Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Theories => Michael's Reasons to hoax his death => Topic started by: *Mo* on March 15, 2010, 01:47:02 PM
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New World Order and depopulation
[youtube:opxq6imt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMviI1Acyyc[/youtube:opxq6imt]
[youtube:opxq6imt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuVfPv3lrB4[/youtube:opxq6imt]
[youtube:opxq6imt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjATDClfa6E[/youtube:opxq6imt]
Greetz, Mo & Souza
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I cannot view the first 2 - says they are private.
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All three videos have been set to public view, but as we experienced with our videos lately it might take a while before you can actually watch them... :?
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Still can´t see them, I´ll wait a while.
But as I sense where this part is going, I´m going ahead posting this that I´ve posted before somewhere else:
Nssm 200-Kissinger Report:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/10059513/Nssm-200Kissinger-Report
They have documented plans of depopulation for 40 years now, and they are acheiving them.
People WAKE UP, these are FACTS.
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As a child, I was taught to be thankful and proud to be an American. Our "freedom" really doesn't mean much to me now. In fact, it makes me sick. The only thing driving my life now is trying to get more people to recognize what is really going on in our world and especially in our country...in hopes of it being a better place for future generations.
What more can we do? I feel like something concrete needs to be done. Does anyone know of any letgitimate organizations open to the public that focus on fighting these things?
I think Michael's message is clear, and we need to spread the word. Action must be taken, but where do we start? I've been telling my mom about these things for a couple of years, and she listens, but the conversation always ends the same with her telling me that I can't change the world.
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@jacilovesmichael, I really like your post, you hit the nail on the head when you said:
The only thing driving my life now is trying to get more people to recognize what is really going on in our world and especially in our country...in hopes of it being a better place for future generations.
I don´t see the meaning on driving my life to achieve what they have sold to me anymore. But this fighting against has all the meaning of the world to me.
"especially in our country" I don´t agree with that, sorry.
About organizations... if it´s organization, it does not work, as it seems. Where there´s an organization, someone comes to infiltrate. I think we must keep on doing what we´re doing, speaking about it, and the internet is our best friend and our worst enemy.
Where do we start? we have already started.
Maybe sometimes it seems that we´re loosing our time, but I think this is the way.
I think we have already stopped many issues, such as the forced vaccination last year.
Encourage to keep fighting!
It encourages me reading from people like you.
Just seeing other people realize it all means a world to me.
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Amerika ur country, mine the victim!
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thanks MO for the videos...enlightening
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Has anyone even noticed how gray Obama is getting trying to push this health bill? Though his intentions might be good, anything that is mandated by the government for everyone to participate in, regardless, is in my opinion bad news. And giving the government that kind of power over our healthcare is scary to say the least. If they are going to allow healthcare for all, there are bound to be some sneak attacks in there somewhere. I don't like it.
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I don´t think Obama has good intentions with this program, but new profits for corporations and taking more control. It seems they are only interested on it now, whe they can have connected databases.
But having a public health system is not bad or scary itself at all. USA is one of the few countries that doesn´t have one because they´re afraid of any social(ist) body. If I get sick the health system takes care of me and spend what ever takes, and I don´t have to loose my house paying for it... Remember More´s Sicko...
Seriously, USA is really afraid of everything having to do with socialism, even if people does not understand the meaning of the word, just thinking it´s all dictatorial comunism means.. ???? We need more social work and less privatizations and liberalism!
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I don´t think Obama has good intentions with this program, but new profits for corporations and taking more control. It seems they are only interested on it now, whe they can have connected databases.
But having a public health system is not bad or scary itself at all. USA is one of the few countries that doesn´t have one because they´re afraid of any social(ist) body. If I get sick the health system takes care of me and spend what ever takes, and I don´t have to loose my house paying for it... Remember More´s Sicko...
Seriously, USA is really afraid of everything having to do with socialism, even if people does not understand the meaning of the word, just thinking it´s all dictatorial comunism means.. ???? We need more social work and less privatizations and liberalism!
How exactly does it work? How is it determined who pays what? Are there certain tests, etc. that everyone has to take in order to participate? I am leary of it possibly because I just don't understand exactly how it will benefit the entire nation. Are you free to decide what doctors you can use, etc.? Enlighten me, please. I am curious.
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i feel like there is no escape =(( they are powerful....
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i feel like there is no escape =(( they are powerful....
They are only powerful if we let them, if we stay silent and follow like sheeps. As soon as the public speaks up, they will lose power. The more people wake up, the less power they will have.
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i feel like there is no escape =(( they are powerful....
They are only powerful if we let them, if we stay silent and follow like sheeps. As soon as the public speaks up, they will lose power. The more people wake up, the less power they will have.
so what can we do then ? :?
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so how can there be justic with all this money?...the estate of MJ just made a new deal, with Sony. for $200 million dollars.....It is not a mystery now!!!...why the family is all smiles, as they say "we are looking for Michael's killers" [Jermaine's big smile]
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I live in south east Queensland, Australia and the gov't here just flouridated the drinking water last year. There was opposition but they achieved their agenda and now what comes from our dams and reserves has flouride added. We've got chickens and fruit and vegie gardens and rain catchment tanks, but I'm at a loss of what else I can do. I pray that collectively we can make enough noise to stop their plans. By the way, you girls are doing a great job.
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I'am here in Mexico, and the good thing is the peopl just won't do what the Gov. tells them to do...poverty has it's own rewards.
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Thank you for the videos very informative.
:geek: :)
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@hesouttamylife:
How exactly does it work? How is it determined who pays what?
It depends on the country or region but roughly, workers pay a porcentage of the salary depending on how much the salary is. The State pays everything related to health (not cosmetics, caprices and so on). It includes pensions, compulsory retirement, you get the most of your salary when you sick leave (part from state and part from the company you work for). Includes all kind of expensive tests and procedures. Of course it has its fails.
Are there certain tests, etc. that everyone has to take in order to participate?
Everyone has the right, no test. It´s universal. From the day you´re conceived.
I am leary of it possibly because I just don't understand exactly how it will benefit the entire nation. Are you free to decide what doctors you can use, etc.?
More or less, you can choose family doctor. But the public doctors, machines and centers are the best. If you´re in a private clinic and need complicated test, they tend to send you to a public hospital. Cuban public health systems is one of the best in the world, if not the best.
But I don´t know how it is going to be in your country, as you have denied this for many years and population there may be easy to cheat on this. We have a knowledge of our rights in this matter for years... Even we are facing the attempt to destroy it all by applying your actual system. They are trying to privatize part without our knowledge, I mean, the states are trying to contract parts of it with private corporations, (maybe that´s the way they are doing it in the USA) they are trying to wash our brains and make us prefer private clinics, which is somthing we have to fight against.
You can watch Sicko if you haven´t. If I cut my hand, I don´t have to choose what finger I want to preserve depending on the money I have... I can preserve them all for free... If I have a premature son, I don´t have to pay for the incubator daily... For us is inconceivable what we see in your country in movies or TV series. I have the feeling that the USA has expended such a lot of time believing in the aggressive capitalism as a sign of freedom that there people is really lost about what it really envolves. Everything related with social something has been demonized. And again, I don´t trust they are going to apply a honest public health system there. Same way European Union or World Union sounds good, but depending on HOW.
Universal public health system benefits are inquestionable, but it depends on how they build it, as everything. Ours, is the result of centuries of fightings for our rights. But I think you had a system once, so all of you should STUDY it and regain it in the best way.
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@jacilovesmichael, I really like your post, you hit the nail on the head when you said:
The only thing driving my life now is trying to get more people to recognize what is really going on in our world and especially in our country...in hopes of it being a better place for future generations.
I don´t see the meaning on driving my life to achieve what they have sold to me anymore. But this fighting against has all the meaning of the world to me.
"especially in our country" I don´t agree with that, sorry.
About organizations... if it´s organization, it does not work, as it seems. Where there´s an organization, someone comes to infiltrate. I think we must keep on doing what we´re doing, speaking about it, and the internet is our best friend and our worst enemy.
Where do we start? we have already started.
Maybe sometimes it seems that we´re loosing our time, but I think this is the way.
I think we have already stopped many issues, such as the forced vaccination last year.
Encourage to keep fighting!
It encourages me reading from people like you.
Just seeing other people realize it all means a world to me.
Thank you for your response! I guess the only reason I included "especially in our country" (meaning America), is that it just seems like there are more lies here. I have never been anywhere else though, so I really don't know. It's just that by being "advanced" in media and technology we are made to believe we are "ahead" of other countries. To me, that translates to we are more STUPID than other countries, if anything. It's going on everywhere though, I realize that.
I like what you said about the internet being our best friend and worst enemy, that sure is the truth. What I've learned the most is how important it is to look into every single piece of information further than just what is on the surface.
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jacilovesmichael I think every country is STUPID in his own way. I can see from outside there how your country is stupid, but I also saddly see from here how mine is... they said it once, they were going to use different ways and regimens to cheat people in each country... so for one capitalism may be valid, while others have a dictatorial communism (what about if we claim for a honest socialism). In Spain they have half of the work done just not translating and dubbing certain things. But if you can speak languages you have half of the work done...
But I must recognize that your stupidity (and sometimes arrogance) affects to the rest of the world as well as ours affects South America and Africa.
(Please all of you understand the use of stupidity here, I don´t want to be missunderstood).
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somekindofsign wrote; Seriously, USA is really afraid of everything having to do with socialism, even if people does not understand the meaning of the word, just thinking it´s all dictatorial comunism means.. ???? We need more social work and less privatizations and liberalism!
Okay, socialism has been much maligne by the media, and has also contributed the corruption of man.
Particularly I think the subject of consciousness is linked to two aspects intrinsic to every human being, one is the location of our life, which has to do with what is called the destination, ie, that part of our life that did not depend of our decisions, for example, where we are born, our parents, our siblings, family, environment, therefore the values we inculcate or to educate us in the "society".
Consciousness, then, is a choice, ie we make ourselves our conscience, we have the spine (which we assign the "destiny"), which can be good or bad, it can guide us to the bad or what good, but really we that we decided to strengthen, whether evil or good, there is what is called the supra ideological structure of the system, capitalism is above structure is intended to reinforce the values of capitalism, so, since the school, television, friends, family, religion and society as a whole inculcate individualism, profit, advantage, competition, winning, selfishness, love of money, arrogance, etc.
For the capitalist logic and ethics has no parent values based on what we know as home, the national state, the limit determined by the customs, language, music and more. can not be above the market, it is proposed that globalization and the end of national states, which are the products and the market that sets the boundaries.
Socialist consciousness is determined by social values, and have to do, or are manifested in the practice, now, well, socialist consciousness can not be decreed, that is, I can not decree that starting tomorrow and I am conscious socialist therefore I am a socialist, socialist consciousness is a construction, or rather the destruction of false consciousness and awareness building.
The "capitalistic consciousness' does not exist, is false, is rather unconsciousness, this is the lineup for the false, is vain, is unreal, is formed by a world of ideas related to a" prosperity "determined by material possession, the capitalist consciousness brother does not care, nor friendship, nor love, nor poverty, nor the earth, nor air, nor the universe, the capitalist consciousness unconsciousness is total, no other logic that supports the maximization of gain "and intensification of alter ego.
The "socialist consciousness" is consciousness, is to understand that this is one and take care of this planet and beyond our profits, because all is well, not a single country or social sector, is to accept and recognize the rest of the human species and all species, we are in an ecosystem where we all need, not to sell or buy goods, but to live, to maintain and reproduce life, to be conscious is to love, to want, is to retain , is sharing, is to prosper together, is to believe in peace.
Now, as to be aware?, Brother and sister thinking, thought, looking within ourselves, asking that we do for this country and this planet, fed our minds with good books, good topics, feeding our minds with good thoughts, good music, good scenery, watching the sky, replacing the cement of the mall by the breeze of the seats, the window full of items that we do not need the landscape of trees and birds, the air conditioning noise by music of the breeze, the pleasant conversation of his friend, brother, the companion of the mother or the child before the cold of the television monologue, is socially conscious to be aware of ourselves, is to think, reflect and act, is be consistent, is to think, feel and act as one, and not carried away by the unconsciousness of capitalism, we instill the trash television and above all the ideological structure of capitalist system. ;)
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Wow! ;)
That remains me to the great message in the WONDERFUL film "A beautiful mind" and John Nash theories.
John Nash is a case with lost of parallels with MJ case, how they have been silenced.
Social / Nash Equilibrium = Me as a part of all of us.
The benefit of all is the best for the group.
Capitalism /Hobbes = I´m a part against all of us.
My benefict is the first and is the best for the group.
[youtube:7i29tt9p]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU-VkrU1Dvw[/youtube:7i29tt9p]
This would be more on Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2...
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somekindofsign I watch the video when I get to my house, I'm leaving work now, .. :lol:
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A beautiful mind, Demonstrates how the power of love is able to overcome any obstacles. ;)
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Plus that the benefit of the group is the best for the group and that if you say it aloud they electroshock you :lol: :lol:
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Mande?!
Sorry poopies, don´t understand.
Je ne comprends pas. :lol:
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Mande?!
Sorry poopies, don´t understand.
Je ne comprends pas. :lol:
Say bye bye to poopies! ;)
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What is it all about?
What happen with all this sudden new members last days?
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What is it all about?
What happen with all this sudden new members last days?
Snipers...Bad plants... or just annoying
We just ban them when we see them, they are of no value to the forum, they are only here to cause drama...
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There is one thing ..there where kids and adults they get the flu before the injection and died in the hospitals. For me there is a bigger concern..HOW IN THE HELL THEY GET THIS DESEASES???? Suddenly there is a bird flu then goats and sheep's then the crazy cow deases
We never have those deseases in the world. Same as HIV virus..how do people get this?
I'll think we have 2 lab's One who make those deseases , and one for the vaccines.
I'll think those chemical factory's, create all those things..we have to stop those people!!
BUT HOW???? :roll:
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There is one thing ..there where kids and adults they get the flu before the injection and died in the hospitals. For me there is a bigger concern..HOW IN THE HELL THEY GET THIS DESEASES???? Suddenly there is a bird flu then goats and sheep's then the crazy cow deases
We never have those deseases in the world. Same as HIV virus..how do people get this?
I'll think we have 2 lab's One who make those deseases , and one for the vaccines.
I'll think those chemical factory's, create all those things..we have to stop those people!!
BUT HOW???? :roll:
WTH ? so the flu was created by the government ? are you sure about this ..
this is insane .. :x :cry:
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LavdHim, watch this and search information, then reach your own conclusion... ;)
[youtube:3w8ddtbn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiELv7lmtT0[/youtube:3w8ddtbn]
[youtube:3w8ddtbn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf8AzCrR-RE&feature=channel[/youtube:3w8ddtbn]
[youtube:3w8ddtbn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1rimu2r92o&feature=channel[/youtube:3w8ddtbn]
[youtube:3w8ddtbn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VX6kmDHugc&feature=channel[/youtube:3w8ddtbn]
[youtube:3w8ddtbn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k_2qA4KdV8&feature=channel[/youtube:3w8ddtbn]
[youtube:3w8ddtbn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rBiLs3nqEk&feature=channel[/youtube:3w8ddtbn]
http://theflucase.com/
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I also recommend this interview. Is long and it is subtitled but worths it...
1/6 BELL TOLLING for the Swine Flu (CAMPANAS por la gripe A) subtitled
[youtube:2widnnye]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0JqQyl09zQ[/youtube:2widnnye]
Further information here: Artificial Flu (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpersonal.telefonica.terra.es%2Fweb%2Fmarxz%2Fgripe%2F&sl=es&tl=en)
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Please, I ask you all to watch the video Bell Tolling for the Swine Flu , Not so long and worthwhile. 8-)
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I also recommend this interview. Is long and it is subtitled but worths it...
1/6 BELL TOLLING for the Swine Flu (CAMPANAS por la gripe A) subtitled
[youtube:339zjn9g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0JqQyl09zQ[/youtube:339zjn9g]
Further information here: Artificial Flu (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpersonal.telefonica.terra.es%2Fweb%2Fmarxz%2Fgripe%2F&sl=es&tl=en)
OMG ..thanks for the videos .. I have seen them .. it's crazy really .. :? :cry:
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There are a lot people that the Socialist alternative seemed fatal looks you like blackmail livelihoods. A baladronada catastrophist of those not finding no other arguments to support their particular idea in the world, rely on fear. When fear,!, that instrument virtuoso to twist wills, to manipulate consciences, finally: so the world go by the way that others given the WINS.
But is this perception?. First is a statement that excludes capitalism, which even mentions him, gives it dead or evicted, while until yesterday, that system world looked as the history of socialism as its polar opposite, enemy their dialectical contradiction - like say some. The contradiction capitalismo-socialismo we presented without alternatives and taught many us pos-capitalista society would necessarily Socialist, although it was forbidden to discuss the only model of socialism possible was the Soviet Union and only human clairvoyant and omniscient was Stalin
"Everything collapsed", then, is recent history that you don't have once more.
Today, those who we are committed to the construction of socialism, carefully we maintain respect for precursors and tried to rescue them what we looks salvageable, but disturbing novelty that increasingly validates more people, to build socialism, or what each who wants to understand, "or invented or were mistaken". And worse yet: this reality we is present and not by chance, just capitalism seems to have exhausted all survival resource
Capitalism has exhausted the world, but it would be so confused that there are out there, end of understanding the world is running out to all: * two billion human beings living poorly with less than a dollar per day.
* More than one hundred millions of human beings to be landless to live only in India and Bangladesh, by the increase in the level of water that is causing the melting of the poles
* The madness of a fundamental human food grain to produce fuel for vehicles promotes hunger and lack of water for human consumption.
* The legions of unemployed throughout the world are increasing every day.
* There are thousands of houses uninhabited for lack of a buyer and thousands of people living in the open not to have recourse to buy a House.
* There are hundreds of banks and insurance broken companies and Governments that continue printing paper currency as if the role would eat
These and many examples more fatally targeting the vision of a system, modes of life, a set of social relations of production, shuffled against each other not to find the door to new forms of coexistence more fair, towards a new social pact that way diffuse but unanimous call socialism.
Are there alternatives? Some people think that if. Those who benefit until unimaginable, incifrable, suggest some alternatives to relieve the pressure on the system. Things such as reduced by any means the number of human beings on the planet to a minimum figure to work slave for the benefit of the same elite that has brought us here. Fewer mouths to feed, less pressure on the planet, less social outbursts concerns seem to be grounds for those who wield power and feel eternal or founder of a dynasty. Are powerful bugs grouped in "secret" :lol: lodges as Club Bildenberg
A planetary, Government only with a single global market, with an army and a single currency, regulated by a World Bank only.
* International services that will complete the destruction of any national identity through its Subversion from within. It will only allow flourish universal values.
* The control mankind through means of mental manipulation. This plan is described in the book Technotronic Era (Era Tecnotrónica) of Zbigniew Brzezinski, Member of the Club. In the new world order there is no middle class; only servants and rulers.
* A post-industrial society "zero-growth", which will end up with industrialisation and nuclear electricity production (except for the computers and services industries). Canadian and American industries that remain will be exported to countries such as Argentina, Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Nicaragua, etc., where there is cheap labour. It will happen, then one of the main objectives of NAFTA (North American free trade treaty).
* Zero growth is necessary to destroy the remnants of prosperity and dividing society into owners and slaves. When there is prosperity, there is progress, which makes it much harder to repression.
* May include that the depopulation of the cities according to the experiment carried out in Cambodia by Pol Pot. Pot genocidal plans were designed in the United States by one of the Sisters of Bilderberg, the Club of Rome.
* The death of four billion people, that Henry Kissinger (in another thread promised never to mention so despicable character, but it is impossible) and David Rockefeller called jokingly "useless stomachs" from war, hunger and disease. This will happen by the year 2050. "Of the two billion people remaining, 500 million belong to the Chinese and Japanese, races that will be saved through its characteristic ability to obey authority," is what says John Coleman in his book Conspirators ' Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300. Dr. Coleman is a retired intelligence officer who discovered a report commissioned by the Committee of 300 to Cyrus Vance "on how to conduct the genocide". According to Coleman, the report was titled "Global 2000 Report", "approved by President Carter in the United States Government and endorsed by Edwin Muskie, Secretary of State". According to this report, "the U.s. population will be reduced to 100 million by the year 2050".
* Artificial crisis to keep people in a perpetual state of physical, mental and emotional imbalance. Confundirán and desmoralizarán to the population to avoid to decide their own destiny, to the extent that people "have too many possibilities of choice, resulting in a large apathy on a massive scale".
* A tight control over education in order to destroy it. One of the reasons for the existence of the EU (and the future U.s. and Asian) is the control of education to "aborregar" to the people. Although us is incredible, these efforts are already providing "good fruits". The youth of today ignores completely history, individual freedoms and the meaning of the concept of freedom. The globalizing is much easier to combat some opponents without principles.
* The control of external and internal policy of the United States (which is already achieved for the Bush Administration), Canada (controlled by England) and Europe (via the European Union).
* A stronger UN turning, finally, in a world Government. One of the measures that will lead to this is the creation of direct tax on "global citizen".
* The expansion of NAFTA (North American free trade treaty) by throughout the Western hemisphere as a prelude to the creation of a United States similar to the European Union.
* An International Court with a single legal system.
If those objectives were to consolidate or in any case are viable, this would mean the destruction not only of capitalism, socialism or modernity as a whole, but all that at least ten thousand years ago, we have known as civilization and if my language handling is very poor, I believe that the alternative civilization is the barbarous.
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after I land my plane on your forehead.
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More Single Scale virus stuff!
Paula I recommend you to look my thread on The Global Bankruptcy (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=8028) or the blog that is linked there.
I think you´re going to like it... It´s a very interesting annalysis of where the world is going to.
It´s a google translation from a blog in Spanish... so follow the links, the reading will be easier.
Lots of stuff there, so take a look first to see if it´s interesting for you.
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Single Scale wrote;
after I land my plane on your forehead.
I do not understand, could you explain :?:
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Paula, this member is a virus, has been banned...
Follow his post if you want, specially the thread THIS IS SHIT. ;)
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somekindofsign , thanks for telling me, when I read that stirred the liver, and thanks for the link ;)
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Welcome ;)
You are going to find more of that senseless Single Scale garbage...