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Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"Again, I find it fishy, because the day of his funeral Micheal got disguised as DAVE DAVE. so it means I have doubt about this person. Just my opinion.I understand but I still wonder if there is still more to this that we yet still don't understand.
Again, I find it fishy, because the day of his funeral Micheal got disguised as DAVE DAVE. so it means I have doubt about this person. Just my opinion.
Quote from: "Infinitylady"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"Again, I find it fishy, because the day of his funeral Micheal got disguised as DAVE DAVE. so it means I have doubt about this person. Just my opinion.I understand but I still wonder if there is still more to this that we yet still don't understand. Infinitylady, I have very strong faith in God, I may be repeating myself again, I don't know if you know about me, I have intuition. I wrote a thread about it. When I read that person's blog, I felt the same way like you did. I was upset that one of his brother's may be involved. I know that Jermaine is jealous of MJ, but not to that point of kidnapping. Two night ago, I was thinking, and believe it or not a little voice inside of me (usually the little voice is the good lord) told me otherwise. Told me that MJ was not kidnapped nor his brother was in it. It came to me if he was kidnapped or as they said the bad people dug his hole (figure of speech) how did he go to LKL as Dave Dave. Why would Jermaine make slip ups saying he left us way before he went to to the airport? You see things like that does not make sense. I do not know any details just like yourself, but I strongly believe that Michael planned his hoax, for a good cause. We will know once he comes back. blessings.
I missed something. Who is Carmen?What´s the theory? Michael being kidnapped? Don´t think so.Michael needed to pay back and to make money again to support his legacy, his business and kids, to secure their future.Michael may be was not open to the idea of faking his death and it is probable that Jemaine´s contacts and Michael´s business advisors came to the conclusion of having a quick solution, "Killing" Michael.Many times he said that he was more worth dead than alive, and that has been proved after June 25th 2009. Sales high to the sky, Michael´s name being cleared up, Michael earning respect back, Michael being recognize by his life achievements within the industry and his humanitarian contributions as well as gaining old fans and supporters back and getting new ones.His death has been a rebirth.May be Michael was not happy with the procedures or the way has been done, and even if think that he feared for his life, faking his death has been positive for him.We love him unconditionally, so as soon as he comes back (if ever) he should know that here we are with open arms.
She speaks of a friend of a friend, Carmen. There was a Carmen speaking of kidnapping on a Thaiindian page, but some of her posts got deleted as some other posters said. I am not sure if she means her or someone else.
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"Quote from: "Infinitylady"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"Again, I find it fishy, because the day of his funeral Micheal got disguised as DAVE DAVE. so it means I have doubt about this person. Just my opinion.I understand but I still wonder if there is still more to this that we yet still don't understand. Infinitylady, I have very strong faith in God, I may be repeating myself again, I don't know if you know about me, I have intuition. I wrote a thread about it. When I read that person's blog, I felt the same way like you did. I was upset that one of his brother's may be involved. I know that Jermaine is jealous of MJ, but not to that point of kidnapping. Two night ago, I was thinking, and believe it or not a little voice inside of me (usually the little voice is the good lord) told me otherwise. Told me that MJ was not kidnapped nor his brother was in it. It came to me if he was kidnapped or as they said the bad people dug his hole (figure of speech) how did he go to LKL as Dave Dave. Why would Jermaine make slip ups saying he left us way before he went to to the airport? You see things like that does not make sense. I do not know any details just like yourself, but I strongly believe that Michael planned his hoax, for a good cause. We will know once he comes back. blessings.Going back to the site, there is nothing saying anything about his brother kidnapping MJ.
Quote from: "Infinitylady"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"Quote from: "Infinitylady"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"Again, I find it fishy, because the day of his funeral Micheal got disguised as DAVE DAVE. so it means I have doubt about this person. Just my opinion.I understand but I still wonder if there is still more to this that we yet still don't understand. Infinitylady, I have very strong faith in God, I may be repeating myself again, I don't know if you know about me, I have intuition. I wrote a thread about it. When I read that person's blog, I felt the same way like you did. I was upset that one of his brother's may be involved. I know that Jermaine is jealous of MJ, but not to that point of kidnapping. Two night ago, I was thinking, and believe it or not a little voice inside of me (usually the little voice is the good lord) told me otherwise. Told me that MJ was not kidnapped nor his brother was in it. It came to me if he was kidnapped or as they said the bad people dug his hole (figure of speech) how did he go to LKL as Dave Dave. Why would Jermaine make slip ups saying he left us way before he went to to the airport? You see things like that does not make sense. I do not know any details just like yourself, but I strongly believe that Michael planned his hoax, for a good cause. We will know once he comes back. blessings.Going back to the site, there is nothing saying anything about his brother kidnapping MJ.it says and one of his brother is in it. something like that.
ok let me see if i have this straight.carmen and all for love think mike was kidnapped. esther thinks he got away . but that he is trapped by the circumstances of hoaxers believing that he is responsible for the hoax and it is sony ect. and that he will be in legal trouble to return.is that it?
Events That Led To the ‘Missing’ of Michael Jackson – God Reveals – 3 (“he was forced to hoax his death”)Filed under: From God's Heart by "Esther" — 3 CommentsJanuary 13, 2011
Esther has written one single post here on the forum, introducing herself shortly and referring to her blog (to be found in the section: Other theories, on 3rd January 2011)She said that she had a dream one year ago (18th January 2010) about Michael's situation and didn't know how to begin with to get the message through (to us).QuoteEvents That Led To the ‘Missing’ of Michael Jackson – God Reveals – 3 (“he was forced to hoax his death”)Filed under: From God's Heart by "Esther" — 3 CommentsJanuary 13, 2011 This is the passage in which she described Carmen's version of the effects of Propofol, given to an already dead person. Now I am sure she speaks of the Carmen who wrote a lot in the Thaiindian paper, who had repeatedly said to have received serious threats if she continued researching. She had always claimed, she had quite substantial proof of her findings and kept them safe somewhere. Suddenly she stopped posting and now we hear she is a friend of a friend, so she is still around and Esther knows this board. It can be assumed, she reads here and can tell Carmen about it. I remember there was a discussion, Carmen didn't want to join a board for various personal reasons. Esther's (and Carmen's?) theory would be: A dead body, but Michael aliveA brother involved, savior in the endMichael can only come back, when people don't think, he hoaxed his deathI just don't know if I fully comprehend the message and theory.Does it mean, he survived and someone else died / was murdered?Another theory again, not a new one, but not yet dead.And what is de troot? Murray is no help either.Reading Esther's blog with all the religious references and God's guidance make me think of fables with animals telling the story. By slipping into a role (of an animal like a fox or cat or whatever) and not writing in their own words, authors were able to convey a message in a subliminal way, without getting in danger of being persecuted if they spoke of unwanted truth which had to remain hidden from the evil-doers' perspective. God knows everything, he knows the truth. So if she claims to have received the message through him, she doesn't say, she knows, but God, and God cannot be attacked. She may be afraid and fear not to be protected enough or have enough evidence or power to present her theory as the truth.She seems confident with Michael being alive, whereas Carmen's theory was more of the kidnapping and Michael still being in danger, or even the unthinkable. But Michael as Dave Dave on Larry King Live and so on and so on, nothing adds up. Everything is just so strange. What a journey. A criminal case, witness protection program, a hoax, a hoax of a hoax, a cover-up, a movie, a BAM planned, an unsolved puzzle (forever?) How should a judge find out the ultimate truth and justice if an army of fans researching their butts off have gained a lot of knowledge and personal growth, but still haven't found the answer to the question of all questions.