Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => After June 25, 2009 => The Funeral, The Body & Forest Lawn => Topic started by: andrea_garay2005 on January 02, 2010, 03:04:42 AM
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I just found this picture made after Christmas.......
(http://i13.servimg.com/u/f13/14/43/53/01/19767_10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=45&u=14435301)
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It's from fans right ?
did the family ever visit him ? ever give him a flower or wreath or what else like the fans give him ?
nooooooo ... so don't worry .. 8-) ;)
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Just responded to this on the other forum. What's weird about this photo is that on this forum and the MJHD forum people (myself included) were saying how fake the first released photos of Michaels crypt looked. Just some scant pictures and a few flowers. You'd expected Michael's grave to be covered in flowers etc. My daughters grave is literally covered with flowers, teddies, trinkets and notes from her friends and our family. In fact we have purchased the plots on either side of her grave for us as well and those are covered with things for her too. I would of expected Michael's to be the same.
And now..... a picture of just that has been released! Hmm.....maybe someone is covering their tracks to make the grave look legit! This is what I hope anyway. Might be good news to us because maybe the hoax forums are being monitored!
Hi Michael :D
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I just found this picture made after Christmas.......
(http://i13.servimg.com/u/f13/14/43/53/01/19767_10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=45&u=14435301)
And why are you worried??? People believe that MJ's tomb is there!
But, I am just wondering...How did they manage to take this picture and WHO did it ??? Was it Karen Faye again? Or, maybe, an employee of FL ? It seems that anybody could take a picture of MJ's tomb! That's bizarre... I thought the Holly Terrace section was private and off-limits to the public and only family and some close friends could visit his grave... And now this picture comes up!
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I just found this picture made after Christmas.......
(http://i13.servimg.com/u/f13/14/43/53/01/19767_10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=45&u=14435301)
And why are you worried??? People believe that MJ's tomb is there!
But, I am just wondering...How did they manage to take this picture and WHO did it ??? Was it Karen Faye again? Or, maybe, an employee of FL ? It seems that anybody could take a picture of MJ's tomb! That's bizarre... I thought the Holly Terrace section was private and off-limits to the public and only family and some close friends could visit his grave... And now this picture comes up!
Yeah your right. Photo taking is also prohibited.
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It’s funny how this photo has surfaced ... rather convenient. Actions like this make me think that this forum is being watched. We notice that Michael crypt looks little bare and then, BAM a picture is leaked showing the crypt covered with beautiful flowers. Clearly somebody is trying ever so hard to prove a point. Is Karen up to her old tricks?
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Hello guys.Well thats the question thats for so long in my head.Who makes this picture,why and how??A family member?
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Well, all leakage came so far from "close sources" - whoever that may be.
Of course we are being watched.
This pic does not worry me at all. We know we are a minority. Most fans think he passed.
I think it's nice that they are remembering him with flowers and presents at his crypt.
They have an address for now and always where to send their gifts to.
I think it's nice that he's being remembered by many with gifts.
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It’s funny how this photo has surfaced ... rather convenient. Actions like this make me think that this forum is being watched. We notice that Michael crypt looks little bare and then, BAM a picture is leaked showing the crypt covered with beautiful flowers. Clearly somebody is trying ever so hard to prove a point. Is Karen up to her old tricks?
You hit the nail on the head. This picture doesn't convince me of anything. Someone is up to tricks to try and convince us to give up hope. I for one am not giving up and like I have said before Michael Jackson is not dead. BET (Black Entertainment Television is having MJ weekend today). What gives? Aren't we in a new decade/year? On one hand they're trying to convince us that MJ is dead and on the other hand they want us to watch his old videos continually and buy all of his CDs, DVDs, box sets and all other kinds of memorabilia. Of course this forum is being watched. At the end of the day MJ is alive. Too many are trying to prove that he really is dead. If he really was dead why all of the madness? Keep the Faith!
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It’s funny how this photo has surfaced ... rather convenient. Actions like this make me think that this forum is being watched. We notice that Michael crypt looks little bare and then, BAM a picture is leaked showing the crypt covered with beautiful flowers. Clearly somebody is trying ever so hard to prove a point. Is Karen up to her old tricks?
You hit the nail on the head. This picture doesn't convince me of anything. Someone is up to tricks to try and convince us to give up hope. I for one am not giving up and like I have said before Michael Jackson is not dead. BET (Black Entertainment Television is having MJ weekend today). What gives? Aren't we in a new decade/year? On one hand they're trying to convince us that MJ is dead and on the other hand they want us to watch his old videos continually and buy all of his CDs, DVDs, box sets and all other kinds of memorabilia. Of course this forum is being watched. At the end of the day MJ is alive. Too many are trying to prove that he really is dead. If he really was dead why all of the madness? Keep the Faith!
We'll give the people credit for trying, must of taken some time for them to stage all those flowers :D
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By the way, his family haven't uttered a word about the first lot of leaked photos, nor this one. That should tell us something. Don't you think they would of complained by now or at least asked Forest Lawn to up their security/privacy of Michael's "supposed" crypt. Photo's in there are prohibited. So for more photos to be leaked would mean the fans are doing a better job then the paps!
Great.....that will probably be the next thing we hear (since we are being monitored)
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I agree with you, this looks so planned. It's too much of a coincidence that here we talk about how lonely and fake MJ's grave look and then someone "leaks" a picture of his grave all covered by flowers and stuff, specially considering that nobody can really enter there and let alone take pictures. I suppose soon we will see some pictures of someone of the family (maybe Latoya), taken by some papparazzi/friend of MJ like the ambulance picture, going to visit the grave to put aside our comments about the family not visiting in the cementery.
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FYI - some people "fans" are going to great lengths to convince other fans that MJ is indeed dead. There are pilgrimages made regularly to his burial place with pictures to convince anyone who refuses to believe. It puzzles me that they get so uptight if anyone sways a little bit to the hoax side. These are so called dire hard "fans". I don't get it. What is threatening or insulting about another fan choosing to believe that he is not dead?
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Where has this photo come from?
At the front there is a barrier.. like an ornate stone bannister.. i have not seen this in the other photos.. i thought MJs crypt was at the end of a long corridor??
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Here it says picture added by anonymous: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=38746353 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=38746353)
Where is that barrier thing in the other photos?? :?
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I've found it in the photo section on 'Michael Jackson southern california fans' group on facebook. Just tape this name at search cause I'm not sure if the name is correct.....
It was posted on Thursday.
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I just found this picture made after Christmas.......
(http://i13.servimg.com/u/f13/14/43/53/01/19767_10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=45&u=14435301)
That place very different from the other pictures that Karen took and sold to TMZ. I don't remember seeing a barrier in the last pictures that were posted online. :? I wonder if this is FL or another place? :?: :?
I agree that the picture does look planned and someone is trying really hard to convince us that MJ is dead. They can try as hard as they want, but nothing will convince us!! :lol: ;) :P I also think that someone's watching this forum and other hoax forums. It'll be interesting what they come up with next! :lol:
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you no what i dont care about forest lawn photos any more,we have had a memorial and is it 2 funerals and i still believe he is alive so keep the faith :roll:
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Here it says picture added by anonymous: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=38746353 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=38746353)
Where is that barrier thing in the other photos?? :?
I wonder the same thing!! If you look at the other pictures, there's something different in the current picture. The background looks different, the windows are smaller/don't godown the wall, it looks like the walls are wood and there's a barrier in front of the crypt. I don't know what to think... :?
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how did these people get in there?
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I found this picture of other crypts at forest lawn and seems like the gates are a common feature :|
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Where has this photo come from?
At the front there is a barrier.. like an ornate stone bannister.. i have not seen this in the other photos.. i thought MJs crypt was at the end of a long corridor??
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32648572/
In the Great Mausoleum, he will join Hollywood legends of yesterday like Clark Gable, Jean Harlow, W.C. Fields and Red Skelton, as well as “The Last Supper Window,” a lifesize stained glass recreation of Leonardo da Vinci’s masterpiece, and Moses, a reproduction of Michelangelo’s sculpture for the tomb of Pope Julius II in Rome.
http://www.forestlawn.com/Images/Vistas ... rrace2.jpg (http://www.forestlawn.com/Images/Vistas/ContentTheLastSupperWindowMemorialTerrace2.jpg)
It has been reported that Michael's crypt was right under the "Last Supper" glass painting . However, the posted photos look like a different location, why ?
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Where has this photo come from?
At the front there is a barrier.. like an ornate stone bannister.. i have not seen this in the other photos.. i thought MJs crypt was at the end of a long corridor??
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32648572/
In the Great Mausoleum, he will join Hollywood legends of yesterday like Clark Gable, Jean Harlow, W.C. Fields and Red Skelton, as well as “The Last Supper Window,” a lifesize stained glass recreation of Leonardo da Vinci’s masterpiece, and Moses, a reproduction of Michelangelo’s sculpture for the tomb of Pope Julius II in Rome.
http://www.forestlawn.com/Images/Vistas ... rrace2.jpg (http://www.forestlawn.com/Images/Vistas/ContentTheLastSupperWindowMemorialTerrace2.jpg)
It has been reported that Michael's crypt was right under the "Last Supper" glass painting . However, the posted photos look like a different location, why ?
i agree where the hell r all these photos weve seen been taken at?? this last link looks NOTHING LIKE ANY OF THEM!!!! HOAXXXXXXXXXX!!! nice try karen faye
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I found this picture of other crypts at forest lawn and seems like the gates are a common feature :|
What happened to his crypt being at the end of a long hall way? I don't see a crypt at the end of the hall in the picture above! :?
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Where has this photo come from?
At the front there is a barrier.. like an ornate stone bannister.. i have not seen this in the other photos.. i thought MJs crypt was at the end of a long corridor??
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32648572/
In the Great Mausoleum, he will join Hollywood legends of yesterday like Clark Gable, Jean Harlow, W.C. Fields and Red Skelton, as well as “The Last Supper Window,” a lifesize stained glass recreation of Leonardo da Vinci’s masterpiece, and Moses, a reproduction of Michelangelo’s sculpture for the tomb of Pope Julius II in Rome.
http://www.forestlawn.com/Images/Vistas ... rrace2.jpg (http://www.forestlawn.com/Images/Vistas/ContentTheLastSupperWindowMemorialTerrace2.jpg)
It has been reported that Michael's crypt was right under the "Last Supper" glass painting . However, the posted photos look like a different location, why ?
i agree where the hell r all these photos weve seen been taken at?? this last link looks NOTHING LIKE ANY OF THEM!!!! HOAXXXXXXXXXX!!! nice try karen faye
She's now "introducing" bracelets to MJ fans on her facebook , claiming one of them was tied to Michael's ankle in burial. "Nice" marketing and creepy !
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She's now "introducing" bracelets to MJ fans on her facebook , claiming one of them was tied to Michael's ankle in burial. "Nice" marketing and creepy !
PLEASE TELL ME YOU ARE JOKING!! :twisted:
That woman is now beyond redemption. She is making money off MJs back.. same thing she did in 2005 and he was so angry with her then.
If MJ is dead.. then she needs to seriously stop. This is sick beyond belief.
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Just responded to this on the other forum. What's weird about this photo is that on this forum and the MJHD forum people (myself included) were saying how fake the first released photos of Michaels crypt looked. Just some scant pictures and a few flowers. You'd expected Michael's grave to be covered in flowers etc. My daughters grave is literally covered with flowers, teddies, trinkets and notes from her friends and our family. In fact we have purchased the plots on either side of her grave for us as well and those are covered with things for her too. I would of expected Michael's to be the same.
And now..... a picture of just that has been released! Hmm.....maybe someone is covering their tracks to make the grave look legit! This is what I hope anyway. Might be good news to us because maybe the hoax forums are being monitored!
Hi Michael :D
Sorry to hear that, about your daughter :|
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It was clear that they provide us a picture
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She's now "introducing" bracelets to MJ fans on her facebook , claiming one of them was tied to Michael's ankle in burial. "Nice" marketing and creepy !
PLEASE TELL ME YOU ARE JOKING!! :twisted:
That woman is now beyond redemption. She is making money off MJs back.. same thing she did in 2005 and he was so angry with her then.
If MJ is dead.. then she needs to seriously stop. This is sick beyond belief.
The bracelets that she puts out for sale are the one michael liked AND he had one HIMSELF she aint selling the one he wears ;) (IF IM CORRECT)
BUT SHE IS A REAL B*TCH AND A VERY BAD FRIEND(IF YOU CAN EVEN CALL THAT A FRIEND):x
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Here it says picture added by anonymous: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=38746353 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=38746353)
Where is that barrier thing in the other photos?? :?
Look at the top pic....the top is not flat, but it is in the rest of the pics. :o :shock:
Sorry, look at the pics that DancingTheDream posted, to see the comparison of the tops.
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Looks like they decorated for Valentines Day :lol:
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She's now "introducing" bracelets to MJ fans on her facebook , claiming one of them was tied to Michael's ankle in burial. "Nice" marketing and creepy !
PLEASE TELL ME YOU ARE JOKING!! :twisted:
That woman is now beyond redemption. She is making money off MJs back.. same thing she did in 2005 and he was so angry with her then.
If MJ is dead.. then she needs to seriously stop. This is sick beyond belief.
She's a trouble maker and cannot be trusted !
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god some people are deviant
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god some people are deviant
What is deviant :oops: :?:
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Here it says picture added by anonymous: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=38746353 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=38746353)
Where is that barrier thing in the other photos?? :?
Look at the top pic....the top is not flat, but it is in the rest of the pics. :o :shock:
Sorry, look at the pics that DancingTheDream posted, to see the comparison of the tops.
I see that too... optical illusion?
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god some people are deviant
you are so right i just wonder how they sleep at night
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@ SPAKKLE29FUL
They probably sleep until dawn in the coffin of the Vampire
Inhuman creatures
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Here it says picture added by anonymous: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=38746353 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=38746353)
Where is that barrier thing in the other photos?? :?
Look at the top pic....the top is not flat, but it is in the rest of the pics. :o :shock:
Sorry, look at the pics that DancingTheDream posted, to see the comparison of the tops.
I see that too... optical illusion?
IDK, but it looks like two different tops to me. :?
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She's now "introducing" bracelets to MJ fans on her facebook , claiming one of them was tied to Michael's ankle in burial. "Nice" marketing and creepy !
:o :shock: That is creepy! Something is not right with her. Her behavior and things she has said has been very odd for someone who has lost someone so close. I mean would you sell bracelets tied to your friend or employer's ankle when they were buried? And the fact that she wants to sell those to make money makes me mad! :evil: Whats next...a book deal? Shes just another wanting her 10 minutes of fame and money off Mike's name.
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I feel sick ....... :!:
God, how crazy is that :?:
KF longtime girlfriend and then takes Maskenbildenerin ..... after 2! Months for the body, the make-up .... and yet such services
KF is makeup artist (living people) for the dead people there are professionals in this area :!:
Sick is just sick :twisted:
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the way she is selling everything..you would think if Karen Faye really did his makeup that a picture of his face would somehow get "leaked" too..Its all a crock of shit IMO.
Top of what is flat? that actual white block that is supposedly encasing his body?
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I just found this picture made after Christmas.......
(http://i13.servimg.com/u/f13/14/43/53/01/19767_10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=45&u=14435301)
Can anyone enlarge this photo to get a closer look of the flowers that are there? I don't know how to do it without it getting blurry. I sent poinsettas for Christmas "just in case", and I do not see ANY poinsettas there at all. I am sure I am not the only one to send poinsettas, my point being..this was not taken at Christmas..there is nothing looking like Christmas to me..unless I am missing it.
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It is watching the white angel .... the angel what was also the first picture.
And probably also old flowers?
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http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=38746353&PIpi=24546654
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FYI - some people "fans" are going to great lengths to convince other fans that MJ is indeed dead. There are pilgrimages made regularly to his burial place with pictures to convince anyone who refuses to believe. It puzzles me that they get so uptight if anyone sways a little bit to the hoax side. These are so called dire hard "fans". I don't get it. What is threatening or insulting about another fan choosing to believe that he is not dead?
Aham...that's what i ask myself..
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http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=38746353&PIpi=24546654
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thank you :) thats better..Only thing I can make out are lots of roses, a white christmas tree..but i do not see poinsettas. So either the Florist ripped me off..or this is a fake picture. What do you think?
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http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=38746353&PIpi=24546654
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thank you :) thats better..Only thing I can make out are lots of roses, a white christmas tree..but i do not see poinsettas. So either the Florist ripped me off..or this is a fake picture. What do you think?
Forgive me.. what is a poinsetta?
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@ doreentbird
I am thinking back is the poinsettia .... :?:
Do not know the angel is there and pictures .....???
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god some people are deviant
What is deviant :oops: :?:
I believe angelshadow meant devious ( underhanded, sneaky,devilish etc.) Personally, I call it like it is EVIL. If she is trying to make money off of MJ she is just plain EVIL. If hand MJ had friends like her imagine what his enemies would be doing. Keep the Faith! :?:
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thank you :) thats better..Only thing I can make out are lots of roses, a white christmas tree..but i do not see poinsettas. So either the Florist ripped me off..or this is a fake picture. What do you think?[/quote]
Forgive me.. what is a poinsetta?[/quote]
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/shepf/DSC00397.jpg)
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umm.. what is a poinsetta?? :?
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@ sweet1,
Thanks, I know the translation is terrible. :oops:
Yes, I mean deviance ...... :!:
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trying to find picture of a poinsetta to post here..so you can see what one looks like :) bear with me
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a plant (we have them always at Christmas) as a decoration
Here
(http://www.gaertnereikoch-lerchenheide.de/attachments/Image/weihnachtsstern.jpg)
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Oh.. ok.. no i do not see any of them there. But we do not have a date for this photograph.. it may have been taken a while ago for all we know.
Question.. why are you spending money to send flowers to a grave if you believe it to be empty?? :?
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(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/DOREENTBIRD/IMG00022-1.jpg)
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a plant (we have them always at Christmas) as a decoration
Here
(http://www.gaertnereikoch-lerchenheide.de/attachments/Image/weihnachtsstern.jpg)
THANK you...lol..i had such a hard time find a picture that fit here.
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Oh.. ok.. no i do not see any of them there. But we do not have a date for this photograph.. it may have been taken a while ago for all we know.
Question.. why are you spending money to send flowers to a grave if you believe it to be empty?? :?
the picture was taken after christmas is says,,i sent mine 3 days before. I don't know why I sent it. I felt wierd not sending anything just in case you know?
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angelshadow..thats a beautiful plant btw..is that in your house?
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@ doreentbird
Ohhh ....We do not use such a poinsettia as a decoration .....
But he is at the end :o :lol: ;)
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@ Doreentbird
No, this picture is not from me but I have also decorated the way I am ...... more poinsettias and so pretty (I always decorated) Christmas is very beautiful
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@angelshadow...you see my plant at the end? Sorry..not sure what you mean..he is at the end
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@ doreentbird
It was meant amusingly.
The flower is at the end ...... not in the blossom ;)
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I just found this picture made after Christmas.......
(http://i13.servimg.com/u/f13/14/43/53/01/19767_10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=45&u=14435301)
Can anyone enlarge this photo to get a closer look of the flowers that are there? I don't know how to do it without it getting blurry. I sent poinsettas for Christmas "just in case", and I do not see ANY poinsettas there at all. I am sure I am not the only one to send poinsettas, my point being..this was not taken at Christmas..there is nothing looking like Christmas to me..unless I am missing it.
Under the big purple heart on a stand to the left... it looks like red flowers?
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Can anyone enlarge this photo to get a closer look of the flowers that are there? I don't know how to do it without it getting blurry. I sent poinsettas for Christmas "just in case", and I do not see ANY poinsettas there at all. I am sure I am not the only one to send poinsettas, my point being..this was not taken at Christmas..there is nothing looking like Christmas to me..unless I am missing it.[/quote]
Under the big purple heart on a stand to the left... it looks like red flowers?[/quote]
YOU ARE RIGHT..I THINK THOSE ARE THEM...I CANT SEE THE BOTTOM, BUT THEY SHOULD BE IN A WHITE BASKET WITH A LITTLE TEDDY BEAR :cry:
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Fand ich nur, dass man ......... ist mir leid.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=38746353&PIpi=24546654
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Here goes it again. If they want to be more convincing that this is indeed Michael's crypt, they should pan to the name above the crypt and take a picture. It should say Jackson since all the other crypts have the surname engraved in large letters over them.
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Yes also no name ;)
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Here goes it again. If they want to be more convincing that this is indeed Michael's crypt, they should pan to the name above the crypt and take a picture. It should say Jackson since all the other crypts have the surname engraved in large letters over them.
Great observation! I hadn't thought of that until you mentioned it. Thats so true. None of the pictures have a nameplate. Now that you mention it watch one turn up on TMZ LMAO! :lol:
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Great observation! I hadn't thought of that until you mentioned it. Thats so true. None of the pictures have a nameplate. Now that you mention it watch one turn up on TMZ LMAO! :lol:
lol true seen as this forum is being watched im sure a picture of the crypt with "Jackson" engraved above it will surface in the near future. Apparently the public are not allowed to visit the holly terrace (the location of Michaels "grave") so who took this picture - a memeber of staff?? Surely the Jacksons would be furious at such a blatant violation of his privacy but,we haven't heard a peep, their silence speaks volumes.
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the_gloved_one wrote: It’s funny how this photo has surfaced ... rather convenient. Actions like this make me think that this forum is being watched. We notice that Michael crypt looks little bare and then, BAM a picture is leaked showing the crypt covered with beautiful flowers. Clearly somebody is trying ever so hard to prove a point. Is Karen up to her old tricks?
Exactly, you think like me, a few weeks ago when they published the photos in the forum, all talking about that the tomb had no flowers, I said that maybe within a time would appear pictures of the grave with flowers, and look there this. :lol:
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yes that happens a lot .. but funny .. we talk about not seeing the family or the children visiting .. and we still haven't seen a picture of them coming or going .. they may have to resort to photoshopping the family visiting Michael
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@ sweet1,
Thanks, I know the translation is terrible. :oops:
Yes, I mean deviance ...... :!:
You're very welcomed. We are all here to help one another sweetie. Keep the Faith! :)
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angelshadow..thats a beautiful plant btw..is that in your house?
I have Poinsetta in my house too
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@ sweet1 Thank you so much :P
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http://www.icrawl.org/64232583336-why-i ... karen-faye (http://www.icrawl.org/64232583336-why-is-tmz-posting-crypt-pics-from-karen-faye)
They say the crypt pic is from 1952??? And the rest (flowers etc.) photoshopped?? :o