Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: Tereza on February 05, 2010, 04:18:32 PM
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I know there is an ET Forum, but it seems as if there isn't that much traffic going on and I really need to hear your opinion on this.
There is a video of Jermaine at their website in which he repeatedly says that Michael can't come back...and that he still should be here. I don't know what to make out of this...it's driving me crazy. Doesn't he know about it? What do you think?
It would be very rude to say such things especially about the "come back" if he knew, right?
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I agree that Michael should still be here and that he isn't coming back.
Now the thing I'm not 100% sure about is if he's not here and not coming back because he's deceased or because of some other reason - hiding out due to threats against his life/possibly suffered some sort of permanent damage at the hands of Dr. Murray?
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I agree that Michael should still be here and that he isn't coming back.
Now the thing I'm not 100% sure about is if he's not here and not coming back because he's deceased or because of some other reason - hiding out due to threats against his life/possibly suffered some sort of permanent damage at the hands of Dr. Murray?
The more I think about this, the more I am leaning towards the "Michael is alive but is very ill/in a coma" theory. Hence the reason why he can't come back. I read someone's post yesterday about the possibility of Michael being in a coma due to brain damage and it's stuck with me since. It won't go away.
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I agree that Michael should still be here and that he isn't coming back.
Now the thing I'm not 100% sure about is if he's not here and not coming back because he's deceased or because of some other reason - hiding out due to threats against his life/possibly suffered some sort of permanent damage at the hands of Dr. Murray?
The more I think about this, the more I am leaning towards the "Michael is alive but is very ill/in a coma" theory. Hence the reason why he can't come back. I read someone's post yesterday about the possibility of Michael being in a coma due to brain damage and it's stuck with me since. It won't go away.
Yeah I've read those theories too. The only thing I have with that is why then fake a death. What would be so wrong or bad for them to just come forward and say that. Why go to a whole lot of trouble to make it appear as if Michael has died. My husband was in a coma a few years back due to being in an accident. My mind almost went blank and I didn't have much time to think about anything besides being by my husbands bedside and being there to support my children. Thinking anything else besides that (particularly a hoax that is this elaborate) would be near impossible for any one that close to Michael.
Authorities at some stage of this hoax are involved whether we have proof or not. Michael was high profile and there was involvement from them at some level (coroner/lapd/dea etc.). They wouldn't assist in hoaxing a death simply because someone was in a coma. I think there's more to it.
However I could be wrong :lol:
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I agree that Michael should still be here and that he isn't coming back.
Now the thing I'm not 100% sure about is if he's not here and not coming back because he's deceased or because of some other reason - hiding out due to threats against his life/possibly suffered some sort of permanent damage at the hands of Dr. Murray?
The more I think about this, the more I am leaning towards the "Michael is alive but is very ill/in a coma" theory. Hence the reason why he can't come back. I read someone's post yesterday about the possibility of Michael being in a coma due to brain damage and it's stuck with me since. It won't go away.
you made a good point but I don't think it's brain damage but he is particle paralyse and can not performed the way he use because if it was more sever than that the Jackson would not stand for it but then again they are hiding something
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@ happy feet: I don't think you're wrong, that was exactly my thought too!
Why fake a death if somebody's in a coma?
Doesn't make sense at all.
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Don't think they would need to fake a death over a coma because he could wake up from that like nothing happened(at best) or not wake up(at worst), but comas are a waiting game...
However, I do believe they would fake his death if he was found to have suffered permanent brain damage.
Or his life was serious danger.
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This video is very difficult to watch.
Makes me feel so uncomfortable and loosing hope.
Jermaine is such a great actor if Michael is alive, but then I wonder why does he give so much interviews?? Every time he does this, he needs to cry and lie .... :(
Michael in a coma doesn't make sense to me at all, simply for the reason why fake his death and go through all of this.
Rollercoaster .... :x
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
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Yes, it's hard... :(
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He was just on -but said nothing new. He could not believe Murray visited the grave. And he wants Murray to do the Perp walk- just like Mike had to. He wants closure and so does the family. He cried and said nothing will bring MJ back. It's tough to watch - but JJ is an actor. :|
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See stuff like this makes believing hard sometimes...
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See stuff like this makes believing hard sometimes...
I totally agree. It seems like we are grasping at straws sometimes...more frequently lately. :?
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See stuff like this makes believing hard sometimes...
I totally agree. It seems like we are grasping at straws sometimes...more frequently lately. :?
And this video of Jermaine didn't help at all....
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Yeah :? I saw it on tv and Jermaine's anguish and grief seemed sincere. Not feeling good right now. It's been a long day. I think I'll call it until tomorrow.
Singing...
The sun will come out tomorrow. Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow, there will be sun...though it's kinda dreary, I'm gonna chill and wait for the sunshine. Better days ahead. At least I hope so.
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coma???
maybe he can't come back 'cause it's not SAFE!
But, of course Jermaine said ''can't return'' meaning ''is dead''.
This is a HOAX!
Geez, we need to remind you guys about the HOAX, every single day >_<
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Yeah :? I saw it on tv and Jermaine's anguish and grief seemed sincere. Not feeling good right now. It's been a long day. I think I'll call it until tomorrow.
Singing...
The sun will come out tomorrow. Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow, there will be sun...though it's kinda dreary, I'm gonna chill and wait for the sunshine. Better days ahead. At least I hope so.
he started getting teary eyed and i was like this has to be sincere... sometimes i dont know anymore.
I hope better days are ahead. I really do.
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I know it's hard to keep the faith when footage like this presents itself, but as MJalive999 said -- it's a hoax!! Upon watching the video of Jermaine, what struck me was that he looked "upset", his voice broke a couple of times and he dabbed at his eyes with a tissue, but there were NO ACTUAL TEARS.
For a hoax to be believable, some acting skills will come into play. Remember, Michael wants to show us how easily we can be manipulated by media offerings. Jermaine's "tearful", earnest statements play into that -- no more, no less.
Keep the faith, beLIEve and don't lose focus on Michael's larger goal.
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Reassurance from you guys always gets me back on track.
Thanks!
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you know what? Even if Muray is arrested, thrown in Jail and life goes on, don't give up. I am starting to believe MJ is dead, I have almost come to terms (not piece) with that. What keeps me coming back here and posting day after day, is the fact that this isn't cut and dry. This isn't a Dr. giving MJ an over dose...this is something much much deeper and sinister and NO ONE wants us to know. I'm not talking illuminati or crazy things like that. The fact of the matter is, since 2000 MJ has worn wigs, which means his LUPUS was flaring up, (when Lupus flairs up, comes out of remission, then baldness gets worse) which means he couldn't do 50 shows, let alone 10! AEG knew he was worth more dead than alive...Sony always wanted him gone, destitute, so he would have to sell his catalog...who knows where Thome Thome comes into play, but the man all but almost succeeded in auctioning off all of MJ's prized possessions before MJ had it stopped! If anyone has lost faith in the hoax, don't lose faith in finding the truth because I assure you, this runs much deeper than the obvious! I can't rest! I dream about MJ and think about him constantly...this has NEVER happened to me! (since high school when I had a major crush on him...LOL) He wants us to find out...
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I just want to know the truth for all of this! Thats why I try so hard not to give up. I believe there's so much more to this that we don't know that we will soon learn in time. I think that I just don't want to believe that Michael is dead. I don't want to. I think about him and this entire hoax constantly. So much doesn't sit right with me and I'm so antsy to know the truth. But if Murray is innocent, he'd go to jail for nothing basically.. Although everyone believes he killed Michael, we all know opposite.
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I know this is a crazy stupid question. But AEG knew he was worth more dead than alive? Ok my thing is the topic of the catalogue keeps coming up right? ok they would not have access to it anyway because it is in the estate correct? Just trying to understand. :(
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Jermaine has a role to play......don't forget Michael has many fans who believe he died on June 25th and they want justice. I would to if I felt he was "dead".
7 months is too long. The family "should" be in an uproar over the delay but they are not and haven't been. Jermaine "the spokesman" has to say something....especially with Murray in the spotlight these past days. He plays his role extremely well! (slips him a Grammy, lol)
If he doesn't have a tissue handy..the fans will accuse him of showing no emotion. Perhaps he has allergies? Keep the faith.....BeLIEve...
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Have you paid attention how woman asking question? "Does Michael have something to blame himself?"
It is present tense. Like MJ is living but because of what happened he is not coming back but should not blame himself........... ??
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He is now on Twitter if anyone wants to Tweet.
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you know what? Even if Muray is arrested, thrown in Jail and life goes on, don't give up. I am starting to believe MJ is dead, I have almost come to terms (not piece) with that. What keeps me coming back here and posting day after day, is the fact that this isn't cut and dry. This isn't a Dr. giving MJ an over dose...this is something much much deeper and sinister and NO ONE wants us to know. I'm not talking illuminati or crazy things like that. The fact of the matter is, since 2000 MJ has worn wigs, which means his LUPUS was flaring up, (when Lupus flairs up, comes out of remission, then baldness gets worse) which means he couldn't do 50 shows, let alone 10! AEG knew he was worth more dead than alive...Sony always wanted him gone, destitute, so he would have to sell his catalog...who knows where Thome Thome comes into play, but the man all but almost succeeded in auctioning off all of MJ's prized possessions before MJ had it stopped! If anyone has lost faith in the hoax, don't lose faith in finding the truth because I assure you, this runs much deeper than the obvious! I can't rest! I dream about MJ and think about him constantly...this has NEVER happened to me! (since high school when I had a major crush on him...LOL) He wants us to find out...
OMG.... I am so with you on this. It's a deep feeling and it's a presence that is urging us to push on. It's a hoax or like you said - there is something else they don't want us to know. I can't let go of it either and I have a very busy life. MJ is ever present on my mind and so is this whole thing.
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Jermaine just tweeted:
In talking about the Ustream
ALLJACK5ONS u guys on that Ustream. We gotta moderate it better, then I'll go on. I don't like reading conspiracy theories. not good.
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Jermaine just tweeted:
In talking about the Ustream
ALLJACK5ONS u guys on that Ustream. We gotta moderate it better, then I'll go on. I don't like reading conspiracy theories. not good.
He doesn't like reading conspiracy theories?!?! :?
Didn't he say in interviews that the US government did Michael all kinds of dirty?
Didn't Michael himself say that there was a conspiracy against him?
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Twitter update for those not following:
2/5/10 approximately 8:12PM PST
Jack Pack is what Jermaine is calling them now. :roll:
ALLJACK5ONS JACK-PACK is back summer 2010. Spread the word!!!!!!
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Twitter update for those not following:
2/5/10 approximately 8:12PM PST
Jack Pack is what Jermaine is calling them now. :roll:
ALLJACK5ONS JACK-PACK is back summer 2010. Spread the word!!!!!!
JACK-PACK?!?! Oh gosh! That's almost as bad as "Tito Time!" :lol:
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Twitter update for those not following:
2/5/10 approximately 8:12PM PST
Jack Pack is what Jermaine is calling them now. :roll:
ALLJACK5ONS JACK-PACK is back summer 2010. Spread the word!!!!!!
JACK-PACK?!?! Oh gosh! That's almost as bad as "Tito Time!" :lol:
Yah. Corny IMO but I didn't Tweet that. They only answer the "safe" Tweets.
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Ok who knows a physic????? Would someone just ask them if our suspicions are correct???? Would someone please do that???? It would sure make things alot easier!!! :|
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Jermaine just tweeted:
In talking about the Ustream
ALLJACK5ONS u guys on that Ustream. We gotta moderate it better, then I'll go on. I don't like reading conspiracy theories. not good.
I didn't like this :( I think he's talking about hoax believers :(
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Jermaine just tweeted:
In talking about the Ustream
ALLJACK5ONS u guys on that Ustream. We gotta moderate it better, then I'll go on. I don't like reading conspiracy theories. not good.
I didn't like this :( I think he's talking about hoax believers :(
Oh yes. Absolutely
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I still think MJ is alive regardless of this interview until I see some hard evidence to prove otherwise. I definitely think there is something bigger to this story that we don't know about. As far as MJ coming back into the spotlight I'm still up in the air about that one.
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Coma doesn't make sense to me either. Why wouldn't they tell the truth if he was in a coma? And we would have heard long time ago from a hospital employee about it.
And if this is a hoax, why did he give us all the clues? Just to make us know that he's alive? And he did it to run away from the public life? Is this it? If he wasn't going to come back why did he give us the clues? Look how we all feel right now after 7 long months!
And if he's going to come back, why do the Jacksons insist so much that he's really gone, not coming back etc? I'm so sorry but I'm feeling terrible right now and I'm crying so bad. I really don't know what to think no more. Would he make us wait this long? I mean, yes we learned a lot from this hoax but it's like a torture to me now. Watching all the arresting news about Murray and listening to JAcksons and other people talking about him like he's really gone. I don't know what and who to believe no more. Lots of theories, lots of informers and so many more on the other side who insist that he's gone! I'm so sorry if I upset any of you but this is how I feel right now :( :(
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I still think MJ is alive regardless of this interview until I see some hard evidence to prove otherwise. I definitely think there is something bigger to this story that we don't know about. As far as MJ coming back into the spotlight I'm still up in the air about that one.
I'm with you on that.
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I know this is a difficult time for all of us, but the reason I keep going on is because I ask myself this quesion..........
HOW FAR WOULD I GO TO PROTECT SOMEONE I LOVED SO MUCH, FROM DEATH OR MURDER??????????????????????????????
WHAT WOULD I DO IF MY SON WAS THREATENED TO BE HARMED????? WOULD I LIE TO PROTECT HIM, MY SON????????????????? THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS ..YES. I WOULD DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES, AND I CERTAINLY WOULD LIE OVER AND OVER AGAIN IF IT MEANT IT WAS THE ONLY WAY OF SAVING MY SON OR BROTHER. I WOULD DO ANYTHING I COULD TO PROTECT HIM FROM CERTAIN DEATH. AS A SINGLE MOTHER OF A 6 YO, I OFTEN SAY I WOULD TAKE A BULLET FOR HIM, OR I WOULD JUMP IN FRONT OF A CAR FOR HIM. AREN'T THE JACKSONS ALL FAMILY? AND AREN'T THEY ALL BUT MUM AND DAD ACTORS??????
WHEN THE DAY COMES THAT I SEE KATHERINE TALKING ABOUT MJ BEING DEAD, THEN I WILL ACCEPT THE FACT THAT HE IS. AND THAT DAY HAS AND WILL NEVER COME. KATHERINE CAN'T LIE LIKE THAT. SHE HAS KEPT TO HERSELF AND SO HAS REBBIE............REBBIE WASN'T EVEN AT THE PRIVATE FUNERAL. A FEW OF THE JACKSONS ARE NOT ABLE TO LIE IN PUBLIC AS YOU HAVE NOTICED. MAYBE THEY'RE NOT CAPABLE OF MAINTIAING A LIE AS WELL AS OTHERS....THAT'S WHY THEY ALWAYS CHOOSE "JERMAINE" TO SPEAK.....ISN'T THAT TELLING YOU SOMETHING.....
KEEP THE FAITH, EVEN ON THE BAD NEWS DAYS....IT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN.
JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN YOUR TIME OF DESPAIR.........
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hello everyone, newbie here and i agree with those who say the coma theory is not likely to be correct. apart from the logical arguments against it already raised, i also think of how he put Dileo and Branca in place in the nick of time. Dileo to represent his interests in the Sony ATV catalogue, and Branca for executing the will and managing the estate. even if the will is fake, for instance, it was necessary to have something so that the children could be taken care of - and his mother, too - while he is away and cannot do anything about providing for them.
a few times in this journey, i have almost given up believing. this usually happens when i see any of the family members crying. in fact, i have stopped clicking on links that tell me someone in the family is shedding tears. i assume it's true and i don't have to see it. it is something i don't understand, if this is a hoax. to me, the feelings are genuine. but then again, if Michael had to hoax his death, that in itself is a very sad thing, especially if the reason is that there are threats to his life. i recall Ms Katherine's expression at the funeral, and i think she would be as sad if her son was forced into hiding. it shouldn't have happened.
i could leave this journey and accept that Michael is truly gone, but it's hard to do without having all the questions answered. there are a lot of inconsistencies, slip-ups, and otherwise weird stuff out there which are factual instead of imagined. for one, i don't understand how his sister, Janet, could forget where she was when the news broke. Tyler Perry said she was filming with them in Atlanta, but Janet recently said she was at her home in NY. and then who could forget Ben Evanstad's "that day and the other d..."
my current worry is Murray and what happens to him. still, it's been a long 7 months and the authorities really have no choice but to let the case go ahead. what other excuse could they have for delaying when the world is getting really impatient? whether Michael intends to come back or not is another matter altogether, but i am watching what happens to Murray.
i'm sorry for the long post. got carried away...
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Hey did anyone notice that after they were talking about Michael taking any blame, Jermaine said Michael doesn't know, Present tense. Also Jermaine won't come right out and say Murray should be charged with murder. Man if it were my brother I would say murder in no uncertain terms, not what could it be.
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I've been thinking about how people are questioning the Jackson family's lack of emotion. For example, not showing how outraged they are for the delay in the investigation. We ask, if Michael was murdered wouldn't they be more aggressive in their search for justice? Well, we don't know what goes on behind the "scenes" and maybe the Jackson's have decided to stay low for people to take it seriously and avoid being ridiculed. Let's face it, a lot of people do make fun of them even MJ fans! 7 months is ridiculous but perhaps the prosecution wants to make sure they really have a strong case and we know how unbelivably weird the circumstances have been.
This is just another thought of mine. I truly want to belive that all these strange things that are going on and don't add up is because Michael is alive but what I really want is the truth and therefore I try to things in different perspectives. My mind is exhausted but I need to keep searching. I love Michael too much just to accept what is being told and I guess we all feel the same since we're all here ;)
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Ok! i honestly think that he seemed more angry than sad and grieving!
I did notice the "doesnt" he goes michael doesnt know that which seemed like a lie to me.. if he faked his death he would have to know what kind of case would be presented to make it believable and if he had really died why would he be doctor shopping like reports have been saying if he really thought it was ok and anyone could do it!
and i think he is angry which is understandable and might also make him sad because michael had to take a mugshot and he suffered police brutality and he was innocent... how could a person that authorities think is guilty be treated differently? Do you guys get what im saying? im having trouble explaining !
and his tweet is just weird! because if its not a death hoax then some one was conspiring against him! or things just wont make sense!
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TO 2GOOD2BTRUE
Amen to it,couldn't say it better ;)
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It sounds like you want Michael back, at what cost. His fans, his music, its all for love l.o.v.e. I say, if Michael Mikaeel is out there, let him live HIS life. If he is sick and/or ill give him your prayers for a speedy recovery, and if he is no longer among the living I hope he's welcome in Abrahams bosom.
Smile, pray, and be kind to all. God is the judge and we have work to do
If a mad dog is wild can he learn to love and show love