Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: chappie on June 09, 2010, 05:00:22 AM
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[youtube:1y6j3fnb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA[/youtube:1y6j3fnb]
Nice new drill!
Chappie
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This video is very disturbing and full of symbols ... :?
(http://i45.tinypic.com/s3ork7.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/ygi1s.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/21m5ch2.jpg)
Just some examples......
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This is fu$#ing disturbing as hell
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Yes, my friend who is a non-believer first made me become aware about these symbols and I have to say, very weird!
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...ugh.
Very disturbing indeed.
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Now check this out
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6086/sinttulopv.png) (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/sinttulopv.png/)
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I really felt like I was watching a Madonna vid.
The vid isnt disturbing to me.....I guess Im used to seeing wierd things.
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I don't think that lady GaGa is 'the illuminati puppet'.
viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656&hilit=gaga+illuminati (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656&hilit=gaga+illuminati)
She is F*ucking them!
Chappie
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I don't think that lady GaGa is 'the illuminati puppet'.
viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656&hilit=gaga+illuminati (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656&hilit=gaga+illuminati)
She is F*ucking them!
Chappie
she is, i am sorry. :lol:
gaga wants slaves not fans.
katy perry about alejandro ''Using blasphemy as entertainment is as cheap as a comedian telling a fart joke.''
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Ooh I love a good fart joke but I don't like Gaga
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NWO is a pyramid scheme built with interlocking global puppets like government CIA, KGB, presidents, prime ministers, Bilderbergs, Freemasons, Illuminati, etc etc.
Three Puppet Masters control all the global puppets. :D
The three Pupet Masters are:
1) the City of London/British Monarchy (economy epicentre)
2) the Vatican (spiritual epicentre)
3) Washington State (military epicentre)
I applaud Lady Gaga artistry and appreciate her depiction of some disturbing real life scenarios....that homosexuality,represented by Alejandro, Roberto and Fernado, is interwoven through the Roman Catholic church and accepted by mainstream society like we accept the lawless corruption of Mexico (no offense to the beautiful culture of Mexico only saying that, currently, the world knows that the drug lords rule Mexican government)....and I believe that Gaga's main statement is that we allow corruption to exist.
Disturbing....but true Look at the blank stare of Gaga's eyes as she swallows the rosary beads....doesn't her blank stare remind you of society's blank stare as we swallow the Pope's 'apology' for the churches sexual abuse crimes against our children? We accept the lawlessness of the Catholic church like Mexico accepts the lawlesness of the drug lords.
Sure, we protest...but, not TOO MUCH becuase we don't want to upset those three Puppet Masters, n'est-ce pas?
Love Lady Gaga!
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I share your well written thoughts White_Orchid. I like the bolded part especially.
I never used to like Gaga, but now I have looked at her imagery, lyrics and performances, I believe she is showing us what is really going on. Yes, it is distasteful and shocking, but it has to be because the truth is precisely this.
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Never want to watch that again. :shock:
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It's not as disturbing as the Telephone vid, imo. Nevertheless, this is pretty sick. The imagery depicts sodomy and role reversal, among other things. Notice the bed scenes where men are wearing heels and Gaga is giving it to them in the butt. Maybe it's a joke to all the people that think Gaga is a man. I'm sure she had a good time making this vid (I would too :evil: :oops: )
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I LOVE GAGA!!!! GAY RIGHTS BABY!!!!!!! 8-)
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my[KING]"]I LOVE GAGA!!!! GAY RIGHTS BABY!!!!!!! 8-)
this (http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/685/78574625.gif)
swallow a rosary ... has nothing to do with ''gay rights''.
She gone too far! It's disgusting!
(what is that btw? Upsidedown Cross?? an arrow?? poiting there?/ ahrg, nasty)
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the world has gone foul and nuts no wonder people are going off their trolley :(
i find gaga a weirdo..she needs help serious help..this is disgusting ugghhhhhhh
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my[KING]"]I LOVE GAGA!!!! GAY RIGHTS BABY!!!!!!! 8-)
this (http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/685/78574625.gif)
swallow a rosary ... has nothing to do with ''gay rights''.
She gone too far! It's disgusting!
(what is that btw? Upsidedown Cross?? an arrow?? poiting there?/ ahrg, nasty)
THATS FRICKIN AWESOME! I HAVENT GOTTEN TO SEE THE VIDEO YET. THANKS.
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my[KING]"]my[KING]"]I LOVE GAGA!!!! GAY RIGHTS BABY!!!!!!! 8-)
this (http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/685/78574625.gif)
swallow a rosary ... has nothing to do with ''gay rights''.
She gone too far! It's disgusting!
(what is that btw? Upsidedown Cross?? an arrow?? poiting there?/ ahrg, nasty)
THATS FRICKIN AWESOME! I HAVENT GOTTEN TO SEE THE VIDEO YET. THANKS.
have fun!
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Veeeery Madonna-esque
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She is the next madonna.. up n coming if not already..
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Veeeery Madonna-esque
WATCHED THE VIDEO LAST NIGHT. IT REMINDED ME SO MUCH OF TRUTH OR DARE. I LOVED IT.
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I really felt like I was watching a Madonna vid.
The vid isnt disturbing to me.....I guess Im used to seeing wierd things.
LOVE the song to death but she definitely ripped off Madonna's work, and shame on Steven Klein too!
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She is the next madonna.. up n coming if not already..
You can't be the next anybody by just re-doing everything they did lol I think she has many qualities and the creativity and vision to put her in that category, but right now thats like saying Chris Brown and Usher are the next Michael Jackson just because they steal his moves.
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Okay, I haven't heard a song (I'm in the office), but what a hell is that??????
She is such a illuminati puppet. This is not art. Come on Gaga your voice is to good to be just a puppet.
Every song needs to have a message that could be understood by people who watch.
I remember Madonna, back in 90-ies, she somehow crossed the line to get more attention ( I love Madonna and I am very open about sex and staff but she was all about that and you get full of it) Now Gaga tries to have that and morbid themes in her videos.
So if my son sees this, he'll ask me why is she in her underwear. If she did this video for adults then I'm sorry Gaga, we've seen it all before with other musicians, nothing new, nothing original. The only thing we don't see in this video are puppet strings......
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Is this video clip restricted?? In Australia, it would be considered R rated so anyone under 18 wouldn't be able to watch it. Just curious. And I don't like it at all.
She is a very talented song writer and musicion. I think she should stick to that. It's just so unoriginal. Madonna still has a better body at 50 8-) 8-) 8-)
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This is VERY disturbing to say the least..but what I dont know is, is Gaga for or against "them"? Looking at this video, it is LOADED with all the symbols, I just cant figure that out....but really this is a nasty video.
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http://i27.tinypic.com/34dlvnt.jpg (http://i27.tinypic.com/34dlvnt.jpg) :?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNHtICJyuTQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNHtICJyuTQ)
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Ok...... :idea:
According to Exposing Satanism, the "Upside Down Cross - Symbolizes mockery and rejection of Jesus. Necklaces are worn by many satanist's. It can be seen on Rock singers and their album covers."
A self-professed Satanist says-- The Baphomet is the official symbol of the Church Of Satan, but many Satanists use the inverted cross to symbolize their dislike of Christianity. It's modern meaning has came to mean "anti-Christian" and it is used and recognized as such in today's world...
more info: http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/anti5.htm (http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/anti5.htm)
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I don't cry SCANDAL. She shows a lot of truth, ugly as can be but existing.
Her videos are made by perfectionists, they are of outstanding quality.
The content will be discussed. The "how to" is masterpiece. This is far beyond Madonna.
This is horizons beyond Madonna. Lady Gaga is an extra class.
There is a LOT of money behind her performances.
It is widely spread performance art.
This is evolution of performance art.
We are so used to blood and violence in our every day's "awake" periods that we don't wake up anymore unless someone shakes us by utter shock.
Art will not always fetch us where we are used to stay.
New art is always provocating and demanding.
Do you think that the artworks of Hieronimus Bosch were liked at his time?
We consider them now being masterpieces.
This is what Hieronimus Bosch, one of the most famous Netherlandish painters was pointing out in the 15th century - a century full of war, hate, illness, lies and dictatorship on many levels (and it seems times have not changed so much, have they?).
Not wanting to see the ugly in life is an attempt of hiding from truth and spiritual growth.
(http://michaeljosephtherapy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/mr763the-garden-of-earthly-delights-hell-right-wing-of-triptych-c-1500-posters.jpg)
http://michaeljosephtherapy.com/blog/wp ... osters.jpg (http://michaeljosephtherapy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/mr763the-garden-of-earthly-delights-hell-right-wing-of-triptych-c-1500-posters.jpg)
(http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2008-01/hieronymus-bosch-papercraft.jpg)
http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/20 ... rcraft.jpg (http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2008-01/hieronymus-bosch-papercraft.jpg)
(http://www.sts.tu-harburg.de/projects/WEL/0911/bildtafeln/Images_neu/h.bosch_g.jpg)
http://www.sts.tu-harburg.de/projects/W ... osch_g.jpg (http://www.sts.tu-harburg.de/projects/WEL/0911/bildtafeln/Images_neu/h.bosch_g.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieronymus_Bosch
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this is not mj related :?
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It is MJ related because we are discussing NWO, performance art, music videos and their symbolism and message transfer and because Lady Gaga would have been the one opening the concerts for MJ.
Understanding her role will help understand MJ's role and why we are where we are.
MJ was pioneer in music video art and dared doing what no one else would think of.
Lady Gaga is alike and there are remarkable parallels. She is a MJ admirer btw.
The picture is not gold pants anymore. The picture is a lot bigger.
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the world has gone foul and nuts no wonder people are going off their trolley :(
i find gaga a weirdo..she needs help serious help..this is disgusting ugghhhhhhh
well, thats pretty disrespectful of u to say, there are some Lady GaGa fans in this forum, im one of them,
and theres ppl out there that says that MJ is a weirdo, and i hate that.. and i supposed u too.
Behind all that excentricity, there's a great girl, with a great heart..
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This is the pure example of extrapolating the meaning of a video whos artists and creators just want to shock the watchers. Nothing to do with the so called "illuminatis" and even less with Michael Jackson.
The Gay community is often against the catholic church, that´s why the symbolism of the video plus it is a new era with a new open concept of demading ones rights. Free speech, even if is vulgar or not very respectful, but free speech...and a lot of surreal/ dadaism in it. The gay creative touch is obvious.
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my[KING]"]I LOVE GAGA!!!! GAY RIGHTS BABY!!!!!!! 8-)
this (http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/685/78574625.gif)
swallow a rosary ... has nothing to do with ''gay rights''.
She gone too far! It's disgusting!
(what is that btw? Upsidedown Cross?? an arrow?? poiting there?/ ahrg, nasty)
I see Gaga like this and I know many people may not agree.
She is a controlled puppet.
The above image is of an upside down cross on her genitalia.
The upside down cross representing satanism the opposite of worshipping god and is a mockery of the Crucification of Jesus. The symbolism of the placement of this cross... the female genitalia. This represents another mockery, that of the Virgin Mary whose womb would be considered sacred having conceived, carried and brought forth Jesus, the light of the world, the son of man and the embodiment of God in a human body.
Are you aware that the Illuminati worship Lucifer who was the Angel of Music while in heaven? It therefore makes sense to me that this group would want to control the music industry.
Music affects our DNA, our emotions, our intelligence and can alter our brainwaves, thought patterns etc. It can heal us and it can harm us. It is mathematical, it can be transformed into numbers, colours and geometrical shapes. Planets all make music, space is not silent as was once thought. Music is very powerful and it is also the universal language. Don't you think that controlling the music in our world and lives would then give some type of control over us?
I must say I do not see Gaga like Michael at all. What I do see is psychology being used to make her seem as if she is like Michael. There are millions of fans who no longer have someone that they revered, loved, admired etc. so how do you appeal to those people and make them your fans? You associate yourself with that person. You suggest you have commonalities, that you were going to work with them, that you were going to open the concerts for them, that you admired them. You say that you have a chance to possibly contract a disease that plagued them, you dress like them during your interview on LKL. You do everything possible to associate yourself with that "dead" celebrity, the fans will eat it up, they need a someone new to put their faith in. Really it is time to wake up and realize the manipulation. She is not at all like Michael and you are being sucked into another deception as part of a plan to affect you in so many ways.
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This is the pure example of extrapolating the meaning of a video whos artists and creators just want to shock the watchers. Nothing to do with the so called "illuminatis" and even less with Michael Jackson.
The Gay community is often against the catholic church, that´s why the symbolism of the video plus it is a new era with a new open concept of demading ones rights. Free speech, even if is vulgar or not very respectful, but free speech...and a lot of surreal/ dadaism in it. The gay creative touch is obvious.
Did you read up on mind control if I may ask? Lady Gaga's videos are full of symbolism. I know it's a lot, but try to watch these videos: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10771 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10771)
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Thanks for the videos.
I think that the concept of mind control as such (because I accept it existance as a brain washing method used since ages to manipulate and control people) in this forum is taken out of context and mixed up constantly.
But yes, one must have plenty of REAL information about the subject mind control and I feel that many people reading this forum are too young or not familiar with psychology or psychiatry and are getting the maipulated and wrong info of what mind control is all about in the purest concept of the discipline and word.
You have your view that you promote Souza, but your view is tainted to lead people your path within your beliefs, which I respect, but I also consider it a big risk to "educate" people imposing your (and people following that agenda) point of view about the subject when clearly we all need to see both sides of the coin in order to achieve a full honest understandment of the discipline we are talking about.
I just would like people to do research in both ways about the subject and make their own conclusion without being manipulated or lead to see the matter as the truth.
We have been on to this conversation before. Let´s agree or disagree about it.
I also feel more and more that political ideas are being discussed more than MJ and always under the same excuses " this has to do with MJ, or, if you don´t like it... leave" ;)
And btw, that song "Alejandro" is lame and reminds me of a low class hotel full of drunk tourists high on "sangría" peeing in the pool and shouting.....
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Using blasphemy as entertainment is as cheap as a comedian telling a fart joke.
Katy Perry´s comment regarding this. I couldn´t have said it better! :roll:
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[youtube:2zqzenji]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI5O92dQ48A[/youtube:2zqzenji] nice explanation
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Lady Gaga’s “Alejandro”: The Occult Meaning
Lady Gaga’s Alejandro video caused quite a stir with the blasphemous nature of its imagery. Many people are, however, still wondering: What is the meaning of the song and what message is the video trying to convey? This article examines the occult symbols used in Alejandro in order to understand its underlying message.
(http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/leadalej.jpg)
So, by show of hands, who envisioned gay Nazi soldiers being raped by Lady Gaga while first listening to Alejandro? Okay, counting … one person. One sick, disturbed person. But seriously, art doesn’t have to be literal and Lady Gaga’s latest video surely isn’t. As was the case with Bad Romance and Telephone, the video for Alejandro adds another layer of interpretation to the song by giving the words a deeper meaning.
Taking place in a cold, Orwellian, militaristic setting, the visuals of the video sharply contrast with the “summer-y” Latin beat of the song. Other opposing concepts collide and blend in the video as well: good vs. evil, male vs. female and domination vs. submission. The religious symbolism, in addition to adding the “shock factor” necessary to get people talking, gives the song a definite spiritual connotation.
The video for Alejandro is very symbolic and leaves it open for multiple interpretations. For instance, I’ve read an interpretation of the video claiming that it portrays the Catholic church’s repression of the gay community. This interpretation might have some validity to it, but it ignores many important aspects of the video. Other observers seem to believe that all videos with religious imagery are “tributes to Madonna.” This is an astute observation, but doesn’t explain anything. In addition to a possible tribute, the symbolism of the video tells a story of spiritual rejection and metamorphosis taking place in the context of an oppressive police state. The trend of incorporating militaristic and oppressive imagery in recent music videos has been discussed in some previous articles on Vigilant Citizen.
The video was directed by Steven Klein, a well-established photographer in the fashion industry. He has worked with Calvin Klein, Alexander McQueen, Madonna, Nike and many others. His photographic style often exploits the theme of homoeroticism and he obviously carried that theme into this video format.
We will attempt to decode the symbolism of the video and how it relates in today’s context.
Spiritual Transformation
The most prevalent theme in the song is rejection. The introduction of the song establishes this concept right away:
“I know that we are young.
And I know you may love me.
But I just can’t be with you like this anymore,
Alejandro.”
(http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/alej11-e1276353696244.jpg)
The video starts with a funeral procession. Gaga wears a black veil and holds the Sacred Heart, the bleeding heart of God for humanity. Something is dead inside of Gaga and it seems to be her love for Alejandro.
(http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/alej10-e1276373452236.jpg)
But who is Alejandro? A gay guy she cannot be with? A man she is cheating on with Roberto and Fernando? All possibilities, the song is not quite clear about that. The imagery of the video, however, tells the viewers that Alejandro might stand for something deeper.
In a later scene, Gaga is shown laying down, wearing a red latex nun suit and holding a rosary.
(http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/alej2-e1276353661279.jpg)
Looking at the sky she says: “Stop, please, just let me go.” Then, just when she says “Alejandro,” she raises her hands to the sky. In this context, it is safe to say that Alejandro might very well be God.
“She hides true love
En su bolsillo.
She’s got a halo ’round her finger,
Around you.”
The halo around the finger is a wedding ring and Alejandro has a halo around him, which signifies he is considered “holy.” The wedding ring represents Gaga’s union with God through religion, but she is now ashamed of this marriage. She hides the ring in her bolsillo, the Spanish word for pocket. Why does she refer to a Fernando and a Roberto at some point? Is she referring to the triple aspect of God, the holy Trinity?
The concept of rejection is thus applied to God as he does not seem to satisfy Gaga’s spiritual needs. She then decides to seek godhood herself by embracing a new type of spirituality. It seems to me the nun becomes a Luciferian priestess.
(http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/alej3-e1276354386311.jpg)
+ >> http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3979 (http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3979)
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On that site we got the full article. That's great..
So yes, at the end..is she a marionette herself? ;)
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First I want to know who saw Empire city - Ring of power, cause this music video reminds me of that documentary. It's like she's replying to that movie. Illuminati don't believe in God but in the sun. The bible is supposedly written by them and it's completely fake. They wrote the Bible to have a spiritual guide for the mass of humans that they want to manipulate (us). Why did the catholic church killed so many people that refused to believe their God? To scare anyone else into their religion. The knight Templar are the ancestors of Masons and Illuminati. At the beginning of the video Lady Gaga is wearing a sort of crown..right? Who does she resemble? Only one queen is so well known all around the world. That white costume with the red upside down cross is like the knight Templar costume. Someone said upside down cross symbolizes mockery and rejection of Jesus, and now I say it means mockery of Illuminati and knight Templar. "She's got a halo 'round her finger around you." That halo that she mentions is a ring, the "Ring of Power".You helped me understand the video, even more. Alejandro has a halo around him, like a holy person, Jesus maybe ? I don't want to instigate to hate or denial towards religion or anything, I just want to make you open your eyes and look for the truth yourself don't beLIEve anything that it's been said. I've lived my entire life (I'm only 25) believing in God , Jesus and Virgin Mary, and all the other saints. Now I don't believe anything anymore. Even Michael being dead is too much for me to trust, since I didn't witnessed the death. Someone posted Katie Melua video clip, she sings "don't trust your eyes it's easy to believe them".... In a world full of lies to tell the truth is a revolutionary act. Maybe that's what Lady Gaga is doing. If she is a Illuminati puppet, I don't consider her a threat, she only opens my eyes. That helped me. I love that video Glinda .... "We're ignorant" and that's why we're losing the war.. L.O.V.E.
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That is sad. Religion is spiritual experience. There is no art without harmony. Finally you end up fighting against yourself. Take care ! (An advice from a roumanian friend)
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I don't think that lady GaGa is 'the illuminati puppet'.
viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656&hilit=gaga+illuminati (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656&hilit=gaga+illuminati)
She is F*ucking them!
Chappie
she is, i am sorry. :lol:
gaga wants slaves not fans.
katy perry about alejandro ''Using blasphemy as entertainment is as cheap as a comedian telling a fart joke.''
lol...I love Katy Perry and i 100% agree with her!!!! :!:
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Indeed ! Her statement is brilliant. I love her too.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sh ... stage.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/3025924/Lady-GaGa-to-display-dead-bodies-on-stage.html)
What a thriller! :mrgreen:
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Indeed *a step too far*. Desgusting !
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... ezing.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1195750/Michael-Jackson-set-plastinated-missing-deadline-cryogenic-freezing.html)
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Michael Jackson's Body -- Hold the Plastic
Originally posted Jun 27th 2009 8:21 AM PDT by TMZ Staff
While it may seem like the kind of thing Michael Jackson would do, reports that the late singer made plans to have himself "plastinated" and put on display are exaggerated.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2009/06/27/0627_michael_jackson_body_worlds_getty_80028891_88656575.jpg)
The director of publicity for Dr. Gunther von Hagens tells TMZ someone claiming to be from Jackson's management team did contact BODY WORLDS several months ago about Jackson's interest in being preserved in plastic.
But, she says, "We can further confirm that Mr. Jackson is not now a registered body donor in the Institute for Plastination's Body Donation Program."
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/27/michael-j ... e-plastic/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/27/michael-jacksons-body-hold-the-plastic/)
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Not now? :roll:
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I must say I do not see Gaga like Michael at all. What I do see is psychology being used to make her seem as if she is like Michael. There are millions of fans who no longer have someone that they revered, loved, admired etc. so how do you appeal to those people and make them your fans? You associate yourself with that person. You suggest you have commonalities, that you were going to work with them, that you were going to open the concerts for them, that you admired them. You say that you have a chance to possibly contract a disease that plagued them, you dress like them during your interview on LKL. You do everything possible to associate yourself with that "dead" celebrity, the fans will eat it up, they need a someone new to put their faith in. Really it is time to wake up and realize the manipulation. She is not at all like Michael and you are being sucked into another deception as part of a plan to affect you in so many ways
I completely agree with everything you just said. It's exploitation.
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I must say I do not see Gaga like Michael at all. What I do see is psychology being used to make her seem as if she is like Michael. There are millions of fans who no longer have someone that they revered, loved, admired etc. so how do you appeal to those people and make them your fans? You associate yourself with that person. You suggest you have commonalities, that you were going to work with them, that you were going to open the concerts for them, that you admired them. You say that you have a chance to possibly contract a disease that plagued them, you dress like them during your interview on LKL. You do everything possible to associate yourself with that "dead" celebrity, the fans will eat it up, they need a someone new to put their faith in. Really it is time to wake up and realize the manipulation. She is not at all like Michael and you are being sucked into another deception as part of a plan to affect you in so many ways
I completely agree with everything you just said. It's exploitation.
Okay I have a few things to say! First of all I completely 100% agree with this as well, however I do consider myself somewhat of a Lady Gaga fan. I'm going to see her concert in August, I think her music is fun and entertaining. I know Michael was a fan of Gaga, I mean he was a fan of her music, and her performances because I mean let's face it she's unique and it was probably intriguing to Michael and I'm sure Michael was an inspiration to Gaga as well, HOWEVER when people compare the two of them and say Lady Gaga is the next Michael Jackson, first of all obviously they're not thinking that statement through, second of all people who say that are probably more crazed about Lady Gaga than they were about Michael Jackson. Meaning people who never really liked Michael that much, but knew he was an icon, and now they have somebody new and "modern" i guess you could say, to look up to. Alright so sure Lady Gaga stands out and she's very different and thats why a lot of people like her AND thats how they compare her to Michael. "Oh they both did things that nobody else has every done before." Okay...let's look at what they've done shall we? How long has Michael been in the business? I'm pretty sure out of all the videos he's made there's never been something quite as graphic as this Alejandro video. I kind of like the song, I like the dance numbers in the video but there are some pretty disturbing scenes. One thing Michael ALWAYS made sure of when he created something was that it would APPEAL to the public, he wanted children to be able to enjoy it as well as elderly and he wanted black people to enjoy it as well as whites and he wanted muslims to be able to enjoy it as well as christians. He was about uniting people. This Alejandro video is very offensive to religious people. You can stand up for gay people without disgracing a religion like that. Just because somebody is a christian and believes in God doesn't mean that they hate gay people! It's ridiculous! Sure Michael pushed the boundaries and made history by innovation and doing things never having been done before, but he was still classy and made sure EVERYONE around the world would enjoy it and yeah he dressed different but...I mean he still dressed like a human being haha I mean people noticed him and he stood out and the majority thought he was a trend setter while the minority considered it weird, whereas with Gaga its the other way around. Also Michaels music is much more relateable to people around the world. I'm sure Gagas message is relateable but its the context that she puts her message in that makes it hard for people to understand.
So to sum up, yes I respect Gaga for being different and I think her music is fun, but the fact that she so publicly slanders the Christian faith makes me step back a little... and as for comparing her to Michael, sure they have similarities but no more so than I think comparing Michael to Chris Brown or Justin Timberlake. There are artists that are like Michael, doesnt mean theyre the NEXT Michael.
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I see Gaga like this and I know many people may not agree.
She is a controlled puppet.
The above image is of an upside down cross on her genitalia.
The upside down cross representing satanism the opposite of worshipping god and is a mockery of the Crucification of Jesus. The symbolism of the placement of this cross... the female genitalia. This represents another mockery, that of the Virgin Mary whose womb would be considered sacred having conceived, carried and brought forth Jesus, the light of the world, the son of man and the embodiment of God in a human body.
Are you aware that the Illuminati worship Lucifer who was the Angel of Music while in heaven? It therefore makes sense to me that this group would want to control the music industry.
Music affects our DNA, our emotions, our intelligence and can alter our brainwaves, thought patterns etc. It can heal us and it can harm us. It is mathematical, it can be transformed into numbers, colours and geometrical shapes. Planets all make music, space is not silent as was once thought. Music is very powerful and it is also the universal language. Don't you think that controlling the music in our world and lives would then give some type of control over us?
I must say I do not see Gaga like Michael at all. What I do see is psychology being used to make her seem as if she is like Michael. There are millions of fans who no longer have someone that they revered, loved, admired etc. so how do you appeal to those people and make them your fans? You associate yourself with that person. You suggest you have commonalities, that you were going to work with them, that you were going to open the concerts for them, that you admired them. You say that you have a chance to possibly contract a disease that plagued them, you dress like them during your interview on LKL. You do everything possible to associate yourself with that "dead" celebrity, the fans will eat it up, they need a someone new to put their faith in. Really it is time to wake up and realize the manipulation. She is not at all like Michael and you are being sucked into another deception as part of a plan to affect you in so many ways.
I agree with you all the way, she deffinetly a little puppet.
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In Rabbi's book "The Michael Jackson Tapes," Michael said he does not want to be seen and he doesn't want anyone to see his body, so why would he want his corpse to be exposed like that? This is trash.
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In Rabbi's book "The Michael Jackson Tapes," Michael said he does not want to be seen and he doesn't want anyone to see his body, so why would he want his corpse to be exposed like that? This is trash.
Publicity stunt! :mrgreen:
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made me wanna barf...but i like the dance sequence in the end...thats why Michael wanted to work with her, to snap her out of the illuminattis...
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(http://i48.tinypic.com/2r2rhms.jpg) Alejandro ?????? :mrgreen:
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnoth ... 86463.html (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/48386463.html)
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That model is a man, not Gaga
LOL @
Gaga for Vogue Hommes Japan?
Take a look at these new photos released by SHOWstudio.com today of model “Jo Calderone” on set of a shoot for Vogue Hommes Japan. Two new photos will be posted on the SHOWstudio website every day this week. Press is speculating whether or not this is Gaga ** although most Gaga website claim that it is her. Jo is her alterego.
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(http://www.accidentalsexiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/52797el_lady_gaga_b_gr_01.jpg)
check the ears... (hahaha :mrgreen: :mrgreen: )
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Serenitys_Dream wrote:
I must say I do not see Gaga like Michael at all. What I do see is psychology being used to make her seem as if she is like Michael. There are millions of fans who no longer have someone that they revered, loved, admired etc. so how do you appeal to those people and make them your fans? You associate yourself with that person. You suggest you have commonalities, that you were going to work with them, that you were going to open the concerts for them, that you admired them. You say that you have a chance to possibly contract a disease that plagued them, you dress like them during your interview on LKL. You do everything possible to associate yourself with that "dead" celebrity, the fans will eat it up, they need a someone new to put their faith in. Really it is time to wake up and realize the manipulation. She is not at all like Michael and you are being sucked into another deception as part of a plan to affect you in so many ways.
missdanipyt wrote:
Alright so sure Lady Gaga stands out and she's very different and thats why a lot of people like her AND thats how they compare her to Michael. "Oh they both did things that nobody else has every done before." Okay...let's look at what they've done shall we? How long has Michael been in the business? I'm pretty sure out of all the videos he's made there's never been something quite as graphic as this Alejandro video. I kind of like the song, I like the dance numbers in the video but there are some pretty disturbing scenes. One thing Michael ALWAYS made sure of when he created something was that it would APPEAL to the public, he wanted children to be able to enjoy it as well as elderly and he wanted black people to enjoy it as well as whites and he wanted muslims to be able to enjoy it as well as christians. He was about uniting people. This Alejandro video is very offensive to religious people. You can stand up for gay people without disgracing a religion like that. Just because somebody is a christian and believes in God doesn't mean that they hate gay people! It's ridiculous! Sure Michael pushed the boundaries and made history by innovation and doing things never having been done before, but he was still classy and made sure EVERYONE around the world would enjoy it and yeah he dressed different but...I mean he still dressed like a human being haha I mean people noticed him and he stood out and the majority thought he was a trend setter while the minority considered it weird, whereas with Gaga its the other way around. Also Michaels music is much more relateable to people around the world. I'm sure Gagas message is relateable but its the context that she puts her message in that makes it hard for people to understand.
So to sum up, yes I respect Gaga for being different and I think her music is fun, but the fact that she so publicly slanders the Christian faith makes me step back a little... and as for comparing her to Michael, sure they have similarities but no more so than I think comparing Michael to Chris Brown or Justin Timberlake. There are artists that are like Michael, doesnt mean theyre the NEXT Michael.
Agreed.
I am NOT a Lady Gaga fan. I'll say that up-front. When she first hit the scene, I thought her music was catchy but as I learned more about her, the more ugliness I saw. It's the whole package, people. The fact that she's as popular as she is tells me a lot about today's society and what it values (or what it considers "art"), and I find that very disturbing. Calling it performance art doesn't mean it's good.
To say that she can hold a candle to Michael Jackson or that she could even (laughably) be considered the next Michael Jackson is utterly ludicrous. I've thought a lot about why Michael is the biggest superstar this world has ever seen and I think it comes down to CLASS, all the way around. Despite all the money, all the influence, all the adulation, he remains a humble, grounded human being. He promotes love, peace, humanitarianism. That's what I find inspiring. Michael makes me want to be a better person. Can people honestly say the same about Gaga? It's all shock value, in-your-face extremism, and it's all about her, just like so many other so-call 'stars" out there. I'm tired of supporting those kinds of people and that kind of crap.
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Oh yes that why she is the "famemonster"
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my[KING]"]I LOVE GAGA!!!! GAY RIGHTS BABY!!!!!!! 8-)
this (http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/685/78574625.gif)
swallow a rosary ... has nothing to do with ''gay rights''.
She gone too far! It's disgusting!
(what is that btw? Upsidedown Cross?? an arrow?? poiting there?/ ahrg, nasty)
:o :o :shock: :shock: :o :shock: :? :twisted: ewwwwwww thats put me off my midnight feast dirty mare who wants to see her camel toe ewwwwwwwwwwwww!!
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How about this? MKULTRA ??
http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/lady-gaga/ ... ati-ritual (http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/lady-gaga/news/228623-lady-gaga-isnt-that-an-illuminati-ritual)
:shock:
Alejandro videoclip outfits??
(http://ragebot.com/images/templar4.jpg)
Fernando?=Don Fernando?
Alejandro= Alexander the Great?
Roberto=( too many roberts.. follows later)
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Michael Jackson's Body -- Hold the Plastic
Originally posted Jun 27th 2009 8:21 AM PDT by TMZ Staff
While it may seem like the kind of thing Michael Jackson would do, reports that the late singer made plans to have himself "plastinated" and put on display are exaggerated.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2009/06/27/0627_michael_jackson_body_worlds_getty_80028891_88656575.jpg)
The director of publicity for Dr. Gunther von Hagens tells TMZ someone claiming to be from Jackson's management team did contact BODY WORLDS several months ago about Jackson's interest in being preserved in plastic.
But, she says, "We can further confirm that Mr. Jackson is not now a registered body donor in the Institute for Plastination's Body Donation Program."
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/27/michael-j ... e-plastic/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/27/michael-jacksons-body-hold-the-plastic/)
you want to know what's weird about this? this exhibition is at the luxor right now. right along with beLIEve. things that make you go hmmm.
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my[KING]"]I LOVE GAGA!!!! GAY RIGHTS BABY!!!!!!! 8-)
this (http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/685/78574625.gif)
swallow a rosary ... has nothing to do with ''gay rights''.
She gone too far! It's disgusting!
(what is that btw? Upsidedown Cross?? an arrow?? poiting there?/ ahrg, nasty)
She's disgusting as hell. And I don't like the symbolism she uses in her videos. She's so like Madonna and I don't like that bitch either. Sorry for my language lol
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I like so much the song "Alejandro" but her video bleah... so many symbols and disgusting scenes , it's not a clip to be watched by children :|
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What's with the drills at 0:43 to 0:48. It looks like "They don't care about us" drills. :?
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In Rabbi's book "The Michael Jackson Tapes," Michael said he does not want to be seen and he doesn't want anyone to see his body, so why would he want his corpse to be exposed like that? This is trash.
Publicity stunt! :mrgreen:
The world is full of Chaos! Keep the Faith!
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What's with the drills at 0:43 to 0:48. It looks like "They don't care about us" drills. :?
yeah it looks to me like that
and guys have you notice this at 3:20???
I'm sure you've seen that somewhere
what does that circle means??
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What does the circle mean? I saw it in TII. Do you mean by the circle in TII form by Mike, K.O. and other dancers?
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What does the circle mean? I saw it in TII. Do you mean by the circle in TII form by Mike, K.O. and other dancers?
That circle from the video is like the circle from the memorial when the dancers from TII danced around Jenifer Hudson :?
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What does the circle mean? I saw it in TII. Do you mean by the circle in TII form by Mike, K.O. and other dancers?
That circle from the video is like the circle from the memorial when the dancers from TII danced around Jenifer Hudson :?
Oh yeah. How could I forgot that circle from the memorial. :oops: :P
Btw.. forming a circle like that is something like umm "together as one" something like that. :? :? :?
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Serenitys_Dream wrote:
I must say I do not see Gaga like Michael at all. What I do see is psychology being used to make her seem as if she is like Michael. There are millions of fans who no longer have someone that they revered, loved, admired etc. so how do you appeal to those people and make them your fans? You associate yourself with that person. You suggest you have commonalities, that you were going to work with them, that you were going to open the concerts for them, that you admired them. You say that you have a chance to possibly contract a disease that plagued them, you dress like them during your interview on LKL. You do everything possible to associate yourself with that "dead" celebrity, the fans will eat it up, they need a someone new to put their faith in. Really it is time to wake up and realize the manipulation. She is not at all like Michael and you are being sucked into another deception as part of a plan to affect you in so many ways.
missdanipyt wrote:
Alright so sure Lady Gaga stands out and she's very different and thats why a lot of people like her AND thats how they compare her to Michael. "Oh they both did things that nobody else has every done before." Okay...let's look at what they've done shall we? How long has Michael been in the business? I'm pretty sure out of all the videos he's made there's never been something quite as graphic as this Alejandro video. I kind of like the song, I like the dance numbers in the video but there are some pretty disturbing scenes. One thing Michael ALWAYS made sure of when he created something was that it would APPEAL to the public, he wanted children to be able to enjoy it as well as elderly and he wanted black people to enjoy it as well as whites and he wanted muslims to be able to enjoy it as well as christians. He was about uniting people. This Alejandro video is very offensive to religious people. You can stand up for gay people without disgracing a religion like that. Just because somebody is a christian and believes in God doesn't mean that they hate gay people! It's ridiculous! Sure Michael pushed the boundaries and made history by innovation and doing things never having been done before, but he was still classy and made sure EVERYONE around the world would enjoy it and yeah he dressed different but...I mean he still dressed like a human being haha I mean people noticed him and he stood out and the majority thought he was a trend setter while the minority considered it weird, whereas with Gaga its the other way around. Also Michaels music is much more relateable to people around the world. I'm sure Gagas message is relateable but its the context that she puts her message in that makes it hard for people to understand.
So to sum up, yes I respect Gaga for being different and I think her music is fun, but the fact that she so publicly slanders the Christian faith makes me step back a little... and as for comparing her to Michael, sure they have similarities but no more so than I think comparing Michael to Chris Brown or Justin Timberlake. There are artists that are like Michael, doesnt mean theyre the NEXT Michael.
Agreed.
I am NOT a Lady Gaga fan. I'll say that up-front. When she first hit the scene, I thought her music was catchy but as I learned more about her, the more ugliness I saw. It's the whole package, people. The fact that she's as popular as she is tells me a lot about today's society and what it values (or what it considers "art"), and I find that very disturbing. Calling it performance art doesn't mean it's good.
To say that she can hold a candle to Michael Jackson or that she could even (laughably) be considered the next Michael Jackson is utterly ludicrous. I've thought a lot about why Michael is the biggest superstar this world has ever seen and I think it comes down to CLASS, all the way around. Despite all the money, all the influence, all the adulation, he remains a humble, grounded human being. He promotes love, peace, humanitarianism. That's what I find inspiring. Michael makes me want to be a better person. Can people honestly say the same about Gaga? It's all shock value, in-your-face extremism, and it's all about her, just like so many other so-call 'stars" out there. I'm tired of supporting those kinds of people and that kind of crap.
I have to agree with you Serentity's_Dream and missdaniypyt and! Gaga has no talent as far as I am concerned. She's not going to last long in the industry. She's what everyone calls a trend. Trends don't last. How can anyone compare her to MJ. She will never be a legend. Aside from that MJ didn't go around doing luducrious and exteme acts to bring attention to himself. I was watching one of the E-news shows last week and it showed a picture of Gaga in the airport wearing one of her freaky, classless outfits. She was in really tall platforms and had fallen down. They were laughing and said no better for her because she was always walking around trying to shock everyone with what she wore. MJ had substance and talent! All Gaga has is shock value! Keep the Faith!
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Whoa!!! All the hate towards Gaga, while you don´t even know her! :shock:
I think she is very talented. You can´t compare her to MJ, because she is a totally different person-artist. This is one of her early performances, before the industry made a freak out of her:
[youtube:sis9351y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM51qOpwcIM[/youtube:sis9351y]
Don't judge so fast, we don't know what she has been through to get where she is now, and we don't know if she likes it there.
Lady GaGa: "Isn't That An Illuminati Ritual?..."
The pop singer settles the rumours...
11:17, Monday, 28 June 2010
Rumours about Lady GaGa's supposed ties to the Illuminati cult have been around for a while now.
Lady G has revealed that a bizarre dream was the cause of all of this. GaGa claims that her weird dress sense and stage shows are in fact inspired by an Illuminati dream.
She told Rolling Stone Magazine: “I have this recurring dream sometimes where there’s a phantom in my home. He takes me into a room, and there’s a blond girl with ropes tied to all four of her limbs. And she’s got my shoes on from the Grammys. Go figure - pyscho. And the ropes are pulling her apart.”
If you think that sounded weird, it gets worse for the star:
“I never see her get pulled apart, but I just watch her whimper, and then the phantom says to me, ‘If you want me to stop hurting her and if you want your family to be OK, you will cut your wrist.’ And I think that he has his own, like, crazy wrist-cutting device. And he has this honey in, like, Tupperware, and it looks like sweet-and-sour sauce with a lot of MSG from New York. Just bizarre. And he wants me to pour the honey into the wound, and then put cream over it and a gauze.”
GaGa was confused by her dream and turned to other sources to find out its meaning.
“So I looked up the dream, and I couldn’t find anything about it anywhere. And my mother goes, ‘Isn’t that an illuminati ritual?’ And I was like, ‘Oh, my God!’ I do have morbid dreams. But I put them in the show. A lot of the work I do is an exorcism for the fans but also for myself.”
http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/lady-gaga/ ... ati-ritual (http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/lady-gaga/news/228623-lady-gaga-isnt-that-an-illuminati-ritual)
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I posted that article from mtv about the illuminati dreams as well.
It makes me think of mkultra.
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Whoa!!! All the hate towards Gaga, while you don´t even know her! :shock:
I think she is very talented. You can´t compare her to MJ, because she is a totally different person-artist. This is one of her early performances, before the industry made a freak out of her:
[youtube:gu0o6wdo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM51qOpwcIM[/youtube:gu0o6wdo]
Don't judge so fast, we don't know what she has been through to get where she is now, and we don't know if she likes it there.
Lady GaGa: "Isn't That An Illuminati Ritual?..."
The pop singer settles the rumours...
11:17, Monday, 28 June 2010
Rumours about Lady GaGa's supposed ties to the Illuminati cult have been around for a while now.
Lady G has revealed that a bizarre dream was the cause of all of this. GaGa claims that her weird dress sense and stage shows are in fact inspired by an Illuminati dream.
She told Rolling Stone Magazine: “I have this recurring dream sometimes where there’s a phantom in my home. He takes me into a room, and there’s a blond girl with ropes tied to all four of her limbs. And she’s got my shoes on from the Grammys. Go figure - pyscho. And the ropes are pulling her apart.”
If you think that sounded weird, it gets worse for the star:
“I never see her get pulled apart, but I just watch her whimper, and then the phantom says to me, ‘If you want me to stop hurting her and if you want your family to be OK, you will cut your wrist.’ And I think that he has his own, like, crazy wrist-cutting device. And he has this honey in, like, Tupperware, and it looks like sweet-and-sour sauce with a lot of MSG from New York. Just bizarre. And he wants me to pour the honey into the wound, and then put cream over it and a gauze.”
GaGa was confused by her dream and turned to other sources to find out its meaning.
“So I looked up the dream, and I couldn’t find anything about it anywhere. And my mother goes, ‘Isn’t that an illuminati ritual?’ And I was like, ‘Oh, my God!’ I do have morbid dreams. But I put them in the show. A lot of the work I do is an exorcism for the fans but also for myself.”
http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/lady-gaga/ ... ati-ritual (http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/lady-gaga/news/228623-lady-gaga-isnt-that-an-illuminati-ritual)
I don't believe anyone is hating on Gaga or judging her. I am only speaking for myself here but I don't care for her music at all along with alot of other artists out nowadays. Their music has no message and alot of the songs are just a bunch of meaningless words that you can't half understand what is being said anyway. At the end of the day! You either like the music of an artist or you don't. I am not one of her fans. I am ole school! I like music that sends a message. It seems like music nowadays is going nowhere and the videos well we won't go there! Keep the Faith!
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What does the circle mean? I saw it in TII. Do you mean by the circle in TII form by Mike, K.O. and other dancers?
That circle from the video is like the circle from the memorial when the dancers from TII danced around Jenifer Hudson :?
yeah that's the one I'm talking about what does it means??
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Lols i like the song and the video :oops:
I really like Lady GaGa i mean she is VERY outrageous and unpredictable :oops:
The video is interesting and hot :D
The drill i like it when this was on t.v they were talking about and they said that this reminds them of videos from Janet Jackson,Christina Augilera,and well MADONNA :D
She is the next Madonna 2 me and it's not necessarily a bad thing.
She's just different from everyone else i guess :D
I like artists like that ;) She's talented and beautiful :D
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Lady Gaga and the New World Order
Lady Gaga's music videos are undoubtedly elaborate – but is there any truth to one blogger's claims that they are loaded with occult references and masonic symbolism?
You might think that by know you've read more than enough online exegesis of Lady Gaga's videos but you haven't even scratched the surface until you've read the work of The Vigilant Citizen. This anonymous Canadian blogger explained last year's Paparazzi video with reference to the CIA's MK-ULTRA mind-control programme, Fritz Lang's Metropolis, the Eye of Horus and the goat-god Baphomet, concluding that Gaga was indubitably an "Illuminati puppet". Bad Romance apparently "offers a chilling description of a music industry ruled by the elite". In Alejandro, she "flashes in her fans' faces the symbols of their own oppression".
The Vigilant Citizen has a good claim to be the world's most distinctive music critic. On his website, vigilantcitizen.com, he describes himself as a graduate in communications and politics and a producer for "some fairly well-known 'urban' artists". He has spent five years researching "Theosophy, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, the Bavarian Illuminati and Western Occultism". All of these interests converge in his insanely detailed analyses of the symbolism of pop videos and lyrics. Thus Pink's MTV awards performance mimics a Masonic initiation; Jay-Z's Run This Town trumpets the coming of the New World Order (NWO); and the video for Black Eyed Peas' Imma Be Rocking That Body advances "the transhumanist and police state agenda".
What's surprising is the methodical, matter-of-fact, occasionally humorous tone of his essays. He does not write like a swivel-eyed loon rambling about Obamunism (although, inevitably, there's an unsavoury fascination with Jewish influence). To those who don't study occult symbolism, he concedes, it might all seem "totally far-fetched and ridiculous", but for those in the know "I was simply stating the obvious". His examinations are certainly exhaustive. Scrolling down his densely illustrated posts, you may find yourself thinking, "Say, Lady Gaga really does very often cover up one eye. And a lot of pop stars really do pretend to be robots."
But the Vigilant Citizen can't encounter a predictable pop trope without interpreting it as part of an occult music-industry plot to brainwash the masses. The ostensibly meaningless "Bum bum be-dum" refrain in Rihanna's Disturbia, for example, is decoded as: "You good-for-nothing, idiotic person, let yourself become dumb, stop thinking and let yourself be hypnotised and possessed." It's something of a stretch.
Nonetheless, his eccentric readings have attracted a large and passionate following: several posts have received more than 1,000 comments. Some readers recently took it upon themselves to analyse Muse's seemingly sympathetic album The Resistance, with its references to the "third eye" and MK-ULTRA, concluding sadly that the band were "definitely tools of NWO", assigned to make real conspiracy theorists look ridiculous.
Although the Vigilant Citizen insists he is neither a political conservative nor a religious fundamentalist, he is heir to such off-piste 60s pop critics as the Reverend David A Noebel, author of Communism, Hypnotism and the Beatles, and Gary Allen, who theorised that post-Rubber Soul Beatles material was so technically sophisticated that it must have been "put together by behavioural scientists in some think tank". Leftwing thinkers at the time had their own take on pop as mind control. Peter Watkins' 1967 movie Privilege starred Manfred Mann's Paul Jones as a puppet of the state, pacifying the populace with catchy patriotic tunes. In such analysis, the villains may change but the mechanisms remain the same.
The Vigilant Citizen's work is a fascinating glimpse into the current resurgence (witness the Tea Party movement) of what academic Richard Hofstadter diagnosed in 1964 as "the paranoid style", with its obsession with plots and "refusal to accept the ineluctable limitations and imperfections of human existence". To the Vigilant Citizen, a pop star appearing "vacuous, incoherent and absent-minded" must be "a tribute to mind control" rather than them actually being vacuous, incoherent and absent-minded. Sometimes, surely, pop music is just pop music. Or is that what the Illuminati want us to think?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/ju ... illuminati (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/jul/01/lady-gaga-vigilant-citizen-illuminati)
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Whoa!!! All the hate towards Gaga, while you don´t even know her! :shock:
I think she is very talented. You can´t compare her to MJ, because she is a totally different person-artist. This is one of her early performances, before the industry made a freak out of her:
[youtube:v2lh3her]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM51qOpwcIM[/youtube:v2lh3her]
Don't judge so fast, we don't know what she has been through to get where she is now, and we don't know if she likes it there.
Lady GaGa: "Isn't That An Illuminati Ritual?..."
The pop singer settles the rumours...
11:17, Monday, 28 June 2010
Rumours about Lady GaGa's supposed ties to the Illuminati cult have been around for a while now.
Lady G has revealed that a bizarre dream was the cause of all of this. GaGa claims that her weird dress sense and stage shows are in fact inspired by an Illuminati dream.
She told Rolling Stone Magazine: “I have this recurring dream sometimes where there’s a phantom in my home. He takes me into a room, and there’s a blond girl with ropes tied to all four of her limbs. And she’s got my shoes on from the Grammys. Go figure - pyscho. And the ropes are pulling her apart.”
If you think that sounded weird, it gets worse for the star:
“I never see her get pulled apart, but I just watch her whimper, and then the phantom says to me, ‘If you want me to stop hurting her and if you want your family to be OK, you will cut your wrist.’ And I think that he has his own, like, crazy wrist-cutting device. And he has this honey in, like, Tupperware, and it looks like sweet-and-sour sauce with a lot of MSG from New York. Just bizarre. And he wants me to pour the honey into the wound, and then put cream over it and a gauze.”
GaGa was confused by her dream and turned to other sources to find out its meaning.
“So I looked up the dream, and I couldn’t find anything about it anywhere. And my mother goes, ‘Isn’t that an illuminati ritual?’ And I was like, ‘Oh, my God!’ I do have morbid dreams. But I put them in the show. A lot of the work I do is an exorcism for the fans but also for myself.”
http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/lady-gaga/ ... ati-ritual (http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/lady-gaga/news/228623-lady-gaga-isnt-that-an-illuminati-ritual)
well...I'm not really against her...just not a fan (I admit a couple of her songs are pretty catchy though) but i never saw her "uniqueness" as genuine...i always felt like it was all 4 publicity...her in this vid is amaing though...if this was the Gaga we see today I would B a HUGE fan...she has difinite talent and I really love this song, but the Fame Monster- I'm not a fan of
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That's nice and everything that she has admiration for MJ but to me she seem more like a gimmick. I think she does have talent but that's what she's being used as to sell records. She comes across as a more extreme version of Madonna in the 80's. I'm not being mean just my personal opinion.
Description of gimmick - American Heritage® Dictionary
NOUN: 1a. A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick, especially a mechanism for the secret and dishonest control of gambling apparatus. b. An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget. gimmickyAdditional references: Wikipedia
In marketing language, a gimmick is a quirky feature that distinguishes a product or service without adding any obvious function or value. Thus, a gimmick sells solely on the basis of distinctiveness and may not appeal to the more savvy or shrewd customer.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimmick - Cached
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ALEJANDRO
Gender: Masculine
Usage: Spanish
Spanish form of ALEXANDER
ALEXANDER
Gender: Masculine
Usage: English, German, Dutch, Scandinavian, Hungarian, Slovak, Biblical, Ancient Greek (Latinized), Greek Mythology (Latinized)
Latinized form of the Greek name Alexandros, which meant "defending men" from Greek alexo "to defend, help" and aner "man". In Greek mythology this was another name of the hero Paris, and it also belongs to several characters in the New Testament. However, the most famous bearer was Alexander the Great, King of Macedon. In the 4th century BC he built a huge empire out of Greece, Egypt, Persia, and parts of India. Due to his fame, and later medieval tales involving him, use of his name spread throughout Europe.
PARIS
Gender: Masculine
Usage: Greek Mythology
Meaning unknown. In Greek mythology he was the Trojan prince who kidnapped Helen and began the Trojan War. Though presented as a somewhat of a coward in the 'Iliad', he did manage to slay the great hero Achilles. He was himself eventually slain in battle by Philoctetes.
ALEXANDRA
Gender: Feminine
Usage: German, Scandinavian, Dutch, French, English, Greek, Portuguese, Romanian, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, Ancient Greek, Greek Mythology
Feminine form of ALEXANDER. In Greek mythology this was a Mycenaean epithet of the goddess Hera, and an alternate name of Cassandra.
HERA
Gender: Feminine
Usage: Greek Mythology
Uncertain meaning, possibly from either Greek heros "hero, warrior"; hora "period of time"; or ‘haireo "to be chosen". In Greek mythology Hera was the queen of the gods, the sister and wife of Zeus. She presided over marriage and childbirth.
CASSANDRA
Gender: Feminine
Usage: English, Greek Mythology (Latinized)
From the Greek Kassandra, which possibly meant "shining upon man", derived from kekasmai "to shine" and aner "man". In Greek myth Cassandra was a Trojan princess, the daughter of Priam and Hecuba. She was given the gift of prophecy by Apollo, but when she spurned his advances he cursed her so nobody would believe her prophecies.
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Thank you, Serenity, you are always a source of inspiration with your posts.
You are outstanding in your research. :!:
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I am a Lady Gaga fan, and i don't really believe she is a puppet. Actually, if she was a puppet she would be the same generic pop as Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus, and the like, which she is obviously not. And i really hate when the media and other people insist in saying how she is a copy of Madonna, when she has a lot of influences from a lot of artists, not only Madonna. She may have inspiration on Madonna and other's work, but she adapts and modify them to suit her own style. Lady Gaga is a real artist.
She is even protesting against the prejudice against illegal immigrants and gay people in the US. if she was following the government agenda, she would be quiet and not encourage her fans to be against prejudice.
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I like her... ;)
Chappie