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Title: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 03, 2010, 12:12:16 PM
Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Originally posted 6 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

Joe Jackson is pissed at Michael Jackson's former best friend/doctor, Arnold Klein, for telling TMZ MJ was gay and had a relationship with Klein's office manager.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/05/03/0503-mj-joe-jackson-ex-getty-tmz-credit.jpg)

Joe railed at Klein, saying, "It's not true.  Michael was not gay."

Joe feels Klein has betrayed his son: "He has no respect for Michael ... to say things about him when he's gone is shameful."  

Jason Pfeiffer was on TV last week, claiming he had a sexual relationship with Michael, and Dr. Arnold Klein spoke of walking in on the two men and seeing them with their shirts off.  In the last few days, Dr. Klein has told TMZ Jackson was gay and had no problem with people knowing about it.

Joe Jackson went on, "He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."


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Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: Bee Bee on May 03, 2010, 12:21:14 PM
Wow, respect, Joe Jackson. And thank God there was nothing about how being gay is against the Bible.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: *Mo* on May 03, 2010, 12:28:16 PM
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Joe Jackson went on, "He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."

Is it just me, or it this a weird thing to say if it's about false accusations..?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: Loveneverfeltsogood on May 03, 2010, 12:35:28 PM
It's not only you, i also find it weird. If klein is telling lies he is not breaking any professionals vows but if Michael told him he was gay as a confidence between doctor and patient then..., but if this is true i doubt Joe would know about it.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: Puff on May 03, 2010, 12:36:13 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
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Joe Jackson went on, "He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."

Is it just me, or it this a weird thing to say if it's about false accusations..?


When I read that line my eyes were like these  :shock:  Why did he talked about professional vows if the whole story is false........? :arrow:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: simalves on May 03, 2010, 12:38:55 PM
It only means that Papa Joe reads the hoax forums. It was mentioned here earlier that AK should not talk about his patients like that as it was against the rules.

*Waves*
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: lisap27 on May 03, 2010, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote
Joe Jackson went on, "He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."

Is it just me, or it this a weird thing to say if it's about false accusations..?

you took the words out of my mouth!! :?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: CC on May 03, 2010, 01:02:03 PM
Quote from: "lisap27"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote
Joe Jackson went on, "He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."

Is it just me, or it this a weird thing to say if it's about false accusations..?

you took the words out of my mouth!! :?

MAYBE JOE KNOWS THAT A DOUBLE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS GUY AND MAYBE KLEIN ARE TALKING TOO MUCH AND IS A WAY TO SAY SHUT UP! KLEIN CAN´T SAY THAT A DOUBLE HAD A RELATIONSHIP THIS WOULD MAKE THE WORLD THINK.... :roll:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: ForstAMoon on May 03, 2010, 01:20:08 PM
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "lisap27"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote
Joe Jackson went on, "He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."

Is it just me, or it this a weird thing to say if it's about false accusations..?

you took the words out of my mouth!! :?

MAYBE JOE KNOWS THAT A DOUBLE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS GUY AND MAYBE KLEIN ARE TALKING TOO MUCH AND IS A WAY TO SAY SHUT UP! KLEIN CAN´T SAY THAT A DOUBLE HAD A RELATIONSHIP THIS WOULD MAKE THE WORLD THINK.... :roll:

or maybe the sentence was put of out context, we do not know what they have talked about during this conversation... hope we will learn more from TMZ Live
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: DancingTheDream on May 03, 2010, 01:28:47 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote
Joe Jackson went on, "He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."

Is it just me, or it this a weird thing to say if it's about false accusations..?

I think he is talking about how Klein has talked about an encounter in his office, when he saw Michael shirtless with Jason.
Apparently this happened because Michael feared he had skin cancer and took his shirt off to show the blotches...  

therefore Klein has broken doctor confidentiality rules concerning details of examinations in his office.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: paula-c on May 03, 2010, 02:29:24 PM
Well, first Joe says this:

Joe railed at Klein, saying, "It's not true. Michael was not gay."

Joe feels Klein has betrayed his son: "He has no respect for Michael ... to say things about him when he's gone is shameful."

This story will continue, we must see what kind of votes referred Joe 8-)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: Grace on May 03, 2010, 02:41:48 PM
This is one more piece of the "professional ethics standard" thingie.
It perfectly fits into the moral clover leaf.

I can't withdraw from the impression that the hoax is a public education / edutainment project and one of the goals is teaching the gone lost again how to tell "right" from "wrong".
Like illuminating a path into the right direction.
In short: "learn and have fun". Some master teaching.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: lovemj4everandever on May 03, 2010, 02:43:28 PM
My interpretation is that he broke his vow to his patient by prescribing medications under various aliases for MJ which Michael did not medically need.  He also performed many procedures on Michael that Michael did not need and were not medically necessary.  He broke his hippocratic oath to "do no harm."  I've always thought this was connected to a prescription drug sting.  Anyway, that's how I interpret Joe's words.  I don't think MJ is gay and I don't think that is what Joe meant.  ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: jill on May 03, 2010, 03:29:05 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote
Joe Jackson went on, "He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."

Is it just me, or it this a weird thing to say if it's about false accusations..?

I think he is talking about how Klein has talked about an encounter in his office, when he saw Michael shirtless with Jason.
Apparently this happened because Michael feared he had skin cancer and took his shirt off to show the blotches...  

therefore Klein has broken doctor confidentiality rules concerning details of examinations in his office.

That was exactly what I thought!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: JukeBox on May 03, 2010, 03:40:24 PM
Quote from: "jill"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote
Joe Jackson went on, "He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."

Is it just me, or it this a weird thing to say if it's about false accusations..?

I think he is talking about how Klein has talked about an encounter in his office, when he saw Michael shirtless with Jason.
Apparently this happened because Michael feared he had skin cancer and took his shirt off to show the blotches...  

therefore Klein has broken doctor confidentiality rules concerning details of examinations in his office.

That was exactly what I thought!

I agree. Besides, what has being SHIRTLESS got to do with being homosexual?! That's such a stupid thing to say.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on May 03, 2010, 07:49:50 PM
Joe feels Klein has betrayed his son: "He HAS no respect for Michael ... to say things about him when he's gone is shameful."

Does "has" mean to be stated in the present tense, or in the after-life?  :? :shock:  :o
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: CrazyBanana on May 03, 2010, 10:25:53 PM
[youtube:2bpjt3tf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zujf9gbs-Rs[/youtube:2bpjt3tf]

had to post this...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: loma on May 03, 2010, 11:09:01 PM
And I LOVE how he says "Gone" 8-) Not dead, desceased,passed away...
Thanks Joe! ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: darkchild on May 04, 2010, 12:37:11 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote
Joe Jackson went on, "He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."

Is it just me, or it this a weird thing to say if it's about false accusations..?

I think he is talking about how Klein has talked about an encounter in his office, when he saw Michael shirtless with Jason.
Apparently this happened because Michael feared he had skin cancer and took his shirt off to show the blotches...  

therefore Klein has broken doctor confidentiality rules concerning details of examinations in his office.

That makes logical sense to me.  Thanks and God bless you, DancingTheDream. xxx

Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
 by loma » Tue May 04, 2010 4:09 am

And I LOVE how he says "Gone"  Not dead, desceased,passed away...
Thanks Joe!

I agree! It is like when the nurse told Frank in the hospital that MJ was gone, instead of the nurse saying that he was dead.(AJ Documentary) Thanks, Papa Joe! 8-)  God bless you, Loma!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: hope on May 04, 2010, 12:50:31 AM
I dont believe Michael is gay (except how Souza explains it  :lol: ), but regardless of the situation, it's nice to see Joe defending his son.  :)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: Good Lets Dance on May 04, 2010, 01:10:08 AM
I am sensing Desperation from Arnie Swine: He has been featured on TMZ so many times since 6/25/09 "Exposing" his Super Star Patient...Do you really think he is getting any NEW patients Now? Do you think maybe any other *Celebrity* Patients he had are Jumping Ship for fear he may Expose them if they too become Media Fodder? (I had read somewhere that Liz Taylor had referred MJ to Arnie) Do you think celebs of her caliber are going to choose him as their Dermo anymore? This Guy is History Now! His only income is his imaginary stories he can feed to Tabloid TV shows. No Hollywood Celeb is EVER going to Trust him. I predict he is going to keep coming out with more and more Desperate attempts to Publicize his relationship with the KOP and it will get seedier and skankier. Arnie Swine - We are ONTO YOU! You and your Jason are the Gay Lovers, so Cash it In and Retire! You are DONE!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 04, 2010, 01:53:23 AM
Well I think Arnie is a bit weird.  I don't think I can trust him.  I have followed him on twitter for a while now.  These are his latest tweets.  A few weeks ago, he defends MJ and says he is needle phobic.  Is this to protect himself???  Turn the attention away from him, because I believe Debbie Rowe told the truth about him.  He did supply drugs to MJ.  Arnie also follows Havey Levin from TMZ.

This is the necklace Dr AK wears................
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: teine21 on May 04, 2010, 03:48:18 AM
He probably just worded it wrong. He probably meant to say he shouldn't be out there spreading lies about a patient. But instead mixed it up & made it seem like he was saying something else. I don't think he meant that MJ had told Klein he was gay & thus Arnie was breaking his professional vows, I highly doubt Joe would know if MJ was gay. I don't think MJ would have told him. & I doubt Katherine would tell him either if MJ trusted her with his secret. That would be something he would've kept private I think. Although, I don't know because I don't know him. However, I think the story is completely fabricated to get money seeing as how Arnie has already tried to get the estate to pay him several times. & I don't believe MJ was gay, not that it matters because it doesn't. But he has said many, many times that he isn't gay. He has said he doesn't mind if people think he's gay because he has gay fans so he's not offended by it but that he is not gay. I would believe MJ before I would ever try to believe Arnie Klein or anyone involved with him. jmo.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: clea on May 04, 2010, 06:53:22 AM
Quote from: "loma"
And I LOVE how he says "Gone" 8-) Not dead, desceased,passed away...
Thanks Joe! ;)
When I talk to my parents, I say they are "gone" I can not use the word "death", perhaps it's the same for Joe?  :(
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: Kirsche on May 04, 2010, 11:47:35 AM
I really think the gay- stories are lies!

A doctor is not allowed to talk about his patients that way....

what about medical confidentiality??

Does Klein have some special rights?? This guy pisses me off   :evil:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on May 04, 2010, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote
Joe Jackson went on, "He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."

Is it just me, or it this a weird thing to say if it's about false accusations..?
No it´s not just you!  I wondered as well...
If it´s so false...why mentioning the vow?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: Figment on May 04, 2010, 09:27:36 PM
I see what you're saying, but also consider that a doctor has no business speaking about a patient's personal life in any way. Any breach of patient confidentiality is a betrayal, especially when the doctor is also supposed to be a friend.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: michaelsupporter on May 04, 2010, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: "Figment"
I see what you're saying, but also consider that a doctor has no business speaking about a patient's personal life in any way. Any breach of patient confidentiality is a betrayal, especially when the doctor is also supposed to be a friend.

Not to mention illegal too!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: msteetee34 on May 05, 2010, 03:58:05 AM
I bet Arnie Klein is probably the one who is actually gay.  You can't say someone is gay just because he had his shirt off, which is what Klein is saying.  That sounds idiotic.  If that's the case all these dudes going to the gym playing ball shirtless must be gay.  Basketball players slap each other butts somtimes as a way of giving props to each other.  Does that mean they're gay no.  Females go to the bathroom together all the time does that make them gay no.  I don't blame Joe for saying something about this story if it's not true.  Klein need to keep his big mouth closed.  I believe he is trying to cover his own behind.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 05, 2010, 06:01:48 AM
For goodness sake.....MJ was at a Dermatology Clinic....of course he needed to take his shirt off.  That's where his skin is  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P ......

Tabloid junk.....made up,  re-arranged,   twisted  crap.  That's all it is, so we musn't read too much into it...

I would take off my shirt too if I was in the same room as Michael.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  

As always, with L.O.V.E  xoxox
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: paula-c on May 05, 2010, 10:39:27 AM
Very well said 2good2btrue ... what if I am with my gynecologist ,.... and suddenly enters your nurse or assistant, and I'm almost naked ...  :!:  :o My God he thought of me and my doctor that nurse .... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: CC on May 05, 2010, 10:46:21 AM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Very well said 2good2btrue ... what if I am with my gynecologist ,.... and suddenly enters your nurse or assistant, and I'm almost naked ...  :!:  :o My God he thought of me and my doctor that nurse .... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

LOL!
REALLY LOL!
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: hesouttamylife on May 05, 2010, 05:19:55 PM
and I guess Joe would know since he went way out of his way to make sure that none of his boys would have to guess what goes on between a man and a woman at a very early age.  It was almost abuse to have those boys witnessing the things they did in their pre and early teens.  Shame on Joe for that one.  He should be counting his blessings that it didn't backfire and go the opposite way.  It very well could have.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: chappie on May 05, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
Well I agree with Joe on this one.
His son was not gay (happy) at all with that kind of .... people around him.
Chap
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Dad -- 'He Was Not Gay'
Post by: loma on May 05, 2010, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
...It was almost abuse to have those boys witnessing the things they did in their pre and early teens.  Shame on Joe for that one.
God forbid if that Prostitute story is true. :(
Don't get me wrong, he was a great father, but some of the things he did are unforgiveable.
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