Regarding fakes and other musings... (split)

[skyways]

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[skyways]

Isn't it amazing we still discuss this all this time later! Is it him, isn't it him? I know what I think but I could easily be wrong. Do you think we'll ever know for sure or will it go down in history as one of the unsolved mysteries regarding Mr Jackson!

One thing I do know for sure though, finfin's sig is mesmerising!  Teasingly play stroking her hair, biting that bottom lip and that little head movement at the end .... ahh, I've come over all unnecessary again!!!

all that To Be or Not To Be  endless discussion reminds me FRONt post regarding Pink Pantera clown suite for MJ and how fans look at Michael on this disguise and saying -"Nah, cant be true.." and walk away from Michael on opposed direction


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[SimPattyK]

Pablo appears in these videos without the mask....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aFkbxvzONM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBNJi_FS4GI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvErsLSJjnc[/youtube]

[MJonmind]

Sim, I gotta say your breakdown cracked me up. You should be a trial lawyer.

@Souza, yes, it's circus time. We are all losing our collective minds. TICK-effing-TOCK.

Ps. I hope anyone who is solicited in some other facet online by this most recent TROLL is EXTREMELY careful. It left red flags lying all over the joint, girls, take good care of yourselves and proceed with caution.

Just to be fair Bec:

Front on: June 18, 2011, 06:13:57 PM »

Bec, relax...and PLEASE examine, ponder, reflect and contemplate a little more before you leap to conclusions and make such egregious "ASS"umptions that yours truly is a troll. That I'm not. I promise you that!

SOME times the eyes play tricks on us…..and OFTEN times a momentary SHIFT in perspective is not only needed but imperative in order to make all the pieces of this gargantuan puzzle fit together. Formulas…equations…numbers…there is more than one way to execute it but you get the SAME answer.

The world {r}evolves as time progresses---a "momental modifier". So too do individuals and PLANS. To expect everything to be EXACTLY as it was 5 years ago with absolutely NO deviations is a precursor for failure to comprehend and decipher. There is logic and reason in everything I have posted…according to PLAN. You'll see. Wait until the "PIE" is done before you predict the "taste" with haste. Please be patient as the NEW 7DT continues…………….

To everyone else who is being positive and THINKING FOR YOURSELF………plz continue and plz----> Keep Watchin'.

Pablo's physical appearance, and dance ability was about this close >< to the real thing. I've not seen any better except MJ himself.  Now why is that? How could he be a troll, unless he stole someone else's videos or spoke for the dancer who is too shy to talk to us.  Yes, the man is speaking mysteriously, cryptically, and evasively and with attitude, but so did Back and Front sometimes.  There is no way this guy was like the many fakers, trolls, posers out there.

It reminds me of one of the kiddie plastic hammering toys my boys had--you bang down one post and then another one pops up. That's our Morph-Mike!

[RK]

Quote from MJonmind...

Pablo's physical appearance, and dance ability was about this close >< to the real thing. I've not seen any better except MJ himself.

You said it. A pure delight to watch.  As well as entertaining  and relieving that sense of cabin fever we can feel at times on this long haul hoax journey. We were playing along, as was Pablo.   

[bec]

Sim, I gotta say your breakdown cracked me up. You should be a trial lawyer.

@Souza, yes, it's circus time. We are all losing our collective minds. TICK-effing-TOCK.

Ps. I hope anyone who is solicited in some other facet online by this most recent TROLL is EXTREMELY careful. It left red flags lying all over the joint, girls, take good care of yourselves and proceed with caution.

Just to be fair Bec:

Front on: June 18, 2011, 06:13:57 PM »

Bec, relax...and PLEASE examine, ponder, reflect and contemplate a little more before you leap to conclusions and make such egregious "ASS"umptions that yours truly is a troll. That I'm not. I promise you that!

SOME times the eyes play tricks on us…..and OFTEN times a momentary SHIFT in perspective is not only needed but imperative in order to make all the pieces of this gargantuan puzzle fit together. Formulas…equations…numbers…there is more than one way to execute it but you get the SAME answer.

The world {r}evolves as time progresses---a "momental modifier". So too do individuals and PLANS. To expect everything to be EXACTLY as it was 5 years ago with absolutely NO deviations is a precursor for failure to comprehend and decipher. There is logic and reason in everything I have posted…according to PLAN. You'll see. Wait until the "PIE" is done before you predict the "taste" with haste. Please be patient as the NEW 7DT continues…………….

To everyone else who is being positive and THINKING FOR YOURSELF………plz continue and plz----> Keep Watchin'.

Pablo's physical appearance, and dance ability was about this close >< to the real thing. I've not seen any better except MJ himself.  Now why is that? How could he be a troll, unless he stole someone else's videos or spoke for the dancer who is too shy to talk to us.  Yes, the man is speaking mysteriously, cryptically, and evasively and with attitude, but so did Back and Front sometimes.  There is no way this guy was like the many fakers, trolls, posers out there.

It reminds me of one of the kiddie plastic hammering toys my boys had--you bang down one post and then another one pops up. That's our Morph-Mike!

I disagree with fair. Apples/oranges.

Actually more like apples/sofa cushions.

When I say WE have lost our collective minds, that's of course the imperial WE and you know what that means.

Get a grip, people.

[pikachu]

the problem is not in Pablo, he is a talented man and seems to be a devoted fan of MJ,
inspired by him, doing beautiful, hearty things in Mj's honor... He did just one BIG mistake
''speaking mysteriously, cryptically, and evasively and with attitude" --
but he's allegedly not in the hoax, so is not aware of our little psychological problems, lol,
and WHY he had to appear unmasked from the very beginning, or to leave this weird place
as soon as he explained whose video and who he is and so on..

but, I guarantee you, even in that case lots of people wouldn't have believed he IS NOT MJ
and would have continued to compare MJ's and Pablo's hands and height.
So, something wrong with US. Thanks to MJ himself and his multiple legit and non-legit 'mimickers',
we became extremely hysterical and probably soon will start to faint at the sight of every new MJ,
screaming like crazy girls on his concerts. (guess, he loves secretly this show ; )

So maybe people should just calm down and stop seeing MJ in every piece of wood,
and probably MJ should stop sending to here his agents-provocateurs (if he does this, of course)
if their mission is stirring the pot only, and sure he should get back asap --
until the best part of his fan-base is not completely loonies yet.)

( * thought, sure, who cares, there is a giant plan, so some sacrifices are inevitable...)

[MJonmind]

Pablo appears in these videos without the mask....

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Thanks Simpa.  I only noticed this one now, since I posted right after you and didn't go back. Did you actually see the video?
At least it's good of him to end the charade.
And I feel a little  :icon_redface: and  :icon_evil:.

[diggyon]

Pablo appears in these videos without the mask....

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Great catch, Sim!!!! How did you know that was him?

[SimPattyK]

the problem is not in Pablo, he is a talented man and seems to be a devoted fan of MJ,
inspired by him, doing beautiful, hearty things in Mj's honor... He did just one BIG mistake
''speaking mysteriously, cryptically, and evasively and with attitude" --
but he's allegedly not in the hoax, so is not aware of our little psychological problems, lol,
and WHY he had to appear unmasked from the very beginning, or to leave this weird place
as soon as he explained whose video and who he is and so on..

but, I guarantee you, even in that case lots of people wouldn't have believed he IS NOT MJ
and would have continued to compare MJ's and Pablo's hands and height.
So, something wrong with US. Thanks to MJ himself and his multiple legit and non-legit 'mimickers',
we became extremely hysterical and probably soon will start to faint at the sight of every new MJ,
screaming like crazy girls on his concerts. (guess, he loves secretly this show ; )

So maybe people should just calm down and stop seeing MJ in every piece of wood,
and probably MJ should stop sending to here his agents-provocateurs (if he does this, of course)
if their mission is stirring the pot only, and sure he should get back asap --
until the best part of his fan-base is not completely loonies yet.)

( * thought, sure, who cares, there is a giant plan, so some sacrifices are inevitable...)

EXCELLENT!! 
 I couldn't applaud you MORE for this!!!



@MjonMind & diggyon: yesterday I wrote to Pablo in private , on youtube, to tell him I felt sorry for what happened to him and to ask him if he was ok. I also told him that the MASK sure helps him protect his identity, but it will also continue to expose him to trouble like this and to people's doubts and fears that he might try to fool them! it's like a double sword....
He of course said he was not ok and he sent me several messages where he again explained himself and he also surprisingly for me, sent me these 3 links with videos where he appears without the mask!
I told him that even though I watched his videos for more than a year now... I can't say I watched them all, I surely missed part of them, namely those without the mask! Actually I think he had them set on "private mode" that's why we couldn't see them! Now the videos are "private" again.
I told him I wished he had posted them earlier on the forum ... that would have saved him a lot of trouble! As I said in my message on the previous page here,  this was a LESSON for all of us!! I hope he learned from it , too!!

I asked him if he wants me to post those videos now, on the forum, to make things clear for people here. He replied "Do whatever u think.. I for my part Im done with this."

[diggyon]

Ohh  I see! I really feel sorry for that guy, although I didn't like his mysterious way! And as pikachu said, we have people in here who are looking for Michael everywhere so whenever someone like Pablo with his mysterious attitude shows up everyone will jump on him first. But after realizing that he is not MJ he is treated badly!!!!!! I really don't know whom to blame! Is it the paranoia created along with the hoax or is it Pablo and his mysterious way! Anyway, the guy left but there sure will be more people like him paying this forum a visit!!! The lesson the people here should learn is to stop looking for MJ everywhere. He is around and we know that. I know that people would love to talk to him personally but maybe it's not the right time for him to reveal himself now. So people have to be patient. Maybe after the bam things change. And even if he doesn't reveal himself after the bam on the forum it's enough for us to know that the he was around and he was reading everything we have been posting!     

[GINAFELICIA]

Ohh  I see! I really feel sorry for that guy, although I didn't like his mysterious way! And as pikachu said, we have people in here who are looking for Michael everywhere so whenever someone like Pablo with his mysterious attitude shows up everyone will jump on him first. But after realizing that he is not MJ he is treated badly!!!!!! I really don't know whom to blame! Is it the paranoia created along with the hoax or is it Pablo and his mysterious way! Anyway, the guy left but there sure will be more people like him paying this forum a visit!!! The lesson the people here should learn is to stop looking for MJ everywhere. He is around and we know that. I know that people would love to talk to him personally but maybe it's not the right time for him to reveal himself now. So people have to be patient. Maybe after the bam things change. And even if he doesn't reveal himself after the bam on the forum it's enough for us to know that the he was around and he was reading everything we have been posting!     

no it's not enough

[bec]

I think...

we had better steel ourselves for the strong possibility that we have grossly inflated our own sense of importance and involvement in these hoax proceedings. Become drunk on our own minds, if you will.

It is very realistically possible that MJ will not reveal himself to us, nor even give a forum-clue to the imminent Bam, that we will find out like everyone else on this good earth, and be just as surprised as they are when the time comes (except possibly for different reasons...).

It is equally possible that MJ will give no mention of us at that time, nor ever clear up any of the doubts and questions about these curious usernames, nor all the happenings that occurred during the hoax.

We may be left forever having to create and settle on our own brand of truth, even after the Bam.

[SimPattyK]

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We may be left forever having to create and settle on our own brand of truth, even after the Bam.

All is possible, you're right!

The Magician will never reveal his secrets, at least not all.

[wishingstar]

Indeed, bec......
I hope this isn't the case, however.  In the grand scheme of things, we are a mere pittance, a drop of whatever in the bucket of this hoax.  Were we "foreseen" by Michael....a group of people coming together like this......probably.  Michael seems to be very aware of his surroundings and what may or may not go on.  His intuition most likely told him something like, "beLIEvers" would happen.  My hope is, that he sees us crazies, for the love we share, the hope we provide and thoughts that we stream.  That he will at least acknowledge us.....so as to clear our good names, not to mention restore our minds, lol.  I don't know about you all.....but, my mind has been mush lately.  It's a marathon of thought progression that nothing can hold a candle to.  My thoughts have been creating a non-stop dance in my mind for 2.5 years.  They flitter around faster than Michael's spins, glade back to things like a slick moonwalk and finally surrender with arms open wide.....begging to know what's really going on.  My thoughts are my own pot-stirring device......no witch needed, lol. 
All this being said, I totally get what bec said here.  We do need to grasp hold of the notion that we just do not matter.  Or.....perhaps we do, and the ride down the rabbit hole will continue even after BAM.  How that would go....who knows.....it's Michael, he'll figure it out.  I get the feeling we'd be among the last to know or recognize bam......don't ask me why, I just feel it. 

Blessings

PS> Absolutely, Sim....The Magician would never reveal everything : )