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Title: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: lovemj4everandever on April 07, 2010, 06:16:30 PM
Watch this video closely.  In addition to the all inconsistencies that we know about regarding this interview, it clearly appears that Brian Oxman is standing in front of a green-screen" of pre-filmed footage of UCLA Medical Center.   Also, notice how he is  about to bust a gut laughing at 1:10 when he says "I have warned that Michael Jackson would wake up dead...."   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:   Watch closely - Michael is a freakin' genius!   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4gB7TQXXI0&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4gB7TQXXI0&NR=1)
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: *Mo* on April 08, 2010, 01:52:10 AM
I agree on that it looks like this video was green screened.  I however do not agree on how he is about to bust a gut laughing at 1:10 when he says "I have warned that Michael Jackson would wake up dead....".
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: MJJ1982 on April 08, 2010, 06:19:51 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
I agree on that it looks like this video was green screened.  I however do not agree on how he is about to bust a gut laughing at 1:10 when he says "I have warned that Michael Jackson would wake up dead....".

Agree, green screen yes, but laughing no.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: XspeechlessX on April 08, 2010, 07:36:40 AM
But the girl walking behing at 1:49 looks at the cameraman?

Dont get how its green-screened  :?

How can you tell?
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: friendlikeme81 on April 08, 2010, 07:59:45 AM
Good mo...äh, good evening, Sir --> prerecorded  ???

"Hello Harry, how are you? It is a very sad day for me here, I am heartbroken." -->   :)  :D  :D  :D  

[attachment=1:6t73bsh7]heartbroken.JPG[/attachment:6t73bsh7]

"I have warned of that, one day Michael Jackson would wake up dead."

[attachment=0:6t73bsh7]wake up dead.JPG[/attachment:6t73bsh7]

until 1:20 Brian Oxmann is constantly trying to suppress a laughter

+ definetely green screen, you see it when the ambulance drives past
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: XspeechlessX on April 08, 2010, 08:29:42 AM
listen what he says... makes NO sense!

"I got a call just a little before noon saying michael had been taken from the hospital by randys assistant who gave me that call"

...Randys assistant took Michael from the hospital a little before noon..? :?

You what?

This making logical sense to anyone here?
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: the arabian nights on April 08, 2010, 08:45:35 AM
Randy was with mike 2 pp have said this i think and now his assistant

something fishy
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: nynyro on April 08, 2010, 08:49:16 AM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Randy was with mike 2 pp have said this i think and now his assistant

something fishy

Did Randy ever say where he was on June 25th?
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: the arabian nights on April 08, 2010, 08:52:38 AM
no but our pp have said so

and why would randy's assistant be there

another thing is that brian at the beginning of the talk that he is trying not to smile c/f with the end when he is more serious

then he slips but good recovery - his current situation
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Nakiska on April 08, 2010, 10:27:01 AM
I'm sorry but can someone explain to me why do you think it is a green screen at the background? I cant see anything that points to that, but maybe its because I dont know where to look. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Sarahli on April 08, 2010, 10:39:55 AM
He is definitely trying not to laugh...
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mjjveritas on April 08, 2010, 10:43:22 AM
Brian Oxman's eyes, especially at the start of the video, look to be smiling. There is no disbelief/shock in his eyes. Cover his smile for a second, you can tell from just his eyes that he is smiling. BO seems to keep his eyes closed for a few seconds possibly to compose his face to something a bit more neutral/sad. As for the Green Screen. I don't know what to look for, but I hope it is Green Screened.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: friendlikeme81 on April 08, 2010, 10:53:40 AM
The Green Screen effect occured when I saw the car driving past behind Brian. I noticed that it appeared to be only twodimensional. But this could also be an effect of my screen (no 3D home-cinema yet :) )
The second thing is the heavy lightning on his hair. This day wasn't that sunny, the people in front of the hospital would probably have darker shadows.

But to be true, I'm not that certain any more if it's really green screened. :?
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on April 08, 2010, 11:03:26 AM
The green screen,maybe...but BO was sure in a good mood that day... 8-)
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: reading_on on April 08, 2010, 11:45:29 AM
Hubby said that it doesn't look green screened to him. There may have been additional lighting (which he says would be appropriate) to make him stand out.  He is definitely the expert.
I couldn't tell unless it was blatantly obvious my eyes don't do 3-D nothing  :lol: , have no idea why.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: MJLover1990 on April 08, 2010, 12:02:52 PM
I agree, He looks like he's green-screened in the video.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: CantGetEnoughMJ on April 08, 2010, 12:05:45 PM
IMO-I can't be sure about the green screen, but he sure looked like he was suppressing a laugh, or a fit of sobbing.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mirandacnc on April 08, 2010, 12:07:32 PM
also theres no background noise..at all!! its a hospital and tons of ppl outside i hear NOTHING!!

FAKEEEE!!!! :D
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: friendlikeme81 on April 08, 2010, 12:10:33 PM
Quote from: "reading_on"
Hubby said that it doesn't look green screened to him. There may have been additional lighting (which he says would be appropriate) to make him stand out.  He is definitely the expert.
I couldn't tell unless it was blatantly obvious my eyes don't do 3-D nothing  :lol: , have no idea why.

Thank you for asking your husband, if he's the expert, we should rather trust him.  :)
For your 3D debility, try this one.., has the same effect as carrots ;)
(http://3dst.de/typo3temp/pics/974e4144fc.jpg)

Nevertheless, being filmed real and live changes nothing in the unappropriate behaviour of BO. It's still odd how he could react this kind of ironic.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: bec on April 08, 2010, 12:20:43 PM
Have you noticed that if you have to tell an elaborate lie... convincing yourself that it's a joke/prank makes it easier?

Because it weighs a whole lot less on your conscience.

He's a lawyer. They have to lie for a living. Must be useful to have a method for doing this convincingly and regularly.

Think about it. If you have to lie, which is easier to pull off, thinking "i'm lying" or thinking "i'm punking them"?
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mjjveritas on April 08, 2010, 12:26:47 PM
Did anyone think there were quite a few people in the background who were wearing Blue shirts? Is there any reason for this? This link explains the process. http://www.deskshare.com/Resources/articles/vem_greenscreentechnique.aspx
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: CantGetEnoughMJ on April 08, 2010, 12:28:27 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Have you noticed that if you have to tell an elaborate lie... convincing yourself that it's a joke/prank makes it easier?

Because it weighs a whole lot less on your conscience.

He's a lawyer. They have to lie for a living. Must be useful to have a method for doing this convincingly and regularly.

Think about it. If you have to lie, which is easier to pull off, thinking "i'm lying" or thinking "i'm punking them"?

Interesting.

I want to believe that BO is in on the hoax, but the logical side of me wonders, why would a prominent lawyer whose livelyhood depends on his credibility lend himself to participating in a hoax?  I know lawyers lie for a living, but still (no offense to honest lawyers in here).
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: bec on April 08, 2010, 12:35:01 PM
A lawyer would also know exactly how to work within the law and make the whole thing legal. Exploiting loopholes and all.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: michaelsupporter on April 08, 2010, 12:37:53 PM
At 25 seconds Brian Oxman says that "Michael was taken FROM the hospital by Randy's assistant....." That is odd.....so was MJ taken from the hospital at that time or to????  

Yep, to me.....he is well too composed and his facial expressions really don't match up to pain or grief. Also, he is blinking far too much (a sign of lying).  Did anyone else notice that his little speech appeared composed, rehearsed??!?!??!?!?!
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: kingofmystery on April 08, 2010, 12:42:26 PM
Quote from: "CantGetEnoughMJ"
Quote from: "bec"
Have you noticed that if you have to tell an elaborate lie... convincing yourself that it's a joke/prank makes it easier?

Because it weighs a whole lot less on your conscience.

He's a lawyer. They have to lie for a living. Must be useful to have a method for doing this convincingly and regularly.

Think about it. If you have to lie, which is easier to pull off, thinking "i'm lying" or thinking "i'm punking them"?

Interesting.

I want to believe that BO is in on the hoax, but the logical side of me wonders, why would a prominent lawyer whose livelyhood depends on his credibility lend himself to participating in a hoax?  I know lawyers lie for a living, but still (no offense to honest lawyers in here).

My thoughts exactly.  He isn't going to put his reputation and credibility on the line.  Not in LA, for sure. I do NOT think this is Green Screen.  I think people are reaching and make something out of nothing here.  There are more important things to be focusing on here, folks.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mirandacnc on April 08, 2010, 12:44:12 PM
i wish he wouldve stopped saying "wake up dead" ... at first i thought dumb thing to say then he said it again!! wtf?? that makes no sense
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: kingofmystery on April 08, 2010, 12:45:11 PM
Quote from: "mirandacnc"
i wish he wouldve stopped saying "wake up dead" ... at first i thought dumb thing to say then he said it again!! wtf?? that makes no sense

This is a common expression in the US.  Not a big deal...
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: friendlikeme81 on April 08, 2010, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
Did anyone think there were quite a few people in the background who were wearing Blue shirts? Is there any reason for this? This link explains the process. http://www.deskshare.com/Resources/articles/vem_greenscreentechnique.aspx

:o  :o Wow!
quoted from your link: "if you're using a blue screen, and a man is wearing a blue tie, in the final movie it will seem that he has a hole right through his chest!"  

the only bright colours that are used are very much blue and a darker red.

No green at all (no little green man, heehee)!!

So somebody who knows about that optical rule will be forced to notice that green might have been avoided for a sprecial reason and this is demonstrated by doing the opposite of what was to be expected: placing as much as blue inside. Meaning: as you can see, this is NO blue screen (but a green screen)!

Even this boy that crosses the street at 2:16 is wearing blue.
[attachment=0:8f8rejic]blue.JPG[/attachment:8f8rejic]
and: from 2:15 you see a distinct contortion when the boy is walking through the scene. You don't see that at BO's body or the news-banner.

I'm very much confused...
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: IBelieveInMiracles on April 08, 2010, 12:54:44 PM
I don't know where to look for a green screen,  :roll:  :lol:  but he was trying very hard to hold in those laughs. I wouldn't think there would be much to laugh about if you'd lost someone you were close too. Also, that was full of contradictions.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: CantGetEnoughMJ on April 08, 2010, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: "bec"
A lawyer would also know exactly how to work within the law and make the whole thing legal. Exploiting loopholes and all.

That's true.  But what I'm getting at is, let's say that the day will come when the hoax is revealed, and all the players in the hoax will be known.  Don't you think that BO knows that if people find out that he lied to the world by saying that Michael died, nobody will ever take him seriously anymore?  I think that would end his professional career.  Think about it, what jury or judge would ever believe anything that BO says if they know he participated in a hoax/lie.  He could say that he didn't know about the hoax, but if he's representing the family in any way, nobody is going to believe that he didn't know that Michael didn't really die.  My whole point is that as an intelligent lawyer, I don't think Brian Oxman would willingly lend himself to this hoax.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: BlessHisHeart on April 08, 2010, 01:10:27 PM
I honestly don't see a green screen....but the things he says don't make no sense!!! It just seems like he's acting and TRYING to sound sympathetic but it just seems fake to me....
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: friendlikeme81 on April 08, 2010, 01:16:48 PM
This is too much for me!

Also Brian is wearing the same tie as in the 2005 trial!!! :shock:  

[attachment=0:3f7wkuhx]Michael+Jackson+Trial+Continues+2Hg099-iIjml.jpg[/attachment:3f7wkuhx]
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: MJonmind on April 08, 2010, 01:19:56 PM
At 2:28 I hear some echoey sounds like it's in a large auditorium/studio. When the firetruck goes by it hardly makes any sounds, and in reality it should drown BO out for a few seconds. Iagree all the blue clothing is suspicious, nobody that I see is occasionally looking at the camera like would happen if a TV crew were set up there. His hair is blowing slightly with maybe a fan blowing on him. The "wake up dead" is so funny because literally the 24th was MJ's last sleep and he woke up then officially dead, BO is speaking the truth. I bet as soon as he could BO just bust out laughing! Wow the same tie as 2005 is absolutely hirarious!!! The clues are EVERYWHERE!
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: friendlikeme81 on April 08, 2010, 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: "friendlikeme81"
This is too much for me!

Also Brian is wearing the same tie as in the 2005 trial!!! :shock:  

[attachment=0:384giql9]Michael+Jackson+Trial+Continues+2Hg099-iIjml.jpg[/attachment:384giql9]

with some more distance now: this scene happened almost 10 month earlier than the last Murray court hearing where we noticed the repeating clothing of Katherine, Joe and CM.

So this must be a coincidence, because the BO interview is not related to the CM court hearing. My nerves are a bit overstressed today, sorry. :oops:
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: MashMike on April 08, 2010, 02:09:13 PM
I agree that it's odd that all of them are wearing the same  outfits that they wore in 2005,but i cant see that he is out to laugh,it seems to me that BO is out to cry, he is really sad,otherwise i dont know, besides just , a poster wrote here that there aint noise around UCLA, i dont agree, just listen to it carefully, the fans are crying "Michael" all the time,u can hear it very clearly,it's obvious that there were a lot of people there, i dont think that it's a clue but i wish it were.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: MDM77 on April 08, 2010, 03:29:35 PM
I agree it looks green screened to me too and you can notice it when the firetruck goes by. Very odd.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on April 08, 2010, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: "friendlikeme81"
This is too much for me!

Also Brian is wearing the same tie as in the 2005 trial!!! :shock:  

[attachment=0:1n35yy6c]Michael+Jackson+Trial+Continues+2Hg099-iIjml.jpg[/attachment:1n35yy6c]

Really :shock:
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: topsecretgirl on April 08, 2010, 03:48:08 PM
I think what he really meant to say was: They took him from the hospital to the airport waaay before Jermaine arrived there!!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on April 08, 2010, 04:38:38 PM
Wow....we are peeling all the layers off guys!!!
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: michaelsupporter on April 08, 2010, 04:44:27 PM
Green screen or no green screen the same clothing attire on so many individuals is far too coincidental to not mean something!!!!
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Jacksonology on April 08, 2010, 04:50:19 PM
its obvious this is green/blue screen. probably filmed in the DOME project.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mirandacnc on April 08, 2010, 05:14:50 PM
the no noise thing is why i think its fake..blue is odd too though..my head hurts this so weird what is the purpose of green screen here??
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Victor on April 08, 2010, 05:21:42 PM
what is she looking at if this WAS green / blue screened ? :o
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9374/lookatthegirl.jpg)
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9374/lookatthegirl.jpg
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Jacksonology on April 08, 2010, 05:25:49 PM
Quote from: "Victor"
what is she looking at if this WAS green / blue screened ? :o
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9374/lookatthegirl.jpg)
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9374/lookatthegirl.jpg
she could of been looking at a car go by. it doesn't look like she is looking at Brian's Direction. it's a inserted background. regular footage of people walking by and interacting. and they just put it on the background of Brian..
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Victor on April 08, 2010, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "Victor"
what is she looking at if this WAS green / blue screened ? :o
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9374/lookatthegirl.jpg)
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9374/lookatthegirl.jpg
she could of been looking at a car go by. it doesn't look like she is looking at Brian Oxman. it's a inserted background. regular footage of people walking by and interacting. and they just put it on the background of Brian..
ye sorry my bad -_-'
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Loes on April 08, 2010, 05:35:07 PM
I rememberd this video outside UCLA.

This proves Brian Oxman was there that day (so no green screen):

[youtube:2xa8lv6h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBw9DX2ucBs&feature=related[/youtube:2xa8lv6h]

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Grazzia on April 08, 2010, 05:37:33 PM
the same ...like CM "massage" to his friends and patients LOL

and i think is green screen...maybe the noises have been recorded.but the ambulance is weird
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Jacksonology on April 08, 2010, 05:38:25 PM
Quote from: "Grazzia"
the same ...like CM "massage" to his friends and patients LOL

and i think is green screen...maybe the noises have been recorded.but the ambulance is weird
yes, it's strange how it goes REALLY REALLY slow when it drives. as if its in Slow-Mo.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: lovemj4everandever on April 08, 2010, 05:54:11 PM
Quote from: "Loes"
I rememberd this video outside UCLA.

This proves Brian Oxman was there that day (so no green screen):

[youtube:3kirgiq2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBw9DX2ucBs&feature=related[/youtube:3kirgiq2]

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)

Oh we know he was there earlier in the day and have all seen that video but there is a huge difference in the videos.  One is real and one is green-screened.  My very honest opinion.  One is reality.  One is fake.   The tale of two tales....
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Loes on April 08, 2010, 05:59:07 PM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Quote from: "Loes"
I rememberd this video outside UCLA.

This proves Brian Oxman was there that day (so no green screen):

[youtube:sm8fnuza]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBw9DX2ucBs&feature=related[/youtube:sm8fnuza]

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)

Oh we know he was there earlier in the day and have all seen that video but there is a huge difference in the videos.  One is real and one is green-screened.  My very honest opinion.  One is reality.  One is fake.   The tale of two tales....

I see no logic in that.
He was there, so why green screen him before?

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Jacksonology on April 08, 2010, 05:59:44 PM
wow, thanks for showing that video. it shows that he was green screened more.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Jacksonology on April 08, 2010, 06:01:17 PM
Quote from: "Loes"
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Quote from: "Loes"
I rememberd this video outside UCLA.

This proves Brian Oxman was there that day (so no green screen):

[youtube:3e87f8q1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBw9DX2ucBs&feature=related[/youtube:3e87f8q1]

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)

Oh we know he was there earlier in the day and have all seen that video but there is a huge difference in the videos.  One is real and one is green-screened.  My very honest opinion.  One is reality.  One is fake.   The tale of two tales....

I see no logic in that.
He was there, so why green screen him before?

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
the crowds are different. in the video posted in this quote, there is people behind and camera's taking pictures. the the earlier video. the background is less chaotic. people are walking around, a car drives by. and the definition is different. it looks HD.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Loes on April 08, 2010, 06:05:54 PM
Well, the interview was not taken in that crowd offcourse, but at a more quiet corner.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: simplyme on April 08, 2010, 06:06:31 PM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Watch this video closely.  In addition to the all inconsistencies that we know about regarding this interview, it clearly appears that Brian Oxman is standing in front of a green-screen" of pre-filmed footage of UCLA Medical Center.   Also, notice how he is  about to bust a gut laughing at 1:10 when he says "I have warned that Michael Jackson would wake up dead...."   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:   Watch closely - Michael is a freakin' genius!   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4gB7TQXXI0&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4gB7TQXXI0&NR=1)

He looks like he's trying not to cry.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: simplyme on April 08, 2010, 06:08:27 PM
Quote from: "mirandacnc"
i wish he wouldve stopped saying "wake up dead" ... at first i thought dumb thing to say then he said it again!! wtf?? that makes no sense

A lot of people use that expression, myself included.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mjboogie on April 08, 2010, 07:48:32 PM
u know how something happens and it seems like you might be delerious or something??? Like on June 25th I was driving home from work right? And my radio station announced that MJ had died. I actually pulled over my car and was sitting there laughing and crying at the same time lol! in disbelief (and still am 8-)  yes ...laughing and crying at the same time. Seems like BO was kinda like this like he didn't know weather to laugh or cry?
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 08, 2010, 08:02:23 PM
Quote from: "michaelsupporter"
At 25 seconds Brian Oxman says that "Michael was taken FROM the hospital by Randy's assistant....." That is odd.....so was MJ taken from the hospital at that time or to????  

Yep, to me.....he is well too composed and his facial expressions really don't match up to pain or grief. Also, he is blinking far too much (a sign of lying).  Did anyone else notice that his little speech appeared composed, rehearsed??!?!??!?!?!

Okay, so maybe Michael was at the hospital earlier in the day and whatever happened it was decided that he couldn't perform at the O2 - so instead of just canceling the shows and creating a huge mutiny with fans they concocted this story? But, they had to wait until he had been released from the hospital before they could pull off their fake story? IDK - I thought from day one that Brian spoke with utter disrespect towards Michael. He showed no sorrow for having just lost someone that he's known for years. Not to mention the sorrow he should feel for the family. No emotion what-so-ever. JMO.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mjthelegendlives on April 08, 2010, 09:08:31 PM
Quote from: "kingofmystery"
Quote from: "mirandacnc"
i wish he wouldve stopped saying "wake up dead" ... at first i thought dumb thing to say then he said it again!! wtf?? that makes no sense

This is a common expression in the US.  Not a big deal...

Can you explain when it is used?  I've heard the term, but only referring to wake up dead, like in wake up "tired", not literally dead...
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mirandacnc on April 08, 2010, 09:14:19 PM
exactly u cant wake up dead..not possible
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: MYLOVELYONE on April 08, 2010, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: "friendlikeme81"
Good mo...äh, good evening, Sir --> prerecorded  ???

"Hello Harry, how are you? It is a very sad day for me here, I am heartbroken." -->   :)  :D  :D  :D  

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"I have warned of that, one day Michael Jackson would wake up dead."

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until 1:20 Brian Oxmann is constantly trying to suppress a laughter

+ definetely green screen, you see it when the ambulance drives past

hahahaha I'm agrre with you lol yes he seems like he want to laugh all the time hhahaha :lol:  his face sorry hahaha
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: liril on April 08, 2010, 10:17:37 PM
Quote from: "Nakiska"
I'm sorry but can someone explain to me why do you think it is a green screen at the background? I cant see anything that points to that, but maybe its because I dont know where to look. Thanks. :)

so do I believe. I have seen so many photograph they look artificial/ green screened but they are not
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Christiana on April 09, 2010, 12:13:58 AM
We could endlessly debate whether it's green screened or not...because it's all based on subjective opinion and perspective. I personally do NOT think it looks at all green screened. If you turn your volume up, you can hear plenty of background noise. Also remember that there is a microphone on B.O. (I love that his initials are short for:  Body Odor, LOL), and that always makes the person speaking the most prominent sound. Think about how many reporters you see talking on camera, and how often their voice is the only voice you hear. It happens all the time. If it didn't work like that, there'd be no point of sending reporters out in the field for live interviews, because they'd never hear what they wanted to hear over every other sound going on around them.

Also, the blue shirts and apparel do not seem suspicious to me. They look like uniforms. It is a hospital, after all, so, um, people will be wearing similar/matching things.

As to why the videos seem different that have been posted...it's because they were taken at different times of day and in different areas of UCLA. They are not both done in the same place. So yes, they will look different.

I saw at least 2 ladies walking behind B.O. that looked toward him--and if they weren't looking at him, they were likely looking at the camera people/person. Again, this is a point we could debate endlessly.

And yes, people in America have very stupid sayings, and "waking up dead" is one of them. Obviously you can't wake up if you are dead. It's just an expression, a stupid one, yeah, but just an expression.

I do think B.O. is odd, and maybe even a liar. I don't think he'd be in on the hoax though--because he seems to flakey for Michael to be able to trust, and I think Michael would be smarter than that where the hoax is concerned. And in my opinion, he's not trying to suppress laughter, he's just an idiot. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: bec on April 09, 2010, 02:48:59 AM
Quote from: "Christiana"
And yes, people in America have very stupid sayings, and "waking up dead" is one of them. Obviously you can't wake up if you are dead. It's just an expression, a stupid one, yeah, but just an expression.

Well that's slightly rude. Stupid sayings?

Born n raised in the USA and I've never heard anyone use this expression before. I didn't realize we had foreign experts here on "sayings" in the US.

And they say Americans are pompous and egotistical.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mjfansince4 on April 09, 2010, 02:59:45 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "Christiana"
And yes, people in America have very stupid sayings, and "waking up dead" is one of them. Obviously you can't wake up if you are dead. It's just an expression, a stupid one, yeah, but just an expression.

Well that's slightly rude. Stupid sayings?

Born n raised in the USA and I've never heard anyone use this expression before. I didn't realize we had foreign experts here on "sayings" in the US.

And they say Americans are pompous and egotistical.

californian here. i agree with you- never heard of this saying. i can't even really think of a context where this would be acceptable to be used in an everyday setting where most common sayings are.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: lynn on April 09, 2010, 03:23:20 AM
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "Christiana"
And yes, people in America have very stupid sayings, and "waking up dead" is one of them. Obviously you can't wake up if you are dead. It's just an expression, a stupid one, yeah, but just an expression.

Well that's slightly rude. Stupid sayings?

Born n raised in the USA and I've never heard anyone use this expression before. I didn't realize we had foreign experts here on "sayings" in the US.

And they say Americans are pompous and egotistical.

californian here. i agree with you- never heard of this saying. i can't even really think of a context where this would be acceptable to be used in an everyday setting where most common sayings are.

I have never heard of that saying also... I have lived in 3 different states
Maybe she heard it in a move or something :?
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mjthelegendlives on April 09, 2010, 10:19:16 PM
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "Christiana"
And yes, people in America have very stupid sayings, and "waking up dead" is one of them. Obviously you can't wake up if you are dead. It's just an expression, a stupid one, yeah, but just an expression.

Well that's slightly rude. Stupid sayings?

Born n raised in the USA and I've never heard anyone use this expression before. I didn't realize we had foreign experts here on "sayings" in the US.

And they say Americans are pompous and egotistical.

californian here. i agree with you- never heard of this saying. i can't even really think of a context where this would be acceptable to be used in an everyday setting where most common sayings are.

Especially coming from a lawyer and on live tv...
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mirandacnc on April 09, 2010, 11:30:37 PM
maybe that was a clue" waking up dead" since you cant really do that....maybe thats why he laughed or tried not to laugh ;)
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mjboogie on April 10, 2010, 12:27:02 AM
What I really need to do is find out WHO IN THE HELL IS RANDY"S ASSISTANT? ? Does anyone here know who he or she may be? This is a new research topic in my opinion. RANDYS ASSISTANT HAD TAKEN MJ FROM THE HOSPITAL SHORTLY BEFORE NOON..yeah Brian, and the 911 call was made after 12 right :roll:

Finding out what we can find out on Randy's Assistant might shed some light on things. I am getting desperate and it is getting close to June. :oops:
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Datroot on April 10, 2010, 05:30:32 AM
Oxman always looks like he's trying not to laugh - he just has one of those faces.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: MJs Tinkerbell on April 10, 2010, 05:35:44 AM
"Waking up the dead" when you're being to loud, I have heard but I have never ever in all my years heard this expression before.  "He'll wake up dead" is just plain ridiculous to me.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Loes on April 10, 2010, 10:21:52 AM
Wake up dead is also a thriller ...  :D

http://www.amazon.com/Wake-Up-Dead-Roge ... 0805088768 (http://www.amazon.com/Wake-Up-Dead-Roger-Smith/dp/0805088768)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: friendlikeme81 on April 10, 2010, 02:02:44 PM
When looking it up in Google I have found this explanation:

"It's a bit of irony dude... "When you wake up dead, dont come crying to me because you never put your seatbelt on" or something like that. it's just saying that one day it's going to be too late to do it, so you may as well do it now, because it's for your own good, even if it seems a little extreme/paranoid to do it now."

So mmh, maybe family members have really been telling him this phrase as a warning?
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Sarahli on April 10, 2010, 04:07:14 PM
When we die we don't just disappear under ground, our soul goes to the other side and we finally wake up dead because we're still living (the soul) but we're dead here on this earth. So wake up dead has a certain sense to me. To wake up realizing that we're dead.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mjaliveomg on April 10, 2010, 04:22:51 PM
And what you tell me of his hair that did not stop shaking?
From what I know every blow of wind has a pause, even in places where the wind is stronger.
Fans(wind) of a film set?
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Jacksonology on April 10, 2010, 04:27:26 PM
Quote from: "mjaliveomg"
And what you tell me of his hair that did not stop shaking?
From what I know every gust of wind has a pause, even in places where the wind is stronger.
Fans(wind) of a film set?
wow, good find! the wind seems too controlled. and in LA it can get windy....
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Christiana on April 11, 2010, 01:29:26 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "Christiana"
And yes, people in America have very stupid sayings, and "waking up dead" is one of them. Obviously you can't wake up if you are dead. It's just an expression, a stupid one, yeah, but just an expression.

Well that's slightly rude. Stupid sayings?


Born n raised in the USA and I've never heard anyone use this expression before. I didn't realize we had foreign experts here on "sayings" in the US.

And they say Americans are pompous and egotistical.

I was NOT trying to be rude. I was simply making a comment, and there was no rudeness intended or implied. And I AM AMERICAN, born and raised.  :D  And I have lived in 6 different states, and at 43 years old, I have heard this saying many times. And it was as an American, who has heard plenty of bizarre, strange, and even stupid sayings in America, that I made a comment about things Americans say.  

It's really wrong to assume or presume someone's intent based solely on text you read on a computer screen. I was in no way attempting to be rude--that was not my intent at all. Please don't accuse me of something that is in no way true. Thanks so much.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Christiana on April 11, 2010, 03:26:03 PM
And just as a follow up...there are songs, movies, and books called Wake Up Dead...and Waking Up Dead. There's even a band named Wake Up Dead.

Do a Google search for "Wake up dead" and "wake up dead expression" and you will get lots of results. It's dumb, and it makes no sense. But it's something that some people say...sometimes.  :lol:  

It's definitely something B.O. would say. He says lots of bizarre things.  :shock:
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: somekindofsign on April 11, 2010, 05:25:27 PM
I have just come out of work to film a green screen today...
I don´t see any sign of it in this video.

I guess people here talking about America, you´re talking about USA, which is only a part of America... I never understand why you do that.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on April 12, 2010, 01:36:38 PM
I dont think its green screened. what would be the point? His hair is blowing slightly in the vid....I dont see any "fuzziness" around his body like you would see if he was green screened. Weather people on TV are green screened and you can see a "fuzziness" around their body in front of the screen.....and as far as trying not to laugh....most definatley he is holding it in...
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 12, 2010, 02:28:14 PM
Hahahaaaa  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

It does look green screened...BUT I am laughing at Brian Oxman's TERRIBLE ACTING SKILLS! Holy cow, it is SO obvious that he is trying not to laugh. This is bizzare... I cannot believe there are still people who are oblivious to these blatant clues and think we are all "nutters" as Mo would say  :)

I think all non-believers are nutters :!:
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: MJsFan4Ever on April 12, 2010, 04:36:23 PM
"I am  :)  heartbroken" REALLY!!??? :mrgreen: so funny how he's smiling the whole time
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: ABeautifulMind on April 12, 2010, 04:49:48 PM
Quote from: "friendlikeme81"
Quote from: "reading_on"
Hubby said that it doesn't look green screened to him. There may have been additional lighting (which he says would be appropriate) to make him stand out.  He is definitely the expert.
I couldn't tell unless it was blatantly obvious my eyes don't do 3-D nothing  :lol: , have no idea why.

Thank you for asking your husband, if he's the expert, we should rather trust him.  :)
For your 3D debility, try this one.., has the same effect as carrots ;)
(http://3dst.de/typo3temp/pics/974e4144fc.jpg)

Nevertheless, being filmed real and live changes nothing in the unappropriate behaviour of BO. It's still odd how he could react this kind of ironic.

Then explain why he's so close to the truck when he drives by? and why there is no background noise. Your hubby's an expert? I've taken multimedia production courses, put videos together using green screen. Because we had an actual studio in our school. This is DEFINITELY green screened.
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Sweetness on April 12, 2010, 08:10:29 PM
This clip is most definitely green screened and I'll tell you why.....

1) if you look at the video at the 0:34 point you'll notice the person in the blue shirt and black pants walks behind behind Oxman's head and just simply disappears into thin air, like he walks behind him into some black hole or something never to be seen again.lol

2) or shell I say glitch number two.. ;)  if this was indeed live footage then how come the dude at the 0:46 mark walks into view and he appears to pull something out of his pocket and then he looks over to right and then if you pay really close attention at about the 0:56 point just as he turns around there's a slight  glitch when he does...now I watched that part of the clip over and over again and I know what I see and what I don't see is Brian Oxman glitching at all when this happened which proves that this was made in a studio plus I don't know if anybody caught Harry Smith's little slip up but during the introduction he says to BO "Good morn--afternoon as in good "MORNING"...so folks this could mean that that so called "live" interview was conducted in the morning..or we all know because of baby sis's nip slip they are able to delay what's supposed to be happening in real time so that whole little exchange could have been made for tv, ya dig ;).

Just my observations....what's yours?
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: MJs Tinkerbell on April 12, 2010, 08:19:08 PM
Quote from: "Sweetness"
This clip is most definitely green screened and I'll tell you why.....

1) if you look at the video at the 0:34 point you'll notice the person in the blue shirt and black pants walks behind behind Oxman's head and just simply disappears into thin air, like he walks behind him into some black hole or something never to be seen again.lol

2) or shell I say glitch number two.. ;)  if this was indeed live footage then how come the dude at the 0:46 mark walks into view and he appears to pull something out of his pocket and then he looks over to right and then if you pay really close attention at about the 0:56 point just as he turns around there's a slight  glitch when he does...now I watched that part of the clip over and over again and I know what I see and what I don't see is Brian Oxman glitching at all when this happened which proves that this was made in a studio plus I don't know if anybody caught Harry Smith's little slip up but during the introduction he says to BO "Good morn--afternoon as in good "MORNING"...so folks this could mean that that so called "live" interview was conducted in the morning..or we all know because of baby sis's nip slip they are able to delay what's supposed to be happening in real time so that whole little exchange could have been made for tv, ya dig ;).

Just my observations....what's yours?

The person in the blue shirt and black pants walks back at about 1:14 and 1:41.  He's not in a black hole.  Oxmans Brain is in a black hole.. :lol:
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: mjjveritas on April 12, 2010, 08:45:20 PM
Sweetness, Thanks for your observations and bringing up Janet's "wardrobe malfunction" in such a poetic manner.  :lol:
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: Sweetness on April 12, 2010, 08:49:15 PM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
Sweetness, Thanks for your observations and bringing up Janet's "wardrobe malfunction" in such a poetic manner.  :lol:
My pleasure. :D
Title: Re: Brian Oxman green-screened at UCLA 06/25/09
Post by: SEHF on April 12, 2010, 11:13:35 PM
 used the feed for the green screen backdrop.
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