Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: JukeBox on March 30, 2010, 02:06:52 PM
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hi, i wanted to share Tom's (PianoGames) new video and in it he shows us some very interesting ideas about Lady Gaga's Telephone MV. Many people seem to think Lady Gaga is a puppet of the Illuminati but it's very possible she is trying to make people more aware of the Illuminati through her works. and also it's my personal opinion that Lady Gaga is definitely on MJ's side! i mean, working with Beyonce, and also doing a dance move that totally reminds me of MJ in Telephone. & of cos, more links mentioned in Tom's video.
PianoGames:
[youtube:1n84mzw8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr16NRfYO3w[/youtube:1n84mzw8]
Telephone: (watch from 4:30 for that move!)
[youtube:1n84mzw8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVBsypHzF3U[/youtube:1n84mzw8]
what do you guys think??
(Edit: sorry i know there's already a thread on Lady Gaga, Beyonce & MJ viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7187 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7187) , hoping this thread could start a discussion about the clues that Tom pointed out.)
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LOOK AT HER HAT AT 6:21 :shock:
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Great vid but I'm still not convinced about Lady Gaga...
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LOOK AT HER HAT AT 6:21 :shock:
it reminds me of origami... like on 6:26 of PianoGame's video which is the poster of the game Heavy Rain. might seem a lil too far fetched tho.
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My hands are itching to give my opinion about Lady Gaga :lol:
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I saw Lady Gaga and this is the last person I would like to see or hear
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Last week sometimes on LKL it said at the bottom of CNN "Do you think Lady Gaga is the next MJ"....What are you INSANE!!!
I dont even know how anyone can compare one to another - it's an insult!!!
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But she is very original and creative. It's very hard to do something creative these days when the world has literally seen EVERYTHING. She seems full of ideas. Michael certainly likes it. :)
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Last week sometimes on LKL it said at the bottom of CNN "Do you think Lady Gaga is the next MJ"....What are you INSANE!!!
I dont even know how anyone can compare one to another - it's an insult!!!
Saw that too but there is no other Michael Jackson than Michael Jackson, he just cannot be replaced.
Too much indency in Gaga's artistry for me, I just don't like it and cannot even watch her videos so even if Michael himself said that he likes what she is doing I would not agree with him on that point...sorry.
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Last week sometimes on LKL it said at the bottom of CNN "Do you think Lady Gaga is the next MJ"....What are you INSANE!!!
I dont even know how anyone can compare one to another - it's an insult!!!
Saw that too but there is no other Michael Jackson than Michael Jackson, he just cannot be replaced.
Too much indency in Gaga's artistry for me, I just don't like it and cannot even watch her videos so even if Michael himself said that he likes what she is doing I would not agree with him on that point...sorry.
Here, here!!! Nobody can come even close or touch MJ. I highly doubt he thinks she is anything special. To me she is here today and gone tomorrow. She isnt gonna be around dancing in 20 years I bet the farm on it!!!
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But she is very original and creative. It's very hard to do something creative these days when the world has literally seen EVERYTHING. She seems full of ideas. Michael certainly likes it. :)
I agree. Lady GaGa is very much like a young Michael Jackson in the sense that she is "out there" on her own creatively.
Remember a lot of people critisised MJ for being "wierd" as he was seen as effeminate and wore make up and sparkly clothes, etc, etc.. he was an original.
Im not getting into the debate over whether she is the "new" MJ as that is a non-argument.. both are their own people and Michael Jackson is Michael Jackson, and Lady GaGa is Lady GaGa.. but i know MJ admired Lady GaGa and wanted to work with her. He liked creativity and innovation and originality.
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But she is very original and creative. It's very hard to do something creative these days when the world has literally seen EVERYTHING. She seems full of ideas. Michael certainly likes it. :)
I agree. Lady GaGa is very much like a young Michael Jackson in the sense that she is "out there" on her own creatively.
Remember a lot of people critisised MJ for being "wierd" as he was seen as effeminate and wore make up and sparkly clothes, etc, etc.. he was an original.
Im not getting into the debate over whether she is the "new" MJ as that is a non-argument.. both are their own people and Michael Jackson is Michael Jackson, and Lady GaGa is Lady GaGa.. but i know MJ admired Lady GaGa and wanted to work with her. He liked creativity and innovation and originality.
I agree! :D
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IMO there's too much symbolism as could be understood as making irony of what a lot of other artists are a part of. I suspect Gaga is just very good at appearing as a puppet. IMO both Gaga and Beyoncé is both players on the lucky team!
And it's a great video! :)
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Oh, and is just me seeing the prison cams counting down through the video from
2/11/2010 00:02:03:27 ??
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Oh, and is just me seeing the prison cams counting down through the video from
2/11/2010 00:02:03:27 ??
Hi TinkerbellStardust, i definitely noticed the date 2/11/2010 (7) that's clear throughout Telephone, at which point of the video did you catch 00:02:03:27?? the timer keeps running and I got all blurry-eyed looking for it :X
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Lady Gaga is a HUGE MJ fan, trust me, if there's sides in this, she's on his.
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Last week sometimes on LKL it said at the bottom of CNN "Do you think Lady Gaga is the next MJ"....What are you INSANE!!!
I dont even know how anyone can compare one to another - it's an insult!!!
Saw that too but there is no other Michael Jackson than Michael Jackson, he just cannot be replaced.
Too much indency in Gaga's artistry for me, I just don't like it and cannot even watch her videos so even if Michael himself said that he likes what she is doing I would not agree with him on that point...sorry.
Here, here!!! Nobody can come even close or touch MJ. I highly doubt he thinks she is anything special. To me she is here today and gone tomorrow. She isnt gonna be around dancing in 20 years I bet the farm on it!!!
Michael and L. GaGa are completely different personalities...
[youtube:l8nl4p0x]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWMsFokdBWU[/youtube:l8nl4p0x]
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think some news will happen on 4th for nine theory thats wot its pointing to right? he wont come back not then he will in july like he said thats the only part played in this is it from his press conference or why else do it its like v for vandetta like man did on tv with the curtain its part of hoax we thought it looked like he wore a mask at conference like man did in v for vandetta coincedence! Things in film from conference played were ill perform songs fans wanna here then i love you then see you in july!!! and wow RESPECT to GA GA :)
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Erm...no. I think Michael is just one of Gaga's inspirations. Didn't you read that she was extremely upset and anxious after she heard about MJ's passing.
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Oh, and is just me seeing the prison cams counting down through the video from
2/11/2010 00:02:03:27 ??
Hi TinkerbellStardust, i definitely noticed the date 2/11/2010 (7) that's clear throughout Telephone, at which point of the video did you catch 00:02:03:27?? the timer keeps running and I got all blurry-eyed looking for it :X
I cant seem to figure out how to make screen shot :oops: . But.. If you pause the video above just between 1:38 and 1:39 - the excact time for when the yard cam recording is being shown. :)
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I NEVER thought Michael was wierd. He was so refreshingly interesting and different. He's unique. There is nobody like him. Without him the world would be so boring!!!
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I NEVER thought Michael was wierd. He was so refreshingly interesting and different. He's unique. There is nobody like him. Without him the world would be so boring!!!
Amen to that! :D
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According to different media Lady Gaga is now suffering from insomnia. The story makes me think of how Kenny O. on Oprah told that MJ could not sleep because he kept getting so many new ideas in his mind all the time.
Maybe Gaga should ease up on the Coke (Cola) ... :lol:
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/lady-gaga-cant-sleep_1137845
Lady Gaga Can't Sleep
Lady Gaga is so determined to please her fans, she can't sleep at night as she is constantly thinking about new ways to make them happy.
Lady Gaga is an insomniac.
The 'Telephone' singer is so caught up with fame she no longer thinks sensibly and is so worried what her fans thinks she struggles to get to sleep at night.
She said: "I'm already crazy. I'm a fearless person. I think it creeps up on you. I don't think it can be stopped. If my destiny is to lose my mind because of fame, then that's my destiny. But my passion still means more than anything.
"For some people, fame kills it and becomes more important than the music or the performance. But for me fame is like rocket fuel. The more my fans like what I'm doing, the more I want to give back to them. And my passion is so strong I can't sleep - I haven't slept for three days."
Despite her sleeping problems, Gaga refuses to take any medication to help her relax.
She said: "I lie in bed and try to pray and breathe. I have a very overactive mind. I'm the sort of person who'd never take medication to calm myself. It's maddening. But I love what comes out."
http://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/lady-gaga-can-t-sleep/6664282
Lady Gaga Can't Sleep
Boo-hoo. When you are caught in a groundswell of fame like Lady Gaga is, sleep is a luxury that is often ill-afforded. But Gaga can sleep when she is dead, because she is living such a fabulous life, she might as well stay awake for 24/7 as long as she can, since we all know fame is a fleeting mistress and she should enjoy being worshipped for as long as she can!
Various web outlets are reporting that Gaga is an admitted insomniac, a fate that befalls many creative types. She was reported as saying, "For some people fame kills it and become more important than the music or the performance. But for me fame is like rocket fuel. The more my fans like what I'm doing, the more I want to give back to them. And my passion is so strong I can't sleep. I haven't slept for three days."
Gaga clearly loves her fans, so love her back, since she sacrifices sleep for you.
What do you do when you can't sleep? Pop Ambien? Count sheep?
—Amy Sciarretto
04.06.10
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Many people seem to think Lady Gaga is a puppet of the Illuminati but it's very possible she is trying to make people more aware of the Illuminati through her works. and also it's my personal opinion that Lady Gaga is definitely on MJ's side!
I do think she is trying to make us aware of illuminati. The part in Telephone where she poisons the people in the diner. She is shown mixing it in some food and there is a list of ingredients. Maybe the food we eat? (that big bottle had a big M on it. Did it happen to have a J below it too?) She is dressed as some sort of Liberty figure, with her hair over one eye. The only eye shown is pretty big. The all watchful eye? Then goes and poisons the people. Right after that she's dancing in the diner dressed in "patriotic" garb.
The American flag. Maybe she is trying to tell us something??? I'm not sure, but was there a line that sounded like "blood on the dance floor" too during that dance????
Her MJ move was pretty good coming out of prison too!
I think there is something to her in all of this.
What do you think?????
Em
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My hands are itching to give my opinion about Lady Gaga :lol:
:lol:
I know right , some people are very delusional ... sad to see ...
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I still think she could be a puppet BUT she is very outspoken about being against the system & the administration. & in the telephone video she is holding up the A-Ok symbol which people say is the 666 symbol but on her wrist that shows is also the Peace symbol which as the person said is a form of the Anarchy symbolism, having no authority & was on MJ's shirt in the They Don't care about us video, as a symbol of protest. So maybe she is saying she is against them by having that symbol on her wrist while throwing up their (the illuminati)'s symbol? Just a thought. I'm constantly going back & forth when it comes to Gaga. Jay Z is one of them so Beyonce I think is lost but maybe Gaga is trying to reach her by working with her or they are the dynamic duo for the Illuminati, who knows. I'm confused still. *sigh*
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Many people seem to think Lady Gaga is a puppet of the Illuminati but it's very possible she is trying to make people more aware of the Illuminati through her works. and also it's my personal opinion that Lady Gaga is definitely on MJ's side!
I do think she is trying to make us aware of illuminati. The part in Telephone where she poisons the people in the diner. She is shown mixing it in some food and there is a list of ingredients. Maybe the food we eat? (that big bottle had a big M on it. Did it happen to have a J below it too?) She is dressed as some sort of Liberty figure, with her hair over one eye. The only eye shown is pretty big. The all watchful eye? Then goes and poisons the people. Right after that she's dancing in the diner dressed in "patriotic" garb.
The American flag. Maybe she is trying to tell us something??? I'm not sure, but was there a line that sounded like "blood on the dance floor" too during that dance????
Her MJ move was pretty good coming out of prison too!
I think there is something to her in all of this.
What do you think?????
Em
The diner scene and the one in prison reminds me of the movie Natural Born killers. Micky and Mallory..psychokillers.
Oh and enough 666 in the movie Natural killers as well.
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I didn't read all the posts so sorry if this got posted already here. I was at a lady gaga concert last week and just before she went on stage she played 4 straight mj songs before she went on. She either loves him so much that she plays him before she goes on or she wants to keep his music alive for the next generation. Either way....love her for it!!!
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I didn't read all the posts so sorry if this got posted already here. I was at a lady gaga concert last week and just before she went on stage she played 4 straight mj songs before she went on. She either loves him so much that she plays him before she goes on or she wants to keep his music alive for the next generation. Either way....love her for it!!!
Really?! Omg! I'm going to her concert on August 31st with one of my girls that also LOVES MJ it would be so awesome if she does this again!!! :D
We'll be screaming and dancing and singing so loud :lol:
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...........or she wants to make sure that she is ''riding his coat tails'....lets be perfectly honest here, Michael liked her music and the fact that she was creative so we are all told, but once his name gets attached to anything it is 'milked to death'. Lady Gaga would know this
I find this ' I cant sleep because of my fans' totally pretentious crap. It is the industry working the public as usual putting out silly statements and because Michael mentions a word of praise for her, everything then is hinged on Michael.
The point is that 'without Michael' a good percentage of todays artistes would be lost up their own bumhole searching for original ideas.
Someone hand them a torch!!
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The point is that 'without Michael' a good percentage of todays artistes would be lost up their own bumhole searching for original ideas.
Someone hand them a torch!!
Yeah like when he 'died' and suddenly EVERY SINGLE ARTIST IN THE BOOK was making statements on how he was their inspiration...
damn right he was your inspiration! But where were you before?! Literally artists that had never spoken a word of him before were saying now he was their inspiration. You never said nothing about it until now, cuz you think it'll make you cool or what?! It made me sick...
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Absolutely right!!
The Music industry and its artistes OWE Michael 'big time'. Make no mistake about that.
Lets think about Michael ( never mind Lady Ga Ga shes not as important) think about how he was and what he did. First of all lets talk about the industry. They want to 'package' artistes and pat them into a nice little shape like a block of butter because they make money out of that. They decide what goes out there and they decide what messages they want you to receive. When they have a good 'package' they take all the new artistes and they dress them up 'in that package' and flog it.
Most artistes once they taste a bit of fame, want to stay on top, so once they get the carrot they want the roast dinner so they are prepared to do ANYTHING to stay in the limelight including having stupid stuff written about them. A lot of the female artistes usually end up showing all their boobs bums and tums writhing about the place, the men on the other hand just have to be better looking and more agile then the one before.
All of them will 'talk their little script' to people, usually its banal rubbish that means absolutely nothing when they shut their front door, put their feet up and reach for a six pack and the tv. They do that as well you know.
Michael though he was,nt the normal 'pop star' - he was,nt going to bend down to the usual packaged nonsense, nor was George Michael and nor was Prince because they became very agitated about their record company and bailed out so they do have a bit of Michael about them when it comes to standing your ground for the MUSIC and NOT the fame attached to it.
Michael was genuinely interested in peoples welfare, he was genuinely interested in the environment and he genuinely was interested in people, his fans as well as animals and family matters. He was at all times, mostly himself. But the trouble with the industry is that they dont like people with any form of independent thinking.
So you see, Michael who was the greatest star of the last 40 years or more was a big problem to the industry because he was not going to kiss anyones ass.
So what they all did was allow other artistes to blatantly copy him and promote them constantly leaving Michael out in the cold. Those artistes would,nt like me for saying it, but where would they be without Michael, his style, his rhythm his phonomenal 'beauty' and 'grace' eh?
Did they all come to the press and say positive things about Michael when his trials came up? Did they hell - because they were out on the screen baby promoting their copied image of Michael - it was making them money. Its a pity Michael did not copyright every single thing about him because all of those artistes would have had to PAY to use his imagination instead of stealing it and then renaming it as 'INSPIRATION' -
I hate to say this but Michael Jackson is one Icon that is Never going to go away and nomatter how all these artistes imitate him the fact is, thats all they are, pale imitations of the greatest artiste that ever was for a very long time.
All I can say to them is 'eat your heart out' - no one can step in his shoes - and even if they sold them nobody could ever wear them with quite the same finesse.
Michael, the best artiste of our time - lets appreciate the truth of the real icon.
The fact is, there is nothing original anymore because it died the day Michael disappeared.
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LOOK AT HER HAT AT 6:21 :shock:
I know. That's a telephone receiver :D ;)
Very creative :D I like this vid :D
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Absolutely right!!
The Music industry and its artistes OWE Michael 'big time'. Make no mistake about that.
Lets think about Michael ( never mind Lady Ga Ga shes not as important) think about how he was and what he did. First of all lets talk about the industry. They want to 'package' artistes and pat them into a nice little shape like a block of butter because they make money out of that. They decide what goes out there and they decide what messages they want you to receive. When they have a good 'package' they take all the new artistes and they dress them up 'in that package' and flog it.
Most artistes once they taste a bit of fame, want to stay on top, so once they get the carrot they want the roast dinner so they are prepared to do ANYTHING to stay in the limelight including having stupid stuff written about them. A lot of the female artistes usually end up showing all their boobs bums and tums writhing about the place, the men on the other hand just have to be better looking and more agile then the one before.
All of them will 'talk their little script' to people, usually its banal rubbish that means absolutely nothing when they shut their front door, put their feet up and reach for a six pack and the tv. They do that as well you know.
Michael though he was,nt the normal 'pop star' - he was,nt going to bend down to the usual packaged nonsense, nor was George Michael and nor was Prince because they became very agitated about their record company and bailed out so they do have a bit of Michael about them when it comes to standing your ground for the MUSIC and NOT the fame attached to it.
Michael was genuinely interested in peoples welfare, he was genuinely interested in the environment and he genuinely was interested in people, his fans as well as animals and family matters. He was at all times, mostly himself. But the trouble with the industry is that they dont like people with any form of independent thinking.
So you see, Michael who was the greatest star of the last 40 years or more was a big problem to the industry because he was not going to kiss anyones ass.
So what they all did was allow other artistes to blatantly copy him and promote them constantly leaving Michael out in the cold. Those artistes would,nt like me for saying it, but where would they be without Michael, his style, his rhythm his phonomenal 'beauty' and 'grace' eh?
Did they all come to the press and say positive things about Michael when his trials came up? Did they hell - because they were out on the screen baby promoting their copied image of Michael - it was making them money. Its a pity Michael did not copyright every single thing about him because all of those artistes would have had to PAY to use his imagination instead of stealing it and then renaming it as 'INSPIRATION' -
I hate to say this but Michael Jackson is one Icon that is Never going to go away and nomatter how all these artistes imitate him the fact is, thats all they are, pale imitations of the greatest artiste that ever was for a very long time.
All I can say to them is 'eat your heart out' - no one can step in his shoes - and even if they sold them nobody could ever wear them with quite the same finesse.
Michael, the best artiste of our time - lets appreciate the truth of the real icon.
The fact is, there is nothing original anymore because it died the day Michael disappeared.
You said it soooo PERFECTLY! & it IS the TRUTH! Thanks for posting that. I say this all the time, there will NEVER be another Michael Jackson because he was, IS & will forever be the greatest entertainer alive or dead. No one could ever top that, especially when they're too busy trying to BE him! Which can't EVER be done either. I too wish he would've copyrighted everything. However, he probably had no idea that so many little puppets would parade around without any imagination, creativity or natural talent of their own & copy his every style, move, etc. & that it would actually SELL. A whole generation of imitators in the music industry & it will only get worse now that he's "gone". :roll:
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Just wanted to mention:
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Maybe she is breaking free from the illuminati/mkultra stuff?
or is this a false flag?
I have to think about this.
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But she is very original and creative. It's very hard to do something creative these days when the world has literally seen EVERYTHING. She seems full of ideas. Michael certainly likes it. :)
OMG please...i dont see what she creates except for bulls***. She pretends to be creative and would like poeple to see her as a genius but she is so cheap and daaaaaamn, so ridiculous. I am sorry but I can't deal with the fact that Michael could like Lady Gaga, or at least have respect for her.
I could also go on TV with a tanga on my head, socks as gloves, shoes that would look like a TV....and poeple would still call me creative?? Lady Gaga has surely talent but she doesnt show anything of it and she only act like a wannabe-genius.
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Lady Gaga likes MJ. She was talking about it in an interview, saying how much she is influenced by Michael.
[youtube:2uv0ch6j]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHrhB-JnWj0[/youtube:2uv0ch6j]
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I didn't read all the posts so sorry if this got posted already here. I was at a lady gaga concert last week and just before she went on stage she played 4 straight mj songs before she went on. She either loves him so much that she plays him before she goes on or she wants to keep his music alive for the next generation. Either way....love her for it!!!
Really?! Omg! I'm going to her concert on August 31st with one of my girls that also LOVES MJ it would be so awesome if she does this again!!! :D
We'll be screaming and dancing and singing so loud :lol:
Soooooo... I went to her concert last night. AND YOU WERE RIGHT! :D
She didnt play 4 she played 6!
1. human nature
2. dirty diana
3. PYT
4. billie jean
5. smooth criminal
6. beat it
I was singing and dancing like CRAZY in my seat! My friend was laughing and im almost positive everybody around me was staring at me :) :) at each song i would scream and be like OMG SHES PLAYING ANOTHER MJ SONG I LOVE HER THIS IS SO GREAT! :lol: but i dont care i LOVE proudly demonstrating my love for MJ hahaha when billie jean came on a lot of people on the floor started dancing. and there were screams and applause after each song :)
*oh and i was wrong in my prediction i guess, my friend was apparently too cool she just sat there and laughed at me she didnt dance along with me :P *
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Well, i am a fan of Lady Gaga, so i always thought she was NOT a illuminati puppet, but not only because i am a fan. As i said before, she is different... If she was a puppet she would not care to fight against many prejudice that happen to many people, and she would be a generic pop artist like many in this industry. So....
To be honest, i've been thinking for some time that Lady Gaga might be involved in this hoax, but i don't quite have any proofs... And, of course, Lady Gaga is on MJ's side, if she is on the hoax. She is a MJ admirer, and i think she would help him in any way she could. She seems to be a very kind person.
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She did seem to be very nice and very inspirational. She talked a lot to the audience and gave a lot of positive speeches. I don't exactly remember what she said but it was something along the lines of, "I know the media fucks with your mind a lot. But I don't ever want you to let anybody tell you that you aren't good enough, aren't thin enough, aren't pretty enough, aren't strong enough, aren't smart enough, (etc) You can be anything you want to be, you're a super star! My fans are better than anybody else's fans, and when you leave here tonight, I don't want you to love me more, I want you to leave here tonight loving yourselves more."
Throughout the night she said a lot of stuff along those lines. :)
She also brought up her charity a lot, which helps kids that have been thrown out of their houses by their parents because of their sexual orientation, and if you donated then you could enter your cell phone number and she would call a fan from the stage, during the show! It was amazing, I was SO jealous of the girl she called. She got to finish watching the show from the floor section and she got to meet her backstage afterwards! (It was a woman in her 20s who was there with her mom)