannot be used because there's no IV/IM needle?...
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There are two kits. One that the attendants can use and one that only medical professionals can use.
Each first-aid kit must be accessible to the flight attendants and include:
* bandages
* compresses for applying pressure, moisture, heat, or cold
* antiseptic swabs
* arm and leg splints
* tape
* scissors.
An airplane's medical kit must be accessible to the flight crew, but is for use only by medical professionals. It must include:
* blood pressure cuff
* stethoscope
* plastic airways to deliver oxygen to help with breathing
* nitroglycerin tablets for chest pain
* dextrose solution for hypoglycemia
* epinephrine for asthma or allergic reactions
* injectable diphenhydramine HCl for serious allergic reactions
* hypodermic needles
* protective latex gloves.
Dancing, this type of needle is very different then an IV. They are two different types of equipment, one cannot substitute for the other.
So no, this list does not indicate that Dr. Murray should have had access to an IV. Much less any fluids to administer with one.
But why would planes have in the second kit Dextrose Solution or Injectable Dyphenydramine HCL if they cannot be used because there's no IV/IM needle?...
Syringes with needles are very different from a catheter used to insert an IV. Injectable dextrose or diphenhydramine (otherwise known as Benadryl) can be drawn up from the original vial with a regular syringe and easily administered to someone who is either hypoglycemic (dextrose for low blood sugar) or suffering from an allergic reaction (Benadryl). These substances would be drawn up and injected directly into the skin (muscle or subcutaneous tissue) and discarded (no need for an IV placement). To place a peripheral IV (or port of access for an IV line or IV injections) one needs to use a rigid stylet that will puncture the skin to insert the catheter. I hope this helps.
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OMG, I know this is a lie. :roll: :roll: :roll:
If I was a "doctor" and I "killed" the King of Pop, I wouldn't want to show my face in public, so why does CM even bother???
"Turns out a passenger fainted and could not be revived. We're told Murray jumped out of his seat, evaluated the female passenger (who was in her 20s and traveling with a baby), and quickly noticed she had a "very weak pulse."
Somehow -- don't ask us -- Murray inserted an IV and was able to stabilize the passenger until the plane made an emergency landing in Albuquerque."
"don't ask us"... sounds like they're hiding something, does it... :shock:
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I think I have to do this one:
IV
I= 9
V= 22
9+22= 31...3*1=3, which is a special number! :D (special numbers equal 3, 6, 7, and 9)
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There are two kits. One that the attendants can use and one that only medical professionals can use.
Each first-aid kit must be accessible to the flight attendants and include:
* bandages
* compresses for applying pressure, moisture, heat, or cold
* antiseptic swabs
* arm and leg splints
* tape
* scissors.
An airplane's medical kit must be accessible to the flight crew, but is for use only by medical professionals. It must include:
* blood pressure cuff
* stethoscope
* plastic airways to deliver oxygen to help with breathing
* nitroglycerin tablets for chest pain
* dextrose solution for hypoglycemia
* epinephrine for asthma or allergic reactions
* injectable diphenhydramine HCl for serious allergic reactions
* hypodermic needles
* protective latex gloves.
Dancing, this type of needle is very different then an IV. They are two different types of equipment, one cannot substitute for the other.
So no, this list does not indicate that Dr. Murray should have had access to an IV. Much less any fluids to administer with one.
But why would planes have in the second kit Dextrose Solution or Injectable Dyphenydramine HCL if they cannot be used because there's no IV/IM needle?...
Syringes with needles are very different from a catheter used to insert an IV. Injectable dextrose or diphenhydramine (otherwise known as Benadryl) can be drawn up from the original vial with a regular syringe and easily administered to someone who is either hypoglycemic (dextrose for low blood sugar) or suffering from an allergic reaction (Benadryl). These substances would be drawn up and injected directly into the skin (muscle or subcutaneous tissue) and discarded (no need for an IV placement). To place a peripheral IV (or port of access for an IV line or IV injections) one needs to use a rigid stylet that will puncture the skin to insert the catheter. I hope this helps.
D50 (Dextrose) canNOT be given SC or IM. It can only be given IV/IO.
Glucagon may be what was on board, as that is given IM/SC. Benadryl can be given IM (and IV).
But who really knows? I'm always skeptical about news reporting things like this. I've done so many calls that are reported in the newspaper and what is being reported is so far from the truth.
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HOW can people working on the plane can let a passenger take off of his sit, saying "I'm a doctor" and let him act on another person ? I mean, if there is medical stuff on the plane, it means that people on board are able to USE IT.
Don't you think so ? I mean they would have everything to save people, but no one to use it ? HOPEFULLY, Dr MURRAY was there !! :lol: And hopefully the airplane people believed he is a doctor, and let him do what he wanted on the woman, like an IV :lol:
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HOW can people working on the plane can let a passenger take off of his sit, saying "I'm a doctor" and let him act on another person ? I mean, if there is medical stuff on the plane, it means that people on board are able to USE IT.
Don't you think so ? I mean they would have everything to save people, but no one to use it ? HOPEFULLY, Dr MURRAY was there !! :lol: And hopefully the airplane people believed he is a doctor, and let him do what he wanted on the woman, like an IV :lol:
Have you ever been in a situation where someone says "is there a doctor in the house"?
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Have you seen this video from the news station in Albuquerque?
Starting at :37 the reporter says "A Sunsport spokesman (Sunport is the name of the airport in Albuquerque) tells us a woman became ill and several medical professionals assisted but a spokesperson for Dr. Conrad Murray says it was Dr. Murray who stepped in hooking the woman up to an IV eventually stabilizing her using equipment from the jet's bag."
So the facts are that the spokesperson from the airport says that several medical professionals helped this woman, but Murray's spokesperson says it was Dr. Murray who saved the woman by himself.
The video link
[youtube:mrj5i8gw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39pudyPkhrc[/youtube:mrj5i8gw]
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If there's anyone can jump out of their seat it's Michael. He has moves like a cat, smooth, stealth, fluid...very sexy. :P Watch here at 3:18.
[youtube:hbr7yge7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQod8jMu4PA[/youtube:hbr7yge7]
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If there's anyone can jump out of their seat it's Michael. He has moves like a cat, smooth, stealth, fluid...very sexy. :P Watch here at 3:18.
[youtube:27zv1cvt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQod8jMu4PA[/youtube:27zv1cvt]
I love that interview...He looks so good in there!!
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If there's anyone can jump out of their seat it's Michael. He has moves like a cat, smooth, stealth, fluid...very sexy. :P Watch here at 3:18.
[youtube:umr5t4gi]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQod8jMu4PA[/youtube:umr5t4gi]
check out 1:35
Billy Bush-"The man know as the PT Barnum of the recording industry..."
well, well, well.
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If there's anyone can jump out of their seat it's Michael. He has moves like a cat, smooth, stealth, fluid...very sexy. :P Watch here at 3:18.
[youtube:8aqv4vsq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQod8jMu4PA[/youtube:8aqv4vsq]
check out 1:35
Billy Bush-"The man know as the PT Barnum of the recording industry..."
well, well, well.
LOL!
if someone want to look this videos... very good ones!
http://www.youtube.com/user/MyWhoisit (http://www.youtube.com/user/MyWhoisit)
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Interesting article from a "Rate your Doctor" type of website
May 17th, 2010
"Dr. Conrad Murray: Life Saver and Name Dropper
Will Dr. Conrad Murray do anything to save a life? On the weekend, Dr. Murray reportedly saved a woman’s life on a US Airways flight from Houston to Phoenix. The 23 year-old passed out, Dr. Murray ran for the plane’s emergency kit and used the IV on the patient.
The first shocking words that were heard by the patient when she regained consciousness was:
“You probably know me. I was Michael Jackson’s doctor.”
This story begs to have the following questions answered:
1. Was IV really needed? Did Dr. Murray go overboard in trying to help the patient recover?
2. Why did Dr. Murray feel it necessary to tell the patient immediately that he was Michael Jackson’s doctor?
3. Was this event in anyway staged to give Dr. Murray a good name?"
Here's the link to the article, which also has some interesting comments -
http://spotlight.vitals.com/2010/05/dr- ... -dropping/ (http://spotlight.vitals.com/2010/05/dr-conrad-murray-life-saving-while-name-dropping/)
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Does anyone know who this woman was? Maybe part of the Murray entourage...Dr.,photographer, paid actress mother and child or another Murray mammas? You know they chose their seats ahead and yes planned this, I believe this was a setup.
I am looking for name of that woman.
Also flying to Phoenix...like the bird Phoenix? (symbol meaning!)
Very clever, airieslady! Phoenix...raising from the ashes...! Maybe Chernoff will add this lady as #15 on the list of Dr. Murray's 'satisfied' patients!
:lol:
Remember when that Martin dude was interviewing Michael, and Michael said that he didn't want Blanket's mom to be indentified...(maybe he was talking to Oprah... :? )...well... I've been thinking that that woman that was on the plane WAS Blanket's mom. I don't know why I have this feeling, but... :|
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Remember when that Martin dude was interviewing Michael, and Michael said that he didn't want Blanket's mom to be indentified...(maybe he was talking to Oprah... :? )...well... I've been thinking that that woman that was on the plane WAS Blanket's mom. I don't know why I have this feeling, but... :|
So Michael did choose a 16 years old girl to be his baby's mom? Not impossible, but not likely in my opinion...
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HOW can people working on the plane can let a passenger take off of his sit, saying "I'm a doctor" and let him act on another person ? I mean, if there is medical stuff on the plane, it means that people on board are able to USE IT.
Don't you think so ? I mean they would have everything to save people, but no one to use it ? HOPEFULLY, Dr MURRAY was there !! :lol: And hopefully the airplane people believed he is a doctor, and let him do what he wanted on the woman, like an IV :lol:
Have you ever been in a situation where someone says "is there a doctor in the house"?
i understand what you say, but what I say is
if there are airplane medical equipment to be used, I guess there should be people able to use it on board. I don't think people would be given things they cannot handle with, or products they could use in the wrong way, expecting a doctor to be on board in case of emergency...
So I don't understand how Murray managed to do something "more" with the same equipment they had (and were supposed to know how it must be used)
Sometime I hate foreign language ...but did you get my point ?
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one thing I noticed:
Why then the person who took a picture important, did not take the main photo? What is it helping to rescue the woman?
Battery dead cellular or digital camera? :lol:
also did not disclose the name of this woman. :roll:
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Exactly!
This happened at 6 in the morning on Saturday (5 days ago!). And no one has leaked the name or a photo of this woman yet?? Not TMZ? Not another passenger on the plane? Not the woman herself??
Seems to me that she would be the one that people want to talk to...
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one thing I noticed:
Why then the person who took a picture important, did not take the main photo? What is it helping to rescue the woman?
Battery dead cellular or digital camera? :lol:
also did not disclose the name of this woman. :roll:
You cannot use your cellphone at a plane.. it is not allowed.
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Exactly!
This happened at 6 in the morning on Saturday (5 days ago!). And no one has leaked the name or a photo of this woman yet?? Not TMZ? Not another passenger on the plane? Not the woman herself??
Seems to me that she would be the one that people want to talk to...
Yep, and what about the other passengers? No one has said a thing :roll:
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it looks more and more as if i'm right with my 'men in black'-theory:
the tabloids are the 'real' news to the insiders (us), we just have to read it differently. the phoenix/ freemason thing makes absolute sense. especially when murray was photographed sporting a lafd-freemason-pin last year!
he got the ambulance truck from there and whatever else came with it, now they help clearing his rep. i'm pretty sure this was staged. a glucose or saline-iv don't hurt anyone, it's just for rehydrating the body, so no damage possible. and aren't those testimonies nice? what a good guy!
:mrgreen:
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In this story we don't know if Murray finally arrived in Phoenix ?
Instead of just saying Murray was on an inter-state flight, the media specified Houston to Phoenix. Not sure where he landed, I think the Phoenix destination was the key point. (aligns with your obervations that 'all roads lead to Rome', you are right and Phoenix is just a 'detour' along the way!) :o
This makes me think of the Still The King Tour which was supposed to take place in Europe (and to end yesterday 8-) ) but there was no short-stop in Rome http://www.stillthekingtour.com/ (http://www.stillthekingtour.com/) don't know if it means something...And the "World Club Tour" points to Club of Rome hmmm...
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lol the only thing that I disagree with here is that I didn't key in on the Phoenix bit first :lol:
Gosh darn it! I must have been asleep to miss this as I have been photoshopping Michael and Phoenix birds for 3 months now, and then the infamous "OTHER" TII T shirt with the 2 phoenix birds rising! Michael also had a piano held by a huge Phoenix bird base/statue. I mean why why why do they have a TII Tshirt with Phoenix birds hmmmmmmmm? And why was it not the main one sold, they sort of held it back in Mystery like they have.
Nefari
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didn't we say the woman has a court invitaion coming? murray's legal team wants to 'talk to her'... :? :lol:
check this link and go to the second aritcle: http://www.radaronline.com/category/tags/janet-jackson (http://www.radaronline.com/category/tags/janet-jackson)
(although it is also interesting that janet is now with a 'businessman from qatar with homes all over the world'... :? :shock: how did THEY hook up? maybe got introduced by 'someone'? what happend to the rumors about tyler perry all of a sudden? distraction?)
credit goes to 'jacksonsource' on twitter.
:mrgreen:
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To Murray
As a dr you should know that if the person just needed glucose a spoonfull of wet sugar under the tongue of an unconscious person would do the trick.
Why would you make an attendant break open the medical emergency kit and then go through 2 hours of paperwork just to make you seem like a hero.
Lucky for you they did not revoke your medical license, else what would you have produced to make them open the EMK for you. I hope you gave your right license number though, cos somewhere on these threads they have proved that your license number is ficititious. We don't want the attendants losing their job now as they may have to pay for child support too.
Bigger isn't always better and you can still be a hero if you helped the passenger gain consciousness. Always check the simple things first. IV is not always needed for weak pulses and may not even work in important cases - remember Michael???