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I am not trying to argue with you or anyone else, I see things differently on the whole twin/doubles theory and no evidence has been provided to change my mind. If there is irrefutable evidence that supports such claims than I will accept that but so far, that isn't and hasn't been the case.
There has been no evidence posted that there is anything factual as the basis to this "theory". Nor have those proposing this theory, ever provided any credible reasons as to why the family would have hidden a twin or lied about Brandon's death. Without substantiating evidence, this theory has no support, no basis in fact, nothing to stand on.
Credible reason for who? you?What about your research on MJ=Messiah? Credible reasons? A theory supported? on what basis then? That Michael wanted to protay himself as "something" does not mean he is that "something". Just as an example.
If a theory can not stand up to scrutiny than that theory must be revised. If a theory has no factual basis, than it is a factual error. If the theory is based on an error of reasoning, than it is a fallacy. Either way, it is not supported and therefore must be either revised or discarded.
People are having views and opinions, wow, you are taking this too serious :?
An argument consists of one or more premises and one conclusion. A premise is a statement (a sentence that is either true or false) that is offered in support of the claim being made, which is the conclusion (which is also a sentence that is either true or false). There are two main types of arguments
The lesson is appreciated :roll: , however, I don´t think that people are here to be teach about how to build up or approach or use an argument academically.Opinions are opinions based on perception and experience as well, and there are no rules on what glasses people should wear to have just an opinion.
A fallacy
Could be, but really, who cares!? Freedom of expression is the key and as far as I could see, no one is being disrespectful. Why so defensive on this matter? :shock:
I agree, but also I got a question. Would a stillborn have a birth certificate on the 1st place? We are talking about the 50´s.
No, I simply showing how the twin/doubles theory has no basis in fact.
This was again about the theory itself being a fallacy and not about personal opinions. It has nothing to do with anything personal or opinions, it is the twin/doubles theory which is flawed and can't stand up to scrutiny.
Of course everyone is free to express themselves but so am I
When a theory has no basis in fact, when it can not be supported by evidence than it is not a valid theory. If people want to believe in a theory that is full of holes and more fantasy that fact, that is fine but I am free to point out the flaws in such theories.
Quote from: "Gema"I agree, but also I got a question. Would a stillborn have a birth certificate on the 1st place? We are talking about the 50´s.Birth & Death Certificates were not issued for stillborn babies in the 1950's in the US. Around the year 2000, new legislation was introduced in some states and they started issuing certificates for the stillborn child, if parents requested them.
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"No, I simply showing how the twin/doubles theory has no basis in fact.But you jump to the theories posted on the forum when the argument is about an open opinion regarding "Brandon", not a theory. QuoteThis was again about the theory itself being a fallacy and not about personal opinions. It has nothing to do with anything personal or opinions, it is the twin/doubles theory which is flawed and can't stand up to scrutiny.My comment about Brandon was not pointing towards any double to start with.The theories regarding doubles in TII can be flawed in your opinion but to the eye, those "michaels" look very different to each other and there is a possibility that doubles were used, as Joe also pointed to.QuoteOf course everyone is free to express themselves but so am IAnd you do it quite often Pauline, but I don´t see you as tolerant when others express theirs. I find your approach quite aggressive at times to be honest.QuoteWhen a theory has no basis in fact, when it can not be supported by evidence than it is not a valid theory. If people want to believe in a theory that is full of holes and more fantasy that fact, that is fine but I am free to point out the flaws in such theories.Of course, I appreciate that and I am not telling you to do the opposite. It is good and positive to point out at flaws to reach the goal, is a team work and every single person has an imput I believe, every one can bring something to the table, but doing it in a constructive manner would be more appreciated :lol:
Quote from: "Gema"Quote from: "Grace"OK, I never was interested in Oprah and I am not going to be, I'm afraid, but let me please sort this out:And doesn't that sound somewhat like Michael Joseph dying of drug overdose and Michael Joe coming back to life as the hidden half-brother I had the same thought, but with the brother "Brandon". May be Brandon did not die on the 1st place.And why would the Jackson family hide any twin, of any of their children, from birth?Why would they lie about the death of Brandon?What would that have accomplished?When the children were being born, the family was poor and they didn't know that they would eventually be as famous as they became.I am sorry but for me, this doesn't make any sense at all.
Quote from: "Grace"OK, I never was interested in Oprah and I am not going to be, I'm afraid, but let me please sort this out:And doesn't that sound somewhat like Michael Joseph dying of drug overdose and Michael Joe coming back to life as the hidden half-brother I had the same thought, but with the brother "Brandon". May be Brandon did not die on the 1st place.
OK, I never was interested in Oprah and I am not going to be, I'm afraid, but let me please sort this out:And doesn't that sound somewhat like Michael Joseph dying of drug overdose and Michael Joe coming back to life as the hidden half-brother
Please show me where I have been disrespectful to you
How have I not been constructive? I am who I am and I express myself as I do.If you feel my posts are not constructive or whatever put me on ignore and you won't have to read them
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"Please show me where I have been disrespectful to youI did not talk about respect, I talked about your aggressive approach lately, and the post under confirms it.QuoteHow have I not been constructive? I am who I am and I express myself as I do.If you feel my posts are not constructive or whatever put me on ignore and you won't have to read themI have nothing more to say on this respect Pauline :|
Whether Brandon truly died or has been somehow involved as a Michael double, I'm sure that details are slowly being revealed to us
But I don't rule out the twin theory simply because there's something going on that we haven't nailed down yet. I want to keep both eyes open and not miss a thing. 8-)