Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
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Catherine Bach's Husband Found Dead
Originally posted Apr 30th 2010 1:08 PM PDT by TMZ Staff
Peter Lopez -- the husband of Catherine Bach from "The Dukes of Hazzard" -- was just found dead in Los Angeles ... law enforcement sources tell TMZ.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/04/30/0430-peter-catherine-credit.jpg)
Paramedics responded to a report of a shooting at Lopez's home in Encino at around 11:30 AM. Cops tell TMZ his death is being investigated as an apparent suicide.
Bach married Lopez -- who was one of Michael Jackson's music attorneys -- in 1990. They have two children together.
Story developing...
http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/30/catherine ... d-suicide/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/30/catherine-bach-husband-peter-lopez-dead-suicide/)
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so sad
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how awful for her. I just don't understand suicide at all.
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how awful for her. I just don't understand suicide at all.
Please dont judge. Remember your audience.
Yes.. this is very, very sad. He leaves children behind, i believe.
Gosh.. and his connection to Michael! :shock:
We dont know the details yet... lets keep an open mind, know what im saying??
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this is so sad... how awfull for everyone
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sad he thought that death was easier than life - or maybe he felt he had no option
but a gun so quick
so painful
i hope no one witnessed it, but the person who found him
its so sad
hope he found peace
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how awful for her. I just don't understand suicide at all.
Please dont judge. Remember your audience.
Yes.. this is very, very sad. He leaves children behind, i believe.
Gosh.. and his connection to Michael! :shock:
We dont know the details yet... lets keep an open mind, know what im saying??
I think you misunderstood me. I didnt judge anybody. All i said was "i dont understand suicide" and I stand by that comment because I dont understand it all.
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@ejay. I know.. its just hard for me as i have personal experience. There are so many ways to look at it.. so many reasons, so many heartbreaks and questions.
Sorry.. i didnt mean to jump on you. I think its becoming an emotional day!
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I have a bit of an uncomfortable feeling with this death. Lopez was let go I think somewhere in Februari 2009, I can't find why.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbi ... 8215360920 (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Michael-Jackson-Death-Former-Lawyer-Peter-Lopez-Says-Toxicology-Report-Out-Within-Next-Week/Article/200908215360920)
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What if he knew something? :shock: This is really sad, I feel so bad for his family. :(
What if it wasn't suicide but was made to look like it was? I'm creeping myself out. But this is definitely tragic & I hope not connected to the bad guys if you know what I mean, I hope it doesn't have anything to do with MJ because if it did, I'd be freaking out :?
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I have a bit of an uncomfortable feeling with this death. Lopez was let go I think somewhere in Februari 2009, I can't find why.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbi ... 8215360920 (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Michael-Jackson-Death-Former-Lawyer-Peter-Lopez-Says-Toxicology-Report-Out-Within-Next-Week/Article/200908215360920)
Interesting story and another close connection to Michael. Maybe it wasn't suicide after all?
I'm saddened for all that know him personally especially his family. They'll be in my prayers.
Edit: I'm not too familiar with suicide cases but doesn't it seem odd that he was found in front of his house? don't those that commit suicide by shooting usually do it in solitude unless they are provoked by someone or something? I'm so sorry if I bring up wounds for anyone close to a situation like this but the place of suicide seemed rather strange.
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What if he knew something? :shock: This is really sad, I feel so bad for his family. :(
What if it wasn't suicide but was made to look like it was? I'm creeping myself out. But this is definitely tragic & I hope not connected to the bad guys if you know what I mean, I hope it doesn't have anything to do with MJ because if it did, I'd be freaking out :?
People seem to be dropping dead, though dont they??? Remember Jordy Chandlers father committed suicide in Nov 2009?
Now we have this lawyer guy who is dead by gunshot. It could be suicide because of personal or mental health reasons...
or maybe suicide because he knew something he couldnt handle.. or maybe he was afraid...
or maybe not suicide, but staged to seem that way....
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What if he knew something? :shock: This is really sad, I feel so bad for his family. :(
What if it wasn't suicide but was made to look like it was? I'm creeping myself out. But this is definitely tragic & I hope not connected to the bad guys if you know what I mean, I hope it doesn't have anything to do with MJ because if it did, I'd be freaking out :?
I don´t know this man but I was thinking a little in that way, but not exactly.
If he had problems with MJ and it´s a question of remorse (like Chandler).
What if MJ´s was murder and he knew something or was involved?
I´ll repeat, don´t Know this man, I´m just thinking... maybe nothing to do at all.
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Starting to search now... I´ve found this interesting article:
Jackson’s new music attorney, Peter Lopez, told me on Tuesday that about four of the original "Thriller" tracks are being remixed as "extras" for the CD package. Kanye West, Akon and will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas are supposed to be doing that work. The songs are "Billie Jean," "The Girl Is Mine," "Wanna Be Starting Something" and "Pretty Young Thing."
In addition, Lopez says that four tracks left off "Thriller" in 1983 will be included. Jackson’s longtime producer Bruce Swedien, who no longer works with the pop star, told me that one track he knows of is a killer. It’s called "Don’t Be Messin’ Around." Swedien doesn’t know any of the other tracks left off the album but said there may be some out there.
The rest of it is also interesting about MJ´s plans in 2007
Exclusive: Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' Plans (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302533,00.html)
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I don´t know this man but I was thinking a little in that way, but not exactly.
If he had problems with MJ and it´s a question of remorse (like Chandler).
What if MJ´s was murder and he knew something or was involved?
I´ll repeat, don´t Know this man, I´m just thinking... maybe nothing to do at all.
I just wanted to point out that you dont know that Chandlers father committed suicide because of "remorse".
Truth is we dont know why he committed suicide. Id heard he had a very painful and terminal illness. Its not uncommon for people who are suffering from such illnesses to kill themselves to end their physical pain.
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What if he knew something? :shock: This is really sad, I feel so bad for his family. :(
What if it wasn't suicide but was made to look like it was? I'm creeping myself out. But this is definitely tragic & I hope not connected to the bad guys if you know what I mean, I hope it doesn't have anything to do with MJ because if it did, I'd be freaking out :?
I don´t know this man but I was thinking a little in that way, but not exactly.
If he had problems with MJ and it´s a question of remorse (like Chandler).
What if MJ´s was murder and he knew something or was involved?
I´ll repeat, don´t Know this man, I´m just thinking... maybe nothing to do at all.
Yup, maybe he's another person who MJ trusted & he betrayed him. & he knows something the rest of the world doesn't in regards to the murder or plan to murder & he has incredible remorse & couldn't handle it. I'm not 100% sure but it is possible Jordan's dad committed suicide because of what he did to MJ. But we'll have to investigate this guy a little if we want to find out if he knew something or was one of the bad guys that MJ feared. BTW so he was new music attorney in 2007? Maybe he was working with MJ & people were after him or he was afraid they would come after him? Or maybe he was one of the bad ones? It's really sad to think about this but if we're ever going to find out the truth about whether or not MJ is alive we have to investigate all of the other people & events involved with him leading up to June 25th. My prayers are with Lopez's family though. It's so sad for them.
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I just wanted to point out that you dont know that Chandlers father committed suicide because of "remorse".
True Dancing, I don´t know, I said so because I was guessing on both but expressed badly ;)
You´re right.
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[color=#FF0000Just looking into his connection to Michael.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302533,00.html (http://http)
Some parts of this article I thought were noteworthy:
"Jackson is involved in putting together a 25th anniversary edition of his best-selling album, "Thriller."
(Hmmmmm...... Michael's "death" coincides w/ that.... coincidence?!)
"Jackson’s longtime producer Bruce Swedien, who no longer works with the pop star, told me that one track he knows of is a killer. It’s called "Don’t Be Messin’ Around."
(Hmmmmm...... "one track is a killer"???) !!
:~ JUSTICE ~:[/color]
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Wow! this story is pretty sad but weird at the same time.
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TMZ says police are investigating an "apparent suicide" :geek:
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@ejay. I know.. its just hard for me as i have personal experience. There are so many ways to look at it.. so many reasons, so many heartbreaks and questions.
Sorry.. i didnt mean to jump on you. I think its becoming an emotional day!
No worries at all. We're all friends here. I just wanted to be clear that I wasnt judging the situation..just that i dont understand it. Hope you feel better :D My bad day was yesterday.
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I find it interesting that they didn't mention his other clients. If he was skilled enough to become MJs attorney then surely he had other high-profile clients in the business. To state that ..."He was music attorney to many stars such as X, Y, Z and even Michael Jackson" would have made more sense to me.
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Mr Lopez also feels his former client's death could possibly have been avoided. "I think it's too early to say, we don't have all the facts but he should not be dead, that's pretty clear."Something went terribly wrong and we'll find something out about that very shortly." The lawyer paid tribute to the detectives conducting the investigation into the King of Pop's death, saying he realised they were in a very difficult situation and they were doing "terrific work" to make sure "the right results come out".
Me too.
I got stuck on his statement about the "right results to come out". Right for whom? If not the right results then will the public be presented with the "wrong results" as they close the case?
BTW - Suicide isn't always suicide. Sometimes it is really a homocide disguised as suicide.
I have a bit of an uncomfortable feeling with this death. Lopez was let go I think somewhere in Februari 2009, I can't find why.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbi ... 8215360920 (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Michael-Jackson-Death-Former-Lawyer-Peter-Lopez-Says-Toxicology-Report-Out-Within-Next-Week/Article/200908215360920)
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Mr Lopez also feels his former client's death could possibly have been avoided. "I think it's too early to say, we don't have all the facts but he should not be dead, that's pretty clear."Something went terribly wrong and we'll find something out about that very shortly." The lawyer paid tribute to the detectives conducting the investigation into the King of Pop's death, saying he realised they were in a very difficult situation and they were doing "terrific work" to make sure "the right results come out".
Me too.
I got stuck on his statement about the "right results to come out". Right for whom? If not the right results then will the public be presented with the "wrong results" as they close the case?
BTW - Suicide isn't always suicide. Sometimes it is really a homocide disguised as suicide.
Oh my gosh, I got that same feeling..I don't like this at all..
I have a bit of an uncomfortable feeling with this death. Lopez was let go I think somewhere in Februari 2009, I can't find why.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbi ... 8215360920 (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Michael-Jackson-Death-Former-Lawyer-Peter-Lopez-Says-Toxicology-Report-Out-Within-Next-Week/Article/200908215360920)
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Very very sad.... :cry:
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Lopez's death made sky news in england - because of the mj connection
is the media now feeding us with a conspiracy
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... QD9FDON9O0 (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gCI1j4anS9f8HyZrjMeupJh505mQD9FDON9O0)
Catherine Bach's husband dies in apparent suicide
By RAQUEL MARIA DILLON (AP) – 4 hours ago
LOS ANGELES — A successful entertainment attorney who was married to actress Catherine Bach was found dead in an apparent suicide Friday, coroners officials said.
Peter Lopez, 60, died of a gunshot wound at his home in the Encino Hills, coroner's office operations chief Craig Harvey said.
A neighbor reported hearing a shot and someone at the home found Lopez's body, coroners officials said.
Bach and her two daughters suffered a "tragic personal loss," said her publicist, Steve Rohr.
Bach played Daisy Duke in the 1980s TV series "The Dukes of Hazzard."
Lopez was Michael Jackson's music attorney for several years, according to Alfred Newman, a spokesman for the firm Lopez helped found, Kleinberg Lopez Lange Cuddy & Klein. He also represented The Eagles, Andrea Bocelli and Michael Buble.
"We are deeply shocked and saddened by the unexpected loss of our friend and partner," the firm said in a statement.
Lopez worked with singers, record producers and songwriters and was a co-producer of the Jennifer Lopez film "Selena," a biopic about the beloved Tejano singer who was killed by the president of her fan club.
Raymone Bain, Michael Jackson's former general manager, said she hired Peter Lopez in 2006 as Jackson's entertainment attorney when she was reorganizing the singer's business affairs.
"I'd known Peter for 20 years," she said. When she was searching for a new legal team she said another of her clients, R&B singer Babyface, recommended Lopez.
"I can't think of a nicer individual," she said. "He was a good guy. I'm just so shocked."
She said Lopez traveled with her and Jackson to London for the World Music Awards and spoke to the singer quite often.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger appointed Lopez to the California State Athletic Commission, which regulates boxing, and as the director of the California Exposition and State Fair Board.
Lopez attended UCLA Law School.
Associated Press Writer Anthony McCartney and Special Correspondent Linda Deutsch contributed to this report
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there isnt much about him on the internet - seems like a nice guy - shame
but why do the news reports say apparently a suicide?
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Coroner Craig Harvey
The same coroner as MJ. :| :| As always with Love xox
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Coroner Craig Harvey
The same coroner as MJ. :| :| As always with Love xox
well they died in the same neighbourhood
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He wasnt on mike's hit list
i think the connection - is just work nothing more
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Oh no I hope this is not a conspiracy....this is devastating
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this is so sad i can't imagine what his state of mind must have been like for him to resort to suicide :(
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there isnt much about him on the internet - seems like a nice guy - shame
but why do the news reports say apparently a suicide?
they write "apparently" because the investigation is not completed. It s always written that way in newspapers..."apparent suicide, apparent murder, apparent accident" and so on
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbi ... 8215360920 (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Michael-Jackson-Death-Former-Lawyer-Peter-Lopez-Says-Toxicology-Report-Out-Within-Next-Week/Article/200908215360920)
Its eerie when he talks about
Mr Lopez also feels the media frenzy surrounding the singer's death, as well as continuing questions over the paternity of his children, is irresponsible.
"I think it's very unfortunate these sorts of things get talked about," the lawyer said.
"The children are probably going to hear about these kind of scandalous things. They are bright, young, wonderful kids.
"It's very hurtful and harmful to have this sort of talk out there, I think it's a little irresponsible frankly."
I keep thinking it must be so sad for his kids if he really committed suicide or even worse if he was murdered but they try to blame him.
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Coroner Craig Harvey
The same coroner as MJ. :| :| As always with Love xox
well they died in the same neighbourhood
They did? Encino is the same neighborhood as Mike's rented mansion? Is this true?
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Hmm... maybe he didn't die but is in a witness protection program? Maybe there is a large investigation going on that we don't even realise? :?
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As soon as i saw this in the news, my brain went on to overload as to how this could or could not be related to the hoax, however i came to the conclusion that i strongly believe this man was under intense pressure from michael related things, maybe because he knew something big that certain other people wanted to know and because of this he may have had received some sort of threats which just pushed him over the limit.
I dont know to me this is good for the hoax, but this is terribly saddening news :(
Something about it is really quite erie.
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I agree with you, Hollie.. this is so sad, and he definitely had to feel pressured, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was threatened, and went insane, from it all... this is really heartbreaking. :cry:
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Apparent suicide, ... the police are well aware when someone is killed or commits suicide :geek:
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He wasnt on mike's hit list
i think the connection - is just work nothing more
He wasnt on Michaels hit list.. but he might have been on someone elses...
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Apparent suicide, ... the police are well aware when someone is killed or commits suicide :geek:
Police have to do an investigation first before facts can be established.
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I'm so afraid for some reason that this points more towards Michael being dead than alive. This is all so scary like a huge picture of crime that we are not seeing yet. God we are in for a longgggg summer of confusion it seems.
Nefari
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I have a bit of an uncomfortable feeling with this death. Lopez was let go I think somewhere in Februari 2009, I can't find why.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbi ... 8215360920 (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Michael-Jackson-Death-Former-Lawyer-Peter-Lopez-Says-Toxicology-Report-Out-Within-Next-Week/Article/200908215360920)
Me 2. it's weird... Makes me think of Evan Chandler's suicide 6 months ago (not that I care he is gone) on 11/05. It's both a 7-date. 04/30.
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Randy tweeted about the loss of Lopez. I'm not on twitter at the moment so I can't copy & paste it, but he says that he was a friend & his lawyer. He worked for his family for over 20 yrs. So obviously, he wasn't on the bad side feeling guilty. He was on MJ's side, so maybe he was being threatened by those who were against MJ. :? So sad.
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He worked for his family for over 20 yrs. So obviously, he wasn't on the bad side feeling guilty. He was on MJ's side, so maybe he was being threatened by those who were against MJ. :? So sad.
I hope not. :(
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I have a bit of an uncomfortable feeling with this death. Lopez was let go I think somewhere in Februari 2009, I can't find why.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbi ... 8215360920 (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Michael-Jackson-Death-Former-Lawyer-Peter-Lopez-Says-Toxicology-Report-Out-Within-Next-Week/Article/200908215360920)
Me 2. it's weird... Makes me think of Evan Chandler's suicide 6 months ago (not that I care he is gone) on 11/05. It's both a 7-date. 04/30.
Jackson Death Mystery 'Will Be Solved Soon'
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The mysterious circumstances surrounding Michael Jackson's death should be cleared up very soon, his former lawyer has told Sky News.
Peter Lopez said he expected the toxicology report to be released in the near future.
The report has been completed but will not be made public while a police investigation is still ongoing.
Mr Lopez told Sky News: "We should hear within the next week. I believe the LAPD are doing a very thorough investigation.
"It's been seven weeks since Michael died, it was announced the reports would be out in five to six weeks, so we are a couple of weeks beyond that which is an indication of the professionalism of the LAPD, making sure they get it right."
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Mr Lopez also feels his former client's death could possibly have been avoided.
"I think it's too early to say, we don't have all the facts but he should not be dead, that's pretty clear.
"Something went terribly wrong and we'll find something out about that very shortly."
The lawyer paid tribute to the detectives conducting the investigation into the King of Pop's death, saying he realised they were in a very difficult situation and they were doing "terrific work" to make sure "the right results come out".
DEA agents searched a pharmacy in Las Vegas earlier this week to find prescription documents for Jackson from his former doctor Conrad Murray.
Jackson's former lawyer, Peter Lopez
They have also searched the doctor's premises, and while he is not an official suspect, Dr Murray is the subject of a manslaughter investigation.
Mr Lopez also feels the media frenzy surrounding the singer's death, as well as continuing questions over the paternity of his children, is irresponsible.
"I think it's very unfortunate these sorts of things get talked about," the lawyer said.
"The children are probably going to hear about these kind of scandalous things. They are bright, young, wonderful kids.
"It's very hurtful and harmful to have this sort of talk out there, I think it's a little irresponsible frankly."
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what a good find
this guy seems totally decent
pity mike did not have him on his team - he would be here today.
if you havent worked for mike for 20 years or so dont you think it is strange that you give an opinion?
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... he realised they were in a very difficult situation and they were doing "terrific work" to make sure "the right results come out".
Hmm... :?
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He represented Michael Buble and the Eagles too - it may have nothing whatsoever to do with MJ.
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He represented Michael Buble and the Eagles too - it may have nothing whatsoever to do with MJ.
Nah.. this has something to do with Michael Jackson. Lopez was close to the truth one way or another.
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He represented Michael Buble and the Eagles too - it may have nothing whatsoever to do with MJ.
Nah.. this has something to do with Michael Jackson. Lopez was close to the truth one way or another.
Which truth? Hoax or Murder? You wouldn't commit suicide over a hoax but most clues point to a hoax for me.
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If Michael talked to anyone, maybe they know some truth of
what happened and maybe they threatened to tell.
Skip Miller also died of apparent heart attack at 62. Was he
a family friend? He just had said some very positive things
about Michael after he passed, then 3 months later, he
dead. He was former Motown President.
It was said in some articles, some friends were stunned at
his passing.
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what a good find
this guy seems totally decent
pity mike did not have him on his team - he would be here today.
if you havent worked for mike for 20 years or so dont you think it is strange that you give an opinion?
Who hasn't worked for mj for 20 years? Lopez? He was there at least up until 2008. He refinanced the sony/atv catalogue. Raymone Bain brought him in around 2006 i think. If you're talking about someone who hasn't worked for MJ in 20 yrs and then suddenly found employment with him in 2009 that would be Frank Dileo. Hmmm.
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what a good find
this guy seems totally decent
pity mike did not have him on his team - he would be here today.
if you havent worked for mike for 20 years or so dont you think it is strange that you give an opinion?
Who hasn't worked for mj for 20 years? Lopez? He was there at least up until 2008. He refinanced the sony/atv catalogue. Raymone Bain brought him in around 2006 i think. If you're talking about someone who hasn't worked for MJ in 20 yrs and then suddenly found employment with him in 2009 that would be Frank Dileo. Hmmm.
I think it's very possible that his death could be related to MJ somehow, hoax or murder. If it is a hoax & the people who were after MJ were suspicious & think this guy knew something, they could have threatened him or gone after him. If MJ was murdered, which I'm not believing right now, this guy could have been involved or knew something about who did it & was either threatened to keep quiet or he felt guilty. Or he could have just been threatened or the bad guys came after him because he helped refinance the catalog & helped with the Thriller 25 album & he was working for MJ at least up until 2008. There's definitely something fishy there. All I know is Randy tweeted that he was saddened by the loss of Lopez & that he was a friend & his attorney for years. So he must have been on the good side aka MJ's side.
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Could this questionable suicide be a method used by some bad people to flush MJ out and force his hand to reveal himself? .
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Could this questionable suicide be a method used by some bad people to flush MJ out and force his hand to reveal himself? .
Could be.
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It just reminds me of my fav gangster movies. Bad people cannot directly reach who they want so they start bumping off people around the person in order to get to him. In the movies, it's a mind game to see if they can cause their true target to surrender and give in to their demands out of guilt that innocent people died because of him.
Could this questionable suicide be a method used by some bad people to flush MJ out and force his hand to reveal himself? .
Could be.
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I know this will make for unpopular reading but........It's not a hoax! Wakey Wakey.
What is going on is real. Think about it. A man has been charged with manslaughter, that means the said person (mj) died. You think the courts and judges would waste their time with this show? You think if MJ was in protection they would even go down this route....hauling the jacksons into court etc? Come on. How long do you need to wait to know this. The next court hearing WILL decide Murray's trial date and he WILL be tried for manslaughter. Yes, because MJ did die sadly. Randy once tweeted how annoyed he was that nobody from AEG came to the courts, 'Sitting in court & I'm sad. Those profiting most from my bro’s death: AEG, Randy Phillips, Kenny Ortega, Estate Executors r nowhere in sight'Do you honestly think he would tweet that if every word was not true - he was pissed about that. Rightly so.
To think this is still a hoax is to completely ignore what is going on. There is stuff going on here that needs looking at properly.
If you want the truth, don't go the wrong way.
Quote Randy;
Ok Can’t say 2much. WHY WHY WHY r LAPD & DA ignoring evidence that goes beyond Dr. Murray? Wondering who they r protecting. Hmmm. Talk to me
My brother doesn’t have a voice anymore…. We must fight & speak for him.
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He represented Michael Buble and the Eagles too - it may have nothing whatsoever to do with MJ.
I agree. As sad as this is to hear, he may have just been MJ's attorney at one point and this has nothing to do with the hoax. Just a coincidence.
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Here is something I just came across that may provide a timeline of when Lopez stopped working for Michael...this comes from a British blog site, written April 15, 2009 in regard to background of the This Is It O2 Press Conference:
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In the world of Michael Jackson, onlookers must often wait for the dust to settle before events become clear. The star is eratic, his plans are rarely concrete and his motivation is often beyond comprehension.
Events surrounding Jackson's press conference last month were typically baffling, but the Newshound is now able to shed some light on the confusion that surrounded the announcement of his London concerts.
In February the Newshound became the first journalist to break news of Michael Jackson's summer residency. Shortly afterwards, the Newshound received information from Sony and O2 sources that a press conference would take place on Thursday 26th February.
The date came and went and the Newshound's sources were bemused. At the time, it was speculated that company heads could have leaked the wrong date as a diversionary tactic.
The Newshound can now reveal that this was not the case - Jackson really was due to announce the concerts on Thursday 26th February.
Sources involved in organising funding and sponsorship for the concerts say the star is a 'loose cannon' who simply failed to show up in London at the appointed time.
Jackson fired lawyer Peter Lopez early in the week that the announcement had been scheduled, leaving organisers unable to contact him and forcing them to scrap their plans.
When concert promoters eventually contacted Jackson through his manager, Dr Tohme Tohme of Colony Capital, the press conference was rescheduled for the following week.
When anxious organisers received word that Jackson had boarded his flight to London on Tuesday 3rd March, a source contacted the Newshound to leak the star's arrival time and accommodation details. Organisers also ensured that news was leaked to Jackson's many fansites.
Those responsible claimed to be leaking the information on Jackson's behalf, saying that the star wanted his fans to greet him upon his arrival.
This later proved untrue - Jackson hid behind an umbrella at the airport and entered his hotel through a back door, shunning the fans who organisers had urged to wait outside the hotel all afternoon.
The true reason for the leak was that the previous week's event had served as a stark reminder to concert organisers that Jackson is entirely unreliable.
In an act of desperation, information was leaked to the Newshound and to the fan community in the hope that the mainstream press would pick up on it. If the press caught Jackson sneaking into the country, thought the organisers, there was no way he could pull out of the press conference and sneak back out again.
It was The Sun who delivered the golden egg, capturing long lens photographs of Jackson exiting his private jet at Mohammed Al Fayed's private airstrip.
The Newshound can today reveal that despite having been captured on camera arriving in London, Jackson still attempted to pull out of his press conference.
The Newshound was issued accreditation for the press conference and so was stuck in the holding pen, otherwise known as the Indigo2 nightclub inside the O2 complex, as a drama secretly unfolded at Jackson's hotel.
As the appointed time of 4pm drew closer, press and photographers grew ever more anxious: Why were they not being allowed into the foyer for the announcement? Annoyed snappers and reporters began gathering at the nightclub doors, much to the chagrin of PR staff.
"Nothing will be happening for at least twenty minutes," press were told, "so you may as well sit down." Twenty minutes soon became thirty, then forty. Forty minutes became an hour.
Press were eventually led into the arena at around 4.30pm, after relieved PR staff received confirmation that Jackson had finally left his hotel. The star would later appear onstage at 5.30pm, an hour and a half late.
The official reason for Jackson's lateness was that he had become stuck in traffic en route to the O2 complex.
This story was later contradicted by reports that before Jackson took the stage for his announcement, he became the first person to walk around the O2's new exhibition, the 'British Music Experience'.
This was self-serving spin designed to accomplish two goals. The first was to give the impression that Jackson had been at the O2 centre all along, distracting press from the real reason for his lateness, and the second was to shamelessly promote the complex's latest attraction.
In fact, both stories are easily disproved.
When Jackson left his hotel for the press conference he was, as usual, accosted by a mob of fans and photographers.
Photographers snapped the star leaving his hotel at approximately 4.15pm - a quarter of an hour after he was supposed to have taken the stage. He wasn't stuck in traffic and he wasn't walking around an exhibition - he hadn't even left his hotel.
The Newshound can exclusively reveal that Jackson had barricaded himself in his hotel room and spent several hours refusing to attend the press conference. Minders were forced to stand in the hotel corridor and plead with him through the door to his room. By the time he was persuaded to leave, he was already significantly late for the announcement. Meanwhile, at the O2, PR staff were becoming concerned and irritable.
Once at the O2 Jackson remained reluctant to take the stage. After Dermot O'Leary introduced the star, it was several minutes before he eventually stepped through the curtains. Footage of the press conference on the star's official website was later edited to give the impression that he had sauntered immediately onstage.
When Jackson did take the stage he abandoned his teleprompter and gave a disjointed speech. Rather than the upbeat concert announcement fans had expected, they were instead subjected to a rambling retirement announcement in which Jackson sounded audibly irritated by the fact that he was to perform again, sternly informing the audience, "This is the final curtain call, OK?"
Caitlin Moran later wrote of the event, "He seems borderline tetchy about being here at all... It sounds like a weary warning. I will not be performing for you now, is the subtext. I will give you nothing else... After announcing that that the concerts will be in July, and that he loves us all so, Jackson is gone - giving four minutes to people who have been waiting five hours, and 12 years, and a lifetime."
After Jackson left the stage one young female follower was carried from the building, sobbing that Jackson had sounded angry with his fans.
Reports suggested that Jackson later returned to his hotel drunk and complaining loudly about the prospect of his live comeback.
Since Jackson's announcement British tabloids have been awash with stories surrounding the upcoming concerts. These have included stories about four separate properties Jackson will supposedly live in (Rod Stewart's Essex mansion, a house on the Thames so he can travel to the concerts by boat, a castle built atop a network of haunted caves and a private house in suburban East London), stories about Jackson hiring David Copperfield to help orchestrate magic tricks, and suggestions that Jackson will enter the stage astride an elephant.
The Newshound can reveal that most, if not all of these stories, are false - but they are not the concoctions of tabloid reporters. The stories are in fact being systematically planted on an almost daily basis by concert promoters AEG Live, who have developed an obsession with keeping the concerts in the headlines.
The reason? Although the official line is that all of the concerts are sold out, the company is facing a ticketing crisis.
Just days after the concerts were announced, 'The Times' revealed that AEG Live had secretly given up to 1000 tickets per concert to commercialised touting company Viagogo. The tickets would be sold at inflated prices on the condition that both companies shared the profits.
At the time a spokesperson defended the move, saying, "To suggest that there won't be a premium market is unrealistic." Indeed. But isn't that why several blocks of seats at each concert were reserved for £800-a-ticket premium packages?
After reserving several blocks per show for official premium packages and donating up to a further 1000 tickets per show to Viagogo, almost 10% of all seats for the residency were being sold for hugely inflated prices. That is without taking into account the number of business-minded buyers who snaffled tickets in the official sales with the specific intention of re-selling them for several times their face value on Ebay.
Consequently, although the shows are officially billed as 'sold out', somewhere in the region of 50,000-100,000 tickets currently remain onsale in the form of VIP packages on Ticketmaster, overpriced tickets on Seatwave and Viagogo and countless tickets being touted on Ebay.
AEG now has a dilemma on its hands. The company has fallen victim to its own greed. Bosses accurately predicted that the shows would be immensely popular and would sell out, leaving a huge excess demand. What they over-estimated, however, was the number of people who could actually afford to pay hundreds of pounds for a concert ticket.
As Britain slips deeper into recession, the number of punters with hundreds or, in many cases, thousands of pounds to spare for one pair of Michael Jackson tickets is dwindling and the Newshound is skeptical as to whether, even at the height of the economic boom, there were ever 50,000 people who would be willing to splash that much cash on a night out.
AEG's reaction has been to release a steady stream of false stories to the popular press in an attempt to keep the concerts on everybody's lips but, publicity or no publicity, the public simply cannot afford the extortionate Viagogo prices.
If sales of premium tickets remain slow, organisers face the prospect of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of empty seats at each of the 50 concerts. Worse still, some of the empty seats will be directly in front of the stage. Ironically, had the seats been included in the general sale they would have sold out immediately. As it stands, inflating the ticket prices has actually cost company bosses significant profits - not exactly the desired effect.
A final note from the Newshound on Jackson's father, who has recently hit headlines fo attempting to stage a coup and oust his son's current management. Reports suggest that Joseph Jackson emailed media outlets and fansites two weeks ago claiming he had assumed control of his son's affairs.
The 79 year old was reportedly hoping to cut himself in on Jackson's 50 nights in London and convince the star to piggyback a Jacksons reunion tour on his own solo success.
The debacle led to the publication of a strange article by Celebrity Access wich seemed to quote Frank Dileo claiming to be Jackson's manager. This is not the case. Jackson is still managed by Dr Tohme Tohme and Colony Capital, but that Dileo is speaking on Jackson's behalf is an interesting development. The Newshound revealed in April of last year that Dileo was becoming a more regular fixture in Jackson's camp.
The Newshound can reveal that Joseph Jackson has been trying to worm his way back into his son's affairs ever since he learnt that the O2 deal was being finalised. Jackson was sticking his nose in so regularly that staff involved in fundraising for the Jackson concerts believed he was integral to the deal. Jackson told them he was also arranging a Jacksons reunion concert to compliment the residency. Rumour was that a Jacksons concert at Wembley Stadium would be announced in early April, but evidently that did not happen.
The Newshound wonders, though, whether there may be some truth to the rumour. The Jacksons were involved in negotiations for a Wembley Stadium concert in Summer 2007 but the deal was never finalised. Reminiscent indeed of the O2 residency, which was first discussed over 18 months before it finally came to fruition.
As is always the case where Michael Jackson is concerned, only time will tell.
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Here is another mention of Peter Lopez from the same British blog above....I'll warn you in advance...this blog is NOT at all kind to Michael:
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Sad but predictable news has reached the Newshound that Michael Jackson's O2 negotiations have faltered for a third time.
Selected staff at Sony BMG's London HQ had been briefed that Jackson would announce details of his O2 residency on Thursday morning.
Meanwhile, staff at the O2 arena were told over a week ago that the residency would be announced in a press conference on either Wednesday or Thursday of this week.
By midday on Thursday there was confusion at Sony HQ as to why the announcement had not been made. However, staff were reassured that the announcement would be made by the end of the day.
The announcement never came.
The Newshound is now hearing whispers that Jackson has fired Peter Lopez, the star's music lawyer of several years. Lopez had been representing Jackson in negotiations surrounding the residency since they began in 2007.
Rumours of the lawyer's dismissal are as yet unconfirmed and the reasons behind the alleged dismissal remain unclear.
The Newshound, however, will be so bold as to venture that should these rumours prove true, there is just one reason behind the decision.
Jackson is extremely work shy and has been since the late ninties. In 1999 the star signed contracts to perform two concerts at the turn of the millennium. However, Jackson failed to perform those concerts and never offered a legitimate reason as to why.
Jackson approached his next studio album, Invincible, so lazily that Sony rejected it in its original state. Insiders claim that Jackson was so addicted to alcohol and painkillers that friends and colleagues feared for his life. The star reportedly had no interest in the project, earning most of his songwriting credits by changing occasional words in other people's compositions.
Prior to the album's release, Jackson performed two largely mimed concerts in New York, infuriating producer David Gest by showing up high on painkillers.
The star went on to record one music video for Invincible but shunned all subsequent promotion, branding his record company 'racist'.
Later, in a 2003 television special, the star declared that he hated touring.
In late 2003 Jackson struck a peace deal with Sony, agreeing to embark on a short European tour to promote his 'Number Ones' compilation album. However, it is worth noting that although Jackson technically agreed to the tour, he had already got wind of an impending child abuse allegation and hired Mark Geragos as his defence lawyer. As such, it could be the case that Jackson knew he would never have to fulfill that particular obligation.
Since his child molestation trial Jackson has promised charity singles, a music video and an album - and, more recently, claimed to be 'finalising' TV specials and a world tour. To date none of these projects, some of which date back to 2005, have ever seen the light of day.
No evidence exists to suggest that the star has completed any work on his new record apart from a lacklustre duet with Akon, featuring a vocal so half-hearted that Jackson could have recorded it in under an hour.
Jackson displayed further laziness early last year when he reneged on a deal with Sony to promote 'Thriller 25' at the Grammy Awards. The star was due to perform a live medley and then complete a backstage interview for the promotional podcast series known as the 'Thrillercasts'.
Jackson angered Sony by failing to complete either activity and enraged Grammy organisers to such an extent that they cancelled an 'all-star salute to the King of Pop', despite having already advertised it on national television.
Sony sources also told the Newshound in late 2007 that Jackson had recently backed out of an X Factor appearance, claiming he had done so because the press had 'ruined the surprise'.
During the last 18 months Jackson has become involved in serious discussions with AEG Live - promoters for the O2 arena - on three separate occasions; once in late 2007, once in early 2008 and once during the last fortnight.
It seems that firing Peter Lopez could be Jackson's way of backing out for a third time, effectively killing the negotiations by removing his only point of contact. This would be typical of Jackson's cowardly approach to dealing with problems, which tends to consist of either running away and leaving somebody else to clear up his mess or trying to place the blame on a third party. Or, quite often, both.
However, speculation is rife that the O2 has already booked dates for Jackson's residency, with no concerts currently being marketed between July 6th and August 5th. Rumour also suggests that some papers could already have been signed, which - if true - could leave Jackson fighting one of the most intense legal battles of his career.
The future of Jackson's O2 residency is unclear. The only certainty is that Sony employees and O2 employees were expecting an announcement on Wednesday or Thursday. That announcement never came. At the same time, the steady stream of leaked information has once again dried up, suggesting that negotiations have ceased.
More as and if the Newshound hears it.
Thursday, 26 February 2009
Jackson announcement this morning?
Sony sources are telling the Newshound that today (Thursday 26th February), at 9am GMT, an announcement regarding Michael Jackson's O2 residency will be made via his official Sony website.
The Newshound must stress, though, that this may be misinformation.
For example, a year ago when rumours of an O2 residency were circulating, a high up Sony source told various fansites that the concerts were to go ahead. Plainly, the shows did not go ahead. This is just one of many instances of misinformation about Michael Jackson being distributed by authoritative sources.
In the world of Michael Jackson nothing is concrete until it is officially announced. Sometimes the star changes his mind on a whim. On other occasions people act beyond their briefs and leak information before it has been confirmed. Sometimes false information is intentionally leaked with the intent of distracting the press and public from ongoing negotiations. Other times high-ups float false information as part of a mole hunt - the aim is to discover and plug the leak.
The Newshound has decided to publish this breaking news as it was delivered directly by numerous Sony sources. However, there is every chance that for one of the aforementioned reasons, the announcement will not be made.
Fingers crossed, however.
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The main thing that makes me wonder here is the title of the article.
Who is Catherine Bach?
And why is it important that her husband has (been) found dead?
You would expect this title from a local newspaper where everybody is familiar with Catherine Bach as a neighbour and reads decedent's ads first.
You would not expect this title from a tabloid.
Certainly not when it comes to someone having a connection to Michael Jackson.
And most certainly not when it comes to TMZ exploiting every bit of MJ.
Why was it not "Michael Jackson's lawyer found dead"?
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Regarding the article posted by heisinme09 i really think they are on to something there about his conference appearance. Something was not right. He was a little brusk and his conversation was pointed. Did you ever see the way he got out of the tour bus? Randy was on the left in sunglasses and they did not once look at each other. Randy also was pointing where MJ should go - like an order - and he swept MJ along with his other arm. I'll try and find the footage. The body language tells you everything. All was not well, and MJ was pissed at something - this came through in his conference speech. I think at the end he made a black power salute also, they always did try to own him...
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if this was a game of chess what piece would lopez be?
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The main thing that makes me wonder here is the title of the article.
Who is Catherine Bach?
And why is it important that her husband has (been) found dead?
You would expect this title from a local newspaper where everybody is familiar with Catherine Bach as a neighbour and reads decedent's ads first.
You would not expect this title from a tabloid.
Certainly not when it comes to someone having a connection to Michael Jackson.
And most certainly not when it comes to TMZ exploiting every bit of MJ.
Why was it not "Michael Jackson's lawyer found dead"?
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"MJ's Attorney Found Dead" I Agree would be a better Headline...
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Heisinme09 - Thank You so much for finding and posting these articles about what really went on with the 02 Announcement. I find this believable, (although disturbing) it seems Michael Really was Not as enthusiastic about this project as we are being led to believe. It even seems he was so uncomfortable that it could have led to a nervous breakdown for him. He was definitely making the Money Men VERY Nervous, which obviously was Very dangerous for Him. This article just Clarifys everything that led up to MJ's demise. I think this article deserves it's own seperate Post since the 02 is such a contentious subject.
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Chess? Lopez would be the 1 chess piece left on the board protecting the King.
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if this was a game of chess what piece would lopez be?
that is an odd question......why do you ask that? what do YOU think he should be?
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Also, maybe this was mentioned before but doesnt anyone find it ODD that this guy shot himself OUTSIDE his house?
People who commit suicide dont usually do it in front of everyone... I didnt think this death was fishy, but I do now.
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Also, maybe this was mentioned before but doesnt anyone find it ODD that this guy shot himself OUTSIDE his house?
People who commit suicide dont usually do it in front of everyone... I didnt think this death was fishy, but I do now.
hm, yeah it is odd.
usually ( great choice of word, I know) a person who wants to commit suicide wants to be alone, maybe locked in a room or something...but not in the garden...
Oh boy...another odd "death" to investigate??
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I also posted this on the other thread about the reasons of this death, but I see you´re all on this so I wanted to post it here again.
Minamai found this and posted it on the spanish forum. Here you have it translated:
Another mysterious death about Michael Jackson (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.primerahora.com%2Fotra_muerte_misteriosa_alrededor_de_michael_jackson-384723.html&sl=es&tl=en)
The King of Pop felt his lawyer Peter Lopez as a friend with whom she had a close relationship over 20 years. (Supplied)
Monday, May 3, 2010
Melba Brugueras / Primera Hora
Peter Lee, a close friend and personal lawyer of the star Michael Jackson and the Jackson family for more than 20 years, allegedly committed suicide last Friday near his luxury mansion in Encino, California, where the family of the late King of Pop also has a complex.
The problem is that people who belong to the inner circle of the Jackson family and the Lopez family still can not believe that the attorney's death was a suicide.
Peter Lee, one of the most sought after lawyers in the entertainment industry in the United States and Latin America, reportedly was close to granting a very revealing interview about the killing of the King of Pop
Moreover, there are inconsistencies in the versions that have been offered on the death of the lawyer, who was the husband of the star of Dukes of Hazzard Catherine Bach, who bore him two girls.
Some reports indicate that Lopez was found dead by police in Los Angeles in a garden in front of his mansion. Other reports state that was in a garden behind the mansion and others that it was within his residence.
And there are other questions about the number of shots heard by neighbors of the lawyer.
another suicide in relation to Jackson
[youtube:19e16apd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz0L0tzfC5E&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:19e16apd]
If Lopez's death was self-inflicted, then this would be the second suicide that occurs around the King of Pop since his death. The first was that of Evan Chandler, a man who accused Jackson of molesting her son Jordie Chandler in 1993. In fact, this incident caused the cancellation of the concert that the star was scheduled on the island as part of his Dangerous world tour.
Incredulous Maritza Casiano
Whatever the real version of the facts surrounding the mysterious death of Jackson attorney, people who knew Lopez or worked with him are convinced that the lawyer would never have thought about suicide.
"If you had told me that Peter Lee contemplated suicide, had said that it was crazy," he said in an interview with Primera Hora Maritza Casiano producer who, as the producer Angelo Medina, Lopez knew from the singer's glory days Mexican Emmanuel. Casiano also worked with Peter Lopez several issues related to Juan Luis Guerra and Caribbean Records. Throughout his career, the lawyer represented Laura Bozzo, Maná, Whitney Houston, Jennifer Lopez, Andrea Bocelli, Vanilla Ice, The Eagles and Wilson Phillips, among many other artists.
"The last time I saw Peter was in 2006, he went to my office. I remember that day I was well excited that Michael (Jackson) had asked him to take charge of his comeback and was his legal business manager. He also represented Michael in the dispute with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Do not see the sense in all this. Peter was a man secure. I do not believe that he committed suicide, "said Casiano.
Another person who was close to the attorney of the King of Pop was the celebrity commentator Javier Ceriani.
"It was my personal friend for over six years. Peter told me much about his relationship with Michael (Jackson) and the trust it had for him. Michael told me that it was difficult to trust people, but what struck me most was when one day I said to Michael you were giving a lethal injection. That told me a month before Michael died, "Ceriani told to Primera Hora.
"After Michael died, he told me that the world had to know the truth and he always told Michael I had to make a will but that he was annoyed and told him not to talk about it because it was a bad karma. It was as if he knew about some loose ends in the death of Michael "concluded Ceriani.
All this sounds really bad!
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Weird, But Neighbors to Gunshot Heard. Michael Lopez I represents dispute inthe Sony and Tommy Mottola, the man again, "Michael Did not trust the people and said They Were Giving to" lethal injection ". I Was About to Give to Revealing interview, What Would say? :geek:
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Lopez shot himself on the viewing platform in his back garden overlooking the valley.
Ed Winter comments.
http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 2386926001 (http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid11892230001?bctid=82386926001)
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Also, maybe this was mentioned before but doesnt anyone find it ODD that this guy shot himself OUTSIDE his house?
People who commit suicide dont usually do it in front of everyone... I didnt think this death was fishy, but I do now.
That is exactly why my alarm bells rang!
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I'll just say this....even if forensic evidence points to a suicide....I'll never forget an episode of "Medium" that I saw where people were being FORCED to commit suicide by someone else holding a gun on them....it was a chilling episode....this could happen....especially if someone's children were threatened.
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When I inform TMZ about the supposed note of suicide left by Lopez, there is a link in the news that was leading to the definition of court and then it was eliminated, I suppose that they did it with some intention, I imprimi but do not guard, :oops: here this what he says
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9406 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9406)
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Friday May 7,2010
Actress CATHERINE BACH joined hundreds of mourners to bid farewell to her late husband PETER LOPEZ as he was laid to rest on Thursday (06May10).
The Dukes of Hazzard star was left devastated when music attorney Lopez, who spent seven years working for Michael Jackson, was found dead outside the couple's California home last month (Apr10) after paramedics responded to a report of a shooting.
Cops are still investigating the circumstances of Lopez's death.
Bach stood beside the couple's daughters, 14-year-old Sophia and 11-year-old Lauren, as Lopez, who she was married to for 20 years, was laid to rest at a private ceremony in Santa Monica.
The actress was comforted by the priest as Lopez's coffin was taken from the church.
Olympian Bruce Jenner and his wife Kris also attended the service to pay their respects.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/173819/Bach-leads-mourners-at-Lopez-s-funeral
lots of pixhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz ... Lopez.html (http://pixhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1274127/Catherine-Bach-leads-mourners-funeral-lawyer-husband-Peter-Lopez.html)
you can see the sadness - even more reason why mikes funeral seems strange
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video link
not foul play - one shot
other pp in the house
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 ... devastated (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/04/exclusive-friends-and-family-catherine-bachs-husband-are-shocked-and-devastated)