Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Theories => The Numbers Theory => Topic started by: bec on August 23, 2010, 10:17:07 PM

Title: 70 days
Post by: bec on August 23, 2010, 10:17:07 PM
70 days.

From 6-25-09 to 9-3-09. "Death" to "burial".

From 10-26-10 to 1-4-2011. Reported Judge's deadline to prelim hearing.

I'm not quite sure why this October 26th date has been thrown around in conjunction with the Murray case. Thoughts on this?

Any other 70 day spans I'm unaware of?
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 23, 2010, 10:21:53 PM
Today (August 24) is 70 days since TS' last update when you use inclusive reckoning.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: jenwren20 on August 23, 2010, 10:53:06 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Today (August 24) is 70 days since TS' last update when you use inclusive reckoning.

Wonder if that means we get another today?? :?
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on August 24, 2010, 11:18:53 AM
.net has a similar thread going and French Braid listed other 70 day periods, between Murray's court dates:

4/5/10 Murray court date ---> 6/14/10 Murray court date = 70 days
6/14/10 Murray court date---> 8/23/10 Murray court date = 70 days


Then we go 64 days to October 26th, date listed for Judge and attorneys meeting.

Then we start over with the 70 days until the next court date.

What's that all about?

Thanks to French Braid for pointing this out over at .net.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on August 24, 2010, 12:02:36 PM
well I just read a thread stating that on October 26 Vh1 will open the crypt where Michael is. here is the post. October 26 must signify something.  

Here I copy pasted


VH1 Opens Up Michael Jackson"s Crypt; Special VH1 Halloween Programming Kicks Off On Saturday, October 26 At 12:00 A.M. (Et/Pt*) With Exclusive Special "Michael Jackson: The Making Of Ghosts".

The dates in this saga are not coincidental...they all have parallel meanings/connections to the past.


viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13578
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: mdc on August 24, 2010, 02:46:09 PM
Quote from: "bec"
.net has a similar thread going and French Braid listed other 70 day periods, between Murray's court dates:

4/5/10 Murray court date ---> 6/14/10 Murray court date = 70 days
6/14/10 Murray court date---> 8/23/10 Murray court date = 70 days


Then we go 64 days to October 26th, date listed for Judge and attorneys meeting.

Then we start over with the 70 days until the next court date.

What's that all about?

Thanks to French Braid for pointing this out over at .net.


So exactly what date would be 70 days from August 23, 2010?
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: ejay on August 24, 2010, 03:35:17 PM
Quote from: "mdc"
Quote from: "bec"
.net has a similar thread going and French Braid listed other 70 day periods, between Murray's court dates:

4/5/10 Murray court date ---> 6/14/10 Murray court date = 70 days
6/14/10 Murray court date---> 8/23/10 Murray court date = 70 days


Then we go 64 days to October 26th, date listed for Judge and attorneys meeting.

Then we start over with the 70 days until the next court date.

What's that all about?

Thanks to French Braid for pointing this out over at .net.


So exactly what date would be 70 days from August 23, 2010?
November 1/2010
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 24, 2010, 04:20:46 PM
70 – represents human leadership and judgment.

In gammatria the letter "o" = 70. Remember the circles in Michael's autograph?

The Egyptian mummification process took 70 days.
The drying process of mummification only took 35 days. Why then did an Egyptian mummification ritual take 70 days? The answer may lie in the movements of the star Sirius. Sirius was an important star to the Egyptians and we know that they followed its movements very closely. The rising of the dog star, Sirius marked the Egyptian New Year, the beginning of the season of inundation. The time when Sirius disappeared in the sky until the time it returned (Egyptian New Year) was 70 days, perhaps the Egyptians equated this astronomical phenomena with the time needed from death in the physical world to rebirth into the afterlife.

70 - Numerical value of the word "Chokmah" (Wisdom) of the sephirotic Tree of the Cabal.

The French words "MESSIE" (messiah) and "L'OINT" (anoints) each = 70.

In the Bible, Jesus is called a man 70 times in the New Testament.

The number seventy is a combination of two of the perfect numbers, seven and ten. 7 x 10 signifies perfect spiritual order carried out with all spiritual power and significance. Both spirit and order are greatly emphasised.

There is more here: Properties of the number 70
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu70.php
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: thecheetoman2004 on August 24, 2010, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
well I just read a thread stating that on October 26 Vh1 will open the crypt where Michael is. here is the post. October 26 must signify something.  

Here I copy pasted


VH1 Opens Up Michael Jackson"s Crypt; Special VH1 Halloween Programming Kicks Off On Saturday, October 26 At 12:00 A.M. (Et/Pt*) With Exclusive Special "Michael Jackson: The Making Of Ghosts".

The dates in this saga are not coincidental...they all have parallel meanings/connections to the past.


viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13578

Wow. Can you post the link again? It doesn't work
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: awesome1 on August 24, 2010, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
well I just read a thread stating that on October 26 Vh1 will open the crypt where Michael is. here is the post. October 26 must signify something.  

Here I copy pasted


VH1 Opens Up Michael Jackson"s Crypt; Special VH1 Halloween Programming Kicks Off On Saturday, October 26 At 12:00 A.M. (Et/Pt*) With Exclusive Special "Michael Jackson: The Making Of Ghosts".

The dates in this saga are not coincidental...they all have parallel meanings/connections to the past.


viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13578

thriller anyone  :lol:
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on August 24, 2010, 05:24:45 PM
Absolutely brilliant observations, guys...  8-)
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on August 24, 2010, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
well I just read a thread stating that on October 26 Vh1 will open the crypt where Michael is. here is the post. October 26 must signify something.  

Here I copy pasted


VH1 Opens Up Michael Jackson"s Crypt; Special VH1 Halloween Programming Kicks Off On Saturday, October 26 At 12:00 A.M. (Et/Pt*) With Exclusive Special "Michael Jackson: The Making Of Ghosts".

The dates in this saga are not coincidental...they all have parallel meanings/connections to the past.


viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13578

Ok lets make no mistake, this article is from 2002 so this program is old old.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on August 24, 2010, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: "ejay"
Quote from: "mdc"
Quote from: "bec"
.net has a similar thread going and French Braid listed other 70 day periods, between Murray's court dates:

4/5/10 Murray court date ---> 6/14/10 Murray court date = 70 days
6/14/10 Murray court date---> 8/23/10 Murray court date = 70 days


Then we go 64 days to October 26th, date listed for Judge and attorneys meeting.

Then we start over with the 70 days until the next court date.

What's that all about?

Thanks to French Braid for pointing this out over at .net.


So exactly what date would be 70 days from August 23, 2010?
November 1/2010

Which is the one year anniversary of TIAI first redirect to MJHD.com.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: *Mo* on August 25, 2010, 02:21:16 PM

August 18 2009: The video "Dr. Conrad Murray Thanks Supporters" is uploaded to YouTube by Houstoncriminallaw.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Houstoncriminallaw (http://www.youtube.com/user/Houstoncriminallaw)

70 days later, on October 27, This Is It premiered in Los Angeles.

The Murray video was recorded by Sirius video.


Sirius, known in Ancient Egypt as Sopdet (Greek: Sothis), is recorded in the earliest astronomical records. During the era of the Middle Kingdom, Egyptians based their calendar on the heliacal rising of Sirius, namely the day it becomes visible just before sunrise after moving far enough away from the glare of the Sun. This occurred just before the annual flooding of the Nile and the summer solstice, after a 70-day absence from the skies. The hieroglyph for Sothis features a star and a triangle. Sothis was identified with the great goddess Isis, who formed a part of a trinity with her husband Osiris and their son Horus, while the 70-day period symbolized the passing of Isis and Osiris through the duat (Egyptian underworld).
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius))
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: jacilovesmichael on August 25, 2010, 02:24:17 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"

August 18 2009: The video "Dr. Conrad Murray Thanks Supporters" is uploaded to YouTube by Houstoncriminallaw.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Houstoncriminallaw (http://www.youtube.com/user/Houstoncriminallaw)

70 days later, on October 27, This Is It premiered in Los Angeles.

The Murray video was recorded by Sirius video, and has a pentagram (pointed upwards, representing good intentions).


Sirius, known in Ancient Egypt as Sopdet (Greek: Sothis), is recorded in the earliest astronomical records. During the era of the Middle Kingdom, Egyptians based their calendar on the heliacal rising of Sirius, namely the day it becomes visible just before sunrise after moving far enough away from the glare of the Sun. This occurred just before the annual flooding of the Nile and the summer solstice, after a 70-day absence from the skies. The hieroglyph for Sothis features a star and a triangle. Sothis was identified with the great goddess Isis, who formed a part of a trinity with her husband Osiris and their son Horus, while the 70-day period symbolized the passing of Isis and Osiris through the duat (Egyptian underworld).
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius))

 :shock:
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: ijcsly on August 25, 2010, 02:36:49 PM
how about during MJ's "life" (not that i think he's dead!i just mean pré hoax)
are there other 70 day intervals between significant events? for example during his trial dates , pepsi accident etc... maybe we can take a look-see...
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: Kirsche on August 25, 2010, 02:42:14 PM
not a 70 days interval but another 70

anta Barbara County Sheriff's Department investigation

In June 2003, the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department started an investigation. In July 2003 they first interviewed the family. On November 18, 2003, a team of more than 70 investigators from the Santa Barbara County District Attorney's Office and Sheriff's Department executed a search warrant upon Jackson's Neverland Ranch. These actions were criticized because more law enforcement personnel 'raided' Neverland Ranch than for any murderer or serial killer in American history.[6] The district attorney opened a website for an 'open casting call' for anyone who has been molested by Michael Jackson and/or who has any information against Jackson.[9]
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: Kirsche on August 25, 2010, 02:53:35 PM
Now.. here are all the court dates...

Court dates

2005:[41]

    * January 31 – Jury selection begins.
    * February 24 – Jurors and alternates seated.
    * February 28, March 1 – Opening statements begin.
    * March 1 – Prosecution testimony begins.
    * May 4 – Prosecution rests.
    * May 5 – Defense testimony begins.
    * May 25 – Defense rests/prosecution rebuttal begins.
    * May 27 – Prosecution rebuttal ends/defense offers no rebuttal.
    * June 1 – Jury gets instructions.
    * June 2, June 3 – Closing arguments.
    * June 13 – Verdict delivered.


As of April 15, 2005, all weekdays from February 28, 2005 were court days, except:

    * March 31– César Chávez Day (holiday)
    * April 6 – funeral of Johnnie Cochran
    * May 30 – Memorial Day

A few court days were without jury and without Jackson. On these days motions were discussed and ruled about. These were on March 11 and 18, and the first part of March 28.

There were also several days in which Michael Jackson was unable to attend. These are:

    * February 15 – Questioning of potential jurors was postponed until February 22, after Jackson was hospitalized with flu like symptoms.
    * March 21 – Court was delayed for 45 minutes, after Jackson showed up late again complaining of back trouble. After meeting with attorneys and the doctor, Melville resumed the court into session without threatening to revoke Jackson's bail.

[edit] Verdict

At approximately 2:25pm PDT (21:25 UTC) on June 13, 2005 the jury of the Superior Court of the State of California, held in and for the County of Santa Barbara, determined that Jackson was not guilty of all of the charges he had been accused


I Could need a little help with counting
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: *Mo* on August 25, 2010, 03:00:24 PM

Sorry, but I think you need to focus on the 70 days intervals in the hoax.  Those are the one Mike controls.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: Kirsche on August 25, 2010, 03:02:12 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"

Sorry, but I think you need to focus on the 70 days intervals in the hoax.  Those are the one Mike controls.


oh yeah sure.....oh sorry, had a long day.....and tough times the last days and weeks,, sorry... :(
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: finfin on August 25, 2010, 03:06:02 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"

August 18 2009: The video "Dr. Conrad Murray Thanks Supporters" is uploaded to YouTube by Houstoncriminallaw.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Houstoncriminallaw (http://www.youtube.com/user/Houstoncriminallaw)

70 days later, on October 27, This Is It premiered in Los Angeles.

The Murray video was recorded by Sirius video.


Sirius, known in Ancient Egypt as Sopdet (Greek: Sothis), is recorded in the earliest astronomical records. During the era of the Middle Kingdom, Egyptians based their calendar on the heliacal rising of Sirius, namely the day it becomes visible just before sunrise after moving far enough away from the glare of the Sun. This occurred just before the annual flooding of the Nile and the summer solstice, after a 70-day absence from the skies. The hieroglyph for Sothis features a star and a triangle. Sothis was identified with the great goddess Isis, who formed a part of a trinity with her husband Osiris and their son Horus, while the 70-day period symbolized the passing of Isis and Osiris through the duat (Egyptian underworld).
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius))

Re: Thisisalmostit
by finfin » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:40 pm

New tweet: Sirius - Coincidence?
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: MJ King Of Pop on August 26, 2010, 08:10:19 AM
Quote from: "ejay"
Quote from: "mdc"
Quote from: "bec"
.net has a similar thread going and French Braid listed other 70 day periods, between Murray's court dates:

4/5/10 Murray court date ---> 6/14/10 Murray court date = 70 days
6/14/10 Murray court date---> 8/23/10 Murray court date = 70 days


Then we go 64 days to October 26th, date listed for Judge and attorneys meeting.

Then we start over with the 70 days until the next court date.

What's that all about?

Thanks to French Braid for pointing this out over at .net.


So exactly what date would be 70 days from August 23, 2010?
November 1/2010



so do u think michael could come back then november 1/2010
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on August 26, 2010, 08:23:43 AM
Hm... maybe it´s 70x7...+7 or something? that would be 497 days since June 25th.

That´s November 4th.. I can´t come up with anything special on that day.... (apart from 11-4 being 7)..
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 26, 2010, 08:49:11 AM
Quote from: "GirlInTheMirror"
Hm... maybe it´s 70x7...+7 or something? that would be 497 days since June 25th.

That´s November 4th.. I can´t come up with anything special on that day.... (apart from 11-4 being 7)..


Yeah, or 77 weeks (77x7 days). That will be December 16th...

Like I said before, there are many dates that would make sense, and a lot of them already passed by. It's impossible for us to determine which one will be his date to come back. As bec said: we too are the audience, we too will be surprised.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 26, 2010, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: "GirlInTheMirror"
Hm... maybe it´s 70x7...+7 or something? that would be 497 days since June 25th.

That´s November 4th.. I can´t come up with anything special on that day.... (apart from 11-4 being 7)..

Let me add that there is another interesting one, November 5th. "Remember remember, the 5th of November."

Being 498 days since June 25th (makes 21 or 777), it's also exactly 777 days until December 21, 2012.

I could go on and on because there are more interesting ones, but I'll stop now. Too many bamdates, but too many disappointments already. Just pointing out that it's impossible to guess.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on September 06, 2010, 01:50:45 AM
Update on 70 days connections. Yes, I do realize no one is going to really understand this. My brain hurts from trying to track it but it seems very purposeful, by design if you know what I mean, and I think there's even a pattern that explains the mysterious 64 period we are in right now.

I found more 70 day spans. From the burial on 9/3/09 to the original end date of This Is It's 2 week run 11/12/09 is 70 days. End phase one?

74 day break (11/12/09-->1/25/09 is 74 days, odd 4 added here or a "do over" on the 70 cycle? Holiday break in the hoax as it came to be known).

70 days before Murray's first court date on 4/5/10 was 1/25/10, or the 7 month anniversary of the "death" on 6/25/09. I think the 74 days in Holiday Break was to sync the 70 cycle up with the 7 month anniversary of "death" and to use that day as the beginning of phase two. Additionally it may be possible that the day of the week is significant, with Thursdays being the 70 day cycle day in 2009, and Mondays being the 70 day cycle day in 2010 for some as of yet unknown reason. Better day of the week to fake court maybe?

So this starts to link the time line:

Begin Phase I:
6/25/09 "death" day
70 days
9/3/09 "burial" day
70 days
11/12/09 end of TII 2 week run in theaters (showings ended up being extended)
End of Phase I

Then we have Holiday Break of 74 days.

Begin Phase II:
1/25/10 seven (7) month "death" anniversary (noted: 14 day period between 1/25 and 2/8/10, Murray arrest and arraignment)
70 days
4/5/10 Murray court date
70 days
6/14/10 Murray court date
70 days
8/23/10 Murray court date

Now we are in the middle of an assumed* 64 day stretch until,

10/26/10 scheduled meeting between lawyers and judge in Murray case
70 days
1/4/11 scheduled Murray court date

*Worthwhile to note that the projected next date hasn't occurred yet and we are used to dates being rescheduled and postponed so we will have to wait and see on what dates scheduled events actually occur.

So if we keep an eye on this, We may yet have another 70 span if the 10/26 (Tues) date is delayed 7 days until 11/1/10 (Mon), the day AFTER Halloween, which is on a Sunday.

OR, the next date could be delayed 2 days to 10/28 (Thurs) mark a 66 day period which would account for the Holiday Hoax Break of 74 days, making these two periods equal to 140 days, or two 70 day spans. If that happens this will effectively end the 7th 70 day period in the hoax and it would fall on 10/28/2010, the 490th (7 7s or 7x7) day of the hoax.

So, you guys all get it, right?  :?  :|   :geek:

At least get this: there's little chance these dates and this time line are coincidences.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: emeraldcity on September 06, 2010, 07:30:06 AM
Great detective work and calculations Bec!  ;)   No wonder your head hurts  :)   I think it's interesting to note that recording sessions for the Dangerous album began on June 25th, 1990 and ended on October 29th, 1991, a period of 16 months.  I think we've worked out that the Dangerous album is significant to the hoax and holds many clues.  Could this 16 month period be a significant timeline?  It would fit into your calculations of the last 70 days period ending in late October 2010.

"According to the sleeve notes on the later remastered edition of the album, recording sessions began in Los Angeles, California at Ocean Way/Record One Studio 2 on June 25, 1990. The sessions ended at Larrabee North and Ocean Way Studio on October 29, 1991, being the most extensive recording project of Jackson's career at the time (over 16 months compared to the usual 6 spent for his previous three studio albums)."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_(album)
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: cin_pyt on September 07, 2010, 12:42:14 PM
I hadn't seen this post Bec, wow! No coincidences perfectly planned by the MJ, the genius.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: chappie on September 07, 2010, 02:56:41 PM
[youtube:2yiip8z5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT3AkdMYXVY&feature=related[/youtube:2yiip8z5]
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: chloead505 on September 07, 2010, 03:56:44 PM
Wow!!!  :shock:
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: CC on September 07, 2010, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: "emeraldcity"
Great detective work and calculations Bec!  ;)   No wonder your head hurts  :)   I think it's interesting to note that recording sessions for the Dangerous album began on June 25th, 1990 and ended on October 29th, 1991, a period of 16 months.  I think we've worked out that the Dangerous album is significant to the hoax and holds many clues.  Could this 16 month period be a significant timeline?  It would fit into your calculations of the last 70 days period ending in late October 2010.

"According to the sleeve notes on the later remastered edition of the album, recording sessions began in Los Angeles, California at Ocean Way/Record One Studio 2 on June 25, 1990. The sessions ended at Larrabee North and Ocean Way Studio on October 29, 1991, being the most extensive recording project of Jackson's career at the time (over 16 months compared to the usual 6 spent for his previous three studio albums)."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_(album)

october = Haloween???
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: chloead505 on September 07, 2010, 04:07:18 PM
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "emeraldcity"
Great detective work and calculations Bec!  ;)   No wonder your head hurts  :)   I think it's interesting to note that recording sessions for the Dangerous album began on June 25th, 1990 and ended on October 29th, 1991, a period of 16 months.  I think we've worked out that the Dangerous album is significant to the hoax and holds many clues.  Could this 16 month period be a significant timeline?  It would fit into your calculations of the last 70 days period ending in late October 2010.

"According to the sleeve notes on the later remastered edition of the album, recording sessions began in Los Angeles, California at Ocean Way/Record One Studio 2 on June 25, 1990. The sessions ended at Larrabee North and Ocean Way Studio on October 29, 1991, being the most extensive recording project of Jackson's career at the time (over 16 months compared to the usual 6 spent for his previous three studio albums)."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_(album)

october = Haloween???

Is that supposed to be coincidence? June 25th 1990 to October 29th 1991 and June 25th 2009 to October 29th 2010 ???? Exactly the same days and period of time??
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on September 07, 2010, 11:57:34 PM
Well yeah but nothing has happened yet so it's nothing.

But the 70 day periods repeating themselves since the very start of the hoax is super dooper interesting.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: chloead505 on September 08, 2010, 04:07:49 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Well yeah but nothing has happened yet so it's nothing.

But the 70 day periods repeating themselves since the very start of the hoax is super dooper interesting.

I don't find it weird nothin's happened yet. If it should it happen, it will happen on Oct 29. And like you say, the 70-day periods are extremely interesting, esp. the fact that one hits Oct 29 2010 too.  ;)  Let's see!
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on September 09, 2010, 02:28:18 AM
No it hits 10/28/10, the 490th day.

Of course it's not weird. I meant nothing has happened yet because we are in the middle of the period. This theory only holds if something significant happens on 10/28/10 or 11/1/10 so until then it's nothing. In other words, it's only a pattern if it's predictable, otherwise its completely random and by chance.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: CC on September 09, 2010, 08:30:03 AM
Quote from: "bec"
No it hits 10/28/10, the 490th day.

Of course it's not weird. I meant nothing has happened yet because we are in the middle of the period. This theory only holds if something significant happens on 10/28/10 or 11/1/10 so until then it's nothing. In other words, it's only a pattern if it's predictable, otherwise its completely random and by chance.

28 is THURSDAY!!!!
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on September 09, 2010, 11:34:57 AM
Yes it is, which gets us back on the Thursday schedule from 2009 if the pattern is indeed a pattern and not just random coincidence.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: BeTheChange on September 14, 2010, 12:03:27 PM
Quote from: "bec"
No it hits 10/28/10, the 490th day.

 In other words, it's only a pattern if it's predictable, otherwise its completely random and by chance.

Not much of what's happened since this hoax began has been random and/or by chance.  Great detective work bec!  This is really interesting and definitely worth something to 'keep watchin'"

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: BeTheChange on September 14, 2010, 12:30:07 PM
I just discovered another '70-day' period...not sure if it's already been discussed or if it even matters:

July 7, 2010 to Sept 15, 2010 (tomorrow's panel re: MJ's charges)
70 days

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: allthesevens on September 17, 2010, 07:27:18 PM
just been reading about the 2005 trial

prosecution took 45 days
defence took 15 days

jury deliberated for 10 days

45 + 15 + 10 = 70 days
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: BeTheChange on September 17, 2010, 09:24:44 PM
I’m not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I just came across something (by fluke) while researching something completely different (hoax related, but not directly related to the 70-day periods bec discussed).  I haven’t had time to fully absorb all the info yet ‘cause I’m still trying to pick myself up off the floor!  

Maybe it’s nothing...maybe it’s just another coincidence...maybe it’s time that I be committed.  But this has sure freaked me out!

I may be wrong in understanding it...but in Daniel 9:24-27, the (first) coming and death of Christ was prophesized in terms of 70, seven-year periods.  In relation to the hoax, years obviously wouldn’t work.  What if the hoax is designed in 70, seven-week periods OR 7, 70-day periods, as outlined by bec here:

Quote from: "bec"

So this starts to link the time line:

Begin Phase I:
6/25/09 "death" day
70 days
9/3/09 "burial" day
70 days
11/12/09 end of TII 2 week run in theaters (showings ended up being extended)
End of Phase I

Then we have Holiday Break of 74 days.

Begin Phase II:
1/25/10 seven (7) month "death" anniversary (noted: 14 day period between 1/25 and 2/8/10, Murray arrest and arraignment)
70 days
4/5/10 Murray court date
70 days
6/14/10 Murray court date
70 days
8/23/10 Murray court date

Now we are in the middle of an assumed* 64 day stretch until,

10/26/10 scheduled meeting between lawyers and judge in Murray case
70 days
1/4/11 scheduled Murray court date


We know how much Mike reads the Bible, we know how much numerology is tied into the hoax, and we also know that TS has directed us to Bible passages several times (I’m just thinking out loud).   Again...I may be WAY off, but it seems really ‘coincidental’ that major events have occurred in the hoax in 70 day periods AND that at some point in HIStory these same numbers signified important events leading to the coming of Christ (granted that was years and this seems to be days or weeks).  If this seven/seventy or seventy/seven time frame is somehow tied into the timing of the hoax...that would mean (as per bec’s outline), that we are in the FINAL 70-day period!  But what does all of this mean??????  I feel like my heart knows, but my head refuses to see it!

What are the seventy sevens in Daniel 9:24-27?
http://www.gotquestions.org/seventy-sevens.html

I need a glass of wine....red!

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: CC on September 17, 2010, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: "BeTheChange"
I’m not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I just came across something (by fluke) while researching something completely different (hoax related, but not directly related to the 70-day periods bec discussed).  I haven’t had time to fully absorb all the info yet ‘cause I’m still trying to pick myself up off the floor!  

Maybe it’s nothing...maybe it’s just another coincidence...maybe it’s time that I be committed.  But this has sure freaked me out!

I may be wrong in understanding it...but in Daniel 9:24-27, the (first) coming of Christ was prophesized in terms of 70, seven-year periods.  In relation to the hoax, years obviously wouldn’t work.  What if the hoax is designed in 70, seven-week periods OR 7, 70-day periods, as outlined by bec here:

Quote from: "bec"

So this starts to link the time line:

Begin Phase I:
6/25/09 "death" day
70 days
9/3/09 "burial" day
70 days
11/12/09 end of TII 2 week run in theaters (showings ended up being extended)
End of Phase I

Then we have Holiday Break of 74 days.

Begin Phase II:
1/25/10 seven (7) month "death" anniversary (noted: 14 day period between 1/25 and 2/8/10, Murray arrest and arraignment)
70 days
4/5/10 Murray court date
70 days
6/14/10 Murray court date
70 days
8/23/10 Murray court date

Now we are in the middle of an assumed* 64 day stretch until,

10/26/10 scheduled meeting between lawyers and judge in Murray case
70 days
1/4/11 scheduled Murray court date


We know how much Mike reads the Bible, we know how much numerology is tied into the hoax, and we also know that TS has directed us to Bible passages several times (I’m just thinking out loud).   Again...I may be WAY off, but it seems really ‘coincidental’ that major events have occurred in the hoax in 70 day periods AND that at some point in HIStory these same numbers signified important events leading to the coming of Christ (granted that was years and this seems to be days or weeks).  If this seven/seventy or seventy/seven time frame is somehow tied into the timing of the hoax...that would mean (as per bec’s outline), that we are in the FINAL 70-day period!  But what does all of this mean??????  I feel like my heart knows, but my head refuses to see it!

What are the seventy sevens in Daniel 9:24-27?
http://www.gotquestions.org/seventy-sevens.html

I need a glass of wine....red!

With L.O.V.E. always.

I already have my red wine glass on the other hand... do you want some? ;)
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: BeTheChange on September 17, 2010, 09:40:43 PM
Quote from: CC

I already have my red wine glass on the other hand... do you want some? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

I think it's time to ditch the glasses and start passing the bottles  <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: CC on September 17, 2010, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: "BeTheChange"
Quote from: "CC"

I already have my red wine glass on the other hand... do you want some? ;)

I think it's time to ditch the glasses and start passing the bottles  :shock:  :o

is a wonderfull malbec 2008 from Argentina... The best taht we have !  we have to organize a party for the year on the forum... is comming fast! maybe we can have a virtual reunion and celebrate... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on September 17, 2010, 10:08:41 PM
Quote from: "MJ King Of Pop"
Quote from: "ejay"
Quote from: "mdc"
Quote from: "bec"
.net has a similar thread going and French Braid listed other 70 day periods, between Murray's court dates:

4/5/10 Murray court date ---> 6/14/10 Murray court date = 70 days
6/14/10 Murray court date---> 8/23/10 Murray court date = 70 days


Then we go 64 days to October 26th, date listed for Judge and attorneys meeting.

Then we start over with the 70 days until the next court date.

What's that all about?

Thanks to French Braid for pointing this out over at .net.


So exactly what date would be 70 days from August 23, 2010?
November 1/2010



so do u think michael could come back then november 1/2010

November 1, 2010 = (11)+(1) = (2+0+1+0).  Could translate as "1+1+1 is 3."
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on September 17, 2010, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: "allthesevens"
just been reading about the 2005 trial

prosecution took 45 days
defence took 15 days

jury deliberated for 10 days

45 + 15 + 10 = 70 days

First of all this is super dooper interesting and we shouldn't just scroll on by this bit of info are new member shared with us. Second, welcome allthesevens, I am really glad you're here. This is a good additional fact to support this (7) 70 day theory considering the Murray=metaphorical MJ theory.

BUT... I think we could maybe merge "back" username and his info into this theory. "back" specifically refers to:
Quote
the evolution of the theory continues, approaching 7 plus one day of simmering

indicating to some extent (8) 70 day periods if we are to accept 1 day=70 days. But perhaps this is assuming too much since though back does refer to the 7 day theory, he also talks about "the theory of 7", which contains no reference to a time frame. Could be 7 school buses or 7 woodchucks for all we know.
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the tHeOrY of 7 officially begins................

So best I can figure, The Theory of 7 is: 7 somethings and one day. I wish it was 7 day periods because that would mean we cracked the code and we are almost done with this part of the hoax but as always (sigh) we will have to wait and see.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on September 17, 2010, 10:51:47 PM
A thought we should consider.

I don't know why I'm assuming all of these are back clues when in fact they may have been current clues that members were supposed to pick up on so that they knew on 6/25 it was a hoax. If they didn't get it at the time, at least they would be able to reflect on them after 6/25 and maybe follow that rabbit hole into the hoax. I don't think many of them did so to large extent, if this is the case, back is a failure.

It is possible that back was referring to the date of "death" to the MJJC board. Maybe all these posts are hints and clues pointing to and warning of 6/25/09. Maybe the code adds up to that date and have nothing to do with bamsday.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: Elsa on September 17, 2010, 11:28:12 PM
Quote from: "ejay"
Quote from: "mdc"
Quote from: "bec"
.net has a similar thread going and French Braid listed other 70 day periods, between Murray's court dates:

4/5/10 Murray court date ---> 6/14/10 Murray court date = 70 days
6/14/10 Murray court date---> 8/23/10 Murray court date = 70 days


Then we go 64 days to October 26th, date listed for Judge and attorneys meeting.

Then we start over with the 70 days until the next court date.

What's that all about?

Thanks to French Braid for pointing this out over at .net.


So exactly what date would be 70 days from August 23, 2010?
November 1/2010


If you count using inclusive reckoning with August 23 as 1 then the 70th day is October 31 2010- Halloween.  November 1 or 11-01-10 would be 71 days like the number on the ambulance. 70 plus 1?


Quote from: "bec"
No it hits 10/28/10, the 490th day.

Of course it's not weird. I meant nothing has happened yet because we are in the middle of the period. This theory only holds if something significant happens on 10/28/10 or 11/1/10 so until then it's nothing. In other words, it's only a pattern if it's predictable, otherwise its completely random and by chance.
 

bec, I admire your perseverance.  I once had tables where I was following key number patterns in the dates and times - but I've been distracted by other hoax-related phenomenon.  

Again using inclusive reckoning would the date for 490 days be 10/28/10?  Using an online calculator like http://www.timeanddate.com (http://www.timeanddate.com), I always put the first date a day early or add one at the end - otherwise the first day isn't included in the count.  That's assuming inclusive reckoning is being used.

To see the whole pattern we really need the start date for the hoax.  Is it June 25 2009 or before then? Maybe the O2 announcement?  Or do we need to go back years?
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on September 18, 2010, 12:09:37 AM
You can't use exclusive reckoning when counting the total of a string of continuous days because then each start and end day would be counted twice for the blocks within the time frame, resulting in too high a count. You could use it on the entire block of 490 days in which case 10/29/2010 is the 490th day, but you cannot apply it randomly to just the last 70 period.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: Elsa on September 18, 2010, 05:15:45 AM
Quote from: "bec"
You can't use exclusive reckoning when counting the total of a string of continuous days because then each start and end day would be counted twice for the blocks within the time frame, resulting in too high a count. You could use it on the entire block of 490 days in which case 10/29/2010 is the 490th day, but you cannot apply it randomly to just the last 70 period.

bec, I see your point.  I was using inclusive reckoning because TS explained it in TIAI - but it does count days twice when you add the blocks of time, which changes the overall pattern.  There are definitely non-random patterns in the key dates - and I guess the more we see, the clearer the pattern will become.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: loma on September 18, 2010, 10:54:19 AM
Also keep in mind November 2nd is.. Dia de los Muertos.  :?
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on September 18, 2010, 10:59:53 AM
Quote from: "loma"
Also keep in mind November 2nd is.. Dia de los Muertos.  :?

Day of the Dead. 11/1 and 11/2 actually according to some cultures.

Also the day said that the Monarch butterflies return to their winter home in the migration path. The butterflies arrival is said to symbolize dead loved ones returning home.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: loma on September 18, 2010, 11:50:20 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "loma"
Also keep in mind November 2nd is.. Dia de los Muertos.  :?

Day of the Dead. 11/1 and 11/2 actually according to some cultures.

Also the day said that the Monarch butterflies return to their winter home in the migration path. The butterflies arrival is said to symbolize dead loved ones returning home.
True.  ;)
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on September 18, 2010, 12:37:47 PM
"In most regions of Mexico, November 1 honors children and infants, whereas deceased adults are honored on November 2. This is indicated by generally referring to November 1 mainly as Día de los Inocentes ('Day of the Innocents') but also as Día de los Angelitos('Day of the Little Angels') and November 2 as Día de los Muertos or Día de los Difuntos ('Day of the Dead')" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dead)).

Given WHO we are dealing with, my bet would be on the "children's" day, November 1.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: Red_Rose on September 19, 2010, 06:21:53 AM
Quote from: "loma"
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "loma"
Also keep in mind November 2nd is.. Dia de los Muertos.  :?

Day of the Dead. 11/1 and 11/2 actually according to some cultures.

Also the day said that the Monarch butterflies return to their winter home in the migration path. The butterflies arrival is said to symbolize dead loved ones returning home.
True.  ;)
WoW.. I didn't know that...in which culture/ countries? LOVE the part with butterflies
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: Puff on September 19, 2010, 06:26:42 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "loma"
Also keep in mind November 2nd is.. Dia de los Muertos.  :?

Day of the Dead. 11/1 and 11/2 actually according to some cultures.

Also the day said that the Monarch butterflies return to their winter home in the migration path. The butterflies arrival is said to symbolize dead loved ones returning home.

11/1 is All Saint's day in Western Christianity
11/2 is All Souls' Day (Day of the dead)
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: loma on September 19, 2010, 11:16:57 AM
It originated from the Mayan culture.

If there is no bam until then, November 1+2 are undoubtedly gonna be big.
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: SEHF on September 19, 2010, 12:50:34 PM
2 - 0 - 1 - 2
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on September 19, 2010, 01:21:57 PM
We have had our eye on the Day of the Dead since this time last year.

I believe TIAI started on this day 2009 if memory serves?
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: jessovbhe on October 25, 2010, 03:47:30 PM
when i first read about the 29th october thing i was kinda weirded out cuz thats Randy's birthday O_o
he will be 49 and if you x that by 10 (oct is 10th month), its 490, which relates back to the 490 days thing.
plus another thing i noticed about 29/10/10 is 29+10+10 = 49 (randys age on that day) hmmm..... :/
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: looking4truth on December 30, 2010, 01:56:17 PM
reminder to re-read
Title: Re: 70 days
Post by: bec on December 30, 2010, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: "jessovbhe"
when i first read about the 29th october thing i was kinda weirded out cuz thats Randy's birthday O_o
he will be 49 and if you x that by 10 (oct is 10th month), its 490, which relates back to the 490 days thing.
plus another thing i noticed about 29/10/10 is 29+10+10 = 49 (randys age on that day) hmmm..... :/

Oh that is a neat thing isn't it?

Thanks for posting that jesso, thanks for posting in general! You should do it more often, welcome to the family  :D

10/29/10 was the 491st day of the hoax, and the first day of the 8th 70 day cycle.
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