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Title: shoes
Post by: the arabian nights on April 25, 2010, 07:11:27 AM
this has bothering me since i went to the 02 exhibition

the stage shoes mike was due to wear they dont seen that comfortable for the moves etc

http://www.businessoffashion.com/wp-con ... -Shoes.jpg (http://www.businessoffashion.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Michael-Jackson-by-Zaldy-4-Shoes.jpg)
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: somekindofsign on April 25, 2010, 07:29:04 AM
But it´s all vinyl inside  ;)

They are all really beautiful, aren´t they?
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Jacksonology on April 25, 2010, 08:00:46 AM
Well the costume designer Zaldy said they were custom made for Michael. since He never had shoes custom-made for Him.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: mykidsmum on April 25, 2010, 08:04:47 AM
I think that is because they are unworn...un broken in.  I'm sure they would have been comfortable.  But if you look at the ball of the foot area, it is very wide.  It was made to the shape of MJ's foot.  I dont think they would have needed much wearing in.
any one know what brand of Loafers MJ wore on a regular basis?  I could google it but maybe someone knows already?
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: the arabian nights on April 25, 2010, 02:49:31 PM
the sandals would cut your feet up

a world tour in these or even 50 shows nope
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: somekindofsign on April 25, 2010, 03:11:09 PM
arabian I think they are not sandals, but the vinyl make them seem so.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: the arabian nights on April 25, 2010, 03:17:08 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
arabian I think they are not sandals, but the vinyl make them seem so.

i think there are two clear jelly shoes with big stones on them.

when i went to the 02 i saw the only one of the hard jelly plastic sandals, they are sandals

they would rip your feet up - they are like glass slippers - made of plastic eek
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: somekindofsign on April 25, 2010, 03:20:03 PM
Ah, you saw it... then nothing to say  ;)
I´m just talking from a pic.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: the arabian nights on April 25, 2010, 03:28:27 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Ah, you saw it... then nothing to say  ;)
I´m just talking from a pic.

we also did not have the full dress rehearsal... just so many not done yets

shoes not broken in

mangle feet sandals not tested

clothes not worn - to see if they function - and that he can dance with tower blocks on his shoulders?
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Dancing_Machine on April 25, 2010, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
the sandals would cut your feet up

a world tour in these or even 50 shows nope

Those are not sandals, but loafers with bling bling on them.  :)
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: somekindofsign on April 25, 2010, 03:44:05 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
the sandals would cut your feet up

a world tour in these or even 50 shows nope

Those are not sandals, but loafers with bling bling on them.  :)

What´s bling bling Dancing_Machine?
I´m having to search many words from this thread  :lol:
That, I can´t even found it...
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: mumof3 on April 25, 2010, 03:45:55 PM
I saw them at the02 and they looked hard uncomfortable and small
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Dancing_Machine on April 25, 2010, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
the sandals would cut your feet up

a world tour in these or even 50 shows nope

Those are not sandals, but loafers with bling bling on them.  :)

What´s bling bling Dancing_Machine?
I´m having to search many words from this thread  :lol:
That, I can´t even found it...

 :lol: I mean those shiny stones
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: somekindofsign on April 25, 2010, 04:07:11 PM
Thank  :lol: you  :lol: Dancing!
Is that a made up word?
I love doing that!
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: the arabian nights on April 25, 2010, 04:10:20 PM
Quote from: "mumof3"
I saw them at the02 and they looked hard uncomfortable and small

yeap
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: mikestanek1 on April 25, 2010, 04:17:49 PM
Yeah....guarantee he was never going to wear any of these.  Well I can't guarantee that =P but it is highly unlikely, no?  And Zaldy said they were custom made so that the insides matched his old worn in ones....these don't look like they are any different from brand new shoes on the inside.  Just for show if you ask me.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: the arabian nights on April 25, 2010, 04:27:49 PM
the other tour clothes he wore were at the exhibition well some, the gold stuff for example (girls dont faint)

 but that out fit and may others like the remember the time outfit look very flexible

the new stuff looked very tight and restrictive
they are nice suits but they are suits

just makes me think about the shows - still feels a little

i mine we have valentino saying he was booked, we have mike sorting everyone out in rehearsal, we have lightman not ready, non of the stuff there, mike needing his 2nd med test to do the 20 additional shows from the first test, and maybe a further for the world tour, we have th shoes that would kill your feet, the props not being shipped or cargo jet flown,

sometimes it sees it was all go and other times it seems like such a hoax
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: loma on April 25, 2010, 04:33:13 PM
I wouldn't wear those if they paid me.
I love being barefoot, and just.. cringe when I see those.
Didn't Michael have big feet? How would he get into those anyways? They seem so small.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: awesome1 on April 25, 2010, 04:52:12 PM
Quote from: "loma"
I wouldn't wear those if they paid me.
I love being barefoot, and just.. cringe when I see those.
Didn't Michael have big feet? How would he get into those anyways? They seem so small.

 i thought he was a size 6 ???
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: loma on April 25, 2010, 05:40:50 PM
Quote from: "awesome1"

 i thought he was a size 6 ???
:shock:
I didn't know.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: awesome1 on April 25, 2010, 05:44:49 PM
Quote from: "loma"
Quote from: "awesome1"

 i thought he was a size 6 ???
:shock:
I didn't know.

woops stand corrected...... he was a US 9.5... Still quite small  :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: loma on April 25, 2010, 06:06:46 PM
Quote from: "awesome1"

woops stand corrected...... he was a US 9.5... Still quite small  :lol:
:lol:
It's okay. Thanks.
I knew he his feet weren't THAT little.  :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Venus on April 25, 2010, 07:07:53 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
this has bothering me since i went to the 02 exhibition

the stage shoes mike was due to wear they dont seen that comfortable for the moves etc

http://www.businessoffashion.com/wp-con ... -Shoes.jpg (http://www.businessoffashion.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Michael-Jackson-by-Zaldy-4-Shoes.jpg)

Hi! Can you tell what is his foot size?  :|
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: loma on April 25, 2010, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: "Venus"
Hi! Can you tell what is his foot size?  :|
Quote from: "awesome1"
he was a US 9.5... Still quite small  :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: YoungNewMJFan on April 25, 2010, 07:38:05 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Thank  :lol: you  :lol: Dancing!
Is that a made up word?
I love doing that!

It's slang in the U.S. for like shiny things, necklaces, bracelets, rings, earrings, and even the shiny stones on the shoes :D

Also here are a few more pics of the shoes. :)

[attachment=0:3az0rvps]ThisisitShoes.jpg[/attachment:3az0rvps]
[attachment=1:3az0rvps]OpenActShoes2.jpg[/attachment:3az0rvps]
[attachment=2:3az0rvps]OpenActShoes.jpg[/attachment:3az0rvps]
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: SEHF on April 25, 2010, 07:41:44 PM
These are obviously doubles of the real shoes!
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: somekindofsign on April 25, 2010, 07:59:59 PM
Also shoes have doubles?  :lol:  Sorry!
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: YoungNewMJFan on April 25, 2010, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: "SEHF"
These are obviously doubles of the real shoes!

And your proof they are fake?
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: awesome1 on April 25, 2010, 08:23:22 PM
Quote from: "YoungNewMJFan"
Quote from: "SEHF"
These are obviously doubles of the real shoes!

And your proof they are fake?

well since 2 of every outfit was made  :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: somekindofsign on April 25, 2010, 08:26:10 PM
So how we know which one is the authentic?
Both would be...
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: loveratheart4mj on April 25, 2010, 08:34:16 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
the sandals would cut your feet up

a world tour in these or even 50 shows nope


I think those ones that looked kinda like sandles were Silver in color and you just couldnt see the top of the shoe real well. I think they were silver with rhinestone studs. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: YoungNewMJFan on April 25, 2010, 08:42:32 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
So how we know which one is the authentic?
Both would be...

Exactly.. :?
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Venus on April 25, 2010, 08:54:57 PM
I'd rather fake my death than wear this vinyl shoes! :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: OneLove on April 25, 2010, 09:08:20 PM
So you're saying those are the doppelgangers of the real ones? lol
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: YoungNewMJFan on April 25, 2010, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: "OneLove"
So you're saying those are the doppelgangers of the real ones? lol

lol exactly xD

anyway how do you know 2 of every outift was made?
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: loma on April 25, 2010, 09:12:09 PM
Quote from: "Venus"
I'd rather fake my death than wear this vinil shoes! :lol:
*high five*
Me too. Ugh
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: awesome1 on April 26, 2010, 04:15:19 PM
Quote from: "YoungNewMJFan"
Quote from: "OneLove"
So you're saying those are the doppelgangers of the real ones? lol

lol exactly xD

anyway how do you know 2 of every outift was made?

Zaldy mentioned in TII that he had a limited time to make the outfits and all their copies...
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: whatyourheartsays on April 26, 2010, 04:18:27 PM
Quote from: "Venus"
I'd rather fake my death than wear this vinyl shoes! :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on April 26, 2010, 04:21:36 PM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
Quote from: "Venus"
I'd rather fake my death than wear this vinyl shoes! :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 :mrgreen:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Dancing_Machine on April 26, 2010, 04:23:51 PM
Quote from: "Venus"
I'd rather fake my death than wear this vinyl shoes! :lol:

:lol:

Like we, the ladies, aren't used to wear very uncomfortable shoes like high heels  :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Dancing_Machine on April 26, 2010, 04:25:59 PM
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6409)

Those blue ones would look very sexy on Michael...*sigh*  :oops:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: awesome1 on April 26, 2010, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6409)

Those blue ones would look very sexy on Michael...*sigh*  :oops:

i want the Red ones  :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Venus on April 26, 2010, 04:43:44 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "Venus"
I'd rather fake my death than wear this vinyl shoes! :lol:

:lol:

Like we, the ladies, aren't used to wear very uncomfortable shoes like high heels  :lol:

true ;)
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: awesome1 on April 26, 2010, 04:49:56 PM
Quote from: "Venus"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "Venus"
I'd rather fake my death than wear this vinyl shoes! :lol:

:lol:

Like we, the ladies, aren't used to wear very uncomfortable shoes like high heels  :lol:

true ;)

Hey !  :lol:  Mens shoes aernt exactly comfortable either.....
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: YoungNewMJFan on April 26, 2010, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: "awesome1"
Quote from: "YoungNewMJFan"
Quote from: "OneLove"
So you're saying those are the doppelgangers of the real ones? lol

lol exactly xD

anyway how do you know 2 of every outift was made?

Zaldy mentioned in TII that he had a limited time to make the outfits and all their copies...

K thanks :) Just wondering because I had never heard that before :D
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Jacksonology on April 26, 2010, 10:56:26 PM
is it me or do these:(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6408) resemble the shoes in this pic:(http://illusion.scene360.com/wp-content/themes/sahara-10/submissions/mirrorman_02.jpg) 8-)
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: mjj29081958 on April 26, 2010, 11:20:19 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Ah, you saw it... then nothing to say  ;)
I´m just talking from a pic.

we also did not have the full dress rehearsal... just so many not done yets

shoes not broken in

mangle feet sandals not tested

clothes not worn - to see if they function - and that he can dance with tower blocks on his shoulders?

I wonder why Lou Ferrigno said Michael rehearsed on the outfits he was gonna use to his shows...
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: mykidsmum on April 27, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
I answered my own question...he wore

Sebago Caymen (not Caymen II) penny loafers...as in this picture at around 120. dollars and also he has been known to wear Bas Weejuns and Florsheim Como Ornament Shoes for history tour.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: MissG on April 27, 2010, 10:43:59 AM
:lol:  :lol:

I only like the black plain ones  :?
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: XspeechlessX on April 27, 2010, 10:49:54 AM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
is it me or do these:(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6408) resemble the shoes in this pic:(http://illusion.scene360.com/wp-content/themes/sahara-10/submissions/mirrorman_02.jpg) 8-)


Oooohh....

the mirror man one! the shoes remind me of thatpic on the finny pics thread where hes walking through a hall and theres notes around it like "OMG shoes size!"
Ill try and find it....
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: XspeechlessX on April 27, 2010, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: "XspeechlessX"
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
is it me or do these:(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6408) resemble the shoes in this pic:(http://illusion.scene360.com/wp-content/themes/sahara-10/submissions/mirrorman_02.jpg) 8-)


Oooohh....

the mirror man one! the shoes remind me of thatpic on the finny pics thread where hes walking through a hall and theres notes around it like "OMG shoes size!"
Ill try and find it....

hmm... maybe not quite   :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: MJonmind on April 27, 2010, 11:09:52 AM
I agree, they're so classic MJ. With him practising for hours each day, like the guards said, I wonder how many shoes he had like those, and what he did when they were worn out. I remember a post long time ago, where it said at Neverland or Encino people used to go through his trash to find treasures to collect or sell I guess.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Elsa on April 27, 2010, 11:59:15 AM
Quote from: "Venus"
I'd rather fake my death than wear this vinyl shoes! :lol:

Not even Michael Jackson can make squished socks -or worse squished skin- look good in plastic boots.

Maybe he did say 'I'd be better off dead' at the last rehearsal.  Perhaps Zaldy had turned up with those plastic horrors for a fitting.  

Or maybe see-through shoes are meant to be part of the show.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: the arabian nights on April 27, 2010, 03:05:47 PM
they may have been made for the show but they are not comfortable, even if you were seated, but dancing on the stage - lethal weapon
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Venus on April 27, 2010, 05:43:25 PM
Quote from: "Elsa"
Quote from: "Venus"
I'd rather fake my death than wear this vinyl shoes! :lol:

Maybe he did say 'I'd be better off dead' at the last rehearsal.  Perhaps Zaldy had turned up with those plastic horrors for a fitting.  

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Venus on April 27, 2010, 05:50:59 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
they may have been made for the show but they are not comfortable, even if you were seated, but dancing on the stage - lethal weapon

I don't think it was good idea from the beginning. Dancers have terrible feet because they practice too much. It's not the best thing to show.

And btw, who would see his feet from such a distance?
I still don't get the idea of that shoes.
If he was supposed to wear socks underneath he's legs still would be soooo sweaty, if no socks - he would slide inside the shoe and grate the skin.
That Zaldy is crazy asshole!
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: somekindofsign on April 27, 2010, 07:03:56 PM
Quote from: "Venus"
And btw, who would see his feet from such a distance?

What distance? Near of far? Far people are not going to see his face either, but there are video walls.
Michael feet have always be visible...
And he could also wear sparkling socks or whatever... not sport socks  :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: Elsa on April 28, 2010, 11:04:38 AM
Okay, I don't know how it is in other countries but in Australia wearing socks of any kind with plastic
see-through
shoes is the definition of insanity.  

Quote from: "the arabian nights"
they may have been made for the show but they are not comfortable, even if you were seated, but dancing on the stage - lethal weapon

Agree.  The shoes are on display for a reason.  

 
Quote from: "loma"
Quote from: "Venus"
I'd rather fake my death than wear this vinil shoes! :lol:
*high five*
Me too. Ugh

Yes, 'hive five' boys - love ya work.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: RK on April 28, 2010, 11:14:54 AM
Mike always wore such great shoes.  Many I would say hand made for Him personally. I'm thinking of the 95 MTV awards [ same as TMZ coffin moonwalk] . Absolute class. I gotta admit I got a bit of a thingy for shoes and these transparent plastic numbers are not doin it for me. To dance in these I would imagine to be hell. Sorry Zaldy.
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: the arabian nights on April 28, 2010, 12:56:52 PM
hopefully mike would have packed his old favorites
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: airieslady on April 28, 2010, 02:18:14 PM
None of that stuff that Zaldy made including the shoes was danceable attire!  Just look at that stuff...how could you move around, especially Michael dance moves... ridiculous if you ask me... well, maybe you aren't!   :lol:
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: the arabian nights on April 28, 2010, 02:36:30 PM
i am so with you on that

 they looked good on dummies at the 02
Title: Re: shoes
Post by: PrettyYoungTeletubby on April 28, 2010, 03:40:54 PM
Quote from: "Elsa"
Quote from: "Venus"
I'd rather fake my death than wear this vinyl shoes! :lol:

Not even Michael Jackson can make squished socks -or worse squished skin- look good in plastic boots.

Maybe he did say 'I'd be better off dead' at the last rehearsal.  Perhaps Zaldy had turned up with those plastic horrors for a fitting.  

Or maybe see-through shoes are meant to be part of the show.
Quote from: "Elsa"
Okay, I don't know how it is in other countries but in Australia wearing socks of any kind with plastic
see-through
shoes is the definition of insanity.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Thx Elsa u got me laughing so much with your posts.. really needed that
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